New Retail Announced by Developer

[champion6]

At the Meet The Developer meeting tonight, two new retail operations were announced:

1. Talbots will open a store by Dec. 31. The location wasn't mentioned.

2. A Walmart Neighborhood Market will open on 466A across from Colony Plaza. Timing wasn't announced.

[jnieman]

Here's what it looks like:

Walmart Corporate - Photos of Walmart Neighborhood Markets (http://corporate.walmart.com/_news_/media-library/photos/neighborhood-market/)

[Phanatic Luvr]

Wonderful news ... about both!!!!

[patfla06]

NOT happy about Walmart!

[Villager Joyce]

I am delighted. After putting up with the rudeness and attitudes of employees at P at Colony, I will dance all the way to Walmart. Even if they are equally rude, At least I will save money. In your face.

[RickeyD]

I am delighted. After putting up with the rudeness and attitudes of employees at P at Colony, I will dance all the way to Walmart. Even if they are equally rude, At least I will save money. In your face.



The employees in Publix at Traverse Plaza are friendly, helpful and never have an attitude. Why would the Colony location be any different ?
Anyway, glad Walmart is coming. Competition is good, Publix is too expensive.

[photo1902]

I've yet to receive anything but courteous, helpful service from Colony Publix employees. I shop there at least once a week. I also use Winn Dixie at Pinellas, mainly for the seafood since I feel they have a better selection. As far prices, I think Publix and Winn Dixie are both expensive. Let's hope one day Wegmans makes it's way down here.

[dbussone]

At the Meet The Developer meeting tonight, two new retail operations were announced:



1. Talbots will open a store by Dec. 31. The location wasn't mentioned.



2. A Walmart Neighborhood Market will open on 466A across from Colony Plaza. Timing wasn't announced.



I believe Talbots is going into Brownwood.

[Villager Joyce]

Izod, van heusen and warner's are coming to Brownwood.

[karostay]

NOT happy about Walmart.

:agree: Couldn't they attract a store a little more upscale ?

[graciegirl]

:agree: Couldn't they attract a store a little more upscale ?

You don't have to buy clothing and accessories from Walmart. Check their prices on common things like coffee pots and food and annual flowers and office supplies.

Their corporate buyers have enormous buying power to get low prices for the consumer.

Too many people are Walmart snobs, quite possibly because they see a lot of people who don't have a lot of money shopping there. That in itself is a good thing. They do have low prices.

Gracie, always frugal.

That said, I love shopping for food most of the time at Publix...and Winn-Dixie for cookies. Wonderful cookies. The staff of life.

But Walmart has good glazed donuts, and cheap too.

[Taltarzac725]

Four shows and 25 performances will highlight the first season at The Studio at Tierra del Sol, a 99-seat theater which launches in November with “Next to Normal,” a play about mental illness.

This is from the article about the Night with the Developer from the site that must not be named about a new theater explained by Whitney Morse.

Next to Normal (Musical) Plot & Characters | StageAgent (http://stageagent.com/shows/musical/227/next-to-normal)

[manaboutown]

:agree: Couldn't they attract a store a little more upscale ?

Well, if you go to a Walmart take your camera. I love the Walmartians and PeopleofWalmart websites showing photos of Walmart shoppers.

That being said I shop at Walmart myself...

[Bogie Shooter]

:agree: Couldn't they attract a store a little more upscale ?

I don't think it is about "attracting" if a business wants to come, they will come.
BTW what is upscale....to you?

[VILLAGERBB]

:BigApplause:

[NYGUY]

....As far prices, I think Publix and Winn Dixie are both expensive. Let's hope one day Wegmans makes it's way down here.

It would be great to have Wegman's, but low pricing has never been a strategy of theirs.

[cquick]

Walmart Neighborhood stores are really just grocery stores. No automotive, no furniture, no sporting goods, no lawn and garden, no clothing. They are smaller and usually have a nice frontage on them. There are a couple of them in and around Orlando.

[Phanatic Luvr]

It would be great to have Wegman's, but low pricing has never been a strategy of theirs.

Absolutely love Wegmans!!! I would spend my whole day there.

[Phanatic Luvr]

Just to clarify ... they are talking Walmart Supermarket w/Pharmacy ONLY. Not the kind of Walmart on 466 or 441. That is my understanding. These are popular in the St. Pete and surrounding areas.

[billethkid]

Walmart Neighborhood Markets are not full department stores with a grocery section. They are more like or try to be more like a Fresh Market venue.....I know, I know they are not Fresh Market.....

