Anybody Else Like Some Pit Bulls?

[Taltarzac725]

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I have met some sweet pit bull mixes at Doggie Doo Run Run.

How did pit bulls get such a bad rap? | Cesar's Way (https://www.cesarsway.com/about-dogs/pit-bulls/how-did-pit-bulls-get-a-bad-rap)

[graciegirl]

I enjoy being around dogs a lot but I am wary of Pitbulls. It is my belief that they have a genetic personality that is unpredictable and perhaps untrainable in certain instances.

Just as much as I believe that almost all Golden Retrievers have a genetic predisposition to gentleness and Border Collies have a lively intelligence and some little doggies to barkiness.

[justjim]

No thanks----I will pass on a Pitbull.

[LittleDog]

If you want to see a lot of nice pitbulls you should watch Pitbulls and Parolees on TV. They do a wonderful job of rescue. They are located in New Orleans.

John

[graciegirl]

If you want to see a lot of nice pitbulls you should watch Pitbulls and Parolees on TV. They do a wonderful job of rescue. They are located in New Orleans.

John

I am always glad to be proven wrong by any one given a bad rap, but I would still keep them and little kittens with claws away from small children not known to them.

That is MY opinion.

[justjim]

A quick look at Google Stats: 2015 twenty eight Americans were killed by Pitbulls---14 were children. In the last 10 years, a total of 232 Americans were killed by Pitbulls. They are a dangerous dog IMHO.

[Barefoot]

I have met some sweet pit bull mixes at Doggie Doo Run Run.
There are lots of sweet-tempered Pit Bull mixes around.
Sadly, many Pit Bulls have been bred and trained to be mean. Supposedly by drug dealers.
Plus they have very strong jaws, and obviously this creates a problem if they've been raised to attack.
Unfortunately this has given the entire breed a bum rap.
It is illegal to breed Pit Bulls in the Province of Ontario.

[Taltarzac725]

There are lots of sweet-tempered Pit Bull mixes around.
Sadly, many Pit Bulls have been bred and trained to be mean. Supposedly by drug dealers. Plus they have very strong jaws.
Unfortunately this has given the entire breed a bum rap.
It is illegal to breed Pit Bulls in the Province of Ontario.

Adopting a Pit Bull >> PAWS (https://www.paws.org/cats-and-dogs/adopt/pit-bulls/)

I have come across a few Pit Bull Mix owners at Doggie Doo Run Run who have too much confidence in their ability to control their dog. It still depends a lot on the individual pooch.

Outside of the dog park I do tend to be very cautious around any dog that looks like it is part pit bull but I tend to be careful around all unknown dogs. Especially chihuahuas!!! Small teeth, very big attitude.

[redwitch]

Pit bulls can be aggressive, especially when protecting their territory or people. So can goldens, poodles, labs, etc. The American Staffordshire Terrier can be a sweet, loving, protective pet. They have to have a strong handler and one who is willing to train the dog. Personally, I really like pit bulls. I've not found them to be any meaner or more aggressive than any other dog breed that is known for being protective, as long as they are well trained. I trust them far more than a chihuahua, several of which I've seen turn on owners and family members.

[Taltarzac725]

Pit bulls can be aggressive, especially when protecting their territory or people. So can goldens, poodles, labs, etc. The American Staffordshire Terrier can be a sweet, loving, protective pet. They have to have a strong handler and one who is willing to train the dog. Personally, I really like pit bulls. I've not found them to be any meaner or more aggressive than any other dog breed that is known for being protective, as long as they are well trained. I trust them far more than a chihuahua, several of which I've seen turn on owners and family members.

Chihuahuas can be unpredictable especially if they are experiencing pain of some kind. Because they are so small too I think they have to give their families the impression that they are the boss.

Chihuahua mixes can be different because they can be quite a bit larger and not suffer from various breed maladies.

I have actually met more chihuahuas in the Villages that scare me more than most of the pit bull mixes but there have been a few exceptions like Harlow who I believe is a pit bull boxer mix.

[goodtimesintv]

"It is illegal in Miami-Dade County to own or keep American Pit Bull Terriers...."

