Socialists ban school books that question climate change

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Oregon school board bans books that question climate change - Washington Times (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/20/oregon-school-board-bans-books-that-question-clima/)

"The Portland Public Schools board unanimously approved a resolution this week that bans textbooks and other teaching materials that deny climate change exists or cast doubt on whether humans are to blame."

Hey everybody, lets get together for a book burning. The Climate Nazis are at it again.

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Sen. Inhofe takes charge of Environment Committee | TheHill (http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/230254-sen-inhofe-takes-charge-of-environment-committee)

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Now, that is a good reason to burn books that one faction does not agree with, right?

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The agenda for today's progressives isn't truth, its power and it fools its members with talk of social justice and equality which they follow through with absurd remedies

Progressives enforce their agenda through coercive methods using legal means and shaming people via the courts , media, Hollywood. They undermine our democracy and reject the rule of law. Their moral relativist theme misleads them such as all minorities are oppressed, capitalist are only greedy, climate change deniers ought to be charged under the RICO act . Indeed if people do not fight back progressives will be goose stepping in the streets not long from now.

It is predicted that Republican dissatisfied with the Republican Party and those Democrats dissatisfied with the progressives will join to form a new third party

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Now, that is a good reason to burn books that one faction does not agree with, right?I read the article. Who suggested burning books?

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I read the article. Who suggested burning books?

I did. Censure free thought and you might as well burn the books. Isn't that what the Nazis did? Same as Obama's AG trying to charge so-called "hate speech." It's a trend today with the radical left to gain more power. The more "rights" they take away, the less freedom American citizens have.

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I did. Censure free thought and you might as well burn the books. Isn't that what the Nazis did? Same as Obama's AG trying to charge so-called "hate speech." It's a trend today with the radical left to gain more power. The more "rights" they take away, the less freedom American citizens have.They are picking out science textbooks. I have never met a teacher that doesn't encourage students to do additional outside reading including Inhoffe's book. The Nazi's forbade reading banned books.

This is silly you know all this.

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Law against hate speech enacted, but... (https://news.google.com/news/story?ncl=dpMdyKxj1K1LlyMxU7Gd02gzNmCwM&q=%22hate+speech.%22&lr=English&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjak5vQgvTMAhWD3SYKHVcxDMAQqgIIIzAA)

The only hate speech news stories I can find are from Japan.

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Why shouldn`t sicence be subject to the rules of PC and Thought Control ?

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Why shouldn`t sicence be subject to the rules of PC and Thought Control ?Because that would make it science fiction, very old science fiction at that.

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There are libraries available that have these books probably even these school libraries.

Students should be able to research and think for themselves.

Did they do this where you went to grade school, Junior HS, High School? Mine not so much and this was 1970-1976 or so.

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Law against hate speech enacted, but... (https://news.google.com/news/story?ncl=dpMdyKxj1K1LlyMxU7Gd02gzNmCwM&q=%22hate+speech.%22&lr=English&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjak5vQgvTMAhWD3SYKHVcxDMAQqgIIIzAA)

The only hate speech news stories I can find are from Japan.

Department of Justice Will Go After Anti-Muslim Hate Speech - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/US/department-justice-anti-muslim-hate-speech/story?id=35585946)

Lynch recalibrates message on hateful speech - POLITICO (http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2015/12/lynch-recalibrates-message-on-hateful-speech-216488)

Obama’s Attorney General Promises to Criminalize Speech >> Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind! (http://www.infowars.com/obamas-attorney-general-promises-to-criminalize-speech/)

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There are libraries available that have these books probably even these school libraries.

Students should be able to research and think for themselves.

Did they do this where you went to grade school, Junior HS, High School? Mine not so much and this was 1970-1976 or so.

I wouldn't know what they did in school in the 70's. I graduated from HS in the 60's, served in Vietnam and then got married, so public school was NOT an issue at that time.

Now, instead of history studies, they push "social studies" where they teach motives instead of facts, by changing/bending historical facts to accommodate social engineering.

I am surprised that they have not banned KFC commercials yet, since they have the Col. Sanders figure that could be construed as a Confederate figure.

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I wouldn't know what they did in school in the 70's. I graduated from HS in the 60's, served in Vietnam and then got married, so public school was NOT an issue at that time.

Now, instead of history studies, they push "social studies" where they teach motives instead of facts, by changing/bending historical facts to accommodate social engineering.

I am surprised that they have not banned KFC commercials yet, since they have the Col. Sanders figure that could be construed as a Confederate figure.

It's been going on for a long time...

In 10 years, he'll be a black col sanders.

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It's been going on for a long time...

In 10 years, he'll be a black col sanders.

Dat be "Masta Sargent Sanders" foo....

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Dat be "Masta Sargent Sanders" foo....

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Yup...Americas future...I weep...you gave it to "them"...and they will destroy it.

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To answer everyone's questions teachers gave out research assignments, position papers and term papers since before you all went to school. Students went to libraries, used the Readers Guide to Periodical literature and microfiche machines before cd data basses were used. It probably wasn't assigned very often, if at all in the lower level classes.

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To answer everyone's questions teachers gave out research assignments, position papers and term papers since before you all went to school. Students went to libraries, used the Readers Guide to Periodical literature and microfiche machines before cd data basses were used. It probably wasn't assigned very often, if at all in the lower level classes.

What questions? Weren't we discussing the ban on books that questioned climate change?

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What questions? Weren't we discussing the ban on books that questioned climate change?
Did they do this where you went to grade school, Junior HS, High School? Mine not so much and this was 1970-1976 or so.

I wouldn't know what they did in school in the 70's. I graduated from HS in the 60's, served in Vietnam and then got married, so public school was NOT an issue at that time.

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In the not too distant future most likely during the upcoming reign of " Her Highness " the Left will believe that they have technology that can read the private thoughts of the citizenry .

At this point it will be a Federal Hate Crime to harbor any type of anti-PC thought . The " readings " of the machine which they will employ will be accepted as the only necessary evidence to convict one of harboring such thoughts .
The prisons will soon become very full so the concept of a " Penal Colony " will be implemented . In this case it will be the State which is considered to be the least desirable to live in . All " good " citizens from the new Penal Colony State will be resettled .