Walmart Neighborhood Market Ready to Open in Greenville (http://corporate.walmart.com/_news_/news-archive/2013/10/16/walmart-neighborhood-market-ready-to-open-in-greenville)

[kstew43]

Walmart Neighborhood stores are really just grocery stores. No automotive, no furniture, no sporting goods, no lawn and garden, no clothing. They are smaller and usually have a nice frontage on them. There are a couple of them in and around Orlando.

:agree: just food..... Publix competition.....?

[graciegirl]

Walmart Neighborhood Markets are not full department stores with a grocery section. They are more like or try to be more like a Fresh Market venue.....I know, I know they are not Fresh Market.....

Walmart Neighborhood Market Ready to Open in Greenville (http://corporate.walmart.com/_news_/news-archive/2013/10/16/walmart-neighborhood-market-ready-to-open-in-greenville)

I learn something new here every day.

[2BNTV]

Reading previous posts about complaints of crowding at the Colony Publix, I would tend to think another supermarket in this area, would give people another choice to shop.

There is a pecking order for being upscale but I find that except for a few items, Walmart is a good place to shop. The prices are definitely lower.

Sale is a word that means, "I am going to rip you off for less than what I normally charge you for an item". IMHO

[DonH57]

I would think any market down around colony would be a welcomed one.

[maddie101]

Talbots is great. Way too many open spaces in brownwood and this is a good start. Not overly excited about Izod and Van Husen, but it will be nice to have them occupy empty spaces. I hope they all do a booming business and more stores will want to follow.

[Chi-Town]

Went to a Walmart Neighborhood Market in Arlington TX recently. Nicely laid out and small enough to zip around. Surprisingly not Walmart like.

[dotti105]

We were loyal Walmart shoppers in Utah. There were Walmart Stores (most were super stores) located about every 3 miles. The stores were clean, well organized and a pleasure in which to shop.

Here, based on the low income of the general area around The Villages, you see that reflected in the stores here. Friends of ours said
"Walmarts in Utah = Bloomgdales; Walmarts in Florida = Prision grounds". Now I certainly wouldn't make that observation, but there is a vast difference in the management of the stores here and in Utah......and not a good difference! You se that reflected in the clientele from outside the bubble.

The Walmart Neighborhood Market is simply a Grocery store/Pharmacy. With the overcrowding at Colony it will be a nice relief to shop across the street from that chaos at Colony parking situation. And Walmart Neighborhood Markets have rock bottom prices compared to Publix.

[2BNTV]

Went to a Walmart Neighborhood Market in Arlington TX recently. Nicely laid out and small enough to zip around. Surprisingly not Walmart like.

I wonder if this is not like the same concept of a Publix mini mart, in Ft. Lauderdale. There is one which has some items slightly down the street from my son's house and a full scale supermarket, a couple of blocks away.

Should be a welcomed addition to TV. :smiley:

[mgcsooner]

Oh the lines for coupon customers!!! They price match everyone's prices too, right at the register.

:cus:

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

[northwoods8683]

This is not a traditional Wal-Mart. It was stated that it was a Neighborhood Market, which is mostly groceries. We had one in West Hartford CT and it was closed recently, but I loved it. Great prices and the people were great.

[chuckinca]

We were loyal Walmart shoppers in Utah.

Here, based on the low income of the general area around The Villages, you see that reflected in the stores here. Friends of ours said "Walmarts in Utah = Bloomgdales; Walmarts in Florida = Prision grounds". Now I certainly wouldn't make that observation, but there is a vast difference in the management of the stores here and in Utah......and not a good difference! You see that reflected in the clientele from outside the bubble.


About 20 year ago we were in a Wally World in Sandy, UT. Our then 12 YO son commented on the way out that he lost us in the store for a while and couldn't find us because unlike stores in California everybody looked the same.

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[Bogie Shooter]

We were loyal Walmart shoppers in Utah. There were Walmart Stores (most were super stores) located about every 3 miles. The stores were clean, well organized and a pleasure in which to shop.

Here, based on the low income of the general area around The Villages, you see that reflected in the stores here. Friends of ours said
"Walmarts in Utah = Bloomgdales; Walmarts in Florida = Prision grounds". Now I certainly wouldn't make that observation, but there is a vast difference in the management of the stores here and in Utah......and not a good difference! You se that reflected in the clientele from outside the bubble.

The Walmart Neighborhood Market is simply a Grocery store/Pharmacy. With the overcrowding at Colony it will be a nice relief to shop across the street from that chaos at Colony parking situation. And Walmart Neighborhood Markets have rock bottom prices compared to Publix.