Pit Bull Law - Miami-Dade County (http://www.miamidade.gov/animals/pitbull-law.asp)

"Florida Dangerous Dog Laws - County by County"

Callahan, Florida Dog Bite Lawyer :: Florida Dangerous Dog Laws - County by County :: Welaka, Florida Dog Bite Attorney (http://www.woodatter.com/florida-dangerous-dog-laws-county-by-county.html)

"Should Florida Ban Pit Bulls?" Bradenton Herald:
Should Florida ban pit bulls? | Bradenton Herald (http://www.bradenton.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article34720983.html)

[Taltarzac725]

http://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/uploaded_files/tinymce/Pit%20Bull%20ID%20Poster.pdf

This is interesting.

[manaboutown]

My daughter has a huge male Doberman that has a wonderful disposition and loves people. One of my cousins has a pit bull on her Maryland Farm where I stayed a few days. The dog was easy going and cuddled up to me once it got to know me but it knew me as a guest. I think how a dog is raised has a lot to do with its disposition but certain breeds are bred to have certain traits...

Chihuahas can be very mean and snappy.

[Barefoot]

http://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/uploaded_files/tinymce/Pit%20Bull%20ID%20Poster.pdf
This is interesting.
Tal, it is an interesting link. I would have guessed eight of the dogs to be pit bull mixes.

[Taltarzac725]

Tal, it is an interesting link. I would have guessed eight of the dogs to be pit bull mixes.

My Mom would never accept a pit bull mix into the family no matter how sweet. Kind of sad. I doubt if she has ever been all that close to one though.

There was a chihuahua that lived across the street from Bob Carroll a KOLO News station anchorman in Reno, Nevada on the street where we lived. I would often walk past the chihuahua in the fenced in front yard and it would rush the fence and act like it wanted to take off whatever piece of me it could get a hold of. Sparks - February 11, 2015 Program: Bob Carroll | Valentine's Day (http://sparksrotary.org/Stories/february-11-2015-program-bob-carroll-valentine-s-day)
Northern Nevada, Reno, Lake Tahoe News | KOLO 8 News Now (http://www.kolotv.com/)

That chihuahua was my only real experience with the breed until adopting Sport a part chihuahua. But when I first heard that the Sumter County Humane Society foster parents were bringing a chihuahua/terrier mix to visit the house and see if it liked us, I was very much tainted by the Reno nasty little chihuahua I grew up near there. Sport like Beau is a wonderful dog. Sport is still with me in my heart.

I have met a number of nasty little chihuahuas here in the Villages however. Many sweet ones though. It seems that many of the dogs up for adoption here in the Villages' area are chihuahua mixes of some kind or pit bull mixes of some manner.

Jade is a very sweet pit bull mix I like at Doggie Doo Run Run but I have met some others at DDRR which I keep my distance from. You just have to watch the dog and the owner for a while and see how each interacts with other dogs and people. I have mentioned my problems with Harlow which looks like a pit bull/boxer mix which does not seem to like men at all. Harlow is getting better but whenever I see Harlow I go somewhere else away from any chance of me getting hurt.

My CA/NV family have pit bull mixes but they stay out west. Kind of far to go or come and if they do the dogs stay out west. They have snakes too which would even make me a little uncomfortable and probably scare the poop out of Beau.

[jblum315]

I have nothing against pit bulls, I just don't think they are very attractive

[Taltarzac725]

I have nothing against pit bulls, I just don't think they are very attractive

If you are looking for a dog though to adopt they are usually many of the options available. That and chihuahua-terrier mixes.

Ocala, Florida - Pet Adoption. The Humane Society of Marion County has dogs, puppies, cats, and kittens to adopt. (http://www.adoptapet.com/adoption_rescue/83673.html)

[graciegirl]

I am very relieved that I have not been accused of dog bigotry.

Look at this discussion, we form opinions about things based on what we know, what we read and our fears.

We are all just people. Most of us with good sense and kind hearts. I prefer people who like dogs and cats, and I like them all generally, if they behave.

But I have opinions about things, based on my experience and watching Wesh2 news every night.

[Taltarzac725]

I am very relieved that I have not been accused of dog bigotry.

Look at this discussion, we form opinions about things based on what we know, what we read and our fears.

We are all just people. Most of us with good sense and kind hearts. I prefer people who like dogs and cats, and I like them all generally, if they behave.

But I have opinions about things, based on my experience and watching Wesh2 news every night.

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It does seem a reasonable general fear. My guard is up until I learn about the dog and how much control its owner has over it.

[goodtimesintv]

So now people who voice their experience-based preference for gentler breeds are stereotyped and branded as dog 'racists' with their 'victims' being innocent pit bulls.

