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Those, either party, who choose to vote independent or stay home are accomplishing nothing. And if the worst of the two evils happens to get elected they will be the major factor why that happened.

24% Opt Out of a Clinton-Trump Race - Rasmussen Reports™ (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/24_opt_out_of_a_clinton_trump_race)

Stand and be counted. Suck it up and vote.

If everybody does the right thing they will not be voting for a feloneous criminal.

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Actually, those who vote to continue the corrupt political system by voting for EITHER the D or R candidate is accomplishing nothing.

Yes, suck it up and vote for whom YOU WANT TO WIN, not the lesser of two evils which is still evil. Do you REALLY want either of them? Then vote Libertarian and keep what's left of your freedom and rights.

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Actually, those who vote to continue the corrupt political system by voting for EITHER the D or R candidate is accomplishing nothing.

Yes, suck it up and vote for whom YOU WANT TO WIN, not the lesser of two evils which is still evil. Do you REALLY want either of them? Then vote Libertarian and keep what's left of your freedom and rights.

Well we all know the libertarian candidate is not going to win. All that would accomplish is take away votes and allowing a minority to pick the next president.

The options are not good. However, it is no one's best interest or the interest of the country to vote for a felon, liar anuntrustworthy self centered cheat.
That leaves Trunp. If everybody looked as closely at what Obama really was as they are Trump he would have not won the election.

Trump will do more for the country in one year than Obama has done in almost 8. I know that is easy....anything accomplished beats nothing.

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Well we all know the libertarian candidate is not going to win. All that would accomplish is take away votes and allowing a minority to pick the next president.

The options are not good. However, it is no one's best interest or the interest of the country to vote for a felon, liar anuntrustworthy self centered cheat.
That leaves Trunp. If everybody looked as closely at what Obama really was as they are Trump he would have not won the election.

Trump will do more for the country in one year than Obama has done in almost 8. I know that is easy....anything accomplished beats nothing.

You left out one word in your last paragraph. It should read, "Trump will do more HARM for the country in one year than Obama has done it almost 8 . I know that is easy .... anything accomplished beats nothing."

How will he do harm? This is easy by being himself.

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Well we all know the libertarian candidate is not going to win. All that would accomplish is take away votes and allowing a minority to pick the next president.

The options are not good. However, it is no one's best interest or the interest of the country to vote for a felon, liar anuntrustworthy self centered cheat.
That leaves Trunp. If everybody looked as closely at what Obama really was as they are Trump he would have not won the election.

Trump will do more for the country in one year than Obama has done in almost 8. I know that is easy....anything accomplished beats nothing.

You're not voting for a president, you're voting for a party. The party tells the president what to do not the other way around. Presidents, like CEOs, are paid to be the believable face that lies to you. THAT is what they get the big bucks for. The board tells the CEO what they want, not the other way around. In a few cases the founder of the company is boss.

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You left out one word in your last paragraph. It should read, "Trump will do more HARM for the country in one year than Obama has done it almost 8 . I know that is easy .... anything accomplished beats nothing."

How will he do harm? This is easy by being himself.

And Hillary has a record of leaving her people out to dry and get massacred. Lack of loyalty.
Hillary does not care about national security. She puts classified information on the Internet, including information that could cause the death of our sources.
Hilary cheats on her taxes.
Hillary is a thief. The Clintons committed grand larceny when leaving the White House. Can't be trusted with gov property.
Hillary lied to Benghazi victim's families. She is a disgusting liar.
Hillary lied about being shot at. Pathological liar.
Hillary is having problems with consistent headaches and dizziness. She injured her head and is having side effects. She is not stable enough to be elected.

So, say again why anyone should consider voting for her? What has she promised to do that hasn't already been taken care of? Other than make whites respect blacks?

[Guest]

Actually, those who vote to continue the corrupt political system by voting for EITHER the D or R candidate is accomplishing nothing.

