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........ that Trump would defeat a field of 16 others and secure the Nomination before Hillary who had only 1 old independent to take down .

However I realize that the many Hillary experts on this site will insist that she will be Coronated come January next . :loco:

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........ that Trump would defeat a field of 16 others and secure the Nomination before Hillary who had only 1 old independent to take down .

However I realize that the many Hillary experts on this site will insist that she will be Coronated come January next . :loco:

She will if Trump isn't working for the R party. You think they'll elect him if he's not?

Nothing matters but the Jan. electors voting. They'll vote for Hillary before Trump if he's not playing ball. The founders added that to ensure only "one of their guys" ever got elected. Trump could get 99% of the popular vote and still not get elected if the electors refuse to vote for him.

They did it to keep the people from electing a candidate that wasn't part of the system. There was no way for the people to know back then what was going on. No 24 hr a day voting coverage. It'll be tough to cover over the disregard to the people wishes if Trump is for real and gets the popular vote.

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........ that Trump would defeat a field of 16 others and secure the Nomination before Hillary who had only 1 old independent to take down .

However I realize that the many Hillary experts on this site will insist that she will be Coronated come January next . :loco:Trump, who never even won a student council position is the best the Republican Party can put forward.
How many times have we been fooled by the others in their party they favored? How many lives were lost? How many lives were ruined? What are we leaving our grandchildren? Where did all those Christians and their values go?

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Neither of the two political parties put forward a candidate that was of presidential timber. Worse yet voters left standing the most problematic four .

How can anyone in good conscience vote for a communist whose policies would place us into bankruptcy and cause us to join forces with other communist nations.

How could anyone in good conscience vote for a candidate who at minimum never accomplished much and at worse lied, concealed and demonstrated manifest misjudgment in substituting a video as to blame for Benghazi when it was her personal miscalculations, used manifest misjudgment to use a personal e-mail server placing America's most important secrets at risk to hide her malfeasance using Clinton charitable Foundation and hiding her faux pas as Secretary of State. If either of the two above are elected expect more of the Obama same

Trump never really believed he would get this far and he has been winging it all along the way. Stoking populist bravado is a dangerous and foolish game, one upon which he can never deliver
We lived with narcissist for 8 years and if Trump is elected we will live with another. I CRINGED every time Obama spoke and I CRINGE every time Trump speaks.

Cruz is a demigod and in my mind his nationality should be questioned for the sake of this nation as to what really constitutes a natural born citizen. the speaking CRINGE factor also applies to Cruz.

My Hail Mary is that a nomination is placed on the floor of the Republican convention in July and I am praying further that the candidate is one with military experience because this world is about to explode.

Personal Best Regards:

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I object to the notion that some would consider Trump as negatively as they do and do not say one word against Clinton who is substantially a worse candidate, no experience worthy of note, a felon, self centered, untrustworthy, chameleon, phony, crony queen of the establishment, run down hagard old maid!

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How can anyone in good conscience vote for a communist whose policies would place us into bankruptcy and cause us to join forces with other communist nations.

Personal Best Regards:
You will not get very many candidates with with military experience. The reason we went to Viet Nam and the Gulf was based on a lie. So now the ones that figured it out way back when avoided the draft and serving are now running.

I, in good conscience want an FDR to come around. We got Sanders. I say take from the very, very rich [between the Kochs and the Waltons that's the wealth of half our population] and make a New "NEW DEal": to get people work and send them to school. When FDR was in office the very, very wealthy were not nearly as rich compared to half the population. To say he is communist is misleading and you know it. You re smarter then that. We are all a bad diagnoses away from poverty. Don't act so rich and mighty.

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You will not get very many candidates with with military experience. The reason we went to Viet Nam and the Gulf was based on a lie. So now the ones that figured it out way back when avoided the draft and serving are now running.

I, in good conscience want an FDR to come around. We got Sanders. I say take from the very, very rich [between the Kochs and the Waltons that's the wealth of half our population] and make a New "NEW DEal": to get people work and send them to school. When FDR was in office the very, very wealthy were not nearly as rich compared to half the population. To say he is communist is misleading and you know it. You re smarter then that. We are all a bad diagnoses away from poverty. Don't act so rich and mighty.

Liberals are always wanting to take from someone. How about pulling your own weight for a change?

I think that you should learn to accept your place in life, because your pipe dream of a 'New Deal' will NEVER happen in your lifetime. You also want to provide a free college education, why when the dropout rate for some high school students approaches 50% in some areas...and it's already free!

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Isn't it funny that Hillary is almost being beat by Bernie, a perverted socialist? And then, on top of that a portion of Dems are voting for Trump. And Hillary is so bad that it is likely that she is going to be the cause of the Dems losing a couple of blue states to the Republicans in the general. After all, she is promising put thousands of coal miners and mines out of business. I am sure that will endear her to many in the coal states. My gosh, couldn't the Dems come up with anyone better..........we know they couldn't have found anyone worst.

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Isn't it funny that Hillary is almost being beat by Bernie, a perverted socialist? And then, on top of that a portion of Dems are voting for Trump. And Hillary is so bad that it is likely that she is going to be the cause of the Dems losing a couple of blue states to the Republicans in the general. After all, she is promising put thousands of coal miners and mines out of business. I am sure that will endear her to many in the coal states. My gosh, couldn't the Dems come up with anyone better..........we know they couldn't have found anyone worst.

As she continues to lose ground in the general election guessings/polls eventually she will be noted as not electable against Trump.

I cannot see even the democrats to remain committed to a loser. I suspect, as in 2008 Clinton will for some obscure, or maybe no so obscure reason, will defer to another in the party.

That scenario is becoming the more likely outcome than her becoming the nominee.

Funny how Trump has been able to make his way passt and to the top of the list of 17 contenders. And Clinton cannot make it past one!!!!!!!!!!

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You will not get very many candidates with with military experience. The reason we went to Viet Nam and the Gulf was based on a lie. So now the ones that figured it out way back when avoided the draft and serving are now running.

I, in good conscience want an FDR to come around. We got Sanders. I say take from the very, very rich [between the Kochs and the Waltons that's the wealth of half our population] and make a New "NEW DEal": to get people work and send them to school. When FDR was in office the very, very wealthy were not nearly as rich compared to half the population. To say he is communist is misleading and you know it. You re smarter then that. We are all a bad diagnoses away from poverty. Don't act so rich and mighty.

