Free Speech in a Marriage.

[Taltarzac725]

Unless one of you has Turret's Syndrome how many marriages actually have Free Speech?

I was always careful with whatever I said around any woman I wanted to get intimate with at some point. Maybe not so much with those I just saw as friends but still if there was any hope....

My 224 613 Project has always been a little too much baggage for my various girlfriends or the women I have had an interest in as the interest in this Project dates to February 28, 1976. And I have a lot quite traumatic memories attached to it. So, I never married.

[Nucky]

Free Speech has been extinguished in most successful Marriages. It's sorta like the probationary period in a new job except it lasts alot longer. It's not like making it into the union where you can cruise once you make it. Consideration & Patience is needed for success. What I'm struggling to say is you can say what's on your mind kindly but you better be ready for the response. That's the best I can explain it until someone on here straightens me out and I have to defend myself. I know one thing for certain that it's no fun being the Chief when you don't have any Indian's! :popcorn:

[Taltarzac725]

Free Speech has been extinguished in most successful Marriages. It's sorta like the probationary period in a new job except it lasts alot longer. It's not like making it into the union where you can cruise once you make it. Consideration & Patience is needed for success. What I'm struggling to say is you can say what's on your mind kindly but you better be ready for the response. That's the best I can explain it until someone on here straightens me out and I have to defend myself. I know one thing for certain that it's no fun being the Chief when you don't have any Indian's! :popcorn:

I have always feared the twist of Lysistrata as well. SparkNotes: Lysistrata: Summary (http://www.sparknotes.com/drama/lysistrata/summary.html)

That is to say. Speak the wrong thing and no soup for you for quite some time.

[Taltarzac725]

Free Speech has been extinguished in most successful Marriages. It's sorta like the probationary period in a new job except it lasts alot longer. It's not like making it into the union where you can cruise once you make it. Consideration & Patience is needed for success. What I'm struggling to say is you can say what's on your mind kindly but you better be ready for the response. That's the best I can explain it until someone on here straightens me out and I have to defend myself. I know one thing for certain that it's no fun being the Chief when you don't have any Indian's! :popcorn:

I have always feared the twist of Lysistrata as well. SparkNotes: Lysistrata: Summary (http://www.sparknotes.com/drama/lysistrata/summary.html)

That is to say. Speak the wrong thing and no soup for you for quite some time.

[Villager Joyce]

How much free speech depends on what works for each couple at that particular date and time, subject to change.

[dewilson58]

Depends on if my bride and I are in the same room or not.

[Taltarzac725]

Depends on if my bride and I are in the same room or not.

I exercise a lot of self-restraint when talking to women at Doggie Doo Run Run especially if they have a pit bull mix in tow. I would probably do this if they had a Yorkie though as well.

When dating a lawyer you often need to be quite careful as well as you might get sued and need them at some point in the future.

Then there are librarians who might say you have not brought back the $1 per day video just yet even though you had.

That did happen a few times when I was getting a little too aggressive with my 224 613 Project with some of the libraries in Tampa Bay. I found out that my Free Speech Expression resulting in them waiting to check-in some of my materials or somehow using an Administrative Function to override their Library Circulation records.

At least, it was never more than $5 or so. Still very irritating and I stopped going to that Library System and refused to pay the fine.

Some librarians show their teeth and its not in a smile.

This has never happened here with the Villages' area libraries and I have been quite laid-back with the 224 613 Project with regards to local libraries especially after the March 2, 2004 Palm Harbor Library General Counsel lawsuit and blacklist from volunteering threat on the behalf of Palm Harbor Library Director Gene Coppola. This was after I pointed out in many e-mails to his staff that they no longer had a link to the Florida Victim Services Directory Victim Services Directory (http://myfloridalegal.com/directory) something I had fought hard for from about 1999-2000 onward. My Free Speech pretty much forced me to get out of Dodge so to speak. That or try to hire my own lawyer which probably would have been a problem as my 224 613 Project had angered some of them as well.

Google Taltarzac725 and you will see why I say strongly and from very long term experiences that Free Speech is not Free and often comes with a very stiff Price.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Just because we have free speech, it doesn't mean that we may not suffer the consequences of it.

Free speech only guarantees freedom from legal prosecution.

[Taltarzac725]

Just because we have free speech, it doesn't mean that we may not suffer the consequences of it.

Free speech only guarantees freedom from legal prosecution.

That really only applies if you are a legislator speaking on the floor of the Legislative Assembly. It seems like anywhere else there are limitations on just what and to whom you can express this speech.

The marriage bed I would assume is one place where you have to be the most careful about what you say. Father of the Bride’s Speech – Jokes quotes and ideas (http://www.presentationmagazine.com/father-of-the-bride-speech-6961.htm)

This is interesting-- Speech | First Amendment Center – news, commentary, analysis on free speech, press, religion, assembly, petition (http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/category/speech)

[rubicon]

Depends on if my bride and I are in the same room or not.