Yes, suck it up and vote for whom YOU WANT TO WIN, not the lesser of two evils which is still evil. Do you REALLY want either of them? Then vote Libertarian and keep what's left of your freedom and rights.

Keep beating your head against the brick wall, expecting to break through. I'll go around the wall and get to my objective.

I am not interested in any libertarian, and consider them the same as a liberal, only on the hippy side instead of the socialist side.

YES, I will vote straight party (no pun intended) and will maintain contact with them, just as I have always done with my state senators, etc.

I will vote Republican, regardless of which of the candidates wins the nomination. Who knows, maybe they will chose a good VP. One does not have to worry about the length of the straw when the short straw has already been chosen 8 years ago. Choosing Hillary is keeping the short straw the same. Choosing any Republican is going to be a longer straw and a step in the RIGHT direction.

But a libertarian? That's almost as bad as a Democrat.

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Take a look at this:
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It's 24 years old but the conversation sounds familiar. I'm sure that most here know more about history and politics then I do. So I'm interested in what you here in the show and how it has evolved into what we have now. You can make comments how everything is planned, rehearsed, who has a wife you hate, who got a blow job, whatever; but it's the content that interests me.

[Guest]

Take a look at this:
v=5xDrEzZ02VM
It's 24 years old but the conversation sounds familiar. I'm sure that most here know more about history and politics then I do. So I'm interested in what you here in the show and how it has evolved into what we have now. You can make comments how everything is planned, rehearsed, who has a wife you hate, who got a blow job, whatever; but it's the content that interests me.

WHy would anyone be interested in two scumbag has-beens? The only reason anyone would bother to even look at them is if they were contestants on Dancing with the has-beens. Then, my wife would watch them. But, I am not interested. Just saying.

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WHy would anyone be interested in two scumbag has-beens? The only reason anyone would bother to even look at them is if they were contestants on Dancing with the has-beens. Then, my wife would watch them. But, I am not interested. Just saying.It's a political thread. That includes history. You don't need to be a gangster to enjoy reading about the Mafia or a Nazi to understand the rise and fall of the third Reich.

[Guest]

It's a political thread. That includes history. You don't need to be a gangster to enjoy reading about the Mafia or a Nazi to understand the rise and fall of the third Reich.

It depends...are you reading the "official" version or what really happened?

[Guest]

It depends...are you reading the "official" version or what really happened?If I was suspicious about everything I would never leave the house. Maybe the doctor is lying? How do I know if someone spit in the chuck I just bought? Maybe the barber purposely contaminated the scissors?
I can;t live like that.

[Guest]

If I was suspicious about everything I would never leave the house. Maybe the doctor is lying? How do I know if someone spit in the chuck I just bought? Maybe the barber purposely contaminated the scissors?
I can;t live like that.

Nevertheless...it does happen.

Doctors make money when you keep coming back, not by curing you.

Servers do "contaminate" food, or use it anyway if it falls.

Doctors, a Dentist, nurses, waiters, cooks, pretty much every profession, has tainted their product and given it to an unwitting patient/customer.

Be nice to people...it pays.

Don't be paranoid but be aware.

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If I was suspicious about everything I would never leave the house. Maybe the doctor is lying? How do I know if someone spit in the chuck I just bought? Maybe the barber purposely contaminated the scissors?
I can;t live like that.

I won't eat at fast food any more because the people working there are so nasty. Last thing I want is THEM making my food. It's funny how we treat those who do such a vital task and can so easily "get us back". Pay them min wage and treat them like ****.

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And Hillary has a record of leaving her people out to dry and get massacred. Lack of loyalty.
Hillary does not care about national security. She puts classified information on the Internet, including information that could cause the death of our sources.
Hilary cheats on her taxes.
Hillary is a thief. The Clintons committed grand larceny when leaving the White House. Can't be trusted with gov property.
Hillary lied to Benghazi victim's families. She is a disgusting liar.
Hillary lied about being shot at. Pathological liar.
Hillary is having problems with consistent headaches and dizziness. She injured her head and is having side effects. She is not stable enough to be elected.