At least you admit to being a lazy socialist, in need of a strong nanny gov.

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I object to the notion that some would consider Trump as negatively as they do and do not say one word against Clinton who is substantially a worse candidate, no experience worthy of note, a felon, self centered, untrustworthy, chameleon, phony, crony queen of the establishment, run down hagard old maid!

Very well stated ! :wave:

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You will not get very many candidates with with military experience. The reason we went to Viet Nam and the Gulf was based on a lie. So now the ones that figured it out way back when avoided the draft and serving are now running.

I, in good conscience want an FDR to come around. We got Sanders. I say take from the very, very rich [between the Kochs and the Waltons that's the wealth of half our population] and make a New "NEW DEal": to get people work and send them to school. When FDR was in office the very, very wealthy were not nearly as rich compared to half the population. To say he is communist is misleading and you know it. You re smarter then that. We are all a bad diagnoses away from poverty. Don't act so rich and mighty.

You have NO IDEA how much the government spends. It's completely out of control.

US Budget in 1 Day: $10,460,188,800.
For the year 2011:
- The US Government spends $10,460,188,800 (~$10 billion, 460 million) per day (both portions)
- Of the total money shown above, the US Government borrows $4,506,849,315 (4 billion, 506 million) each day.Jan 26, 2012

That was when I Googled "how much does the government spend a day". They spend $10 billion a DAY! Bill Gates TOTAL worth is $75 billion. If you took everything from him, it would run the government for 7.5 days. Warren Buffet, 6 days. The Waltons? A mere 3.5 days a piece.

The government borrows HALF of what it spends! How long would we last if we were borrowing half of our daily expenses? We're being bled dry. The government is THE market in way too many areas.

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You have NO IDEA how much the government spends. It's completely out of control.

US Budget in 1 Day: $10,460,188,800.
For the year 2011:
- The US Government spends $10,460,188,800 (~$10 billion, 460 million) per day (both portions)
- Of the total money shown above, the US Government borrows $4,506,849,315 (4 billion, 506 million) each day.Jan 26, 2012

That was when I Googled "how much does the government spend a day". They spend $10 billion a DAY! Bill Gates TOTAL worth is $75 billion. If you took everything from him, it would run the government for 7.5 days. Warren Buffet, 6 days. The Waltons? A mere 3.5 days a piece.

The government borrows HALF of what it spends! How long would we last if we were borrowing half of our daily expenses? We're being bled dry. The government is THE market in way too many areas.

Liberals don't care how much money the government spends. Whatever the amount, it is not enough as far as they are concerned.

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I, in good conscience want an FDR to come around. We got Sanders. I say take from the very, very rich [between the Kochs and the Waltons that's the wealth of half our population] and make a New "NEW DEal": to get people work and send them to school. When FDR was in office the very, very wealthy were not nearly as rich compared to half the population. To say he is communist is misleading and you know it. You re smarter then that. We are all a bad diagnoses away from poverty. Don't act so rich and mighty.

What is your problem, drugs, booze, gambling, infidelity? It seems you have some weakness that prevents you from providing for yourself. Possibly your parents were weflare recipients and you are just following what you were raised with? I would urge you to find some pride and quit acting so poor and weak!

To the others on here: this loser, and the others like him, is what I have been talking about. No pride, no motivation, has developed a sense of entitlement. Willing to bankrupt a country and feels those that have money owe the lazy stupid ass!

STOCK UP ON AMMO!

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What is your problem, drugs, booze, gambling, infidelity? It seems you have some weakness that prevents you from providing for yourself. Possibly your parents were weflare recipients and you are just following what you were raised with? I would urge you to find some pride and quit acting so poor and weak!

To the others on here: this loser, and the others like him, is what I have been talking about. No pride, no motivation, has developed a sense of entitlement. Willing to bankrupt a country and feels those that have money owe the lazy stupid ass!

STOCK UP ON AMMO!

Unfortunately, about half of the country feels the same way.

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What is your problem, drugs, booze, gambling, infidelity? It seems you have some weakness that prevents you from providing for yourself. Possibly your parents were weflare recipients and you are just following what you were raised with? I would urge you to find some pride and quit acting so poor and weak!

To the others on here: this loser, and the others like him, is what I have been talking about. No pride, no motivation, has developed a sense of entitlement. Willing to bankrupt a country and feels those that have money owe the lazy stupid ass!

STOCK UP ON AMMO!


Keep one last bullet in the chamber to put between your eyes on November 9, 2016.

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Neither of the two political parties put forward a candidate that was of presidential timber. Worse yet voters left standing the most problematic four .

How can anyone in good conscience vote for a communist whose policies would place us into bankruptcy and cause us to join forces with other communist nations.

How could anyone in good conscience vote for a candidate who at minimum never accomplished much and at worse lied, concealed and demonstrated manifest misjudgment in substituting a video as to blame for Benghazi when it was her personal miscalculations, used manifest misjudgment to use a personal e-mail server placing America's most important secrets at risk to hide her malfeasance using Clinton charitable Foundation and hiding her faux pas as Secretary of State. If either of the two above are elected expect more of the Obama same

Trump never really believed he would get this far and he has been winging it all along the way. Stoking populist bravado is a dangerous and foolish game, one upon which he can never deliver
We lived with narcissist for 8 years and if Trump is elected we will live with another. I CRINGED every time Obama spoke and I CRINGE every time Trump speaks.

Cruz is a demigod and in my mind his nationality should be questioned for the sake of this nation as to what really constitutes a natural born citizen. the speaking CRINGE factor also applies to Cruz.

My Hail Mary is that a nomination is placed on the floor of the Republican convention in July and I am praying further that the candidate is one with military experience because this world is about to explode.

Personal Best Regards:

You live in Fantasyland.

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Keep one last bullet in the chamber to put between your eyes on November 9, 2016.
I could never be that weak! I will survive no matter what happens on November 9th, 10th, 12th...Even if this country ends - I will survive (well until it is my day to die and I don't get to pick which day that is. Remember the Asiana plane crash where the girl survived the crash only to be run over by the firetruck - it was definitely her day to die!), but how about you and all the free loaders?

