Prince dies at 57

[kstew43]

Such a shame....due to flu???

Doves are crying......he was a great singer....and personality

[jgm3279]

So sad. R.I.P. Prince...

[GaryW]

No one better. His Royal Purple Badness Lives On.... :beer3:

[graciegirl]

Huge talent. Amazing intellect. Compassionate person. But I didn't know much about him until he died.

[Taltarzac725]

He made some very original music. He seemed to be the favorite of some librarians at the University of Denver Graduate School of Librarianship and Information Management back in 1983-1984 but I did not hear that much admiration of him when I was at the University of Minnesota Law School. Maybe, I was in with the wrong crowd who were not Prince fans. He is from the Twin Cities area.

[Nucky]

I was aware of Prince but I see the way people are reacting to his death. I really had no idea he was so popular. Maybe I should pay more attention. Any death is sad but such a young man...not good. He music is actually very good but a little over my head. R.I.P.

[Schaumburger]

2016 has not been a good year for musicians in their 50's and 60's...Glenn Frey, David Bowie and now Prince. Great musicians all of them.

Loved Prince's music...rest in peace.

[Jaggy]

We are trying to make Friday April 22 wearing of the Purple day !!! I will be wearing my purple in honor of Prince... RIP

[DonH57]

I was quite surprised to hear of his death. Young talented musician.Sad. RIP Prince.

[Taltarzac725]

We are trying to make Friday April 22 wearing of the Purple day !!! I will be wearing my purple in honor of Prince... RIP

Not sure I have any purple. Those are the Vikings' colors-- purple and gold.

[Record10ti]

I was quite surprised to hear of his death. Young talented musician.Sad. RIP Prince.

TMZ is reporting (and they are most often correct) that he was given Narcan just a few days ago - after an OD on his plane in the Illinois side of the Quad Cities...now, an OD in his elevator at home.

Sad, but little remorse for another dead junkie who had so much (at least he was not 27 - Hendrix, Jones, Jopplin, Morrison, Cobain). The reality, are any of us shocked? The good news is that he did change his name back from

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/af/Prince_logo.svg/870px-Prince_logo.svg.png

[rubicon]

An attorney friend of mine, yes you can actually be friends with an attorney, had a home on a lake in Chanhassen and mentioned that prince built a home next door for his parents. Yes the home Prince built for them was purple in color. this lake property was so well treed that adjacent homes were well hidden . Homes so large they were equipped with elevators.

Beautiful lots, beautiful lake, quiet

[Jima64]

TMZ is reporting (and they are most often correct) that he was given Narcan just a few days ago - after an OD on his plane in the Illinois side of the Quad Cities...now, an OD in his elevator at home.

Sad, but little remorse for another dead junkie who had so much (at least he was not 27 - Hendrix, Jones, Jopplin, Morrison, Cobain). The reality, are any of us shocked? The good news is that he did change his name back from

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/af/Prince_logo.svg/870px-Prince_logo.svg.png

Probably so. Love how some like to push the use and avaiability of drug use on society as normal. Lost a great talent to his addiction.

[asianthree]

His performance at bowl in the rain was outstanding

[Taltarzac725]

http://kstp.com/politics/minnesota-senators-prince-legacy/4113857/

Prominent Minnesotans praise Prince.

I hope this is not political.

[Stdole]

Drug Addiction.... TMZ reported 4 trips in one day to
Walgreens for Percocet Pain Killer.... No good in my book for someone to honor a person of this culture. Period.. Another one off the streets

[gerryann]

Drug Addiction.... TMZ reported 4 trips in one day to
Walgreens for Percocet Pain Killer.... No good in my book for someone to honor a person of this culture. Period.. Another one off the streets

Wow, seriously? He was a human being! And you've contributed to society, how??

[ColdNoMore]

Wow, seriously? He was a human being! And you've contributed to society, how??

Agreed.


While he was definitely a bit of a strange and troubled genius (as so many geniuses are), the proof of his immense talent and mark on the world will live on for a long, long time.

R.I.P. Prince. :beer3:

[graciegirl]

So many people here are fond of him and know so much about him.I didn't know much about him at all. I read copious amounts about him last night. Tonight on 20-20 was very interesting. I didn't even recognize his hit songs. I knew and liked other groups and singers from the same era. I wonder why I was so ignorant of him.

[goodtimesintv]

Michael......Whitney......Prince....

How many more will die with their handlers/managers/financiers/agents enabling the drug addictions, to keep on milking them as cash cows.

[Yung Dum]

Why the hatred? Why call him a junkie? Do you know? He was a talented musician. Ask Eric Clapton who was the best guitarist of all time. I think we have lost another genius.

[rubicon]

Why the hatred? Why call him a junkie? Do you know? He was a talented musician. Ask Eric Clapton who was the best guitarist of all time. I think we have lost another genius.

There are two times in a person's life that other people say nice things about them retirement and death.

IMHO glossing over the reality of such people as Whitney Houston, Michael Jackson, Prince, etc sends the wrong message to young people. The drug epidemic began in the 1960's and continues today It is glorified in movie-making and with the unnecessary adoration of people who prematurely end their lives because they can't manage their lives. Prince was a talent but certainly was not making the right health choices.

I watched the series "Vinyl" as offensive as it is which gives you a glimpse of this rock and roll world. It is too painful and depressing for me to watch people self-destruct Vinyl went off my list

[RickeyD]

I've never taken interest with anyone in the entertainment/music industry. I'm not or never will be what people call a "fan". I do have respect for people that have made real contributions to our society as a whole, but again, I'm not a fan.
From the reactions I've seen in the media from people who are affected with his passing, I do have empathy for. I don't understand it, but I do concede that their feelings are real.

[Taltarzac725]

Prince death: Autopsy seeks answers - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/22/entertainment/prince-death-main/)

We should wait and see how Prince actually died before saying it was drug abuse.

[kittygilchrist]

Irascible me. Sick culture.
33 police officers died this year, and where were the blue lights?

[Taltarzac725]

Irascible me. Sick culture.
33 police officers died this year, and where were the blue lights?

There are many people who put out blue lights for slain officers. Prince wrote many very well known songs and was a top recording artist for decades. I do not have any problem with them celebrating the work and life of this artist.

[Taltarzac725]

Why the hatred? Why call him a junkie? Do you know? He was a talented musician. Ask Eric Clapton who was the best guitarist of all time. I think we have lost another genius.

I agree with you. There will always be haters. And it is not a reflection of TOTV nor of the Villages. I have met a lot of wonderful thoughtful people the almost eleven years or so I have been here in the Villages.

[rubicon]

I lived about two miles from prince's home. Passed it at least once a week. Prince excited a generation of people. i do not believe people roil against a celebrity but the life style that accompanies it. Its not the celebrity they hate its the drugs culture, etc that has become a plight on this nation

[Taltarzac725]

I lived about two miles from prince's home. Passed it at least once a week. Prince excited a generation of people. i do not believe people roil against a celebrity but the life style that accompanies it. Its not the celebrity they hate its the drugs culture, etc that has become a plight on this nation

Prince nearly overdosed on Percocet, a powerful opiate: report - NY Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/prince-overdosed-percocet-powerful-opiate-article-1.2611170)

The rumors are that it was from an overdose of a pain killer called percocet like his previous overdose six days before.