Are they still your friends?

[graciegirl]

Traditional Walmarts have low prices and every strata of the population likes low prices, or should.

Many of us didn't start out with much but were careful with our money.

Many of us don't have to be as careful with our money as we did when we started out, but we still are.

I like that about this place. I like it a lot. We haven't forgotten how we got here.

[RickeyD]

We were loyal Walmart shoppers in Utah. There were Walmart Stores (most were super stores) located about every 3 miles. The stores were clean, well organized and a pleasure in which to shop.

Here, based on the low income of the general area around The Villages, you see that reflected in the stores here. Friends of ours said
"Walmarts in Utah = Bloomgdales; Walmarts in Florida = Prision grounds". Now I certainly wouldn't make that observation, but there is a vast difference in the management of the stores here and in Utah......and not a good difference! You se that reflected in the clientele from outside the bubble.

The Walmart Neighborhood Market is simply a Grocery store/Pharmacy. With the overcrowding at Colony it will be a nice relief to shop across the street from that chaos at Colony parking situation. And Walmart Neighborhood Markets have rock bottom prices compared to Publix.



Walmarts in NY= Walmart
Bloomingdales in NY= Bloomingdales
Walmarts in FL= Walmart

[linedancingdottie]

i have never, ever had any problem with rudness of employees at the Publix at Colony and I have been living nearby for 6 years.

[goodtimesintv]

:agree: just food..... Publix competition.....?

Yes, competition to Publix and their prices built on their captive market of people who won't shop where their golf cart can't go.

The Walmart Neighborhood Markets are a supermarket with pharmacy, and they look like any other decent supermarket. If you didn't see the brand labels you might think you were in a supermarket in another state that you'd not heard of before.

Competition is good.

[JoMar]

:agree: Couldn't they attract a store a little more upscale ?

Nope, not enough Villagers will pay the prices for upscale.

[zonerboy]

Don't really get where this "mini" Walmart is going. Seems to me all the land across from Colony shopping center is currently occupied, mostly by medical offices.

[JoMar]

Don't really get where this "mini" Walmart is going. Seems to me all the land across from Colony shopping center is currently occupied, mostly by medical offices.

Large block between Walgreens and McDonalds. Also large block behind the Medical Buildings but that could create traffic access issues.

[joldnol]

I am delighted. After putting up with the rudeness and attitudes of employees at P at Colony, I will dance all the way to Walmart. Even if they are equally rude, At least I will save money. In your face.

I rarely go to Publix at Colony because of the crowded aisles and the rudeness of both the employees and customers. I have never in 54 years of being a Floridian ever seen a Publix run like that one.

[joldnol]

Don't really get where this "mini" Walmart is going. Seems to me all the land across from Colony shopping center is currently occupied, mostly by medical offices.

the parsal they are working on behind the med offices could accommodate shopping and villas.

[Yosemite]

Many people have suggested The Villages try for Trader Joe's and other unique retailers. Pretty sad that the best the developer can attract is another Walmart branded store.
I don't see the appeal of shopping in Walmart regardless of prices. Employees can't tell you where anything is and they sure don't care if you find what you're looking for. There are different stores in nice neighborhoods and I think we deserve better. The Villages is not lower class and the newest construction is quite pricey. How do you ask someone to spend over a million dollars on a home and seal the deal by boasting "And, you'll be able to get all your groceries at Walmart Market! "

[billethkid]

Many people have suggested The Villages try for Trader Joe's and other unique retailers. Pretty sad that the best the developer can attract is another Walmart branded store.
I don't see the appeal of shopping in Walmart regardless of prices. Employees can't tell you where anything is and they sure don't care if you find what you're looking for. There are different stores in nice neighborhoods and I think we deserve better. The Villages is not lower class and the newest construction is quite pricey. How do you ask someone to spend over a million dollars on a home and seal the deal by boasting "And, you'll be able to get all your groceries at Walmart Market! "

When can e hear about the other 99.78965412% of home owners in TV?

[patfla06]

Now that I realize Walmart is only the supermarket part I like the idea.
BUT near Colony? Where?

That area with Bob Evans coming in and Walmart will get even crazier!

[goodtimesintv]

Many people have suggested The Villages try for Trader Joe's and other unique retailers. Pretty sad that the best the developer can attract is another Walmart branded store.
I don't see the appeal of shopping in Walmart regardless of prices. Employees can't tell you where anything is and they sure don't care if you find what you're looking for. There are different stores in nice neighborhoods and I think we deserve better. The Villages is not lower class and the newest construction is quite pricey. How do you ask someone to spend over a million dollars on a home and seal the deal by boasting "And, you'll be able to get all your groceries at Walmart Market! "

LOL....Trader Joe's.....and its high-class Two Buck Chuck....