STOCK UP ON AMMO!

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Keep one last bullet in the chamber to put between your eyes on November 9, 2016.

That would be a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

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I could never be that weak! I will survive no matter what happens on November 9th, 10th, 12th...Even if this country ends - I will survive (well until it is my day to die and I don't get to pick which day that is. Remember the Asiana plane crash where the girl survived the crash only to be run over by the firetruck - it was definitely her day to die!), but how about you and all the free loaders?

STOCK UP ON AMMO!Whenever I read your posts I'm reminded of those old zombie movies where the guy holds out with his gun shooting them one at a time until they catch him. Is this also how you see life? I'm not judging.

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You live in Fantasyland.

No, you trannies live in "fantasy land."

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Whenever I read your posts I'm reminded of those old zombie movies where the guy holds out with his gun shooting them one at a time until they catch him. Is this also how you see life? I'm not judging.

In those movies, it is usually the liberal that tries to negotiate with the zombies that get eaten first......:icon_hungry:

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Whenever I read your posts I'm reminded of those old zombie movies where the guy holds out with his gun shooting them one at a time until they catch him. Is this also how you see life? I'm not judging.

Hey, I am glad your not judging...Not sure what zombie movie you were reminded of, but I don't see the present in that way. I just like to be prepared for the future (kind of like the religious guy who goes to church on Sundays and throws $10 in the basket, just in case). I would rather hold out and shoot them one by one till I run out of ammo, than to throw my hands up and end up dead anyways! I end my posts in that matter so I can find where I left off in the discussion.

STOCK UP ON AMMO!

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Hey, I am glad your not judging...Not sure what zombie movie you were reminded of, but I don't see the present in that way. I just like to be prepared for the future (kind of like the religious guy who goes to church on Sundays and throws $10 in the basket, just in case). I would rather hold out and shoot them one by one till I run out of ammo, than to throw my hands up and end up dead anyways! I end my posts in that matter so I can find where I left off in the discussion.

STOCK UP ON AMMO!

Different strokes and all that. Think I'll do that too.

STOCK UP ON AMMO!

I like that idea...........:thumbup:

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I, in good conscience want an FDR to come around. ... and make a New "NEW DEal"(sic): to get people work and send them to school. When FDR was in office the very, very wealthy were not nearly as rich compared to half the population. ....

Interesting you brought up FDR. It got me thinking of today's pansy a$$ liberals and especially the snowflake liberal college students and how they would fare under an FDR. You know, the ones that scream bloody murder if they get served a latte that is 10 degrees too cool, that need "trigger warning" least they hear something that would upset them or "safe spaces" to go to for comfort from the rigors of college life.

Could you imagine the reaction these liberal snowflakes would have upon being told they could only have 3 gallons of gas for a week. Yes 3 gallons was all you got unless you were a politician or other important person. You also couldn't buy anything made of rubber especially tires. Food was also rationed especially meats, dairy and oils. Almost every family had a "victory garden" and I still remember my grandfather working in his well into the 1960's. It's a dirty shame the liberals have ruined the fabric of this country. Maybe someone can make it "great again", but I wonder...sad really.

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Interesting you brought up FDR. It got me thinking of today's pansy a$$ liberals and especially the snowflake liberal college students and how they would fare under an FDR. You know, the ones that scream bloody murder if they get served a latte that is 10 degrees too cool, that need "trigger warning" least they hear something that would upset them or "safe spaces" to go to for comfort from the rigors of college life.

Could you imagine the reaction these liberal snowflakes would have upon being told they could only have 3 gallons of gas for a week. Yes 3 gallons was all you got unless you were a politician or other important person. You also couldn't buy anything made of rubber especially tires. Food was also rationed especially meats, dairy and oils. Almost every family had a "victory garden" and I still remember my grandfather working in his well into the 1960's. It's a dirty shame the liberals have ruined the fabric of this country. Maybe someone can make it "great again", but I wonder...sad really.
]Interesting you brought up FDR. It got me thinking of today's pansy a$$ liberals and especially the snowflake liberal college students and how they would fare under an FDR. You know, the ones that scream bloody murder if they get served a latte that is 10 degrees too cool, that need "trigger warning" least they hear something that would upset them or "safe spaces" to go to for comfort from the rigors of college life.


That's just stupid bull**** that you made up.

Could you imagine the reaction these liberal snowflakes would have upon being told they could only have 3 gallons of gas for a week. Yes 3 gallons was all you got unless you were a politician or other important person.

More stupid bull****. When everyone has the same restraints that's when it it is truly fair. The rich and smart get around any law including the draft when it existed.

You also couldn't buy anything made of rubber especially tires. Food was also rationed especially meats, dairy and oils. Almost every family had a "victory garden" and I still remember my grandfather working in his well into the 1960's. It's a dirty shame the liberals have ruined the fabric of this country. Maybe someone can make it "great again", but I wonder...sad really.

More stupid bull****. What did you do to make America great? Don't tell us about your grandfather.

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]Interesting you brought up FDR. It got me thinking of today's pansy a$$ liberals and especially the snowflake liberal college students and how they would fare under an FDR. You know, the ones that scream bloody murder if they get served a latte that is 10 degrees too cool, that need "trigger warning" least they hear something that would upset them or "safe spaces" to go to for comfort from the rigors of college life.


That's just stupid bull**** that you made up.

Could you imagine the reaction these liberal snowflakes would have upon being told they could only have 3 gallons of gas for a week. Yes 3 gallons was all you got unless you were a politician or other important person.

More stupid bull****. When everyone has the same restraints that's when it it is truly fair. The rich and smart get around any law including the draft when it existed.

You also couldn't buy anything made of rubber especially tires. Food was also rationed especially meats, dairy and oils. Almost every family had a "victory garden" and I still remember my grandfather working in his well into the 1960's. It's a dirty shame the liberals have ruined the fabric of this country. Maybe someone can make it "great again", but I wonder...sad really.

More stupid bull****. What did you do to make America great? Don't tell us about your grandfather.


What do you disagree with in his statement? Or, do you just like to deny the truth? All I hear from you is "BS!" but you don't know S****. FDR was a socialist and the best thing he did for America was to leave D.C. when it was time for him to leave.