Percocet oral : Uses, Side Effects, Interactions, Pictures, Warnings & Dosing - WebMD (http://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-7277/percocet-oral/details)

This is also called oxycodone.

[janmcn]

I lived about two miles from prince's home. Passed it at least once a week. Prince excited a generation of people. i do not believe people roil against a celebrity but the life style that accompanies it. Its not the celebrity they hate its the drugs culture, etc that has become a plight on this nation


The drug that may have killed Prince is called percoset (sp?). It is a combination of OxyContin and Tylenol. These drugs are probably used by hundreds, if not thousands, of villagers every day.

[Taltarzac725]

The Current from Minnesota Public Radio (http://www.thecurrent.org/)

This site from the Twin Cities has a lot of information about Prince.

I do not own any of his CDs and do not know his songs all that well never really being a Prince fan but it seems like many people will miss his music.

[kittygilchrist]

I lived about two miles from prince's home. Passed it at least once a week. Prince excited a generation of people. i do not believe people roil against a celebrity but the life style that accompanies it. Its not the celebrity they hate its the drugs culture, etc that has become a blight on this nation

Right, Rubicon.
And those who hold up moral standards are "haters."
I never thought twice about Prince.

Editing this to add: the moral standard regards our value on the life of a great musician as deserving purple lights in cities and the white house, While fallen military or police do not matter much.
It has naught to do with the musician himself.

[gerryann]

The drug that may have killed Prince is called percoset (sp?). It is a combination of OxyContin and Tylenol. These drugs are probably used by hundreds, if not thousands, of villagers every day.

This is very true. I'll bet many of you would find this particular drug in your, your friends, your children's medicine cabinet. Very commonly prescribed for pain.
Such hate by people that don't know anything about this human being.

[gerryann]

Right, Rubicon.
And those who hold up moral standards are "haters."
I never thought twice about Prince.

In what regards do you mean "you never thought twice" ? He's a human being who died accidentally taking a prescribed drug for pain. I don't know you, but I know I'd feel bad if you died in a similar situation. At this point, no one knows exactly what happened, other than he was sick from the flu and had ongoing pain from a surgery. Nobody is calling you a "hater".....but uncaring, yes.

[graciegirl]

This is very true. I'll bet many of you would find this particular drug in your, your friends, your children's medicine cabinet. Very commonly prescribed for pain.
Such hate by people that don't know anything about this human being.



I think that if people react against a drug death, it isn't meant to hate the person but those people are reacting emotionally against the plague of drugs everywhere. Percoset is not harmful or addictive if taken carefully and for a short time.


I have been told by two doctors here in TV when "heavy" prescription drugs were prescribed here by dentists, to throw them away and try to make it through on Advil.


I have two friends who have acted angry when the discussion of a drug overdose by Prince was discussed online. Prince inspired great admiration and loyalty and was highly praised for his creativity and musical skill and his innovative clothing and choreography. The truth is that no one really knows an entertainer except the people who are with them every day. It is a highly stressful life, I would imagine.

Access Denied (http://www.drugs.com/percocet.html)

[manaboutown]

In what regards do you mean "you never thought twice" ? He's a human being who died accidentally taking a prescribed drug for pain. I don't know you, but I know I'd feel bad if you died in a similar situation. At this point, no one knows exactly what happened, other than he was sick from the flu and had ongoing pain from a surgery. Nobody is calling you a "hater".....but uncaring, yes.


Although Percocet or whatever painkillers were in Prince's system were prescribed it is unlikely they were prescribed in the quantities he had been taking. After all, he had previously overdosed. It boils down to prescribed drug use versus drug abuse.

The unfortunate truth is musicians and other celebrities lead lifestyles where pretty much anything they want is at least available to them and indeed frequently pushed upon them. Few appear have the self discipline to not overdo.

BTW I just lost a fraternity brother to a drug overdose and like Prince he was a very, very smart guy; he was a college professor and had earned two entirely separate PhDs, one in foreign languages and one in psychology. A year ago he had overdosed enough to put himself into a coma for a week.

[ColdNoMore]

Although Percocet or whatever painkillers were in Prince's system were prescribed it is unlikely they were prescribed in the quantities he had been taking. After all, he had previously overdosed. It boils down to prescribed drug use versus drug abuse.

The unfortunate truth is musicians and other celebrities lead lifestyles where pretty much anything they want is at least available to them and indeed frequently pushed upon them. Few appear have the self discipline to not overdo.

BTW I just lost a fraternity brother to a drug overdose and like Prince he was a very, very smart guy; he was a college professor and had earned two entirely separate PhDs, one in foreign languages and one in psychology. A year ago he had overdosed enough to put himself into a coma for a week.

Just like alcoholism, drug abuse can happen to the best of people.

I'm guessing that those focusing on the drug part, would not be so quick to denigrate if it were a white country and western star who died from alcohol.

[manaboutown]

Just like alcoholism, drug abuse can happen to the best of people.

I'm guessing that those focusing on the drug part, would not be so quick to denigrate if it were a white country and western star who died from alcohol.

I do not believe the color or ethnicity of the substance abuser has anything to do with the denigration of a particular user due to death from substance abuse. I know of no modern civilized society anywhere in the world condoning drug abuse. It boils down to color blind disapproval of certain behaviors. My fraternity brother was white and had struggled with alcohol as well as licit and illicit drugs for years.

[graciegirl]

Just like alcoholism, drug abuse can happen to the best of people.

I'm guessing that those focusing on the drug part, would not be so quick to denigrate if it were a white country and western star who died from alcohol.



I am completely surprised by this post. A person's ethnicity would never enter my mind in such a discussion.

[Barefoot]

The rumors are that it was from an overdose of a pain killer called percocet like his previous overdose six days before.
I'm not a Prince fan.
But I think it's a shame that when a celebrity passes, the Media jumps on the bandwagon to offer rumors and speculation.

[Taltarzac725]

I'm not a Prince fan.
But I think it's a shame that when a celebrity passes, the Media jumps on the bandwagon to offer rumors and speculation.

Actually this was more Facebook stuff not the media per se.

We will have to wait and see what the results actually say caused Prince's untimely death.

[NoMoSno]

the Media jumps on the bandwagon to offer rumors and speculation.
That's what the media is best at.:doh:

[ColdNoMore]

I am completely surprised by this post. A person's ethnicity would never enter my mind in such a discussion.

Since I don't know you, I certainly didn't intend to imply that you would be one of them.

I was referencing mostly posts I've seen on Facebook and the internet, whereby a number of people have expressed joy at "another thug from the hood" dying from drugs.

[janmcn]

For all the Prince fans, SNL is doing a tribute show tonight featuring recent performances. Set your DVR's.

[ColdNoMore]

For all the Prince fans, SNL is doing a tribute show tonight featuring recent performances. Set your DVR's.

Thanks for the heads up! :ho:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLUY2TVyhV8

[goodtimesintv]

I'm surprised that people are acting like Prince was the greatest and most important person who ever walked into their lives......when all they ever saw was a staged performance via television/internet, or heard his voice on radio/CD.