Its frozen "organic" veggies are under recall for listeria along with 41 other "high class" brands for Costco, Trader Joe's and....Walmart, all frozen/packed by the same CRF Frozen Foods operation.

And if somebody's going to "be asked to pay a million dollars for a home", I'm sure they'll have the brains to see the Publix across the street from the new Walmart Market....the Publix opening at Hwy. 44 & Morse in the newest areas....the Publix at Hwy. 44 & Powell (Traverse shopping center by Brownwood).

"Trader Joe's originally recalled a number of organic products, including peas, green beans, broccoli florettes and mixed vegetables on May 3 in connection to a nationwide frozen foods recall announced by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and CRF Frozen Foods.

That recall affected nearly 360 products from 42 brands across all 50 states."
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CRF Frozen Foods LLC expanded the recall, first issued last month, to cover 358 products sold under 42 brands, including products sold at Costco Co., Trader Joe's, Safeway and Walmart under brands including Bybee's, Columbia River, O Organic, Organic By Nature and Wild Oats.

Costco, Trader Joe's, Safeway, Walmart frozen foods recalled for listeria risk - The Denver Post (http://www.denverpost.com/business/ci_29850464/costco-trader-joes-safeway-walmart-frozen-foods-recalled)

[kcrazorbackfan]

:agree: Couldn't they attract a store a little more upscale ?

More upscale means more expensive; who would shop there? Our groups of privileged/entitled?

[Mleeja]

:agree: Couldn't they attract a store a little more upscale ?

I believe this Wal-Mart is just a grocery store. What more "upscale" you looking for?

[chuckinca]

Another Fresh Market type store would be a better fit with the neighborhood.

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[goodtimesintv]

Another Fresh Market type store would be a better fit with the neighborhood.

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So true! Love Fresh Market.

The one we have is not too far, though. (It's on highway 466 across from the k-12 charter schools.)

I like it a lot more than Whole Foods. Their meat dept and bakery are superb. Prices are okay, too, for this level of market. They have nice specials, especially on meats.

[Nucky]

When can e hear about the other 99.78965412% of home owners in TV?

About a year ago I was sharing the benefits of having a Wegmans as an alternative to food shop in on TOTV and ripped apart by a women who just posted on this thread. She passed judgement on me...me...the man who has bang for the buck in his DNA. I let it go but never forgot. Having a nice choice of grocery stores is wonderful. Walmart is going to be a diamond for the million dollar buyers of homes. We'll be there saving money alongside of them while they are cutting corners to pay that big nut every month for their million dollar home. More power to ya! I can say safely that I know of a second poster now that we won't be bumping into at Walmart. Be kind to the little people when you make it to the top.:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow:

[The Buckeyes]

Many people have suggested The Villages try for Trader Joe's and other unique retailers. Pretty sad that the best the developer can attract is another Walmart branded store.
I don't see the appeal of shopping in Walmart regardless of prices. Employees can't tell you where anything is and they sure don't care if you find what you're looking for. There are different stores in nice neighborhoods and I think we deserve better. The Villages is not lower class and the newest construction is quite pricey. How do you ask someone to spend over a million dollars on a home and seal the deal by boasting "And, you'll be able to get all your groceries at Walmart Market! "
You are entitled to your opinion...I am entitled to save dollars at Walmart.

[asianthree]

We have a tendency to spend probably 70% of our grocery money at fresh market. On their days they have sales you can't find meat anywhere at that price for the quality that they have. The baked goods are worth the trip. But that's just me I have a tendency if I go to Walmart it's usually not for groceries.

[RickeyD]

Many people have suggested The Villages try for Trader Joe's and other unique retailers. Pretty sad that the best the developer can attract is another Walmart branded store.
I don't see the appeal of shopping in Walmart regardless of prices. Employees can't tell you where anything is and they sure don't care if you find what you're looking for. There are different stores in nice neighborhoods and I think we deserve better. The Villages is not lower class and the newest construction is quite pricey. How do you ask someone to spend over a million dollars on a home and seal the deal by boasting "And, you'll be able to get all your groceries at Walmart Market! "



By "lower class" I'm assuming you mean lower income. Many people in The Villages are in a lower income bracket and do just fine. I know people with high incomes that are very much lower class. If you think living in a million dollar house makes you high class ( your inference ) all I can say is excuuuuse me !
There are also people here, living in premier house's who worry if their money will run out that will appreciate a lower priced food store.
BTW, this new Walmart will serve the immediate area which includes Fruitland Park & The Villages.