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What do you disagree with in his statement? Or, do you just like to deny the truth? All I hear from you is "BS!" but you don't know S****. FDR was a socialist and the best thing he did for America was to leave D.C. when it was time for him to leave.FDR did not leave office. He died in office. Who doesn't know that?

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FDR did not leave office. He died in office. Who doesn't know that?

Well, if he did not leave office, then he must still be there, right?:1rotfl:

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FDR did not leave office. He died in office. Who doesn't know that?

Obviously an ignorant Dumpublican did not know it.

However, that same Dumplublican would bitch loud and clear if his Social Security check began to be reduced or eliminated because of "means testing".

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Obviously an ignorant Dumpublican did not know it.

However, that same Dumplublican would bitch loud and clear if his Social Security check began to be reduced or eliminated because of "means testing".

NAsty mouthed _ _ _ _ !

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Obviously an ignorant Dumpublican did not know it.

However, that same Dumplublican would bitch loud and clear if his Social Security check began to be reduced or eliminated because of "means testing".

And, why would he not have the right to complain? He was forced to pay into the government mandated system wasn't he? Do feel that just because he doesn't "need" social security income, that you and your ilk deserve to share it?

Liberals always like to share in the success of others...a truly pathetic bunch.

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and, why would he not have the right to complain? He was forced to pay into the government mandated system wasn't he? Do feel that just because he doesn't "need" social security income, that you and your ilk deserve to share it?

Liberals always like to share in the success of others...a truly pathetic bunch.

exactly !!!

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FDR did not leave office. He died in office. Who doesn't know that?

Same difference. And Happiness is seeing Obama's rear bumper leaving D.C. whether it's his time or his TIME to leave.

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NAsty mouthed _ _ _ _ !

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And, why would he not have the right to complain? He was forced to pay into the government mandated system wasn't he? Do feel that just because he doesn't "need" social security income, that you and your ilk deserve to share it.

You - "and your ilk"- love to bitch and moan about the big bad government forcing you to pay into SS. You are getting back lots more than you ever paid into it - and your spouses also get SS even if they never worked a job. They also will get the survivors benefits long after your carcasses are in the grave.

In answer to your question, means testing is right. If you do not need it, give it up!

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You - "and your ilk"- love to bitch and moan about the big bad government forcing you to pay into SS. You are getting back lots more than you ever paid into it - and your spouses also get SS even if they never worked a job. They also will get the survivors benefits long after your carcasses are in the grave.

In answer to your question, means testing is right. If you do not need it, give it up!

You made my point! You are just another lazy taker that leeches off of the hard work of others!

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You - "and your ilk"- love to bitch and moan about the big bad government forcing you to pay into SS. You are getting back lots more than you ever paid into it - and your spouses also get SS even if they never worked a job. They also will get the survivors benefits long after your carcasses are in the grave.

In answer to your question, means testing is right. If you do not need it, give it up!

Yours is a false narrative. If the government means tests my income to determine my social security eligibility, and it is determined that I am not eligible to receive said benefits owing to my income, then I would actually receive NOTHING, not the "more than you ever paid into it" that you claim.

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Yours is a false narrative. If the government means tests my income to determine my social security eligibility, and it is determined that I am not eligible to receive said benefits owing to my income, then I would actually receive NOTHING, not the "more than you ever paid into it" that you claim.

Ah, you are wrong again, Dogbreath!

At the current time, there is not means testing for Social Security benefits. At the current time, you will receive more than you paid into it.

At some future time - IF there was means testing - you would be right about not receiving your money back plus more. It would be like any other tax at that time - IF means testing ever comes about.

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You made my point! You are just another lazy taker that leeches off of the hard work of others!

No, I actually donate my entire Social Security benefit plus my VA disability check to my church.

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No, I actually donate my entire Social Security benefit plus my VA disability check to my church.

I'm sure you do.:rolleyes:

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You - "and your ilk"- love to bitch and moan about the big bad government forcing you to pay into SS. You are getting back lots more than you ever paid into it - and your spouses also get SS even if they never worked a job. They also will get the survivors benefits long after your carcasses are in the grave.

In answer to your question, means testing is right. If you do not need it, give it up!

So who is going to determine the limit on income? Are they going to tell us that we make too much so we don't deserve the money that we were forced to contribute? How about if I don't make very much in my retirement? Are they going to give me more? Who determines if one "needs it" or not? If my car breaks down and I can't afford a replacement, and my neighbor has two cars, can I take one of his?

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Ah, you are wrong again, Dogbreath!

At the current time, there is not means testing for Social Security benefits. At the current time, you will receive more than you paid into it.

At some future time - IF there was means testing - you would be right about not receiving your money back plus more. It would be like any other tax at that time - IF means testing ever comes about.

It must be nice to know EXACTLY much I have paid into the social security system and EXACTLY how long I will live, and EXACTLY how much I will receive in social security benefits. Perhaps, you should be a fortune teller - DOGBREATH!

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You - "and your ilk"- love to bitch and moan about the big bad government forcing you to pay into SS. You are getting back lots more than you ever paid into it - and your spouses also get SS even if they never worked a job. They also will get the survivors benefits long after your carcasses are in the grave.

In answer to your question, means testing is right. If you do not need it, give it up!

We should be getting back even more than we do, but the gov borrows it instead of investing it to gain on it. If they would have invested my SS in just about anything, it would increased in value and I would be getting more back. If you don't believe that, then check out something as simple as the Federal Thrift Savings Plan. They won't because congress would lose all control of our money and that would not be good. They would not be able to use that money.

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So who is going to determine the limit on income? Are they going to tell us that we make too much so we don't deserve the money that we were forced to contribute? How about if I don't make very much in my retirement? Are they going to give me more? Who determines if one "needs it" or not? If my car breaks down and I can't afford a replacement, and my neighbor has two cars, can I take one of his?

You could if Bernie gets elected.


I WANT FREE STUFF!

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You could if Bernie gets elected.


I WANT FREE STUFF!

If "The Bern" gets elected it is not just free stuff. He is going to take money from the rich, we are all going to college for free, and we are all going to be rich!

STOCK UP ON AMMO!

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No, I actually donate my entire Social Security benefit plus my VA disability check to my church.

