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Guest
05-25-2016, 06:27 PM
Hillary Clinton failed to report several hacking attempts: IG - Washington Times (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/25/hillary-clinton-failed-report-several-hacking-atte/)
"The 83-page report, obtained by The Washington Times, is devastating in its evaluation of Mrs. Clinton’s behavior, saying it can find no record of her getting approval from either security or legal staffers for her unique arrangement. The report also undercuts many of her campaign’s explanations for her use of the system, dismisses comparisons to her predecessors’ email use, and points to repeated hacking attempts that she failed to report."
Can't wait to see the FBI investigation report. Of course, I am not living under the delusion that the AG will prosecute. Obama's AG.
Guest
05-25-2016, 07:14 PM
There could be similar reports by 10 different independent Federal Agencies and the current AG will just yawn and ignore them all .
After all this is a " Clinton " we are speaking of and they are " Special " one of our " Betters " .
Guest
05-25-2016, 08:11 PM
There could be similar reports by 10 different independent Federal Agencies and the current AG will just yawn and ignore them all .
After all this is a " Clinton " we are speaking of and they are " Special " one of our " Betters " .
I hope this country hasn't sunk that low.
Guest
05-25-2016, 08:18 PM
"While political opponents of Hillary Clinton are sure to misrepresent this report for their own partisan purposes, in reality, the Inspector General documents just how consistent her email practices were with those of other secretaries and senior officials at the State Department who also used personal email," said Brian Fallon, Clinton's national press secretary. "Contrary to the false theories advanced for some time now, the report notes that her use of personal email was known to officials within the Department during her tenure, and that there is no evidence of any successful breach of the Secretary's server." Clinton Email Report Changes Few Minds | US News (http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-05-25/clinton-email-report-changes-few-minds)
Guest
05-25-2016, 08:23 PM
"While political opponents of Hillary Clinton are sure to misrepresent this report for their own partisan purposes, in reality, the Inspector General documents just how consistent her email practices were with those of other secretaries and senior officials at the State Department who also used personal email," said Brian Fallon, Clinton's national press secretary. "Contrary to the false theories advanced for some time now, the report notes that her use of personal email was known to officials within the Department during her tenure, and that there is no evidence of any successful breach of the Secretary's server." Clinton Email Report Changes Few Minds | US News (http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-05-25/clinton-email-report-changes-few-minds)
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Guest
05-25-2016, 09:01 PM
Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha !!! :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1 rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
When they do get to the bottom of this will it be like Watergate?
Guest
05-25-2016, 10:00 PM
Hillary-gate !
Guest
05-26-2016, 04:36 AM
"While political opponents of Hillary Clinton are sure to misrepresent this report for their own partisan purposes, in reality, the Inspector General documents just how consistent her email practices were with those of other secretaries and senior officials at the State Department who also used personal email," said Brian Fallon, Clinton's national press secretary. "Contrary to the false theories advanced for some time now, the report notes that her use of personal email was known to officials within the Department during her tenure, and that there is no evidence of any successful breach of the Secretary's server." Clinton Email Report Changes Few Minds | US News (http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-05-25/clinton-email-report-changes-few-minds)
Your correct. :BigApplause:
Guest
05-26-2016, 06:05 AM
"While political opponents of Hillary Clinton are sure to misrepresent this report for their own partisan purposes, in reality, the Inspector General documents just how consistent her email practices were with those of other secretaries and senior officials at the State Department who also used personal email," said Brian Fallon, Clinton's national press secretary. "Contrary to the false theories advanced for some time now, the report notes that her use of personal email was known to officials within the Department during her tenure, and that there is no evidence of any successful breach of the Secretary's server." Clinton Email Report Changes Few Minds | US News (http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-05-25/clinton-email-report-changes-few-minds)
So, pretty much everyone in high level positions are breaking security laws?
Get rid of all of them.
Guest
05-26-2016, 09:10 AM
"While political opponents of Hillary Clinton are sure to misrepresent this report for their own partisan purposes, in reality, the Inspector General documents just how consistent her email practices were with those of other secretaries and senior officials at the State Department who also used personal email," said Brian Fallon, Clinton's national press secretary. "Contrary to the false theories advanced for some time now, the report notes that her use of personal email was known to officials within the Department during her tenure, and that there is no evidence of any successful breach of the Secretary's server." Clinton Email Report Changes Few Minds | US News (http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-05-25/clinton-email-report-changes-few-minds)
That's a nice cover up, but anyone with personal knowledge of the job and procedures, knows that they are blowing smoke. NO ONE HAD PERSONAL EMAIL SERVERS, and no one transmitted sensitive or classified information over the unsecure Internet. I know of the equipment that the SecState uses when they travel, and it is NOT the Internet. I have set up communications for Rice and Powell when they visited in several countries. I even traveled to other countries TDY to assist in setting up their secure/encrypted systems. I have personally met and assisted Powell with his secure system and Powell is/was very tech savy. He was responsible for bringing our systems up to 21st century standards.