[bagboy]

By "lower class" I'm assuming you mean lower income. Many people in The Villages are in a lower income bracket and do just fine. I know people with high incomes that are very much lower class. If you think living in a million dollar house makes you high class ( your inference ) all I can say is excuuuuse me !
There are also people here, living in premier house's who worry if their money will run out that will appreciate a lower priced food store.
BTW, this new Walmart will serve the immediate area which includes Fruitland Park & The Villages.

Like button just pushed.

[zonerboy]

Certainly hope this new mini Walmart is not built on the vacant land between McDonalds and Walgreens opposite Publix. There is definitely enough land there to build a store, but the parking area would be way too small. There are already many complaints about the parking situation at this shopping area.

[graciegirl]

By "lower class" I'm assuming you mean lower income. Many people in The Villages are in a lower income bracket and do just fine. I know people with high incomes that are very much lower class. If you think living in a million dollar house makes you high class ( your inference ) all I can say is excuuuuse me !
There are also people here, living in premier house's who worry if their money will run out that will appreciate a lower priced food store.
BTW, this new Walmart will serve the immediate area which includes Fruitland Park & The Villages.

Rich people spend like they're poor.
Poor people spend like they're rich.

[Bogie Shooter]

Many people have suggested The Villages try for Trader Joe's and other unique retailers. Pretty sad that the best the developer can attract is another Walmart branded store.
I don't see the appeal of shopping in Walmart regardless of prices. Employees can't tell you where anything is and they sure don't care if you find what you're looking for. There are different stores in nice neighborhoods and I think we deserve better. The Villages is not lower class and the newest construction is quite pricey. How do you ask someone to spend over a million dollars on a home and seal the deal by boasting "And, you'll be able to get all your groceries at Walmart Market! "

Could it be that the "unique retailers" don't have the same opinion of TV as you do? I bet "the developer" would be happy to lease to anybody.................

[outlaw]

Rich people spend like they're poor.
Poor people spend like they're rich.

That's usually why they are rich.
Read "The Millionaire Next Door".

[outlaw]

Could it be that the "unique retailers" don't have the same opinion of TV as you do? I bet "the developer" would be happy to lease to anybody.................

It could have something to do with the developer's lease terms and conditions. Just sayin'. And please don't read this as criticizing the developer.

[dewilson58]

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[billethkid]

It could have something to do with the developer's lease terms and conditions. Just sayin'. And please don't read this as criticizing the developer.

TV leases are no different than leases in any other commercial enterprise or mall.

The issue is more likely, like it or not, most successful chain stores have profiles, demographics, population center requirements, access, egress, competition presence, etc.

It is obvious TV does not meet the criteria for select stores/shops.

Many of us have been here since the time when many national stores and restaurants did not exist. For instance there was nothing on Rolling Acres and 441....including no Home depot or the shopping centers both sides of Rolling Acres.
There was nothing past Publix to the railroad tracks on 466.....either side of the road.

One can better appreciate the number of national brands that have chosen to come to TV once a critical mass here met their criteria.

There will be more to come. And there will be no pleasing all as we all come from differing backgrounds and locations.

What some of us thought was great 12 years ago are happy as clams since. The same will repeat for recent newbies....takes a little time.

[Bogie Shooter]

TV leases are no different than leases in any other commercial enterprise or mall.

The issue is more likely, like it or not, most successful chain stores have profiles, demographics, population center requirements, access, egress, competition presence, etc.

It is obvious TV does not meet the criteria for select stores/shops.

Many of us have been here since the time when many national stores and restaurants did not exist. For instance there was nothing on Rolling Acres and 441....including no Home depot or the shopping centers both sides of Rolling Acres.
There was nothing past Publix to the railroad tracks on 466.....either side of the road.

One can better appreciate the number of national brands that have chosen to come to TV once a critical mass here met their criteria.

There will be more to come. And there will be no pleasing all as we all come from differing backgrounds and locations.

What some of us thought was great 12 years ago are happy as clams since. The same will repeat for recent newbies....takes a little time.

You are so right.

[2BNTV]

Latest thing I read awhile back, is that most Americans will buy products made in China over "Made in America" brand type products because they are cheaper and want to save money. I think most people would like to pay less for an item, if it is somewhat equal in quality.

Maybe this thought is for another thread.