:1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Nucky]

Depends on if my bride and I are in the same room or not.

Nominated for Post of the decade.:bigbow: New Grip Replacement on
the golf ball retriever descends to second place. :1rotfl:

[Taltarzac725]

Nominated for Post of the decade.:bigbow: New Grip Replacement on
the golf ball retriever descends to second place. :1rotfl:

That was very amusing.

Depends on if my bride and I are in the same room or not.

[dbussone]

Free Speech has been extinguished in most successful Marriages. It's sorta like the probationary period in a new job except it lasts alot longer. It's not like making it into the union where you can cruise once you make it. Consideration & Patience is needed for success. What I'm struggling to say is you can say what's on your mind kindly but you better be ready for the response. That's the best I can explain it until someone on here straightens me out and I have to defend myself. I know one thing for certain that it's no fun being the Chief when you don't have any Indian's! :popcorn:



I quite understand what you mean Nucky. My least favorite phrase is uttered by my wonderful wife when she starts saying: "How do you think...(fill in the blank).

[Taltarzac725]

I quite understand what you mean Nucky. My least favorite phrase is uttered by my wonderful wife when she starts saying: "How do you think...(fill in the blank).

That's what I like about dogs, they seldom ask you if they look good in this pants suit or if that casserole was good. I do a lot of cooking though as do many men here in the Villages. Some real male gourmet cooks on my block. :icon_hungry::icon_hungry:

I should be taking lessons from some of these men. And they seem to know when to shut up which as you can tell is sometimes a problem of mine especially if you look at the history of my 224 613 Project if you Google Taltarzac725.

[Carl in Tampa]

Just because we have free speech, it doesn't mean that we may not suffer the consequences of it.

Free speech only guarantees freedom from legal prosecution.

:agree:

The First Amendment protects us only from the government, not from each other. You cannot speak offensive language and invoke "Free Speech" to defend what you are saying.

Choosing to speak diplomatically, particularly when in social settings where you disagree with others, is not a violation of your rights to free speech. It is your choice. You are "free" to say anything you want. However, you may not like the results.

[Taltarzac725]

:agree:

The First Amendment protects us only from the government, not from each other. You cannot speak offensive language and invoke "Free Speech" to defend what you are saying.

Choosing to speak diplomatically, particularly when in social settings where you disagree with others, is not a violation of your rights to free speech. It is your choice. You are "free" to say anything you want. However, you may not like the results.

And you often need to prove that it was a state action and not some bureaucrat being a jerk. Column: Applying the Constitution to Private Actors (New York Law Journal) | New York Civil Liberties Union (NYCLU) - American Civil Liberties Union of New York State (http://www.nyclu.org/oped/column-applying-constitution-private-actors-new-york-law-journal)

http://www.harvardlawreview.org/wp-content/uploads/pdfs/DEVO_10.pdf

[rubicon]

My wife and I did a Marriage Encounter weekend during the early 1970's.

The priest explained that feelings were neither right nor wrong but rather how one reacted to those feelings

He also explained that our communication should be an open and honest sharing void of garbage dumping

My wife only remembered the last portion of both those statements:)

[ukbill70]

In our Marriage I can say whatever I like providing my wife approves it first.

[dbussone]

In our Marriage I can say whatever I like providing my wife approves it first.



What is your secret to obtaining approval? ::jester:: [emoji41]

[Nucky]

In our Marriage I can say whatever I like providing my wife approves it first.

I married your wife's sister. :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[fromct]

I think this link covers all the possibilities.........

The Female Rules 1. The Female always makes THE RULES. 2. THE RULES are subject to change without notice. 3. No Male can possibly know all THE RULES. 4. If the Female suspe... (http://boardofwisdom.com/togo/Quotes/ShowQuote?msgid=69210)

[Schaumburger]

Gentlemen, just remember this simple guideline: happy wife, happy life. :)

[ukbill70]

What is your secret to obtaining approval? ::jester:: [emoji41]

That's the problem

[Taltarzac725]

I think this link covers all the possibilities.........

The Female Rules 1. The Female always makes THE RULES. 2. THE RULES are subject to change without notice. 3. No Male can possibly know all THE RULES. 4. If the Female suspe... (http://boardofwisdom.com/togo/Quotes/ShowQuote?msgid=69210)

Sounds right to me.

[rubicon]

I married your wife's sister. :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

They are all sisters just different addresses

[dbussone]

Gentlemen, just remember this simple guideline: happy wife, happy life. :)



I have this phrase tattooed inside my eyelids.

[Madelaine Amee]

You know guys, this thread if very one sided!