I'm surprised at how many here and across the nation are acting stunned that he was a drug addict and that he died from it. I always thought those characteristics were written all over him, via his odd, maybe bisexual behavior and cross dressing, and his reclusiveness so much like Michael Jackson.

And by the way, the lyrics to Little Red Corvette are porn filthy, which took me awhile to realize back in the 80s. That's okay for others if that's what they want.....people are free to like what they like. But I don't see the reason for the worship that's going on over him.

[kstew43]

If you read or heard the details of his death you would be aware of the facts...or so they are explaining.

Prince was not a drug addict.....he had a hip issue and was perscribed the pain meds for that issue.

That being said....the pain might of gotten extreme and he overdid the medications.....but .. he was not what I consider a drug addict.

[graciegirl]

I'm not a Prince fan.
But I think it's a shame that when a celebrity passes, the Media jumps on the bandwagon to offer rumors and speculation.



That is, unfortunately their job.


Percocet Addiction - Help with Percocet Abuse & Withdrawal (http://www.recoveryconnection.org/percocet-addiction-information/)

[manaboutown]

Some people play the race card at every chance they get whether or not it is warranted.

[goodtimesintv]

Just like alcoholism, drug abuse can happen to the best of people.

I'm guessing that those focusing on the drug part, would not be so quick to denigrate if it were a white country and western star who died from alcohol.

Speak for yourself.

Stereotyping masses of people you wouldn't recognize if they walked into your living room right now is just, plain ignorant.

Unlike the race baiters hellbent on dividing our society, most of us don't inject race into every single thought, word and deed. Sick of that crap!!

[Fortunate1]

It looks as if his death might be from an accidental OD due to pain killers for
recent hip surgery.
We are hearing more and more about this creative genius , and , while I'm
glad to know it , I wish his life wasn't cut short in that way ....

Oprah had a tribute to him tonight on the OWN Network --perhaps it will be repeated for any fans that didn't see it .

RIP Prince O(+>

[Taltarzac725]

It looks as if his death might be from an accidental OD due to pain killers for
recent hip surgery.
We are hearing more and more about this creative genius , and , while I'm
glad to know it , I wish his life wasn't cut short in that way ....

Oprah had a tribute to him tonight on the OWN Network --perhaps it will be repeated for any fans that didn't see it .

RIP Prince O(+>

Thanks for posting that. I was listening to Amy Grant more than Prince when I lived in the Twin Cities from 1986 through late 1991. Prince was never really to my taste in music until I heard about all the music he wrote for other artists which is quite different from his usually very sexually provocative lyrics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Grant

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_in_Motion

[rubicon]

Right, Rubicon.
And those who hold up moral standards are "haters."
I never thought twice about Prince.

Editing this to add: the moral standard regards our value on the life of a great musician as deserving purple lights in cities and the white house, While fallen military or police do not matter much.
It has naught to do with the musician himself.

kittygilchrist: As a people too many of us have become so accustom to immoral and destructive behavior we don't even recognize it any longer. Its like those warning bells that engage when a construction vehicle is backing but given day after day exposure the bell disappears and just becomes white noise.

the drug problem in this country has destroyed so many lives over the years and we have gotten so use to it too many of us think its normal or worse don't even notice.

so when someone like me says well what do you expect was going to happen giving your abuses.... its hater?

I was reared by a father with a John Wayne mentality if i complained that my teacher was not fair his reply would be then learn to get along with your teacher and fix the unfairness. I once stolen what I thought was a roll of live savers but were tums. I wasn't even a smart crook. The store owner knew my father and called him. My father took me to the store made me apologize and told the store owner to put me to work in the store and he would return later in the day to pick me up. I was a second grader then and that store owner worked me.

How many fathers would do something like this today?

And oh that construction truck I referenced my staff investigated such an accident. the vehicle was backing with a warning bell that could be heard for blocks away but a female construction worker apparently could not and was pulled under the large wheels of this truck head first. May God rest her soul

Personal Best Regards:

[kittygilchrist]

Love the story about stealing tums. I picked up a shiny penny at my neighbors and got whupped across the dirt road to give it back.
My mother was an overly compassionate loser as a spanker, and dad never did it, she wouldn't let him?
Enjoyed your post.

[Taltarzac725]

kittygilchrist: As a people too many of us have become so accustom to immoral and destructive behavior we don't even recognize it any longer. Its like those warning bells that engage when a construction vehicle is backing but given day after day exposure the bell disappears and just becomes white noise.

the drug problem in this country has destroyed so many lives over the years and we have gotten so use to it too many of us think its normal or worse don't even notice.

so when someone like me says well what do you expect was going to happen giving your abuses.... its hater?

I was reared by a father with a John Wayne mentality if i complained that my teacher was not fair his reply would be then learn to get along with your teacher and fix the unfairness. I once stolen what I thought was a roll of live savers but were tums. I wasn't even a smart crook. The store owner knew my father and called him. My father took me to the store made me apologize and told the store owner to put me to work in the store and he would return later in the day to pick me up. I was a second grader then and that store owner worked me.

How many fathers would do something like this today?

And oh that construction truck I referenced my staff investigated such an accident. the vehicle was backing with a warning bell that could be heard for blocks away but a female construction worker apparently could not and was pulled under the large wheels of this truck head first. May God rest her soul

Personal Best Regards:

I believe I tried something like you did. Mine was some kind of candy --not Tums-- when I was also probably around the same age. The store owner also called my parents but that is about all I remember. Except he might have called the cops too. The was near Milwaukee, WI.

The cops were called when I took off at age three for the hills when they brought home by late brother Chuck. I was riding my tri-cycle and got a mile or more away.

I stole some lunch money off a girl's desk around 5th grade and remember the teacher told us she would turn off the lights and let the culprit return the money. I kind of thought she was going to turn the light on as soon as she heard something and it was not all that dark in the classroom. I went down to the store and bought a jar of chocolate syrup, drank it on the way home, and got pretty sick. Reno, Nevada at that time and the teacher might have been the wife of the News Anchor from one of the Reno TV stations named Bob Carroll. Bob Carroll | KUNR (http://kunr.org/people/bob-carroll#stream/0)

Chuck died of long-term alcoholism on December 4, 2014. This seems to be a real problem too like drug abuse.

[goodtimesintv]

What a bunch of losers, idolizing and worshiping a reclusive, gender-conflicted drug addict by lighting up famous buildings around the world, and even the interior of a Delta Airlines passenger flight, in purple.

If it were for Elvis, I could see it. He worshiped God and served our country in the military.

But those attributes are not valued nor honored now. Instead, gullible people are flocking to more of Beyonce's video poison set out for young people to feed on in the constant diet of hatred for whites, cops, and civilized authority figures.

Purple Rain: Cities Across the Country Light Up in Memory of Prince | KTLA (http://ktla.com/2016/04/21/bathed-in-purple-how-cities-across-the-u-s-are-honoring-prince/)


:ohdear:

[manaboutown]

I just read "Doctor D" (don't you just love the pseudonym), Prince's former drug dealer, was selling Prince $40K of painkillers such as Dilaudid and fenatyl every six months. Prince had been using opiods over 25 years.