I believe I read the developers plans to lease are based on the viability of businesses succeeding in TV. I would tend to think that large retailers can readily afford to do business in TV, rather than some small shop owners. IMHO

I think Traders Joe's would be welcomed in TV, as "Home Goods" was. A store that many people was anxious for them to come to TV. I was informed by a TJ's cashier that many people from TV ask, "when are going to put a store in TV"?

Every time I'm in Home Goods, I tease the sales staff by asking them if it's a slow day. They usually laugh and or roll their eyes.

[Boomer]

That's usually why they are rich.
Read "The Millionaire Next Door".

Outlaw, funny you should mention that book. This thread made me think of it, too. In fact, I just looked it up on Amazon. Oh my! Hard to believe it has been 20 years since its publication.

The author, Thomas Stanley, later wrote The Millionaire Mind and Stop Acting Rich: ... And Start Living Lke A Real Millionaire.

Stanley did research on the psychology of money and the behavior of those who have a couple of bucks. Interesting stuff.

Boomer

[bagboy]

Certainly hope this new mini Walmart is not built on the vacant land between McDonalds and Walgreens opposite Publix. There is definitely enough land there to build a store, but the parking area would be way too small. There are already many complaints about the parking situation at this shopping area.

I agree that parcel seems too small. There is a larger empty tract on the south side of 466A behind the offices there. That parcel could be accessed using the traffic light between the tire store and Shell station. Just have to wait and see.
By the way, I think the parcel between Walgreens and McDonalds is where the new Bob Evans restaurant is going. Not positive about that though.

[charmed59]

Certainly hope this new mini Walmart is not built on the vacant land between McDonalds and Walgreens opposite Publix. There is definitely enough land there to build a store, but the parking area would be way too small. There are already many complaints about the parking situation at this shopping area.

Inadequate parking? I'm shocked Trader Joes didn't pick that location. I think that is part of the Trader Joes brand, a parking lot with not enough parking.

[jalopy54]

NOT happy about Walmart!
why not happy?

[perrjojo]

You don't have to buy clothing and accessories from Walmart. Check their prices on common things like coffee pots and food and annual flowers and office supplies.

Their corporate buyers have enormous buying power to get low prices for the consumer.

Too many people are Walmart snobs, quite possibly because they see a lot of people who don't have a lot of money shopping there. That in itself is a good thing. They do have low prices.

Gracie, always frugal.

That said, I love shopping for food most of the time at Publix...and Winn-Dixie for cookies. Wonderful cookies. The staff of life.

But Walmart has good glazed donuts, and cheap too.

Gracie, I guess I am a Walmart snob. I am a Walmart snob because I dislike the fact that too many Walmart employees have children on government health care programs, recieve food stamps etc. I do not think the tax payer should subsidize Walmart salaries because of their part time pay practices. They use part time hours to avoid benefits for their employees. When we lived in Georgia it was reported that there were 14 times more children of Walmart employees on Medicaid programs than any other employer. Yes, they have cheap prices but we subsidize those cheap prices with our tax dollars whether we shop there or not.

[Villager Joyce]

Gracie, I guess I am a Walmart snob. I am a Walmart snob because I dislike the fact that too many Walmart employees have children on government health care programs, recieve food stamps etc. I do not think the tax payer should subsidize Walmart salaries because of their part time pay practices. They use part time hours to avoid benefits for their employees. When we lived in Georgia it was reported that there were 14 times more children of Walmart employees on Medicaid programs than any other employer. Yes, they have cheap prices but we subsidize those cheap prices with our tax dollars whether we shop there or not.

What would happen if all Walmart employees were unemployed?

[perrjojo]

What would happen if all Walmart employees were unemployed?

What would happen if the Walton family paid a living wage and only had 147 Billion dollars rather than 149 Billion dollars?

[graciegirl]

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[njbchbum]

Gracie, I guess I am a Walmart snob. I am a Walmart snob because I dislike the fact that too many Walmart employees have children on government health care programs, recieve food stamps etc. I do not think the tax payer should subsidize Walmart salaries because of their part time pay practices. They use part time hours to avoid benefits for their employees. When we lived in Georgia it was reported that there were 14 times more children of Walmart employees on Medicaid programs than any other employer. Yes, they have cheap prices but we subsidize those cheap prices with our tax dollars whether we shop there or not.

How long since you lived in Georgia or read about Walmart policies? Perhaps you should revisit Walmart policies that changed way back in Feb. 2015! And have you ever considered that the employee[s] might only want to work part-time hour so that they DON'T lose those govt entitlements?
Walmart raises pay well above minimum wage - Feb. 19, 2015 (http://money.cnn.com/2015/02/19/news/companies/walmart-wages/index.html)

Why should Walmart or any employer be obligated to pay a 'living wage' to any employee rather than pay what the job is worth to be done in the face of competition for the same skill set?