News Flash: Dogs don't suffer emotional degradation from racial minority defamation. They do, however, keenly learn and respond to the handling and training, or abuse and neglect, they are given.

But now we are seeing humans defending them as victims of 'systemic racism' just like they defended the 'innocent' racial minority guy in Ferguson who attacked a convenience store owner to steal, and then got shot for diving in thru the police car window to grab the officer's weapon from him.

The thinking and priorities are appalling.

[redwitch]

So now people who voice their experience-based preference for gentler breeds are stereotyped and branded as dog 'racists' with their 'victims' being innocent pit bulls.

News Flash: Dogs don't suffer emotional degradation from racial minority defamation. They do, however, keenly learn and respond to the handling and training, or abuse and neglect, they are given.

But now we are seeing humans defending them as victims of 'systemic racism' just like they defended the 'innocent' racial minority guy in Ferguson who attacked a convenience store owner to steal, and then got shot for diving in thru the police car window to grab the officer's weapon from him.

The thinking and priorities are appalling.

Where, pray tell, has anyone here been accused of being racist for not liking a particular breed? I used to judge dogs in confirmation, mainly sight hounds, but occasionally fill in for other judges. I had a cocker bite me. I had several chihuahuas snap at me. I had a mastiff slobber all over me. I had a Rottweiler poop on my foot. I had a poodle barf on my clothes. I had an American Staffordshire Terrier try to lick me to death. Happiest dang dog I ever met in the ring.

I made it a rule that the handler had to hold the dog's mouth for certain breeds, including Rotties, pit bulls, chihuahuas, mastiffs, cockers and certain dogs just because. It wasn't prejudice. It was common sense.

Showing a healthy respect for a dog you don't know is wise. Being afraid simply because of the breed of the dog is, in my opinion, sad. Dogs are as loving as they are bred and raised to be.

A true concern is any dog that is genetically inclined to be protective of its pack. They will attack if they think their family is in danger. Another concern are hunting dogs, especially coursers. They will bolt and chase a running child, small dog, rabbit, etc. These two types of dogs need to be carefully trained and handled.

[Taltarzac725]

Pit bulls can be aggressive, especially when protecting their territory or people. So can goldens, poodles, labs, etc. The American Staffordshire Terrier can be a sweet, loving, protective pet. They have to have a strong handler and one who is willing to train the dog. Personally, I really like pit bulls. I've not found them to be any meaner or more aggressive than any other dog breed that is known for being protective, as long as they are well trained. I trust them far more than a chihuahua, several of which I've seen turn on owners and family members.

Thanks again for this reasonable post.

[Barefoot]

Where, pray tell, has anyone here been accused of being racist for not liking a particular breed? I used to judge dogs in confirmation, mainly sight hounds, but occasionally fill in for other judges. I had a cocker bite me. I had several chihuahuas snap at me. I had a mastiff slobber all over me. I had a Rottweiler poop on my foot. I had a poodle barf on my clothes. I had an American Staffordshire Terrier try to lick me to death. Happiest dang dog I ever met in the ring.

I made it a rule that the handler had to hold the dog's mouth for certain breeds, including Rotties, pit bulls, chihuahuas, mastiffs, cockers and certain dogs just because. It wasn't prejudice. It was common sense.

Showing a healthy respect for a dog you don't know is wise. Being afraid simply because of the breed of the dog is, in my opinion, sad. Dogs are as loving as they are bred and raised to be.

A true concern is any dog that is genetically inclined to be protective of its pack. They will attack if they think their family is in danger. Another concern are hunting dogs, especially coursers. They will bolt and chase a running child, small dog, rabbit, etc. These two types of dogs need to be carefully trained and handled.

You are a breath of fresh air with your common-sense posts. :ho:

[Chi-Town]

My first pit bull encounter was watching the Little Rascals with Petie..... Here's his training film:

Petie rare Training film, Little Rascals' Pete the Pup, Our Gang - YouTube (https://youtu.be/V6vwl1amjPk)

[Taltarzac725]

I didn't see your post mentioning 'bigotry' until after I'd posted about 'racism' against dogs, so I wasn't referring to yours.

I was referring to how unusually defensive people are getting about pit bulls.

I never met a dog I did not like unless it had an ignorant, evil or careless owner.