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In the not too distant future most likely during the upcoming reign of " Her Highness " the Left will believe that they have technology that can read the private thoughts of the citizenry .

At this point it will be a Federal Hate Crime to harbor any type of anti-PC thought . The " readings " of the machine which they will employ will be accepted as the only necessary evidence to convict one of harboring such thoughts .
The prisons will soon become very full so the concept of a " Penal Colony " will be implemented . In this case it will be the State which is considered to be the least desirable to live in . All " good " citizens from the new Penal Colony State will be resettled .Is this before or after The Village buildout?

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Is this before or after The Village buildout?

Since the Majority of residents here in The Villages regardless of their actual political affiliation are holding onto old fashioned values and beliefs they will not pass the test of the " PC Machine ".

Consequently they will be resettled in the new Penal Colony which I am given to believe will be in the area which is currently known as North Dakota . :posting:

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Since the Majority of residents here in The Villages regardless of their actual political affiliation are holding onto old fashioned values and beliefs they will not pass the test of the " PC Machine ".

Consequently they will be resettled in the new Penal Colony which I am given to believe will be in the area which is currently known as North Dakota . :posting:
By old values do you mean "love thy neighbor" or are you adding a couple of unlesses in there about race, color and creed. What's old is new again.

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Since the Majority of residents here in The Villages regardless of their actual political affiliation are holding onto old fashioned values and beliefs they will not pass the test of the " PC Machine ".

Consequently they will be resettled in the new Penal Colony which I am given to believe will be in the area which is currently known as North Dakota . :posting:

They don't like the cold country...that's why they'll let us keep ND.

By old values do you mean "love thy neighbor" or are you adding a couple of unlesses in there about race, color and creed. What's old is new again.

Why not? Haven't we proven by now that diversity hasn't worked? We've never been lower in world rankings than we are now, and we're going lower every year. Why? Because minorities are the majority from age 6 down. Their numbers have been steadily growing, while our world ranking has been slowly falling.

The end of everything as we know it is nigh...

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They don't like the cold country...that's why they'll let us keep ND.



Why not? Haven't we proven by now that diversity hasn't worked? We've never been lower in world rankings than we are now, and we're going lower every year. Why? Because minorities are the majority from age 6 down. Their numbers have been steadily growing, while our world ranking has been slowly falling.

The end of everything as we know it is nigh...Show me the rankings.

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By old values do you mean "love thy neighbor" or are you adding a couple of unlesses in there about race, color and creed. What's old is new again.

I am referring to ideas such as self-responsibility , working hard to support your family , saving for your retirement , taking care of your property , believing that the world does not owe you a thing ,
family , volunteering and not expecting Gvt to " do it ". ETC

You know silly old fashioned values . To believe in such concepts and not believe in the contrary is not consistent with " PC Thinking ".

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Show me the rankings.

Best Countries Ranking Full List | US News Best Countries (http://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/overall-full-list) #4 in the world.

Country Rankings: World & Global Economy Rankings on Economic Freedom (http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking) Freedom, we're #11

Country Rankings 2016 - Country comparisons, Economy, Geography, Climate, Natural Resources, Current Issues, International Agreements, Population, Social Statistics, Flags, Maps, Political System (http://www.photius.com/rankings/) All kinds of rankings.

The World's Richest and Poorest Countries of 2015 | Global Finance Magazine (https://www.gfmag.com/global-data/economic-data/worlds-richest-and-poorest-countries) We're #9

International Rankings of United States 2016, country comparisons (http://www.theodora.com/wfbcurrent/united_states/united_states_international_rankings_2016.html) Big list...not many #1s

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Best Countries Ranking Full List | US News Best Countries (http://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/overall-full-list) #4 in the world.

Country Rankings: World & Global Economy Rankings on Economic Freedom (http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking) Freedom, we're #11

Country Rankings 2016 - Country comparisons, Economy, Geography, Climate, Natural Resources, Current Issues, International Agreements, Population, Social Statistics, Flags, Maps, Political System (http://www.photius.com/rankings/) All kinds of rankings.

The World's Richest and Poorest Countries of 2015 | Global Finance Magazine (https://www.gfmag.com/global-data/economic-data/worlds-richest-and-poorest-countries) We're #9

International Rankings of United States 2016, country comparisons (http://www.theodora.com/wfbcurrent/united_states/united_states_international_rankings_2016.html) Big list...not many #1s
Did you notice all the socialist countries on the list? Did you read how countries were evaluated, in particular best overall?
Do you think we are becoming a third world country based on these lists?

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Ranking America | a site for information about the U.S. | Page 10 (https://rankingamerica.wordpress.com/page/10/)


This is a pretty interesting and surprising list of rankings.

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To answer everyone's questions teachers gave out research assignments, position papers and term papers since before you all went to school. Students went to libraries, used the Readers Guide to Periodical literature and microfiche machines before cd data basses were used. It probably wasn't assigned very often, if at all in the lower level classes.

wow--you used the phrase "Readers Guide to Periodical literature" which brought me back 50 years to doing research in an actual library--thanks

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wow--you used the phrase "Readers Guide to Periodical literature" which brought me back 50 years to doing research in an actual library--thanksI know. In high school I had to take a bus to the big city library.

You would find a half dozen articles to support your argument, write them on a slip of paper, hand it to the research assistant who gathered the ones they had. Then some of the time the story you wanted was torn out because that was before copiers and sometimes the article had nothing to do with your thesis statement. Now the world is at everyone's fingertips. And for all you know I could be a twelve year old living in Qatar.

all that in our lifetime

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When we start comparing ourselves with other countries instead of their attempting to emulate us, then we know we are changing too much into just another socialist system. I have lived in other countries and spent a major portion of my life overseas and have never lived in a better country than America and have never wanted anything from another country other than those that had less crime because they had ENFORCEMENT. I do not CARE about lists when it comes to other countries. These lists are submitted by liberal statisticians that are always looking on the "other side of the fence." We don't receive Foreign aid from any other country, they receive it from us. We don't try to break into their countries, they want to live in ours. But ,this won't last long....thanks to Anti-American liberals.

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The World Factbook (https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/rankorderguide.html)

Another Anti-American Book of Comparisons worth looking into.