His death is turning out to likely not be an "accidental" overdose of prescribed medication.

[gerryann]

His death is turning out to likely not be an "accidental" overdose of prescribed medication.

I disagree. I DO feel that he overdosed, but I think he accidentally (due to pain) took too many. We may never know for sure. The cost of the drugs that you mention is really not a big deal for him. You may not realize how extremely difficult it is to legitimately get these drugs WITH A SCRIPT. They are very hard to come by. I know a few folks that need Percocet or Vicodin or OxyContin. (For very legitimate reasons). Most of your regular pharmacies don't have them.

[gerryann]

What a bunch of losers, idolizing and worshiping a reclusive, gender-conflicted drug addict by lighting up famous buildings around the world, and even the interior of a Delta Airlines passenger flight, in purple.

If it were for Elvis, I could see it. He worshiped God and served our country in the military.

But those attributes are not valued nor honored now. Instead, gullible people are flocking to more of Beyonce's video poison set out for young people to feed on in the constant diet of hatred for whites, cops, and civilized authority figures.

Purple Rain: Cities Across the Country Light Up in Memory of Prince | KTLA (http://ktla.com/2016/04/21/bathed-in-purple-how-cities-across-the-u-s-are-honoring-prince/)


:ohdear:
I feel sorry for you that you can't understand another's feelings towards someone that they liked, who passed at an early age.
Prince was NOT a drug abuser......Elvis was.
Good grief, don't be so bitter.

[ColdNoMore]

I feel sorry for you that you can't understand another's feelings towards someone that they liked, who passed at an early age.
Prince was NOT a drug abuser......Elvis was.
Good grief, don't be so bitter.

Well said.

In addition, I admired and respected his creative genius, but certainly did not "idolize & worship" him.

[graciegirl]

Prince And Doctor D - Bing News (http://www.bing.com/news/search?q=Prince+And+Doctor+D&qpvt=Prince+and+Doctor+d&FORM=EWRE)




There is a list of publications talking about the long time drug habit. But of course that could be because it was aired by one wire and picked up by others.

[Taltarzac725]

Well said.

In addition, I admired and respected his creative genius, but certainly did not "idolize & worship" him.

He did have a great deal of musical talent. Most of his music was not to my taste but neither was that of Elvis Presley.

[Barefoot]

I feel sorry for you that you can't understand another's feelings towards someone that they liked, who passed at an early age.
Prince was NOT a drug abuser......Elvis was.
Good grief, don't be so bitter.:agree:

[manaboutown]

I disagree. I DO feel that he overdosed, but I think he accidentally (due to pain) took too many. We may never know for sure. The cost of the drugs that you mention is really not a big deal for him. You may not realize how extremely difficult it is to legitimately get these drugs WITH A SCRIPT. They are very hard to come by. I know a few folks that need Percocet or Vicodin or OxyContin. (For very legitimate reasons). Most of your regular pharmacies don't have them.

Well, so far the jury is out on what killed him. However, if he was illegally buying unprescribed opiods to the tune of $40K every 6 mos. without question he was a full blown druggie!

[gerryann]

Well, so far the jury is out on what killed him. However, if he was illegally buying unprescribed opiods to the tune of $40K every 6 mos. without question he was a full blown druggie!

I disagree with your assumption. We will just have to wait till the results come out.
Very often Dr's will see to it that you get what you need....don't forget what happened to Michael Jackson.

I believe most "druggies" are looking for a "high". I believe that Prince was only looking for pain relief.

[manaboutown]

I disagree with your assumption. We will just have to wait till the results come out.
Very often Dr's will see to it that you get what you need....don't forget what happened to Michael Jackson.

I believe most "druggies" are looking for a "high". I believe that Prince was only looking for pain relief.

Druggies will tell you anything to excuse their behavior. $40K/6 mos. to drug dealers for unprescribed drugs buys highs, not pain relief.

[goodtimesintv]

I feel sorry for you that you can't understand another's feelings towards someone that they liked, who passed at an early age.
Prince was NOT a drug abuser......Elvis was.
Good grief, don't be so bitter.

LOL......

How many famous people--including heads of state or a true leader-role model for the good of humanity, such as Nelson Mandela or Martin Luther King or Malala Yousafzai--have been honored in life or in death with colored lighting of buildings around the world?????

The misplaced priorities here are appalling.

[gerryann]

Druggies will tell you anything to excuse their behavior. $40K/6 mos. to drug dealers for unprescribed drugs buys highs, not pain relief.

I disagree. $40K/6mon for Prince is nothing. You'll just have to wait to find out if you're correct.....

[gerryann]

LOL......

How many famous people--including heads of state or a true leader-role model for the good of humanity, such as Nelson Mandela or Martin Luther King or Malala Yousafzai--have been honored in life or in death with colored lighting of buildings around the world?????

The misplaced priorities here are appalling.

I certainly don't find it appealing. That's a bit dramatic.

It's something new to do this lighting of buildings,bridges,etc. I think you will see a lot more of it in the future.

What can I say......it's a strange world we live in..

[goodtimesintv]

I disagree. $40K/6mon for Prince is nothing. You'll just have to wait to find out if you're correct.....

enabler
noun en·abler \i-ˈnā-b(ə-)lər\

Medical Definition of ENABLER

: one that enables another to achieve an end; especially : one who enables another to persist in self-destructive behavior (as substance abuse) by providing excuses or by helping that individual avoid the consequences of such behavior

[manaboutown]

I disagree. $40K/6mon for Prince is nothing. You'll just have to wait to find out if you're correct.....

It may have been nothing to him financially but it verifies he was a drug addict.

[Taltarzac725]

Heroin in the Heartland - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/heroin-in-the-heartland-60-minutes-2/)

There was a very interesting segment on 60 Minutes about addiction to heroin and drug courts.

We should, though, wait and see what actually killed Prince before passing judgement on him and calling him a drug addict.

I often really need my allergy medicine because of all the pollen here in the Villages which does not make me a drug addict.

[graciegirl]

People often find it difficult to accept criticism of people they admire and identify with. Or people who have been successful doing something that folks admire or have tried to do themselves or something they enjoy very much, or something that they see requires great talent and skill.

I am that way with the developers here. I hope I am not completely blind to their faults.

I have never heard them sing....................;)

[Taltarzac725]

People often find it difficult to accept criticism of people they admire and identify with. Or people who have been successful doing something that folks admire or have tried to do themselves or something they enjoy very much, or something that they see requires great talent and skill.

I am that way with the developers here. I hope I am not completely blind to their faults.

I have never heard them sing....................;)

I would expect that some of the Villages' developments take various medications quite regularly especially for all the pollen in the Villages.

I cannot remember if Megan Boone sings as one of her characters in her various TV and movie roles? Her character Elizabeth Keen is still "dead" on The Blacklist but we will see what happens. My guess is that she is on Maternity Leave from the show and will pop up some time.

Maybe, she will sing to her baby at some point in a later episode.

[graciegirl]

I would expect that some of the Villages' developments take various medications quite regularly especially for all the pollen in the Villages.