[Taltarzac725]

My first pit bull encounter was watching the Little Rascals with Petie..... Here's his training film:

Petie rare Training film, Little Rascals' Pete the Pup, Our Gang - YouTube (https://youtu.be/V6vwl1amjPk)

Pete the Pup - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_the_Pup)

Now was the ring around the eye real or not????

[graciegirl]

I see a corollary. We all prejudge dogs and people. Even if we try not to. And maybe it is harmless and keeps us safe.

[Taltarzac725]

I see a corollary. We all prejudge dogs and people. Even if we try not to. And maybe it is harmless and keeps us safe.

It seems to be part of our survivor mode more instinct than thought.

The chihuahua across from the Carroll family in Reno, Nevada colored how I re-act to that breed. I had to go past the dog to walk or bike to Earl Wooster High School. I was within two miles or so and just within the border like that I could not take the bus but a neighborhood 1500 feet away or so was far away that its kids got the bus.

There was another Reno neighbor with a German Shepard that was very protective of its family so I always tried to avoid it. But there have been some quite nice German Shepards at Doggie Doo Run Run over the years. Jake, Heidi, Titan, etc.

If I visit Nevada-California again, I will have to see what the pit bulls my nieces have are like. I do hope they look intimidating as Nevada can be a lot rougher than the Villages.

With people I try to judge by the individual rather than what they look like or what they do or did for a living. I remember driving into a bad part of Los Angeles though in 1984 and my first thought was get me outta here God please I will not go seeing where some road goes for the fun of it again.

[Chi-Town]

Pete the Pup - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_the_Pup)

Now was the ring around the eye real or not????

I'm going to guess that the Target pit bull's eye ring is not real.[emoji6]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160512/b537f3b85dc5f8c3f476fab8f9247d78.jpg

[graciegirl]

I'm going to guess that the Target pit bull's eye ring is not real.[emoji6]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160512/b537f3b85dc5f8c3f476fab8f9247d78.jpg

I heard that he is allowed to use either bathroom.

[dbussone]

I heard that he is allowed to use either bathroom.



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[Taltarzac725]

I'm going to guess that the Target pit bull's eye ring is not real.[emoji6]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160512/b537f3b85dc5f8c3f476fab8f9247d78.jpg

The Wikipedia on Petey seems to describe two of these Petie's as having rings around the eye. Not sure though as it is poorly written.

Pete the Pup - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_the_Pup)

This dog with the ring was Pal the Wonder Dog?? Pal the Wonder Dog in "Somewhere In Wrong" (1925) - YouTube (https://youtu.be/3K32CxgQd4s)

[Trish Crocker]

I enjoy being around dogs a lot but I am wary of Pitbulls. It is my belief that they have a genetic personality that is unpredictable and perhaps untrainable in certain instances.

Just as much as I believe that almost all Golden Retrievers have a genetic predisposition to gentleness and Border Collies have a lively intelligence and some little doggies to barkiness.

Gracie, again we are in total agreement. If I say I don't trust pitbulls I am automatically treated as if I hate the breed...What people don't seem to understand is the (as you stated) genetic predispositions in the various breeds, eg. Dachshunds burrow, retrievers retrieve, beagles hunt, greyhounds run fast, etc..etc. If I have a child I would choose a breed that is known to play well with kids. I would not get a Chow, or a little dog that is easily frightened or a Pitbull. I would not take even the slightest chance on a dog breed that is known to attack and not stop until they have killed. I personally think that anyone that takes this chance with their children has serious problems. Why take the chance??????. I don't care if 90 out of a hundred are the best dogs in the whole world, I wouldn't risk my child for that 10%. All they have to do is look at statistics regarding dog bites and attacks. I don't get it.

[Taltarzac725]

Pinellas County, Florida - Animal Services - Pit Bulls (http://www.pinellascounty.org/animalservices/pitbull.htm)

This is a good discussion of pit bulls and whether you should get one.

I have really only got to know one pit bull mix at Doggie Doo Run Run and the owner showers love on Jade and controls her very well. It does depend on how much time and attention you put into the dog.

Our neighbor in Palm Harbor, Florida treated his pit bulls very badly but the animal control people who treated one of their wounds-- after he dragged her/him on the road while trying to exercise it-- said that these two dogs were very friendly even if one was hurt. Northpinellas: 2 pit bulls dragged by car, 1 injured (http://www.sptimes.com/2003/04/23/NorthPinellas/2_pit_bulls_dragged_b.shtml)