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The World Factbook (https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/rankorderguide.html)

Another Anti-American Book of Comparisons worth looking into.

I think that the point is, who cares what other countries do, rate, or how they compare? Why should we be like them, when we are the best according to OUR criteria? Some other country has socialized health care, and we don't. Great for them, but we have less waiting times, cleaner facilities, more doctors, better technology, etc. Our education may not be as highly rated, but that is our choice. It is not as if we don't have the material available. It has to do with our discipline. If you believe that social issues are more important than morals, laws, safety, ethics, etc. then other countries are going to have better education. Don't blame the kids, blame the parents and the liberals for giving a free pass to anyone rather than holding them accountable.

This is our country and we should NOT compare ourselves to others. Why lower ourselves to their level?

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Don't blame the kids, blame the parents and the liberals for giving a free pass to anyone rather than holding them accountable. I agree, blame the parents. Half of the parents are conservative, is that true? Most teachers are liberal minded. Being open minded, looking out for others and a willingness to serve the community is part of their makeup. Lowering the bar makes teaching easier with far less interference from parents or administrators but it's not right or healthy for students over the long run.

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I agree, blame the parents. Half of the parents are conservative, is that true? Most teachers are liberal minded. Being open minded, looking out for others and a willingness to serve the community is part of their makeup. Lowering the bar makes teaching easier with far less interference from parents or administrators but it's not right or healthy for students over the long run.

Kind of difficult to blame conservatives on a bad education. You liberals like to equate a "free mind" to being open minded and the ability to see the "big picture." Conservatives know that a so-called "free mind" for children is the same as being simple minded. Teachers are not allowed to discipline or maintain order in the classroom because of the liberal mentality, not because of anything that conservatives have done. Parents allow the teachers to make their choices for them, but in many cases have no say in how their kids are taught. Liberals are getting their way and when they fail, they blame it on conservatives. Just like the Obamacare failure. They blame it on conservatives for not supporting them, not sharing the responsibility for the health care disaster.

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Kind of difficult to blame conservatives on a bad education. I was agreeing with the person who also blames the parents.

He didn't say he blames only the liberal parents, did he?

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Kind of difficult to blame conservatives on a bad education. You liberals like to equate a "free mind" to being open minded and the ability to see the "big picture." Conservatives know that a so-called "free mind" for children is the same as being simple minded. Teachers are not allowed to discipline or maintain order in the classroom because of the liberal mentality, not because of anything that conservatives have done. Parents allow the teachers to make their choices for them, but in many cases have no say in how their kids are taught. Liberals are getting their way and when they fail, they blame it on conservatives. Just like the Obamacare failure. They blame it on conservatives for not supporting them, not sharing the responsibility for the health care disaster.
What a crock. How would you like your kids to be disciplined? Stop blaming teachers for your kids failures. You are the problem. Free public schooling. Largest social program in the country. There are school boards made up of liberal and conservatives alike. Blame them. How many of you conservatives blame your liberal kids on yourself? How many of you use school as free day care? There are plenty of military schools to send your kids. I blame parents for not making their schools better.

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What a crock. How would you like your kids to be disciplined? Stop blaming teachers for your kids failures. You are the problem. Free public schooling. Largest social program in the country. There are school boards made up of liberal and conservatives alike. Blame them. How many of you conservatives blame your liberal kids on yourself? How many of you use school as free day care? There are plenty of military schools to send your kids. I blame parents for not making their schools better.

I sent three of my four children to private schools, so that they WOULD have discipline and that it would be required of others so that my children would receive a better education. They did. My youngest graduated second in her class at age 16 and graduated with honors at age 20 from the university. Her daughter is 15 years old and will have a two year college degree when she graduates from high school, because she is piggybacking college classes along with her high school schedule. On top of that, she is active in school and national sports.

It's not the conservatives that are ruining the education system. It's liberals, liberal ideals, unions and the lack of authority that teachers have to lead their classes. Parents have little to do with that, but they have a responsibility to discipline their children. Liberals do not believe in discipline and won't. Conservatives will but have their hands tied behind their backs by liberal laws.

So, don't try to share the blame on the conservatives. You liberals OWN it. The decline in education is totally the left's fault.

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What a crock. How would you like your kids to be disciplined? Stop blaming teachers for your kids failures. You are the problem. Free public schooling. Largest social program in the country. There are school boards made up of liberal and conservatives alike. Blame them. How many of you conservatives blame your liberal kids on yourself? How many of you use school as free day care? There are plenty of military schools to send your kids. I blame parents for not making their schools better.

And just how do you think the kids became liberals? From years of indoctrination in public schools and the real brain washing comes in college. your liberal Union knows they have friend in the democrat, so there political interests (money) greased the dirty politician for unionized votes in the districts.

Three fold front, union to get Union matters passed ( raises, 100% unfunded retirement, free health care ECT.) teach the kids to be good little liberals to vote democrat to support the program, and for higher education grants and studies.

This system been in place for at least 40 years and now paying off big. Along with the uncontrolled illegals and lax voting identification and rules the table has turned all for entitlements. I blame the public school system and college all ran by liberals to keep the agenda going. Parents don't have clue what's going on.

I also have to laugh when you say conservatives are on school boards. Anybody knows that republician or conservative teacher will never advance and will probably be systematically rooted out.

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And just how do you think the kids became liberals? From years of indoctrination in public schools and the real brain washing comes in college. your liberal Union knows they have friend in the democrat, so there political interests (money) greased the dirty politician for unionized votes in the districts.

Three fold front, union to get Union matters passed ( raises, 100% unfunded retirement, free health care ECT.) teach the kids to be good little liberals to vote democrat to support the program, and for higher education grants and studies.

This system been in place for at least 40 years and now paying off big. Along with the uncontrolled illegals and lax voting identification and rules the table has turned all for entitlements. I blame the public school system and college all ran by liberals to keep the agenda going. Parents don't have clue what's going on.

I also have to laugh when you say conservatives are on school boards. Anybody knows that republician or conservative teacher will never advance and will probably be systematically rooted out.

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This system been in place for at least 40 years and now paying off big.
"The American Federation of Teachers (AFT) is an American labor union that primarily represents teachers. The union was founded in Chicago in 1916, with Margaret Haley credited as its founder and first leader.[3][4] A precursor to the group, the American Federation of Teachers and Students, was founded in 1900."