I cannot remember if Megan Boone sings as one of her characters in her various TV and movie roles? Her character Elizabeth Keen is still "dead" on The Blacklist but we will see what happens. My guess is that she is on Maternity Leave from the show and will pop up some time.

Maybe, she will sing to her baby at some point in a later episode.

I love you Tal, but you are not only quite bright, but quite literal as well. I was going for a light response to a very emotional topic.

Hugs to you, Tal.

[Taltarzac725]

Vanity 6, "Nasty Girl" (1982) - 15 Great Prince Songs That Were Hits for Other Artists | Rolling Stone (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/15-great-prince-songs-that-were-hits-for-other-artists-20160421/vanity-6-nasty-girl-1982-20160421)

It looks like Prince wrote some of my favorite songs.

He is not one of the celebrities I tried to get involved in the 224 613 Project but there are a large number of people called celebrities whom I tried to get involved in some way. Prince never entered my mind as someone to contact. NFL Commissioners, news anchors, actors, writers, movie directors, other musicians, but not Prince. I regret not trying to get him involved. I write Viking Cheerleaders and not Prince, where is my head?

[gerryann]

Heroin in the Heartland - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/heroin-in-the-heartland-60-minutes-2/)

There was a very interesting segment on 60 Minutes about addiction to heroin and drug courts.

We should, though, wait and see what actually killed Prince before passing judgement on him and calling him a drug addict.

I often really need my allergy medicine because of all the pollen here in the Villages which does not make me a drug addict.

I agree with your comments.

In relation to your allergies.....if you were in extreme pain, to what lengths and expense would you go to to control the pain?

Have you never had "one too many drinks"......have you never accidentally taken an overdose of a prescribed pill? Unfortunately, it happens all the time to a lot of people. Well, I think that given the amount of drugs that Prince needed (or felt he needed) to control his pain....he accidentally took one too many and didn't come out of it.

[graciegirl]

I would need a little "Dutch Courage" to get up and perform before multitudes of people. I think that this is the reason that Judy Garland died of addiction. It is not easy to be "on" all of the time, to lose your anonymity, to keep your act and physique fresh, and interesting and keep the public's eye. Many, many, many, many people who are dearly loved entertainers have run into the addiction demon. Robin Williams, another genius.

I believe that Michael Jackson abused children, but there are some of my friends who will argue forever that he was NOT a pedophile. When we love, or adulate, we lose our objectivity.

[Taltarzac725]

I would need a little "Dutch Courage" to get up and perform before multitudes of people. I think that this is the reason that Judy Garland died of addiction. It is not easy to be "on" all of the time, to lose your anonymity, to keep your act and physique fresh, and interesting and keep the public's eye. Many, many, many, many people who are dearly loved entertainers have run into the addiction demon. Robin Williams, another genius.

I believe that Michael Jackson abused children, but there are some of my friends who will argue forever that he was NOT a pedophile. When we love, or adulate, we lose our objectivity.

Michael Jackson seemed like someone who never grew up and also someone who did not appreciate consequences of actions. Not really sure if he did molest kids as he just might have been the target of some get rich quick con artists using their kids as leverage to get money in out-of-court settlements. That is just an opinion though.

OJ Simpson probably did get away with murder but the prosecution did not really meet their burden of proof.

[mgjim]

Frankly, I've been taken by surprise over the outpouring of grief over Prince's death. I was not a fan of his music and didn't know much about him despite the fact that I was born and raised in Minnesota and moved back there after my military career ended.

I suppose this public display is not unusual given the state of celebrity worship we are experiencing these days. But then, I'm reminded of the death and funeral of Rudolph Valentino in 1926. I guess everything old is new again.

Anyway, I'm sure Prince's family members and close friends are feeling genuine grief and, for them, I am sympathetic.

[goodtimesintv]

Besides the drug-addict, sick role modeling being promoted, and besides the role modeling of enabler behavior being fed to young people, this whole Prince worship with purple lighting of public buildings is another giant example of the double standard promoted when it is Hollywood-liberal media and marketing in the driver's seat of public, governmental agencies.

People now scream and cry that they are victims, "offended" by public building displays and even the mention of "Christmas". Christian groups are branded "offensive" for placing Christmas displays on/at public buildings and schools and grounds.

So why is it not "offensive" when public buildings and structures, such as the Atlanta City Hall, Birmingham City Hall, Los Angeles City Hall, San Francisco City Hall, the I-35 Bridge in MN, and many other such public structures across the nation celebrate and worship Prince with purple lighting, at significant taxpayer expense!

What the h*ll is wrong with people who cannot see the double standard that is just fine when it is a drug-addict Jehovah's Witness (anti-Christmas) entertainer being celebrated/worshiped on public buildings, but the word 'Christmas' in lights or a nativity scene lit at a public building sends the opposition into a frenzy to punish Christians--with fines and cease/desist orders--in the public courts?????

Think!!

[graciegirl]

Besides the drug-addict, sick role modeling being promoted, and besides the role modeling of enabler behavior being fed to young people, this whole Prince worship with purple lighting of public buildings is another giant example of the double standard promoted when it is Hollywood-liberal media and marketing in the driver's seat of public, governmental agencies.

People now scream and cry that they are victims, "offended" by public building displays and even the mention of "Christmas". Christian groups are branded "offensive" for placing Christmas displays on/at public buildings and schools and grounds.

So I find it offensive when public buildings and structures, such as the Atlanta City Hall, Birmingham City Hall, Los Angeles City Hall, San Francisco City Hall, the I-35 Bridge in MN, and many other such public structures across the nation celebrate and worship Prince with purple lighting, at significant taxpayer expense!

What the h*ll is wrong with people who cannot see the double standard that is just fine when it is a drug-addict Jehovah's Witness (anti-Christmas) being celebrated/worshiped on public buildings, but the word Christmas in lights or a nativity scene lit at a public building sends the opposition into a frenzy to punish Christians in the courts?????

Think!!

I wonder why this bothers some more than others. I care about your beliefs because they are much like mine, but am not angered by people being entranced with sports figures or performing artists. I think it is a part of our human make up to find our gods and goddesses so to speak.. As a kid I was nuts about June Allyson and as I grow older, my hero's are more figures of science, but I know I am not quite......ummm right.;)

We all have our own set of values, obtained early and perhaps changed by life experience and not much can shake what we think is right and wrong. I think enjoying performers and public figures is fairly harmless and I think we all do it to some degree. I like the references to Christianity that are here and about in our landscape because of our traditions, but that offends many.

I feel everyday that I walk in a mine field of trying NOT to offend peoples belief's. I just wish that so many things I find innocent didn't have double or triple meanings and we didn't have to watch what we say.

[goodtimesintv]

I wonder why this bothers some more than others. I care about your beliefs because they are much like mine, but am not angered by people being entranced with sports figures or performing artists. I think it is a part of our human make up to find our gods and goddesses so to speak.. As a kid I was nuts about June Allyson and as I grow older, my hero's are more figures of science, but I know I am not quite......ummm right.;)

We all have our own set of values, obtained early and perhaps changed by life experience and not much can shake what we think is right and wrong. I think enjoying performers and public figures is fairly harmless and I think we all do it to some degree. I like the references to Christianity that are here and about in our landscape because of our traditions, but that offends many.