How would you establish a 'living wage' when the cost of living varies so much in every area of the country?

[Villager Joyce]

Does Publix have full time employees? The Jenkins kids are at the very least big time millionaires.
What about McDonald's?
I could go on and on. If you want to get the point, you will. If you don't, you won't.

[perrjojo]

How long since you lived in Georgia or read about Walmart policies? Perhaps you should revisit Walmart policies that changed way back in Feb. 2015! And have you ever considered that the employee[s] might only want to work part-time hour so that they DON'T lose those govt entitlements?
Walmart raises pay well above minimum wage - Feb. 19, 2015 (http://money.cnn.com/2015/02/19/news/companies/walmart-wages/index.html)

Why should Walmart or any employer be obligated to pay a 'living wage' to any employee rather than pay what the job is worth to be done in the face of competition for the same skill set?

How would you establish a 'living wage' when the cost of living varies so much in every area of the country?

I guess I used the wrong word with "living wage" as it seems to be a political hot potato. I don't think it is the salary paid as much as the avoidance of benefits. And yes, some prefer part time but most do not. I also do not begrudge the Waltons their wealth. I prefer not to shop there and I choose not to approve of their employment practices, even those changed WAY back in 2015.

[RickeyD]

Walmart or any good corporate citizen should act accordingly and pay all employees a living wage. We are not living in the nineteenth century anymore when farm boys and girls fled to the cities and worked long hours seven days a week under deplorable conditions.
Unions organized to end these conditions for their members and all citizens.
Today, with all the good manufacturing jobs in third world countries because of corporate greed what are the farm boys and girls supposed to live on ?

[perrjojo]

Does Publix have full time employees? The Jenkins kids are at the very least big time millionaires.
What about McDonald's?
I could go on and on. If you want to get the point, you will. If you don't, you won't.

Yes, I get the point and so do you...we just see it differently :laugh:

[njbchbum]

Walmart or any good corporate citizen should act accordingly and pay all employees a living wage. We are not living in the nineteenth century anymore when farm boys and girls fled to the cities and worked long hours seven days a week under deplorable conditions.
Unions organized to end these conditions for their members and all citizens.
Today, with all the good manufacturing jobs in third world countries because of corporate greed what are the farm boys and girls supposed to live on ?

I ask you the same question:
Why should Walmart or any employer be obligated to pay a 'living wage' to any employee rather than pay what the job is worth to be done in the face of competition for the same skill set?

And further - How do you determine what is a 'living wage' in each of the many varied areas of this Country? perrjojo ducked the question - do you have a naswer? Just askin'.

[RickeyD]

I ask you the same question:

Why should Walmart or any employer be obligated to pay a 'living wage' to any employee rather than pay what the job is worth to be done in the face of competition for the same skill set?



And further - How do you determine what is a 'living wage' in each of the many varied areas of this Country? perrjojo ducked the question - do you have a naswer? Just askin'.



They are obligated because they choose to do business in our country and our country belongs to it's citizens, not corporations. Living wage calculators are available online broken down to each county in each state. Besides, NY & California are going to $15 an hour, the rest will fill in. Those that don't will dry up.

[perrjojo]

I ask you the same question:
Why should Walmart or any employer be obligated to pay a 'living wage' to any employee rather than pay what the job is worth to be done in the face of competition for the same skill set?

And further - How do you determine what is a 'living wage' in each of the many varied areas of this Country? perrjojo ducked the question - do you have a naswer? Just askin'.

I didn't really "duck" the question, I just know I have my opinion and you have yours. For you or I to explain our reasoning would take more time and space than a his forums allows and besides, neither of us will likely change our minds. Just because our opinions are different does not make one right or the other wrong. I stated my reasons for not shopping Walmart. You have your reason to shop Walmart. It is nice that we each have a choice.

[njbchbum]

They are obligated because they choose to do business in our country and our country belongs to it's citizens, not corporations. Living wage calculators are available online broken down to each county in each state. Besides, NY & California are going to $15 an hour, the rest will fill in. Those that don't will dry up.

If as you post, "..our country belongs to it's citizens, not corporations.", should the government then be paying the 'living wage'; and does it not attempt to do that by establishing a poverty level, minimum wage and welfare benefits?

I don't know where you spent your years in a career so I have to ask...if your employer[s] had been required to pay everyone in its/their employ a 'living wage' - how many employees would it/they have had and how long would they have stayed in business and what would it/they have had to charge for its/their product/service?