The teacher unions have been around for 100 years. If what you say is true, the kids have all been brainwashed, how would you account for all the conservatives that are less than 110 years old?

When your other remarks can be backed up with real sources besides "everybody knows", let us know.

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Did you notice all the socialist countries on the list? Did you read how countries were evaluated, in particular best overall?
Do you think we are becoming a third world country based on these lists?

I noticed all the "white" countries on the list.

I think these lists show the effect of the rise in minority population and influence. The 3rd worlding shows up in these lists. The diversification shows up in these lists.

When we start comparing ourselves with other countries instead of their attempting to emulate us, then we know we are changing too much into just another socialist system. I have lived in other countries and spent a major portion of my life overseas and have never lived in a better country than America and have never wanted anything from another country other than those that had less crime because they had ENFORCEMENT. I do not CARE about lists when it comes to other countries. These lists are submitted by liberal statisticians that are always looking on the "other side of the fence." We don't receive Foreign aid from any other country, they receive it from us. We don't try to break into their countries, they want to live in ours. But ,this won't last long....thanks to Anti-American liberals.

The lists show the decline.

We "print" the foreign aid we send. It's made up 0s and 1s on a computer, nothing more. Like your crazy uncle with no money writing checks to everyone. We're the BROKEST country in the world, we owe $20 trillion.

No, it won't last long, when they become the majority, the country will be as bad off as where they came from.

I think that the point is, who cares what other countries do, rate, or how they compare? Why should we be like them, when we are the best according to OUR criteria? Some other country has socialized health care, and we don't. Great for them, but we have less waiting times, cleaner facilities, more doctors, better technology, etc. Our education may not be as highly rated, but that is our choice. It is not as if we don't have the material available. It has to do with our discipline. If you believe that social issues are more important than morals, laws, safety, ethics, etc. then other countries are going to have better education. Don't blame the kids, blame the parents and the liberals for giving a free pass to anyone rather than holding them accountable.

This is our country and we should NOT compare ourselves to others. Why lower ourselves to their level?

Who's criteria? I think we're turning into a 3rd world minority filled dump. Look outside the bubble, it's nasty out there.

It has to do with minorities not being able to pass with higher standards.

Blame diversification. It's our ruin.

We ARE lowering ourselves to their level so minorities can "compete".


I agree, blame the parents. Half of the parents are conservative, is that true? Most teachers are liberal minded. Being open minded, looking out for others and a willingness to serve the community is part of their makeup. Lowering the bar makes teaching easier with far less interference from parents or administrators but it's not right or healthy for students over the long run.

Lowering the bar is necessary for minorities to have any chance at passing.

It's not healthy for the country.

What a crock. How would you like your kids to be disciplined? Stop blaming teachers for your kids failures. You are the problem. Free public schooling. Largest social program in the country. There are school boards made up of liberal and conservatives alike. Blame them. How many of you conservatives blame your liberal kids on yourself? How many of you use school as free day care? There are plenty of military schools to send your kids. I blame parents for not making their schools better.

How can they when they are diversified by the government? How do you make a school better when the quality of the students goes down?

"The American Federation of Teachers (AFT) is an American labor union that primarily represents teachers. The union was founded in Chicago in 1916, with Margaret Haley credited as its founder and first leader.[3][4] A precursor to the group, the American Federation of Teachers and Students, was founded in 1900."

The teacher unions have been around for 100 years. If what you say is true, the kids have all been brainwashed, how would you account for all the conservatives that are less than 110 years old?

When your other remarks can be backed up with real sources besides "everybody knows", let us know.

Schools are propaganda mills...

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And just how do you think the kids became liberals? From years of indoctrination in public schools and the real brain washing comes in college. your liberal Union knows they have friend in the democrat, so there political interests (money) greased the dirty politician for unionized votes in the districts.

Three fold front, union to get Union matters passed ( raises, 100% unfunded retirement, free health care ECT.) teach the kids to be good little liberals to vote democrat to support the program, and for higher education grants and studies.

This system been in place for at least 40 years and now paying off big. Along with the uncontrolled illegals and lax voting identification and rules the table has turned all for entitlements. I blame the public school system and college all ran by liberals to keep the agenda going. Parents don't have clue what's going on.

I also have to laugh when you say conservatives are on school boards. Anybody knows that republician or conservative teacher will never advance and will probably be systematically rooted out.
There you go again. Complaining instead of doing something. You are the problem. Send your kids to private school. That will fix it. That way you get to pick the teachers that agree with your philosophy. You could offer your time to change the system or complain. Obviously you like complaining better.

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Actually, what American needs is another civil war. But, that won't happen. Instead, we will continue to get attacked by little Middle Eastern gnats that will continue to show how weak our country has become. The more they hit us, the more PC we will become, in hopes to ward off the big meanie terrorists. Hoping to make them happy with us so that they will leave us alone. We will have to pay "protection/extortion fees" of course. Eventually, the conservative will shake their heads in disgust and leave the liberals to their fate instead of attempting to protect them from themselves.
Trump is the gunslinger that comes to town and the liberals are afraid he might stir up the wrath of the bad guys. Liberals would rather cower in their homes than face up to a bad guy, and they do not want the bad guys to get mad at them when the gunslinger starts cleaning out the infestation.
Sorry liberals, but eventually you will have to wake up and realize that you can NOT talk peace with evil fanatics. They only respect power. They laugh at liberal weakness.

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Actually, what American needs is another civil war. But, that won't happen. Instead, we will continue to get attacked by little Middle Eastern gnats that will continue to show how weak our country has become. The more they hit us, the more PC we will become, in hopes to ward off the big meanie terrorists. Hoping to make them happy with us so that they will leave us alone. We will have to pay "protection/extortion fees" of course. Eventually, the conservative will shake their heads in disgust and leave the liberals to their fate instead of attempting to protect them from themselves.
Trump is the gunslinger that comes to town and the liberals are afraid he might stir up the wrath of the bad guys. Liberals would rather cower in their homes than face up to a bad guy, and they do not want the bad guys to get mad at them when the gunslinger starts cleaning out the infestation.
Sorry liberals, but eventually you will have to wake up and realize that you can NOT talk peace with evil fanatics. They only respect power. They laugh at liberal weakness.