Really? Hope you're not Catholic. Gotta love those priests, begging for money while the Church lavishes in wealth beyond imagination. Can you say hypocrite?

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Really? Hope you're not Catholic. Gotta love those priests, begging for money while the Church lavishes in wealth beyond imagination. Can you say hypocrite?

Yes, I do really donate all my Social Security benefits and my VA disability payments to my church. Needless to say, those are not my only monetary incomes.

No, I am not Catholic. A priest will get a decent salary plus housing benefit, and car benefit in most parishes for a yearly package of around $90,000. They also do get a nice pension and benefits when they retire. The days of taking a vow of poverty are way in the past for ministers or priests.

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Really? Hope you're not Catholic. Gotta love those priests, begging for money while the Church lavishes in wealth beyond imagination. Can you say hypocrite?

And so why do you pick on the Catholic religion?
You must be prejudiced? Uninformed? Don't have any idea what your talking about.
Let's do all three and call you a hybrid!

Just for crap and giggles, where and how do you think all the churches get their money.
You don't know about the mega rich that run and operate the mega churches.

I suspect facts do not matter.

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Wealth envy is very unbecoming. It just shows how lazy some folks are. If they envy those that have more than them, it means they are too lazy to accomplish what those wealthy did to gain that lifestyle. Why do some believe that it is perfectly OK to take from those better than them in order to obtain that same lifestyle? There is so much opportunity in America, and yet there are still those with the Robinhood mentality. Just plain lazy. I could have worked longer before retiring IF I wished to have more, but I decided to retire instead. That was my choice. In America there is no excuse for someone not enjoying a decent lifestyle, WITHOUT having to take from others via a government strong-arm. Socialism is NOT charity. It is the use of the gov to take from the strong to give to the lazy. Charity comes from the heart, not from the government. If you want the wealthy to pay ten percent taxes, then you should make the lower income earners also pay ten percent. Anything else is discrimination. Do not give me this cr@p about Christian charity or being "fair." Fair is when EVERYONE pays the same percentage. If you want to have more, then you earn more. You don't take from someone else. That is just stealing.

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Wealth envy is very unbecoming. It just shows how lazy some folks are. If they envy those that have more than them, it means they are too lazy to accomplish what those wealthy did to gain that lifestyle. Why do some believe that it is perfectly OK to take from those better than them in order to obtain that same lifestyle? There is so much opportunity in America, and yet there are still those with the Robinhood mentality. Just plain lazy. I could have worked longer before retiring IF I wished to have more, but I decided to retire instead. That was my choice. In America there is no excuse for someone not enjoying a decent lifestyle, WITHOUT having to take from others via a government strong-arm. Socialism is NOT charity. It is the use of the gov to take from the strong to give to the lazy. Charity comes from the heart, not from the government. If you want the wealthy to pay ten percent taxes, then you should make the lower income earners also pay ten percent. Anything else is discrimination. Do not give me this cr@p about Christian charity or being "fair." Fair is when EVERYONE pays the same percentage. If you want to have more, then you earn more. You don't take from someone else. That is just stealing.

You couldn't be more wrong (or ignorant).

"Fair" is when the playing field is level from the beginning.

I can assure you that if you had been born black, or even a woman, that you would not have been given the head start in life that us white males were given.

I know that's going to hurt your feelings in thinking you were the only one that was responsible for whatever success you might have had, but it is pure ignorance to think otherwise.

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You couldn't be more wrong (or ignorant).

"Fair" is when the playing field is level from the beginning.

I can assure you that if you had been born black, or even a woman, that you would not have been given the head start in life that us white males were given.

I know that's going to hurt your feelings in thinking you were the only one that was responsible for whatever success you might have had, but it is pure ignorance to think otherwise.

Just garbage from the left. You are very ignorant and must have been protected all your life.

I achieved in spite of Affirmative Action and it's attempt to stop me. Why? Because I did not allow Affirmative Action to kill my motivation. NO ONE BUILT my bridges and no one gave me anything. I did it myself, while I supported my family of wife and four children. Hurt my feelings? Why would anything an idiot says hurt my feelings? After all, I am proud of my accomplishments. Not only did I achieve a decent retirement, but I also put my three of my children through private school and even obtained my own college education in my "spare" time. No one "built" that for me. No one "gave" that to me. On top of that, I also served my country both domestic and abroad. No one did it for me and I got no special discount for being a white male. However, I did see white males passed over for jobs and promotions, given to women and blacks that were less qualified and less experienced. But, unlike you on the left that allow these type of circumstances get you down, I still made it and progressed. Even though it was an uphill battle, I did it and no one gets the credit but me and GOD. The gov did not give me anything except the freedom that I earned.

Only an idiot would suggest that blacks and women do not have a fair chance to prosper in today's America. They have been given an easier road than white males. And even so, I never took time to bit*h about it. I used that factor to work harder and find a way to move forward. I didn't look at others and become jealous. I figured that looking at what others had was a waste of effort.

I was once required to attend diversity training as part of a management course. The instructor was black and he had us all sit in a circle. After a short session, he went around the circle and asked each of us in turn, if we would approve of our sister marrying him, a black man. Of course, he got the requisite PC answers until he got to me. When he asked me, I told him that it would be up to my sister, not me. When he asked if I would approve of the marriage, I replied "NO." He immediately jumped on it with a "ah HAA, you're biased." I replied "No, I would not approve of your marriage to my sister because I feel that you are too old for her." He was hoping for a different answer, of course. This is why, when you on the left accuse us of being racists when we do not agree with Obama's policies, you may very well be totally off base and wrong. It may be just what we said, we don't agree with his policies. You are way too fast at the racist conclusion. Some of us do not take race into consideration, but a person's ability and character.

Even though I do not know you, I am assuming that you are an idiot because of your idiotic response. Feel free to correct me, because it is still a free country. You're welcome.

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And so why do you pick on the Catholic religion?
You must be prejudiced? Uninformed? Don't have any idea what your talking about.
Let's do all three and call you a hybrid!

Just for crap and giggles, where and how do you think all the churches get their money.
You don't know about the mega rich that run and operate the mega churches.

I suspect facts do not matter.

Because they're the oldest, richest, most corrupt sect.