I feel everyday that I walk in a mine field of trying NOT to offend peoples belief's. I just wish that so many things I find innocent didn't have double or triple meanings and we didn't have to watch what we say.

I edited my post above to say "So why is it not 'offensive' when..." instead of "I" (personally) "find it offensive".

Again, it is the double standard that's being promoted, in favor of the crowd that is usually the quickest to be 'offended' by displays by their political/religious opponents on public property.

[Taltarzac725]

Besides the drug-addict, sick role modeling being promoted, and besides the role modeling of enabler behavior being fed to young people, this whole Prince worship with purple lighting of public buildings is another giant example of the double standard promoted when it is Hollywood-liberal media and marketing in the driver's seat of public, governmental agencies.

People now scream and cry that they are victims, "offended" by public building displays and even the mention of "Christmas". Christian groups are branded "offensive" for placing Christmas displays on/at public buildings and schools and grounds.

So why is it not "offensive" when public buildings and structures, such as the Atlanta City Hall, Birmingham City Hall, Los Angeles City Hall, San Francisco City Hall, the I-35 Bridge in MN, and many other such public structures across the nation celebrate and worship Prince with purple lighting, at significant taxpayer expense!

What the h*ll is wrong with people who cannot see the double standard that is just fine when it is a drug-addict Jehovah's Witness (anti-Christmas) entertainer being celebrated/worshiped on public buildings, but the word 'Christmas' in lights or a nativity scene lit at a public building sends the opposition into a frenzy to punish Christians--with fines and cease/desist orders--in the public courts?????

Think!!

The US and MN Constitution forbids promoting one specific religion at the cost of others which probably is why some people get angry when the State promotes Christianity over other religions.

Sec. 16. Freedom of conscience; no preference to be given to any religious establishment or mode of worship.The enumeration of rights in this constitution shall not deny or impair others retained by and inherent in the people. The right of every man to worship God according to the dictates of his own conscience shall never be infringed; nor shall any man be compelled to attend, erect or support any place of worship, or to maintain any religious or ecclesiastical ministry, against his consent; nor shall any control of or interference with the rights of conscience be permitted, or any preference be given by law to any religious establishment or mode of worship; but the liberty of conscience hereby secured shall not be so construed as to excuse acts of licentiousness or justify practices inconsistent with the peace or safety of the state, nor shall any money be drawn from the treasury for the benefit of any religious societies or religious or theological seminaries.
Sec. 17. Religious tests and property qualifications prohibited.No religious test or amount of property shall be required as a qualification for any office of public trust in the state. No religious test or amount of property shall be required as a qualification of any voter at any election in this state; nor shall any person be rendered incompetent to give evidence in any court of law or equity in consequence of his opinion upon the subject of religion. Article I of the MN Constitution.

The purple on buildings has nothing to do with Prince's religious beliefs as he was a very private person about his religion. That's about his music.

I do not own any of his CDs and probably have not knowingly listened to a song of his in decades.

More about Prince-- Then and Now: Scenes from Purple Rain | Local Current Blog | The Current from Minnesota Public Radio (http://blog.thecurrent.org/2014/07/then-and-now-scenes-from-purple-rain/)

[goodtimesintv]

The US and MN Constitution forbids promoting one specific religion at the cost of others which probably is why some people get angry when the State promotes Christianity over other religions.

Article I of the MN Constitution.

The purple on buildings has nothing to do with Prince's religious beliefs as he was a very private person about his religion. That's about his music.

I do not own any of his CDs and probably have not knowingly listened to a song of his in decades.

More about Prince-- Then and Now: Scenes from Purple Rain | Local Current Blog | The Current from Minnesota Public Radio (http://blog.thecurrent.org/2014/07/then-and-now-scenes-from-purple-rain/)

Yeah.

So why is Prince, a highly private and reclusive private-sector figure, celebrated/honored/adored with costly lighting shows at public taxpayer expense, while other public-sector leaders and benefactors are not??

We already know the answer, and it is Hollywood media partisan preferences.

Also, it is mistaken to say Prince "was a very private person about his religion". This article from 2010 below, and many others, told about how he "dazzled fans" when he went out "knocking on doors" as Jehovah's Witness members do.

Knocking on doors of strangers (and children alone at home without an adult present), and persisting with the magazine subscription, is hardly keeping one's religion "private".

Prince 'Freaked Out' Fans When Knocking on Doors as Jehovah's Witness (http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/w0004412.html)

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[gerryann]

People often find it difficult to accept criticism of people they admire and identify with. Or people who have been successful doing something that folks admire or have tried to do themselves or something they enjoy very much, or something that they see requires great talent and skill.


What's funny Grace is that I am not a Prince fan. When he passed I wasn't even aware that he was popular during MY younger years.....I remember my kids listening to him. I knew nothing about the man except what has been put out there after his death. What made me upset was this ridiculous comment by "goodtimesinrv"
"What a bunch of losers, idolizing and worshiping a reclusive, gender-conflicted drug addict by lighting up famous buildings around the world, and even the interior of a Delta Airlines passenger flight, in purple."

Who in the heck is he/she to call fans of anyone losers? And calling Prince a gender-conflicted drug addict? He/she obviously knows nothing about Prince. There are a lot of folks who obviously adored him and "goodtimesinrv" has a problem with anyone liking someone that he doesn't. If he/she simply likes to stir the pot...stir it about something that they know something about.

[gerryann]

Yeah.

So why is Prince, a highly private and reclusive private-sector figure, celebrated/honored/adored with costly lighting shows at public taxpayer expense, while other public-sector leaders and benefactors are not??

We already know the answer, and it is Hollywood media partisan preferences.

Also, it is mistaken to say Prince "was a very private person about his religion". This article from 2010 below, and many others, told about how he "dazzled fans" when he went out "knocking on doors" as Jehovah's Witness members do.

Knocking on doors of strangers (and children alone at home without an adult present), and persisting with the magazine subscription, is hardly keeping one's religion "private".

Prince 'Freaked Out' Fans When Knocking on Doors as Jehovah's Witness (http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/w0004412.html)

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He knocked on doors because his religion tells the members that they want them to.
It WAS kept private. He never spoke of it public,ly. The media never spoke of it.

[redwitch]

1. Prince spoke out frequently against any drug abuse. He must have been in great pain to use Percocet if his private life was even close to his public image, especially given his religion.

2. Autopsy results are not in, so any cause of death is nothing but pure speculation.

3. I doubt Prince was gender conflicted in the least. He was known to have dated and bedded many beautiful women in his younger days. Don't confuse outlandish costumes by entertainers with their personal activities.

Rail as much as you like about the hero-worship and public expense of purple lights, that's reasonable. But get your facts straight About someone before you start calling them names.

[gerryann]

redwitch, you said it better than I. :)

[Walt.]

Boy... if only we could only gather up 1,999 crying purple doves. Then we could all gather in a field somewhere and release them while crying and giving each other hugs. Of course the media would be called first to witness this sincere outpouring of emotion.