I married the only child Mama's boy who was used to getting his own way in EVERYTHING. The early days were tough, walked on eggs many times to save the peace. Free speech did not exist in our home until I got the hang of handling a spoiled brat. :ohdear:

These days I pick my battles and if I get the silent treatment I just jump in the car and take off, so much more to do in TV.:boom:

[silvertoken]

Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference, and impart information and ideas through any media regardless of frontiers. "United Nations"59922







This helps make happy wife.

[rubicon]

The dreaded question from my wife: "How does this look on me?" Uh.......................................

[Taltarzac725]

You know guys, this thread if very one sided!

I married the only child Mama's boy who was used to getting his own way in EVERYTHING. The early days were tough, walked on eggs many times to save the peace. Free speech did not exist in our home until I got the hang of handling a spoiled brat. :ohdear:

These days I pick my battles and if I get the silent treatment I just jump in the car and take off, so much more to do in TV.:boom:

Since I live with my parents, I do have to be very careful what kind of Free Speech I exercise or I would find myself with no where to go. Just kidding as they have been great with my 224 613 obsession since I was forced to come home in late 1991 after running out of money after writing all the US State Governors, all the US Senators, two hundred and forty five or so US House Representatives, some law school deans, various leaders in various areas including maybe those with Hollywood connections ( when fighting a bully get the meanest ****** in the Valley to help you out and anyone else I could think off ) after my law school colleagues pretty much told me I was blacklisted from the profession I had just earned four degrees to enter, etc. Check my Taltarzac725 Photobucket array. I have done wonderful things just through the love of family and true grit and never giving up on my dream. Of course, I still have to be very careful what I say. :welcome::bigbow::popcorn::clap2: And I am still very scared of homelessness despite all the very hard work I have done for others since January 1991. It still seems like the bureaucrats are winning the war.

[Madelaine Amee]

The dreaded question from my wife: "How does this look on me?" Uh.......................................

Rubicon, when I ask "him" that question I want a really honest answer ............. don't let me leave this house looking like an hot mess! There is a really nice way of doing it ...........

Honey, you know I think you look great, but that really does not do much for you, I prefer you in etc. etc. ..............

.......... and, by the way, I do the same to him. "Are you really going out in that, hmmm". Works every time.

[dbussone]

Rubicon, when I ask "him" that question I want a really honest answer ............. don't let me leave this house looking like an hot mess! There is a really nice way of doing it ...........



Honey, you know I think you look great, but that really does not do much for you, I prefer you in etc. etc. ..............



.......... and, by the way, I do the same to him. "Are you really going out in that, hmmm". Works every time.



MA - you know, in the South, being called a "hot mess" could be considered a real compliment. And the there is also a "smoking hot mess."
Amy Schumer and a Brief History of the Phrase: 'Hot Mess' (http://time.com/46267/hot-mess-history-amy-schumer/)



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[Madelaine Amee]

MA - you know, in the South, being called a "hot mess" could be considered a real compliment. And the there is also a "smoking hot mess."
Amy Schumer and a Brief History of the Phrase: 'Hot Mess' (http://time.com/46267/hot-mess-history-amy-schumer/)



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:bigbow: Unfortunately, in my age group being called a "hot mess" just means you look like something pulled through a hedge backwards, and as for "smoking hot mess", that means you had a cigarette hanging out of your mouth while they pulled you through a hedge backwards!!!

[dbussone]

:bigbow: Unfortunately, in my age group being called a "hot mess" just means you look like something pulled through a hedge backwards, and as for "smoking hot mess", that means you had a cigarette hanging out of your mouth while they pulled you through a hedge backwards!!!



What a hoot!

[Taltarzac725]

:bigbow: Unfortunately, in my age group being called a "hot mess" just means you look like something pulled through a hedge backwards, and as for "smoking hot mess", that means you had a cigarette hanging out of your mouth while they pulled you through a hedge backwards!!!

That's quite funny. But I would never say that to a woman no matter what the situation unless maybe someone forced some truth serum down my throat.

[Taltarzac725]

I am getting less careful about what I say at Doggie Doo Run Run around Harlow. That's the pooch that would get very protective of his female owner whenever I came close especially when I wanted to visit with Harlow's owner's friend who I was trying to get to know a lot better. It just seems to be Harlow and his owner now.

Harlow is a lot better behaved though now. I had mentioned Harlow quite a bit a few months ago. Harlow is the pit bull/boxer mix that I was worried about changing what bathroom I would be going into at future dates due to a very unwelcome kind of surgery. He comes up at the jawline about equal to a man's hips. I am still being careful around Harlow though.

It does help to have retired and working law enforcement officers at Doggie Doo Run Run and they are quick to step in and take a stand on some issue or another. And they usually document stuff with their phones if need be and talk to the DDRR owners if necessary.