Why is this? Because MOST liberals are women and that's what women do.

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Why is this? Because MOST liberals are women and that's what women do.

Not all liberal men are transgender.....:a20:

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Oh no, climate change is man made? I thought it was described in Genesis in the Bible along with the folk tale of Adam and Eve.

But we all know evolution is not real either. Humans walked around with their pet dinosaurs 6000 years ago and the Grand Canyon was formed in 7 days at the same time of 6000 years ago.

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Oh no, climate change is man made? I thought it was described in Genesis in the Bible along with the folk tale of Adam and Eve.

But we all know evolution is not real either. Humans walked around with their pet dinosaurs 6000 years ago and the Grand Canyon was formed in 7 days at the same time of 6000 years ago.

:popcorn:

You are in the minority of non-believers. That's fine, it's your prerogative. But, why don't you disparage the religion of Islam? Scared, not PC, what?

I don't know where you come up with your idea of how the world was created, especially the part where the Grand Canyon was created. Nothing in the Bible related to the Grand Canyon.

It must make you feel superior to think that you are at the top of the food chain, and there is no one or nothing that you are accountable to. But, at least believers have insurance. If we are wrong, no loss. If we are right, then it is your loss. So, hang out with the minority of non-believers and enjoy your short time in this world. Life is short, so you better not waste it on here. After all, you have no expectations of anything more.

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Oh no, climate change is man made? I thought it was described in Genesis in the Bible along with the folk tale of Adam and Eve.

But we all know evolution is not real either. Humans walked around with their pet dinosaurs 6000 years ago and the Grand Canyon was formed in 7 days at the same time of 6000 years ago.

:popcorn:

Just yesterday some tool was trying to prevoke conversation about "man made global warming". He was asking if we had been to Alaska and seen what is happening. In turn, I asked him if he had been to Colorado, seen the Rocky Mountains and WHO it was that melted the glaciers that created those...he left, in a hurry, mad. LOL:boxing2::boxing2::boxing2:

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Just yesterday some tool was trying to prevoke conversation about "man made global warming". He was asking if we had been to Alaska and seen what is happening. In turn, I asked him if he had been to Colorado, seen the Rocky Mountains and WHO it was that melted the glaciers that created those...he left, in a hurry, mad. LOL:boxing2::boxing2::boxing2:

Really, you should have paid more attention in school. The Rocky Mountains were not created by glaciers. They are the result of plate tectonic action.

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Really, you should have paid more attention in school. The Rocky Mountains were not created by glaciers. They are the result of plate tectonic action.

Little bit of both (but mostly, as you stated) tectonics...glaciers covered the "Great Plains" to the Rocky Mountains...where did they go?

Glacier National Park (U.S.) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glacier_National_Park_%28U.S.%29)

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Climate change is a fact. Man caused climate change is a myth. Pollution is a fact and has been cleaned up substantially in the past 50 years. The air is cleaner in America than it was 50 years ago. It's not climate change you need to worry about, it's liberals making America weak that you need to worry about. The more the gay fad expands in America, the less native born Americans we will have. Then we WILL have to open the borders, just to get some normal people into our country. And if we get a libtard president like Killary in the White House, we will lose our means to protect ourselves (gun control) and there will be more murders. The only plus in that, is that most of the murders will be liberals offing other liberals, which are takers rather than contributors. So, maybe it would be nice if climate change would speed up and put mankind out of it's lazy misery.

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Just yesterday some tool was trying to prevoke conversation about "man made global warming". He was asking if we had been to Alaska and seen what is happening. In turn, I asked him if he had been to Colorado, seen the Rocky Mountains and WHO it was that melted the glaciers that created those...he left, in a hurry, mad. LOL:boxing2::boxing2::boxing2:
"The natural cycle is understood by examining the paleo records. The fact that the earth goes in and out of ice ages distinctly outlines the natural cycles of Earth's climate. This occurs about every 100,000 years. We are currently in a warm period. Generally, Earth spends about 80-90,000 years in an ice age and around 10-20,000 years (or so) in a warm period."

The argument is that 10,000 years ago the earth was at its warmest. It was cooling down to an ice age, and as pointed out earlier this takes 80-90,000 years until 1750. Then it started warming up again unnaturally. The question is why would the earth warm up and cool down for millions of years on a regular cycle until 1750?

I met someone who is convinced because when he was little the summers were extra hot and the winters were extra cold just like now. He thinks the earth's natural cycle is 50 years long not 100,000 years long.

[and the Grand Canyon was formed by a river that flowed through it wore out the inside and bottom. it took 17 million years to look like that. a hundred years from now it will look the same but 50 years ago Alaska looked differently. why?]

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Was it Al Gore who was saying "pig flatulence" was causing global warming? All I know, when my grandfather went to school...it was uphill both ways, under the blazing sun while trotting in the snow frost bitten and sun burnt...barefoot. Oh, and he liked it....

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The ice at the poles is getting thicker. So, I guess climate change is going in the direction of cooling down now. Guess we need to burn more fossil fuels to warm it back up. :)

But, who cares? The fact that schools are banning text books that do not agree with them, is criminal.

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But, who cares? The fact that schools are banning text books that do not agree with them, is criminal.


What would be classy, they need to burn the books that they dont agree with after soaking them in crude oil...;)

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What would be classy, they need to burn the books that they dont agree with after soaking them in crude oil...;)

Wasn't it the Nazis that burned all the books?

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It's not climate change you need to worry about, it's liberals making America weak that you need to worry about. The more the gay fad expands in America, the less native born Americans we will have. Then we WILL have to open the borders, just to get some normal people into our country. And if we get a libtard president like Killary in the White House, we will lose our means to protect ourselves (gun control) and there will be more murders. The only plus in that, is that most of the murders will be liberals offing other liberals, which are takers rather than contributors. So, maybe it would be nice if climate change would speed up and put mankind out of it's lazy misery.

We already opened up our borders because white people weren't having enough kids to keep the population growing to support government.

Look at the result, minorities are the majority from age 6 down. We're done for, gonna be part of Mexico soon.

The climate will change, that is certain.