So, say again why anyone should consider voting for her? What has she promised to do that hasn't already been taken care of? Other than make whites respect blacks?

I didn't say anyone should vote for Hillary. I am not, but I am not voting for Trump either. You can say that my vote is being wasted. If one of these two is elected, then the next four years will be wasted. Trump will cry like a baby saying getting nothing done wasn't his fault. He will blame the sun, moon, and the stars before taking any responsibility for anything at all. Trump is no damn good. Hillary is just play the role of a female victim.

I am tying to keep an open mind on Benghazi. The reason being the statement by McCarthy(?), who said that the hearing were done to get Hillary's numbers down, and it worked. I have a feeling that she is taking the heat off the CIA outpost that was there. My gut feeling is the CIA let the ambassador out to dry. I didn't see the movie, but wasn't there something to that effect in the movie?

We will see sometime in May, whether charges will be brought against her. In either case, one party is going to be crying foul. That is the nature of the beasts. If charges are brought against her, a white knight will appear on the Democratic side. Sanders isn't going to be the Democratic nominee.

Hillary may not be healthy enough to serve the long hours as president, but Bill might be. It is a nice way to get around the two term maximum. Isn't it!

The nomination process is painfully long. I can't see why any sane person would go down that path. We did this to ourselves. We should all feel so proud.

[Guest]

And Hillary has a record of leaving her people out to dry and get massacred. Lack of loyalty.
Hillary does not care about national security. She puts classified information on the Internet, including information that could cause the death of our sources.
Hilary cheats on her taxes.
Hillary is a thief. The Clintons committed grand larceny when leaving the White House. Can't be trusted with gov property.
Hillary lied to Benghazi victim's families. She is a disgusting liar.
Hillary lied about being shot at. Pathological liar.
Hillary is having problems with consistent headaches and dizziness. She injured her head and is having side effects. She is not stable enough to be elected.

So, say again why anyone should consider voting for her? What has she promised to do that hasn't already been taken care of? Other than make whites respect blacks?

Just more conservative bulls**t. Why are you upset that Hillary "lied" about Benghazi and not upset with GW Bush who lied to the American public at large and to the families of our armed forces families including mine?

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Just more conservative bulls**t. Why are you upset that Hillary "lied" about Benghazi and not upset with GW Bush who lied to the American public at large and to the families of our armed forces families including mine?

Not sure if lied directly to the people is all that clear in either of these situations if you dig into the historical record of both and try to see things from the point-of-view of the people in these situations.

The most honest politician running is Bernie Sanders but he will not get the nomination.

Honesty and lawyers/politicians though do not go all that well together.

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Not sure if lied directly to the people is all that clear in either of these situations if you dig into the historical record of both and try to see things from the point-of-view of the people in these situations.

The most honest politician running is Bernie Sanders but he will not get the nomination.

Honesty and lawyers/politicians though do not go all that well together.

They ALL lied...and lie.

And the Libertarian but you won't vote for him either...because it's "wasting" your vote to vote for the guy you actually WANT to win.

Honesty and psychopaths doesn't go hand and hand.

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They ALL lied...and lie.

And the Libertarian but you won't vote for him either...because it's "wasting" your vote to vote for the guy you actually WANT to win.

Honesty and psychopaths doesn't go hand and hand.

It seems that you are the only one on here that would vote libertarian, so your remark that it would be wasting my vote to vote for the one I actually want to win is wrong. If I vote for the one that YOU want to win, would make your comment correct. It would be a waste of my vote.

Be careful and stay in your bunker counting your ammo. They are all out there trying to get you. Liars and food handlers and the whole government is out to get you. So, don't watch TV and don't eat out and you might live a bit longer. After all, when you are afraid of what waits for you on the other side, you want to live as long as possible. And don't forget, stock up on your ammo and keep you guns clean.