They ALL get their money by conning ignorant parishioners that the lies they're telling are true and asking for a "donation" for your "saving".

ALL religions are BS. Every one of them.

You couldn't be more wrong (or ignorant).

"Fair" is when the playing field is level from the beginning.

I can assure you that if you had been born black, or even a woman, that you would not have been given the head start in life that us white males were given.

I know that's going to hurt your feelings in thinking you were the only one that was responsible for whatever success you might have had, but it is pure ignorance to think otherwise.

Nature gave white males their "head start" with greater intelligence, drive, ambition, ingenuity, and all the other things that make us "better" at some things. Women and blacks are at a natural disadvantage, THAT is why the quotas and affirmative action, without it they WOULDN'T be able to "compete".

"it is pure ignorance to think otherwise"

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Just garbage from the left. You are very ignorant and must have been protected all your life.

I achieved in spite of Affirmative Action and it's attempt to stop me. Why? Because I did not allow Affirmative Action to kill my motivation. NO ONE BUILT my bridges and no one gave me anything. I did it myself, while I supported my family of wife and four children. Hurt my feelings? Why would anything an idiot says hurt my feelings? After all, I am proud of my accomplishments. Not only did I achieve a decent retirement, but I also put my three of my children through private school and even obtained my own college education in my "spare" time. No one "built" that for me. No one "gave" that to me. On top of that, I also served my country both domestic and abroad. No one did it for me and I got no special discount for being a white male. However, I did see white males passed over for jobs and promotions, given to women and blacks that were less qualified and less experienced. But, unlike you on the left that allow these type of circumstances get you down, I still made it and progressed. Even though it was an uphill battle, I did it and no one gets the credit but me and GOD. The gov did not give me anything except the freedom that I earned.

Only an idiot would suggest that blacks and women do not have a fair chance to prosper in today's America. They have been given an easier road than white males. And even so, I never took time to bit*h about it. I used that factor to work harder and find a way to move forward. I didn't look at others and become jealous. I figured that looking at what others had was a waste of effort.

I was once required to attend diversity training as part of a management course. The instructor was black and he had us all sit in a circle. After a short session, he went around the circle and asked each of us in turn, if we would approve of our sister marrying him, a black man. Of course, he got the requisite PC answers until he got to me. When he asked me, I told him that it would be up to my sister, not me. When he asked if I would approve of the marriage, I replied "NO." He immediately jumped on it with a "ah HAA, you're biased." I replied "No, I would not approve of your marriage to my sister because I feel that you are too old for her." He was hoping for a different answer, of course. This is why, when you on the left accuse us of being racists when we do not agree with Obama's policies, you may very well be totally off base and wrong. It may be just what we said, we don't agree with his policies. You are way too fast at the racist conclusion. Some of us do not take race into consideration, but a person's ability and character.

Even though I do not know you, I am assuming that you are an idiot because of your idiotic response. Feel free to correct me, because it is still a free country. You're welcome.

No need to correct you, because your ignorance speaks for itself.

You aren't even smart enough to realize that you had a huge head start, being born a white male and are certainly not smart enough to understand what a huge advantage that was.

I'll bet you even think you somehow 'earned' the right to this huge advantage. So tell us, what great feat(s) did you do to be lucky enough to be born a white male? I'll wait.

I would also bet, that had you been born black (or even a female) and suffered a lifetime of racism, bigotry, sexism and prejudice at the hands of people like yourself that you would now be one of those screaming the loudest.

Since you think those who fall under Affirmative Action have had such a great advantage, I assume you now wish that you had been born a black female?

Go ahead and lie that you would have preferred it, but your posts prove otherwise.

Go ahead and enjoy your privilege, as I do, but don't ever forget that it IS a huge advantage.

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Nature gave white males their "head start" with greater intelligence, drive, ambition, ingenuity, and all the other things that make us "better" at some things. Women and blacks are at a natural disadvantage, THAT is why the quotas and affirmative action, without it they WOULDN'T be able to "compete".

You are a real piece of work. :a20:

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No need to correct you, because your ignorance speaks for itself.

You aren't even smart enough to realize that you had a huge head start, being born a white male and are certainly not smart enough to understand what a huge advantage that was.

I'll bet you even think you somehow 'earned' the right to this huge advantage. So tell us, what great feat(s) did you do to be lucky enough to be born a white male? I'll wait.

I would also bet, that had you been born black (or even a female) and suffered a lifetime of racism, bigotry, sexism and prejudice at the hands of people like yourself that you would now be one of those screaming the loudest.

Since you think those who fall under Affirmative Action have had such a great advantage, I assume you now wish that you had been born a black female?

Go ahead and lie that you would have preferred it, but your posts prove otherwise.

Go ahead and enjoy your privilege, as I do, but don't ever forget that it IS a huge advantage.

Yes, we were "lucky" to not be born a woman or black or a duck or a cricket. That doesn't mean you replace the smart white man with a duck or a cricket or a woman or a black when the important jobs need doing.

Show me the successful black run society, the woman run society...I'll wait.

This country, the world is devolving because the white men who are the creators and builders are being replaced by those who can't.

You are a real piece of work. :a20:

Yes, I am, built better than "you". Carefully crafted over 50,000 years of evolution that "you" didn't get. You sat in Africa in your grass hut, digging for roots and grubs, while "my people" built a world domineering civilization. NOW you want "your share" when you didn't "really" contribute. Digging holes and carrying things doesn't count as "contributing" equally. Anything/anybody can be a work mule. It's the architect, the engineer who REALLY built the world.

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No need to correct you, because your ignorance speaks for itself.

You aren't even smart enough to realize that you had a huge head start, being born a white male and are certainly not smart enough to understand what a huge advantage that was.

I'll bet you even think you somehow 'earned' the right to this huge advantage. So tell us, what great feat(s) did you do to be lucky enough to be born a white male? I'll wait.

I would also bet, that had you been born black (or even a female) and suffered a lifetime of racism, bigotry, sexism and prejudice at the hands of people like yourself that you would now be one of those screaming the loudest.

Since you think those who fall under Affirmative Action have had such a great advantage, I assume you now wish that you had been born a black female?

Go ahead and lie that you would have preferred it, but your posts prove otherwise.