This lightbulb thing is interesting. With bulbs lasting so long someone should sell a set (like crayons) so you could be ready for any occasion. If somebody is kidnapped do you take the bulb out? Do the "Black Lives Matter" folks put in black bulbs and you stumble around in the dark? Hmmm.... if you put a black bulb in a lamp why doesn't the room get dark when you turn it on? Inquiring minds want to know!

[Rapscallion St Croix]

Prince Schmintz. I'm busy mourning Merle Haggard.

[gerryann]

Prince Schmintz. I'm busy mourning Merle Haggard.

Ha! Me too. We sure have lost a lot of our generation music/acting stars lately, haven't we?

[goodtimesintv]

He knocked on doors because his religion tells the members that they want them to.
It WAS kept private. He never spoke of it public,ly. The media never spoke of it.

Oh, really? "He never spoke of it publicly"?? "The media never spoke of it"??

There are plenty of articles about it from years past:

Prince goes door to door for Jehovah's Witnesses.
The famously shy musician takes his beliefs on the road

Oct. 15, 2003

Prince goes door to door for Jehovah's Witnesses | EW.com (http://www.ew.com/article/2003/10/15/prince-goes-door-door-jehovahs-witnesses)


Prince preaches as a Jehovah’s Witness door to door in LA

November 17, 2008

Cele|bitchy | Prince preaches as a Jehovah (http://www.celebitchy.com/22394/prince_preaches_as_a_jehovahs_witness_door_to_door _in_la/)


BBC Magazine
The Jehovah's Witnesses' new tactic

8 July 2014

The Jehovah's Witnesses' new tactic - BBC News (http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-28166192)


The New Yorker - NOVEMBER 24, 2008 ISSUE

Soup With Prince

Soup With Prince - The New Yorker (http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2008/11/24/soup-with-prince)

[gerryann]

Of course he spoke of it....he, nor the media dwelled on it.

[goodtimesintv]

1. Prince spoke out frequently against any drug abuse. He must have been in great pain to use Percocet if his private life was even close to his public image, especially given his religion.

2. Autopsy results are not in, so any cause of death is nothing but pure speculation.

3. I doubt Prince was gender conflicted in the least. He was known to have dated and bedded many beautiful women in his younger days. Don't confuse outlandish costumes by entertainers with their personal activities.

Rail as much as you like about the hero-worship and public expense of purple lights, that's reasonable. But get your facts straight About someone before you start calling them names.

OK.....

So please explain to us why public taxpayer money must pay for costly lighting shows on public buildings/structures like city halls of L.A., Atlanta, Birmingham, San Francisco, etc. and like at least one interstate highway bridge i.e. I-35 in Mpls...

..for a Hollywood celebrity, who's not a public official or benefactor.

[ColdNoMore]

redwitch, you said it better than I. :)

I think you both said it very well. :ho:

[gerryann]

OK.....

So please explain to us why public taxpayer money must pay for costly lighting shows on public buildings/structures like city halls of L.A., Atlanta, Birmingham, San Francisco, etc. and like at least one interstate highway bridge i.e. I-35 in Mpls...

..for a Hollywood celebrity, who's not a public official or benefactor.

Because that's life.

[rubicon]

He did have a great deal of musical talent. Most of his music was not to my taste but neither was that of Elvis Presley.

genius can be found in Bach Vivaldi, etc. Notice the degradation of music reflecting in our societal values following the 1940's & 1950' compared to ..1960's --2016 .....Nat King Cole, Frank Sinatra, etc . great musicals South Pacific, Guys and Dolls, Porgy & Bess etc.

Love song were actually about love back then. Music was uplifting intellectual civil

[bigrig353]

Druggies Die.....always will and always have. Even Ex Druggies have shorter lives.

[rubicon]

$40k spent over a six month period on drugs in my view denotes a serious problem?

[bigrig353]

He was junkie...that's why you call him a junkie..

[bigrig353]

Amen Brother!

[rubicon]

a celebrity has the money and the power to hire the smartest public relations firms in the world. These PR firms are so good at what they do they could design a campaign to make Hitler appear to be a Mother Theresa.

So for now we will never really know the truth.

The latest is that he suffered fro hip pain because of all the dancing etc while wearing high heel shoes. His religion placed medical restrictions on the logical remedies.

So he turned to drugs because of continual pain. I was a a Board of Directors for an organization that worked with drug addicts. I periodically attended group sessions as a basis for seeing what they did and then going out and soliciting charitable funds . an elderly woman sticks in my mind. I listened intently when she told her story of addiction...it all started with securing pain medication......and before she knew it she was hooked badly.

I have like many on TOTV been in situations where pain medication was prescribed either I limited it to a few days until I could begin to move or rejected it outright. I do not have an addictive personalty

Perhaps like many celebrities Prince had his Doctor Feel Good?

[Polar Bear]

genius can be found in Bach Vivaldi, etc. Notice the degradation of music reflecting in our societal values following the 1940's & 1950' compared to ..1960's --2016 .....Nat King Cole, Frank Sinatra, etc . great musicals South Pacific, Guys and Dolls, Porgy & Bess etc.

Love song were actually about love back then. Music was uplifting intellectual civil
You don't think our parents said roughly the same about our generation's artistry and values? (And their parents before them, etc., etc.)

[ColdNoMore]

You don't think our parents said roughly the same about our generation's artistry and values? (And their parents before them, etc., etc.)

You took the words right out of my mouth (or fingers, to be precise...LOL).

[rubicon]

You don't think our parents said roughly the same about our generation's artistry and values? (And their parents before them, etc., etc.)

Polar Bear: Really! You think what you witnessing on music videos today is what we did? Not on my block. You believe the social norms today equate with our day? Not on my block. You think that boastful vulgarity was tolerated in our day? Not on my block

Yes our parents said the same thing about us, but can you imagine what they would be thinking and saying about today's young generation? I'll bet we would be looking good to them

[Taltarzac725]

Polar Bear: Really! You think what you witnessing on music videos today is what we did? Not on my block. You believe the social norms today equate with our day? Not on my block. You think that boastful vulgarity was tolerated in our day? Not on my block

Yes our parents said the same thing about us, but can you imagine what they would be thinking and saying about today's young generation? I'll bet we would be looking good to them

Have you talked to some of the people in this born 2000-2010 generation? Granted there are some troubled kids that make the national news but many of them seem very well adjusted given what they see in movies and on TV as well as in some popular books series like The Hunger Games.

Talk to some of the Villages' kids. I mean those going to the various charter schools.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Polar Bear: Really! You think what you witnessing on music videos today is what we did? Not on my block. You believe the social norms today equate with our day? Not on my block. You think that boastful vulgarity was tolerated in our day? Not on my block

Yes our parents said the same thing about us, but can you imagine what they would be thinking and saying about today's young generation? I'll bet we would be looking good to them

Do you think that the social norms of the sixties equated with those of the forties? Or those of the eighties equated with those of the sixties?

How much did our society and culture change from 1980 to 2000?

Each generation though that the one following was outrageous. The world been evolving (or devolving depending on your perspective) since the beginning of time.

Do you remember what our parents said about The Beatles? Yet they were mild compared to what's going on today. But they were outrageous compared to Sinatra who was a similar teenage fad that parents hated.