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Wasn't it the Nazis that burned all the books?

They burned porn mostly...and "propaganda" books. Not much else. The book burning is highly exaggerated. A LOT is highly exaggerated. Remember, the winners literally write history...their way.

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They burned porn mostly...and "propaganda" books. Not much else. The book burning is highly exaggerated. A LOT is highly exaggerated. Remember, the winners literally write history...their way.

Yes, we have seen how history has been distorted in the past 8 years. It appears that you are also distorting history to make Hillary look more excusable. Don't worry, you won't have her embarrassment around much longer.

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They burned porn mostly...and "propaganda" books. Not much else. The book burning is highly exaggerated. A LOT is highly exaggerated. Remember, the winners literally write history...their way.

No, NOT "porn mostly." Nice try. Go back and read the list of books that were banned/burned.

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No, NOT "porn mostly." Nice try. Go back and read the list of books that were banned/burned.

All of the following types of literature were to be banned.
The works of traitors, emigrants and authors from foreign countries who believe they can attack and denigrate the new Germany (H.G. Wells, Rolland);
The literature of Marxism, Communism and Bolshevism;
Pacifist literature;
Literature with liberal, democratic tendencies and attitudes, and writings supporting the Weimar Republic (Rathenau, Heinrich Mann);
All historical writings whose purpose is to denigrate the origin, the spirit and the culture of the German Volk, or to dissolve the racial and structural order of the Volk, or that denies the force and importance of leading historical figures in favor of egalitarianism and the masses, and which seeks to drag them through the mud (Emil Ludwig);
Writings of a philosophical and social nature whose content deals with the false scientific enlightenment of primitive Darwinism and Monism (Hackel, Benedict);
Books that advocate “art” which is decadent, bloodless, or purely constructivist (Grosz, Dix, Bauhaus, Mendelsohn);
Writings on sexuality and sexual education which serve the egocentric pleasure of the individual and thus, completely destroy the principles of race and Volk (Hirschfeld);
The decadent, destructive and Volk-damaging writings of “Asphalt and Civilization” literati: (Graf, H. Mann, Stefan Zweig, Wassermann, Franz Blei);
Literature by Jewish authors, regardless of the field;
Popular entertainment literature that depicts life and life’s goals in a superficial, unrealistic and sickly sweet manner, based on a bourgeois or upper class view of life;
Nationalistic and patriotic kitsch in literature.
Pornography and explicit literature by Jewish authors.
All books degrading German purity.


[not for nothing---but some of these books i can see some of the other posters burning in lake sumter, after happy hour]

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They burned porn mostly...and "propaganda" books. Not much else. The book burning is highly exaggerated. A LOT is highly exaggerated. Remember, the winners literally write history...their way.


You are correct! History is written by the victors. Not many are cognizant of that. :bigbow:

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Yes, we have seen how history has been distorted in the past 8 years. It appears that you are also distorting history to make Hillary look more excusable. Don't worry, you won't have her embarrassment around much longer.

We cant say that, yet. Intelligence is not a requirement to vote. If I had my way there would be minimum income requirements for able bodied persons to vote.

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You are correct! History is written by the victors. Not many are cognizant of that. :bigbow:It's common knowledge. They have been teaching critical thinking skills for many, many years. Look at the end of any chapter in a text book for additional resources and extra assignments.

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An interesting article on the Climate change scam:

Three Facts Prove Climate Alarm Is a Scam (http://nws.mx/1TVikGa)

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An interesting article on the Climate change scam:

Three Facts Prove Climate Alarm Is a Scam (http://nws.mx/1TVikGa)Here is a quote from Fact 1:
"Based upon the most reliable land surface data (UK Hadley Center, or “HADCRUT”), the average annual planetary warming between 1850 and 2015 is virtually imperceptible . . . and certainly not “dangerous.”"

This is what the UK Hadley Center says about Global Warming:
"Greenhouse gas increase

There's overwhelming and growing evidence that the warming is due to vastly increased - and still increasing - quantities of greenhouse gas in the atmosphere.

The most important greenhouse gas, in that it has the strongest greenhouse effect, is water vapour. It increases in concentration as the atmosphere warms. The amount of water vapour in the atmosphere has increased, but there's no reason for this scale of change other than the increase in temperature."

Why is our climate changing? - Met Office (http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate-guide/climate-change/why)

Newsmax Media, commonly called Newsmax, is a conservative[1] American news media organization founded by Christopher Ruddy and based in West Palm Beach, Florida. It operates the news website Newsmax.com, publishes the Franklin Prosperity Report and Newsmax magazine, and runs a conservative cable news channel Newsmax TV. [wikipedia]

Why is it in the best interest of Energy Companies and Manufacturing Companies to deny global warning? Who owns those companies?

Why is Global Warning the consensus of scientists? Look at the list NASA put together. You know these groups.
http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

Are they all biased too? What is their agenda?

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The question is...how much do we contribute...and what kind of lifestyle do you want?

ARE we really contributing to warming? I've seen the time lapse of glaciers receding, so it seems to be true that the planet is warming. But how much is our doing?

Second, do we want to live 1sr world? 2nd? Or 3rd?

Come to think about it...we'll be 3rd world within 30 years due to demographics anyway. So, the whole discussion is moot. Humans won't be creating much CO2 much longer as the world becomes 3rd world.

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The question is...how much do we contribute...and what kind of lifestyle do you want?

ARE we really contributing to warming? I've seen the time lapse of glaciers receding, so it seems to be true that the planet is warming. But how much is our doing?

Second, do we want to live 1sr world? 2nd? Or 3rd?

Come to think about it...we'll be 3rd world within 30 years due to demographics anyway. So, the whole discussion is moot. Humans won't be creating much CO2 much longer as the world becomes 3rd world.your agenda--we know it

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your agenda--we know it

I'll stop repeating it when you FINALLY realize the importance...some are slower than others...others too busy to care...we should all care.

EVERY town is getting seedier and more dangerous because the demographics ARE changing.

At least acknowledge the problem, better yet, spread the word and try to stop it. Do you want to idly stand by as your country is lost? Turns into Mexico II?

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I'll stop repeating it when you FINALLY realize the importance...some are slower than others...others too busy to care...we should all care.