I spent 30+ years in fiscal work for private and public employers - each one paying employees within a broad salary range based on prevailing market rates for their appropriate and required skill set. Had either entity had to pay each of us a 'living wage' the private insurance company and hospital would have gone out of business and the public sector jobs would have pushed taxpayers into bankruptcy and onto welfare; and their failure to remit property/income taxes would have caused a government collapse.

[NYGUY]

....By the way, I think the parcel between Walgreens and McDonalds is where the new Bob Evans restaurant is going. Not positive about that though.

Bob Evans is going on the opposite side of Walgreen's.

[shumbapie]

What would happen if the Walton family paid a living wage and only had 147 Billion dollars rather than 149 Billion dollars?

Someone wants to play Santa Claus with other peoples money. A $15/hour minimum wage perhaps? Let's make it $75/hour and eliminate all poverty while we are at it...

[dewilson58]

Someone wants to play Santa Claus with other peoples money. A $15/hour minimum wage perhaps? Let's make it $75/hour and eliminate all poverty while we are at it...

I'm entitled to that!!!!


(Are we off topic yet??)

:popcorn:

[Chi-Town]

Anyhow, the Walmart Neighborhood Market I went to had nice wide aisles with good sight lines and neat shelves. Quick and courteous checkout was also a plus. Would like to see one on 466 also.

[RickeyD]

I'm looking forward to a Wally World food store [emoji847]

[photo1902]

About a year ago I was sharing the benefits of having a Wegmans as an alternative to food shop in on TOTV and ripped apart by a women who just posted on this thread. She passed judgement on me...me...the man who has bang for the buck in his DNA. I let it go but never forgot. Having a nice choice of grocery stores is wonderful. Walmart is going to be a diamond for the million dollar buyers of homes. We'll be there saving money alongside of them while they are cutting corners to pay that big nut every month for their million dollar home. More power to ya! I can say safely that I know of a second poster now that we won't be bumping into at Walmart. Be kind to the little people when you make it to the top.:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow:

Well said!

[perrjojo]

I'm entitled to that!!!!


(Are we off topic yet??)

:popcorn:
Are we off topic yet? Yes, my point was only the reason that I am a Walmart snob". Others have chosen to make it a social/political discussion. Sorry my opinion started all of this nonsense.

[dewilson58]

Are we off topic yet? Yes, my point was only the reason that I am a Walmart snob". Others have chosen to make it a social/political discussion. Sorry my opinion started all of this nonsense.

Refer to "The Weekend" thread. :laugh:

[RickeyD]

Are we off topic yet? Yes, my point was only the reason that I am a Walmart snob". Others have chosen to make it a social/political discussion. Sorry my opinion started all of this nonsense.



Shame on you for igniting raw emotions with opinionated Villagers [emoji6]

[Nucky]

:faint:I don't think it is off topic. A good spirited give and take of opinion is what this is all about. Isn't it ok to wander off a little bit? What is the big deal?:faint:

[looneycat]

They are obligated because they choose to do business in our country and our country belongs to it's citizens, not corporations. Living wage calculators are available online broken down to each county in each state. Besides, NY & California are going to $15 an hour, the rest will fill in. Those that don't will dry up.

the states that did increase their minimum to 12 or 15 $/hr (Oregon is an example) have experienced large layoffs and higher than normal business closures. A nurse makes that, a non skilled participant does not deserve it.

[RickeyD]

the states that did increase their minimum to 12 or 15 $/hr (Oregon is an example) have experienced large layoffs and higher than normal business closures. A nurse makes that, a non skilled participant does not deserve it.

A nurse makes $30 to $50 an hour and excuse my rudeness but who are you to say anyone that breaks their back for a living day in and day out does not deserve a decent living wage. Seriously ? :cus:

[dewilson58]

At the Meet The Developer meeting tonight, two new retail operations were announced:

1. Talbots will open a store by Dec. 31. The location wasn't mentioned.

2. A Walmart Neighborhood Market will open on 466A across from Colony Plaza. Timing wasn't announced.


Oh yes, the OP.

Thanks for the information.

:laugh:

[ukbill70]

Publix for Bread, Fresh Market for Meat and Walmart for most other things.

[perrjojo]

What I have learned from this thread? Never jump to conclusions on what you read. Living wage? I have been attacked by both sides of the issue when I had no intent to address either side. Oh well.

[Moderator]

Thread has strayed hopelessly off-topic of new retail stores announced for The Villages.

Thread Closed.

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