Do you remember when Clark Gable said "damn" in a movie. It was outrageous. I'm sure the grandparents of that time thought that was just as bad as what we think of today's youth. The world was going to hell. Ooops, maybe I shouldn't have said hell.

Of course today's social norms are way different than those of the 1890s. We've gone though almost seven generations which each one changing a bit more than the last.

I don't know what's going to happen in the future and I'm not sure that I want to know. I do know that things are going to change and our children are going to look at their children and think about the good old days of the early 2000s when decency ruled.

[Taltarzac725]

Flashback: See Prince and Sheryl Crow's 'Everyday Is a Winding Road' | Rolling Stone (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/flashback-see-prince-and-sheryl-crows-everyday-is-a-winding-road-20160425)

Sheryl Crow and Prince in concert in 1999.

[Polar Bear]

...Yes our parents said the same thing about us...

So we agree then. :)

[graciegirl]

So we agree then. :)

Some things do remain pretty much the same, over time.

the kingston trio merry minuet - Bing video (http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=the+kingston+trio+merry+minuet&qpvt=the+kingston+trio+merry+minuet&view=detail&mid=50C99F936C8B4F2AC12150C99F936C8B4F2AC121&FORM=VRDGAR)

[jbdlfan]

You don't think our parents said roughly the same about our generation's artistry and values? (And their parents before them, etc., etc.)

I think this is before your parents.....
Plato complained
about the youth of the day, also. "What is happening to our young
people? They disrespect their elders, they disobey their parents. They
ignore the law. They riot in the streets inflamed with wild notions.
Their morals are decaying. What is to become of them?" I think this is
a direct quote, but can't find the reference at the moment.

Here's another one:
"I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on
frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless beyond
words... When I was young, we were taught to be discreet and
respectful of elders, but the present youth are exceedingly wise
[disrespectful] and impatient of restraint" (Hesiod, 8th century BC).

[jbdlfan]

Elvis- drug user, drunk, womanizer
Sinatra-mob, drunk, womanizer
Dean Martin- drunk, womanizer
Hank Williams-drunk, womanizer
Billy Holiday-drunk, drugs
Johnny Cash-everything
This stuff isn't unique. It was just hidden better by the press. Same goes with athletes, movie stars and politicians.

[manaboutown]

Well, Prince lived long enough to join the AARP and get senior discounts at some restaurants. I wonder if he was being given a senior discount after he turned 55 on the drugs he was buying. He should at least have received a volume discount.

[graciegirl]

It appears that Prince did indeed have a drug problem.

[goodtimesintv]

Still haven't seen justification for taxpayer money to be spent on costly lighting shows on city halls, state capitols, and interstate bridges for him.......

.....Especially when the honoree's religion forbids pledging allegiance to our nation and service in our military.

I don't think any pubic buildings have had light shows for the brave wounded warriors who've died and have gone and stood in the gap, for us.

[Barefoot]

1. Prince spoke out frequently against any drug abuse. He must have been in great pain to use Percocet if his private life was even close to his public image, especially given his religion.
2. Autopsy results are not in, so any cause of death is nothing but pure speculation.
3. I doubt Prince was gender conflicted in the least. He was known to have dated and bedded many beautiful women in his younger days. Don't confuse outlandish costumes by entertainers with their personal activities.

Rail as much as you like about the hero-worship and public expense of purple lights, that's reasonable. But get your facts straight About someone before you start calling them names. Great post. :ho:

I think this is before your parents.....
Plato complained
about the youth of the day, also. "What is happening to our young
people? They disrespect their elders, they disobey their parents. They
ignore the law. They riot in the streets inflamed with wild notions.
Their morals are decaying. What is to become of them?" I think this is
a direct quote, but can't find the reference at the moment.

Here's another one:
"I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on
frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless beyond
words... When I was young, we were taught to be discreet and
respectful of elders, but the present youth are exceedingly wise
[disrespectful] and impatient of restraint" (Hesiod, 8th century BC). Thank you for posting. I was searching for these quotes when posters were complaining about today's young people.

[Rapscallion St Croix]

I think Prince was despondent over not getting the L'il Sweet gig with Dr Pepper.

[graciegirl]

Help came too late after someone reached out to a dependency specialist who sent his son on the red eye from California and who arrived that morning to find him unresponsive and was the one who called 911.

I am sure you all know this after having seen the news today. I am afraid his dependency was far more serious than treatment for pain in his hip.

[Nucky]

I help people who have various addiction's. Unless you have first hand knowledge with a family member or friend or yourself then what I can tell you is this pain medication thing is the Devil. Before you realize it it has a hold of you. The things these people go thru and the things they put the people around them through is a very rough thing to see and hear about. This poor young man even though he had unlimited funds and such talent was another victim and it is a shame that he is ever judged. If his passing help's another person to find recovery then that's the best that we can hope for. The addict doesn't really want to continue a life of pain and shame but sometimes doesn't reach out for help until it's too late. Their life is out of control and they can't help themselves. What a wasted life.

[buckscounty]

Who cares, we lose heroes everyday and 22m veterans commit suicide, i care about them not Prince.

[goodtimesintv]

I help people who have various addiction's. Unless you have first hand knowledge with a family member or friend or yourself then what I can tell you is this pain medication thing is the Devil. Before you realize it it has a hold of you. The things these people go thru and the things they put the people around them through is a very rough thing to see and hear about. This poor young man even though he had unlimited funds and such talent was another victim and it is a shame that he is ever judged. If his passing help's another person to find recovery then that's the best that we can hope for. The addict doesn't really want to continue a life of pain and shame but sometimes doesn't reach out for help until it's too late. Their life is out of control and they can't help themselves. What a wasted life.

I agree with everything you said.

Sadly, too many people now are too afraid to "judge" behavior like this, by saying, for example, that this is "a wasted life". You have identified what this situation is--a wasted life--but many re-define identification of a problem to mean it's "judging" the person.

As for your statement about "if his passing helps another person...", you're absolutely right. The problem is that as we've seen here, people will not even identify it as a drug problem/addiction for fear of being "judged"....as being "judgmental".

Nobody is going to learn from his grave mistakes when people continue to make excuses for it and won't even call the behavior what it is.

[Nucky]

Who cares, we lose heroes everyday and 22m veterans commit suicide, i care about them not Prince.

There is not a comparison in my eyes. The pain that the people have who come back from the service are experiencing is beyond what my unprofessional mind can comprehend. I am aware of their problems somewhat but just listen when it is a vet that we are helping. We always get them professional help or another service member to help them out. Their pain is beyond our understanding, that is my point. They keep us safe and sacrifice all, there is nothing too good for them, they should get all the help they need. Any country that doesn't respect their service members is in trouble. Your point is well taken no doubt. I care about both.

[goodtimesintv]

There is not a comparison in my eyes. The pain that the people have who come back from the service are experiencing is beyond what my unprofessional mind can comprehend. I am aware of their problems somewhat but just listen when it is a vet that we are helping. We always get them professional help or another service member to help them out. Their pain is beyond our understanding, that is my point. They keep us safe and sacrifice all, there is nothing too good for them, they should get all the help they need. Any country that doesn't respect their service members is in trouble. Your point is well taken no doubt. I care about both.

Amen!