EVERY town is getting seedier and more dangerous because the demographics ARE changing.

At least acknowledge the problem, better yet, spread the word and try to stop it. Do you want to idly stand by as your country is lost? Turns into Mexico II?your agenda--we know it

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I'll stop repeating it when you FINALLY realize the importance...some are slower than others...others too busy to care...we should all care.

EVERY town is getting seedier and more dangerous because the demographics ARE changing.

At least acknowledge the problem, better yet, spread the word and try to stop it. Do you want to idly stand by as your country is lost? Turns into Mexico II?

Tell us who you have doing your yard work? Are they displaced Vikings of pure Nordic stock?

Have you seen the busboys or dishwashers at your favourite restaurant? Are they Canadians?

Ah, finally, the PGA is taking the World Golf Championship from Miami to Mexico City. I love that one!

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Tell us who you have doing your yard work? Are they displaced Vikings of pure Nordic stock?

Have you seen the busboys or dishwashers at your favourite restaurant? Are they Canadians?

Ah, finally, the PGA is taking the World Golf Championship from Miami to Mexico City. I love that one!

So you admit they're only good at menial labor and undercutting the entry level jobs young people and other native minorities could/should be doing?

Let them. Let them cut off their nose to spite their face. A few kidnappings. Some robberies. Rapes. They'll learn. Hopefully we will too when we realize that THAT is is our future.

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Funny how temperature does not count when measuring global warming.....??????? Some folks make a lot of money on the whole scam.

By the way, the ice caps are getting thicker. Is that caused by warming???

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Funny how temperature does not count when measuring global warming.....??????? Some folks make a lot of money on the whole scam.

By the way, the ice caps are getting thicker. Is that caused by warming???Are you a scientist?
good reading
Forbes Welcome (http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2015/05/19/updated-nasa-data-polar-ice-not-receding-after-all/#5fdc802932da)

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Are you a scientist?
good reading
Forbes Welcome (http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2015/05/19/updated-nasa-data-polar-ice-not-receding-after-all/#5fdc802932da)

I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express...

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I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express...That was pretty clever.

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Science textbooks must impart to the student the ability to challenge conventional "knowledge" and not blindly accept doctrine. Attempts to eliminate information on climate non-change deprives the student of this skill. It is also important that the school textbook include information on the benefits of tobacco, on the controversy about the shape of the globe and whether the sun circles the earth or the opposite. Teach the controversy, stop the dam liberal attempt to indoctrinate the students by withholding balanced information.

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Science textbooks must impart to the student the ability to challenge conventional "knowledge" and not blindly accept doctrine. Attempts to eliminate information on climate non-change deprives the student of this skill. It is also important that the school textbook include information on the benefits of tobacco, on the controversy about the shape of the globe and whether the sun circles the earth or the opposite. Teach the controversy, stop the dam liberal attempt to indoctrinate the students by withholding balanced information.

Better yet, stop the libtards from withholding the truth, perverting facts to their agenda.

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Science textbooks must impart to the student the ability to challenge conventional "knowledge" and not blindly accept doctrine. Attempts to eliminate information on climate non-change deprives the student of this skill. It is also important that the school textbook include information on the benefits of tobacco, on the controversy about the shape of the globe and whether the sun circles the earth or the opposite. Teach the controversy, stop the dam liberal attempt to indoctrinate the students by withholding balanced information.

Better yet, stop the libtards from withholding the truth, perverting facts to their agenda.

Exactly! Equality is a myth... Diversity destroys...

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Science textbooks must impart to the student the ability to challenge conventional "knowledge" and not blindly accept doctrine. Attempts to eliminate information on climate non-change deprives the student of this skill. It is also important that the school textbook include information on the benefits of tobacco, on the controversy about the shape of the globe and whether the sun circles the earth or the opposite. Teach the controversy, stop the dam liberal attempt to indoctrinate the students by withholding balanced information.

But that's the thing...their agenda falls apart when other positions are introduced. No thinking person with all the facts would agree with MOST of the current myths/policies we "take for granted as true".

The hard sciences, you can often teach the controversy because there is no agenda to keep the earth at the center of the universe, the earth is flat.

But when you get into areas where there IS a push for a certain direction...climate change...then they DON'T want you armed with too much knowledge.

In the social arena...it's a free for all. Nobody knows anything (other than how to manipulate people) for sure. Yet there are a plethora of opinions. Here too, there are "truths" and that is ALL that is taught/tolerated.

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But that's the thing...their agenda falls apart when other positions are introduced. No thinking person with all the facts would agree with MOST of the current myths/policies we "take for granted as true".

The hard sciences, you can often teach the controversy because there is no agenda to keep the earth at the center of the universe, the earth is flat.

But when you get into areas where there IS a push for a certain direction...climate change...then they DON'T want you armed with too much knowledge.

In the social arena...it's a free for all. Nobody knows anything (other than how to manipulate people) for sure. Yet there are a plethora of opinions. Here too, there are "truths" and that is ALL that is taught/tolerated.You don't know what goes on in the classroom because you haven't been in one for more then 50 years. Critical thinking skills are taught at a very early age.

Critical thinking is not a position. The first time your child asks if there really is a tooth fairy or Santa Claus it's a critical thinking skill. The answer makes them wonder about the Bible, Jesus and diversity. This can upset older people who want a world of "do what you are told".

Who is doing the manipulating and who is teaching children why it's intelligent to challenge? That's how you make scientists, inventors and trouble shooters.

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Who is doing the manipulating and who is teaching children why it's intelligent to challenge? That's how you make scientists, inventors and trouble shooters.

And, everyone gets a trophy, all black kids...able or not move to the next grade. As long as you think your answer in math is correct and the US is almost LAST on the planet in basic math, reading and science skills....

Someone needs to beat Obama around for a while in an alley for what he has done to this country (and his black brethren for that matter).

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US is almost LAST on the planet in basic math, reading and science skills....Show me--

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And, everyone gets a trophy, able or not move to the next grade.

Just like your ignorant kids did! They had to be retarded coming from a sperm donor like you.

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Show me--


You can deny it all you want. I however would never ever let my kids go to a public school. They, simply are for suckers.