Go ahead and enjoy your privilege, as I do, but don't ever forget that it IS a huge advantage.

You are a privileged weakling. Please don't include me in your grouping and generalization. But, if you think that being born white gave me any advantage, I can do no more about that than I can about changing your ignorance. I can not change being white, but you have the option to choose to be ignorant or not. I guess you made your choice.

Obama sure took advantage of being black. If not for being black, he would not be president. He was a nobody with no resume'.

Did being black keep Dr. Carson from becoming successful?

Did being black keep C. Powell down?

Did being black hinder them in any way? Did my being white give me more advantage than them?

You are just a spoiled and ignorant liberal that has never had to work for anything so now you are bored because you have no cause. Why don't you go sponsor a gay pride parade, or hug a tree?

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Did being black keep Dr. Carson from becoming successful?

Did being black keep C. Powell down?



Both were liars...Carson about all his "successes" and Powell...well, he stood before the UN with his charts and photos...and LIED to the world to get us into a war...I have NO respect for him.

They're Ds and Rs, they ALL lie and steal.

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Both were liars...Carson about all his "successes" and Powell...well, he stood before the UN with his charts and photos...and LIED to the world to get us into a war...I have NO respect for him.

They're Ds and Rs, they ALL lie and steal.

And that surprises you? Who else would want to be president?

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And that surprises you? Who else would want to be president?

The founders wanted a lottery, "president duty"...because the LAST person you want as president...is a person that WANTS to be president!

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The founders wanted a lottery, "president duty"...because the LAST person you want as president...is a person that WANTS to be president!

Right now, the last person I want to be president is Hillary or Bernie. I do not live in La-La land of fantasy where I can go shopping for the perfect robot or clone for the job. Even if I could choose the best person, ME for president, I would still be critical and not satisfied that I had chosen the right guy. I will throw my support behind the GOP candidate of choice, regardless of whether or not I personally like him. When I was hiring employees, I chose the best qualified for the job of the available. The perfect employee was never available. But, someone had to fill the position so I made my choice. That is what I am doing now, making my choice.

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Right now, the last person I want to be president is Hillary or Bernie. I do not live in La-La land of fantasy where I can go shopping for the perfect robot or clone for the job. Even if I could choose the best person, ME for president, I would still be critical and not satisfied that I had chosen the right guy. I will throw my support behind the GOP candidate of choice, regardless of whether or not I personally like him. When I was hiring employees, I chose the best qualified for the job of the available. The perfect employee was never available. But, someone had to fill the position so I made my choice. That is what I am doing now, making my choice.


I will throw my support behind the GOP candidate of choice, regardless of whether or not I personally like him.

That is what I am doing now, making my choice.

The party, your boss, is making your decision.
Did your boss at work tell you who to hire?

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You couldn't be more wrong (or ignorant).

"Fair" is when the playing field is level from the beginning.

I can assure you that if you had been born black, or even a woman, that you would not have been given the head start in life that us white males were given.

I know that's going to hurt your feelings in thinking you were the only one that was responsible for whatever success you might have had, but it is pure ignorance to think otherwise.
'Marxist' Quotes from Hillary Clinton : snopes.com (http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/marxist.asp)

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You sat in Africa in your grass hut, digging for roots and grubs, while "my people" built a world domineering civilization.

Those days of sitting in the grass huts are gone, they have evolved quite a bit since then:
DMX My niggaz - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QK5osNNOSQ)

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Those days of sitting in the grass huts are gone, they have evolved quite a bit since then:
DMX My niggaz - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QK5osNNOSQ)

And, they wonder why they can't find good paying jobs. It must be because they are black, that's it. It's because they are black and the world is racist.

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"My Niggas"

Just cause I love my niggas, (Ruff Ryders)
I shed blood for my niggas. (Ryde or die)
Let a nigga holla, "Where my niggas?" (Get down or lay down)
All I wanna hear is, "Right here my niggas"
(We here nigga)

You won't take this from me baby!
You will not take this from me baby!
Ya know grrrrr

My niggas some niggas that you don't wanna try
My niggas some niggas that's really do or die
My niggas will have you cowards ready to cry
My niggas will fry my niggas will rob
My niggas keep niggas on they ****in' job
My niggas know what it's like when **** gettin' hard
My niggas stay pullin' you other niggas cards
My niggas It's God my niggas we'll shine
My niggas just knew it was a matter of time
My niggas let me know to keep ****in' with the rhymes
My niggas ain't no longer livin' with crime
My niggas is fine my niggas is good
My niggas keep you niggas knocking on wood
My niggas know how to take it back to the hood
My niggas will put you down right where you stood
My niggas they could my niggas they will
My niggas take you straight to the back & get ill
My niggas give it straight to the bank when we kill
My niggas put niggas on ice til they chill
My niggas is still my niggas is dogs my niggas [echoes]


These are the lyrics. The song was released in 1998. What do you want to discuss?

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Those days of sitting in the grass huts are gone, they have evolved quite a bit since then:
DMX My niggaz - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QK5osNNOSQ)

Wow, same as you and I, just different color skin that's all! :shrug:
Really makes it hard to justify all the government benefits...STOCK UP ON AMMO!

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Wow, same as you and I, just different color skin that's all! :shrug:
Really makes it hard to justify all the government benefits...STOCK UP ON AMMO!Those are the lyrics. What do you want to discuss?

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And, they wonder why they can't find good paying jobs.

There is no incentive for them to get a job...EBT card, Obamma phones, HUD housing...all of those things were meant to help, but have actually held them back in life. All they have learned; is how to scam to get more.

STOCK UP ON AMMO!

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Those are the lyrics. What do you want to discuss?
You got something you want to say???

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You got something you want to say???No--I have something to ask. What in the lyrics bothers you? I'll ask a third time. What do you want to discuss?

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No--I have something to ask. What in the lyrics bothers you? I'll ask a third time. What do you want to discuss?
I just read the thread and I don't see anything that suggests anyone has a problem with the lyrics. There was mention of them not being in grass huts digging for roots, inability to get good jobs, and the lack of a reason to get a job. Thanks for asking 3 times though!
Possibly you want to tell us what you like, or don't like, about the lyrics? Please feel free to do so!