In 2011, just 32% were rated proficient or better, while a third were rated “basic” (indicating partial mastery of the material) and 35% were below basic.


http://www.pewresearch.org/files/2015/01/STEM_pisa.png

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You don't know what goes on in the classroom because you haven't been in one for more then 50 years. Critical thinking skills are taught at a very early age.

Critical thinking is not a position. The first time your child asks if there really is a tooth fairy or Santa Claus it's a critical thinking skill. The answer makes them wonder about the Bible, Jesus and diversity. This can upset older people who want a world of "do what you are told".

Who is doing the manipulating and who is teaching children why it's intelligent to challenge? That's how you make scientists, inventors and trouble shooters.

Yes, 50 years for me, 30 for my kids, and now my grandchildren. They're "taught" WHAT to think, NOT how to think. They're taught that equality and diversity are perfect, or WILL be once the old codgers are dead.

I don't know why they tell their kids lies either. Diversity being good IS a lie but we're told it's true.

You make scientists, inventors and trouble shooters, by letting the better, smarter kids and people have the positions and slots they qualified for and don't give it to someone because of a quota or affirmative action.

And, everyone gets a trophy, all black kids...able or not move to the next grade. As long as you think your answer in math is correct and the US is almost LAST on the planet in basic math, reading and science skills....

Someone needs to beat Obama around for a while in an alley for what he has done to this country (and his black brethren for that matter).

We're all "special" but some are more special than others.

We're not last yet...but we're...well...see below.

Show me--

Google US world rankings. You should get some lists.

"Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development 2009 Programme for International Student Assessment, ranked 31 of 74 in mathematics, 23 of 74 in science, 17 of 74 in reading[5]"

International rankings of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_rankings_of_the_United_States)

Just like your ignorant kids did! They had to be retarded coming from a sperm donor like you.

The problem with stupid people...they're so stupid, they don't realize they're stupid. That's the best you got? No facts to disprove ANYTHING said? You make it too easy. Not too empathetic towards those born less fortunate than yourself, those with disabilities? How can you think you're ANY different than those you detest?

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Just like your ignorant kids did! They had to be retarded coming from a sperm donor like you.


Well, your right. My son who is an Orthopedic Trauma Surgeon is always fighting with my younger son who is a US Marine pilot flying from aboard USS Ronald Reagan, all over who got the lower end of the gene spectrum.

Nether spent a day in a public school. Nor, had any time for most public school children (other than tutoring some of them in basic math so that they could maybe score an average score on the SAT).

Really, we feel bad for them like we do a duckling stuck in an oil spill.

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You can deny it all you want. I however would never ever let my kids go to a public school. They, simply are for suckers.



The IQ order... Asians...whites...others a DISTANT 3rd.

You can't argue with reality. The test of the real world proves it too. Make ANY list and Asians and whites come out on top. There IS a difference between the racial groups. Mixing us all together into an inferior mulatto isn't going to fix anything.

The "black countries" didn't even make it on the list, many don't even HAVE universities! Get with it people...open up your eyes...is this the future you want for your grandkids?

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Well, your right. My son who is an Orthopedic Trauma Surgeon is always fighting with my younger son who is a US Marine pilot flying from aboard USS Ronald Reagan, all over who got the lower end of the gene spectrum.

Nether spent a day in a public school. Nor, had any time for most public school children (other than tutoring some of them in basic math so that they could maybe score an average score on the SAT).

Really, we feel bad for them like we do a duckling stuck in an oil spill.

The public schools are full of dregs. The students are the problem. As usual, a small percent...minority...cause the trouble.

Yes, it's unfortunate they were born with the genes they have, but so is an animal limited by their genes.

They ARE like a poor duck caught in an oil spill. They are hopelessly lost. No way out without help.

The country IS lost if something isn't done quickly to stem the new minority baby boom that will change America a LOT more than the last baby boom did.

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Well, your right. My son who is an Orthopedic Trauma Surgeon is always fighting with my younger son who is a US Marine pilot flying from aboard USS Ronald Reagan, all over who got the lower end of the gene spectrum.

Nether spent a day in a public school. Nor, had any time for most public school children (other than tutoring some of them in basic math so that they could maybe score an average score on the SAT).

Really, we feel bad for them like we do a duckling stuck in an oil spill.

Yeah, like anyone believes those blatent lies about your ignorant spawn. 'fess up the truth about them. Sleeping in the spare bedroom of your house and getting food from the Wildwood Food Pantry is more like it.

Now, just shut your pie hole.

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Yeah, like anyone believes those blatent lies about your ignorant spawn. 'fess up the truth about them. Sleeping in the spare bedroom of your house and getting food from the Wildwood Food Pantry is more like it.

Now, just shut your pie hole.Let me guess. You are an Orthopedic Trauma Surgeon and his remarks do not speak for all Orthopedic Trauma Surgeons.

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"The American Federation of Teachers (AFT) is an American labor union that primarily represents teachers. The union was founded in Chicago in 1916, with Margaret Haley credited as its founder and first leader.[3][4] A precursor to the group, the American Federation of Teachers and Students, was founded in 1900."

The teacher unions have been around for 100 years. If what you say is true, the kids have all been brainwashed, how would you account for all the conservatives that are less than 110 years old?

When your other remarks can be backed up with real sources besides "everybody knows", let us know.


Come on No under the table plan in stone. the unions got orginizer, certain democrats greased, who could scratch each others back, and took decades to build and indoctrination voting base which really took to message in the early 70s. Or late 70s.

Good example was the republician teachers who didn't want they're union dues going to democrat party. I bet they are outcast now. Systematic forced out?

If you can find republican teacher in metro area ask them? No buddy buddy system is written down.

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Come on No under the table plan in stone. the unions got orginizer, certain democrats greased, who could scratch each others back, and took decades to build and indoctrination voting base which really took to message in the early 70s. Or late 70s.

Good example was the republician teachers who didn't want they're union dues going to democrat party. I bet they are outcast now. Systematic forced out?

If you can find republican teacher in metro area ask them? No buddy buddy system is written down.You pay your dues and you are in the union. You are not require to be in the union. You vote the way you want.

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I just saw the older posts. This place in an embassament. I know it's the only game in town. I hope I can find someplace like this with people who are a bit more centered. If it's only a couple, that's a tragedy for the rest of the group.