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I just read the thread and I don't see anything that suggests anyone has a problem with the lyrics. There was mention of them not being in grass huts digging for roots, inability to get good jobs, and the lack of a reason to get a job. Thanks for asking 3 times though!
Possibly you want to tell us what you like, or don't like, about the lyrics? Please feel free to do so!
Those days of sitting in the grass huts are gone, they have evolved quite a bit since then:
DMX My niggaz - YouTube


I read this all wrong. This was a positive statement about equality. I thought it was another racist post and the song was used to make that point.

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This Clown CruzerRooney just said he may come back in the race. What a dope.

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Trump, who never even won a student council position is the best the Republican Party can put forward.
How many times have we been fooled by the others in their party they favored? How many lives were lost? How many lives were ruined? What are we leaving our grandchildren? Where did all those Christians and their values go?

But a community organizer with no meaningful leadership experience was a great choice....I think millions know different now!

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I object to the notion that some would consider Trump as negatively as they do and do not say one word against Clinton who is substantially a worse candidate, no experience worthy of note, a felon, self centered, untrustworthy, chameleon, phony, crony queen of the establishment, run down hagard old maid!

Your too kind!

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You - "and your ilk"- love to bitch and moan about the big bad government forcing you to pay into SS. You are getting back lots more than you ever paid into it - and your spouses also get SS even if they never worked a job. They also will get the survivors benefits long after your carcasses are in the grave.

In answer to your question, means testing is right. If you do not need it, give it up!

Give it to a loser like you...no way, get a job and earn your own keep and
You will feel much better about yourself.
Plus you won't be looking for others hard earned $$$!

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I read this all wrong. This was a positive statement about equality. I thought it was another racist post and the song was used to make that point.
Not sure if it is racist or not, DMX would have a better understanding of the intent.

The song does seem to portrait a group of people that apparently think little of themselves. Maybe other ethnicity groups refer to themselves as racial slurs too, I am just not aware of it. The Hispanics and Latinos might have a song title "My Spix", The Asian or Pacific Islanders might have a song tiled "My Fish Hedz...Even if they don't, it certainly does not mean they lack equality.

The song does have a catchy beat, I might play it loud in the golf cart. Who would not enjoy singing along to "My Niggaz"!

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Not sure if it is racist or not, DMX would have a better understanding of the intent.

The song does seem to portrait a group of people that apparently think little of themselves. Maybe other ethnicity groups refer to themselves as racial slurs too, I am just not aware of it. The Hispanics and Latinos might have a song title "My Spix", The Asian or Pacific Islanders might have a song tiled "My Fish Hedz...Even if they don't, it certainly does not mean they lack equality.

The song does have a catchy beat, I might play it loud in the golf cart. Who would not enjoy singing along to "My Niggaz"!Do that. You are about 50 years behind the times. Where are you from?

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Do that. You are about 50 years behind the times. Where are you from?

Maybe he be from da 'hood.

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Those days of sitting in the grass huts are gone, they have evolved quite a bit since then:
DMX My niggaz - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QK5osNNOSQ)

You reinforce my point, there's nothing good about them. They haven't evolved at all.

There is no incentive for them to get a job...EBT card, Obamma phones, HUD housing...all of those things were meant to help, but have actually held them back in life. All they have learned; is how to scam to get more.

STOCK UP ON AMMO!

Whitey can't MAKE them work or do anything...that's slavery.

Those days of sitting in the grass huts are gone, they have evolved quite a bit since then:
DMX My niggaz - YouTube


I read this all wrong. This was a positive statement about equality. I thought it was another racist post and the song was used to make that point.

No, it wasn't.

Not sure if it is racist or not, DMX would have a better understanding of the intent.

The song does seem to portrait a group of people that apparently think little of themselves. Maybe other ethnicity groups refer to themselves as racial slurs too, I am just not aware of it. The Hispanics and Latinos might have a song title "My Spix", The Asian or Pacific Islanders might have a song tiled "My Fish Hedz...Even if they don't, it certainly does not mean they lack equality.

The song does have a catchy beat, I might play it loud in the golf cart. Who would not enjoy singing along to "My Niggaz"!

There's nothing TO feel good about.

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You reinforce my point, there's nothing good about them. They haven't evolved at all.



Whitey can't MAKE them work or do anything...that's slavery.



No, it wasn't.



There's nothing TO feel good about.What is your final solution?

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The song does seem to portrait a group of people that apparently think little of themselves. Maybe other ethnicity groups refer to themselves as racial slurs too, I am just not aware of it. The Hispanics and Latinos might have a song title "My Spix", The Asian or Pacific Islanders might have a song tiled "My Fish Hedz...Even if they don't, it certainly does not mean they lack equality.

The song does have a catchy beat, I might play it loud in the golf cart. Who would not enjoy singing along to "My Niggaz"!That's only one of the problems. The phrase Niggaz confusing. It's both a positive name within the community and a negative term for many whites outside of the community. Think of the termed colored. It went from positive to negative.

The only example I can think of is from the Sopranos. Christopher calls himself a skinny guinea [sp] and no one raises an eyebrow.

Outside of that, what lyric do you find that demonstrates a lack of self importance? It all looks like a brotherhood or right of passage to me.

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The phrase Niggaz confusing. It's both a positive name within the community and a negative term for many whites outside of the community. Think of the termed colored. It went from positive to negative. Wonder who made it confusing...Well you might discover it is a negative term in the community, if you are not black and you yell to a black guy "Whaz up MY Niggas?".

The only example I can think of is from the Sopranos. Christopher calls himself a skinny guinea [sp] and no one raises an eyebrow. Possibly no one is as sensitive to racial nicknames as a black guy? What if I said; "Don't call me "white", I am not the color of a crayon, I am Caucasian American", does that come across as overly sensitive?

Outside of that, what lyric do you find that demonstrates a lack of self importance?
MY NIGGAS...MY NIGGAS...MY NIGGAS...If you feel a term is derogatory when it comes from others, don't use it to describe yourself.

It all looks like a brotherhood or right of passage to me. Can't say I understand much of the meaning in some of the lyrics, but "MY NIGGAS will rob...MY NIGGAS give it straight to the bank when we kill" just does not invoke the thoughts of any "right of passage" that I would advise my children to explore.