So, when they try to tell you that these other VIPs used the Internet, they are blowing smoke. Yes, they used it for non-sensitive business. They used the same system, called the OPENNET that the local hires and uncleared Americans use when they work for the State Dept. Classified information is not transmitted on the same communication system as non-sensitive information and has to be physically moved via a disk or thumbdrive from one system to the other system in order to transmit it. The disk or drive used in the secure system is not even allowed to be interchanged with the two systems. This violation had to be done purposely and planned. This is not just a matter of deleting emails from the unclassified system without authorization. This is blatant misuse of they system, putting American national security at risk.
For Hillary to compare herself with other decent Secstates is despicable to put it politely, and dishonest. Hillary Clinton jeopardized our national security, regardless of her motivation. And she has no excuse because like everyone else hired by the State Dept. she was given training in our communications and she signed the documentation saying so.
If Hillary suggests that she was ignorant, why in the world would anyone want her in charge of our country?
Guest
05-26-2016, 09:29 AM
Was "her use of personal email was known to officials within the Department during her tenure"?
Was her use of a personal email server known to officials within the Department during her tenure?
Guest
05-26-2016, 09:38 AM
Was "her use of personal email was known to officials within the Department during her tenure"?
Was her use of a personal email server known to officials within the Department during her tenure?
????????????? What officials are you speaking of, her boss...Obummer? She knew what she was doing was against regulations and probably the law, but did it anyway. Any simpleton knows that you have classification levels for a reason and they are meant to be safeguarded. She is a nasty scumbag that should be charged with treason. The bad part of this is that she made her employees accomplices.
Guest
05-26-2016, 09:57 AM
????????????? What officials are you speaking of, her boss...Obummer? You will need to ask Brian Fallon, Clinton's national press secretary. I was quoting him. It's hard to follow along if you don't read the articles that are linked in the thread.
Guest
05-26-2016, 11:07 AM
You will need to ask Brian Fallon, Clinton's national press secretary. I was quoting him. It's hard to follow along if you don't read the articles that are linked in the thread.
You were not clear. I read the article before there were any replies, but did not see why you repeated the line twice in your post.
Guest
05-26-2016, 11:57 AM
You were not clear. I read the article before there were any replies, but did not see why you repeated the line twice in your post.I didn't repeat the line twice.
Was "her use of personal email was known to officials within the Department during her tenure"?
Was her use of a personal email server known to officials within the Department during her tenure?
The first line is a quote. " "
The second line is my question about her server.
Guest
05-26-2016, 01:59 PM
I didn't repeat the line twice.
Was "her use of personal email was known to officials within the Department during her tenure"?
Was her use of a personal email server known to officials within the Department during her tenure?
The first line is a quote. " "
The second line is my question about her server.
Why would that matter? If she knows the law and the regs, and she deliberately or negligently ignores this, does she have an excuse if she can claim "well they knew I was doing it" ?
No one is going to admit that they knew she was breaking federal law, by making themselves complicit in her wrong doing.
Guest
05-28-2016, 04:00 PM
Why is there no discussion regarding the individuals who sent post-classified emails to her. Could it be they are not running for the Democratic nomination and there is no political gain to be had?
Guest
05-28-2016, 04:26 PM
Concerning this issue I believe whatever any Progressive might post on this site .
Guest
05-28-2016, 04:27 PM
Concerning this issue I believe whatever any Progressive might post on this site .Me too.
Guest
05-28-2016, 04:37 PM
Me 3 ! I ALWAYS believe 100% of whatever the Dem Party , the NY Times , CBS , NBC and ABC have to say about any and all issues .
Guest
05-28-2016, 04:47 PM
Her's all you really need:
go ahead and take a look at the rankings.
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Guest
05-28-2016, 04:55 PM
Her's all you really need:
go ahead and take a look at the rankings.
1) Fox News: 260
2) Wall Street Journal: 383
3) The Drudge Report: 748
4) New York Post: 888
5) WorldNetDaily: 2,692
6) Newsmax: 3,264
7) Free Republic: 3,988
8) The Washington Times: 4,717
9) TownHall: 5,986
10) The Rush Limbaugh Show: 7,624
11) Real Clear Politics: 7,957
12) National Review: 10,346
13) Hot Air: 11,517
14) Michelle Malkin: 12,871
15) Glenn Beck: 13,153
16) Human Events Online: 17,538
17) The Heritage Foundation: 20,746
18) Newsbusters: 21,452
19) Lew Rockwell: 24,677
20) The Weekly Standard: 25,565
21) News With Views: 27,352
22) Sean Hannity: 28,086
23) Pajamas Media 28,969
24) The Ludwig von Mises Institute: 29,116
25) Atlas Shrugs: 29,548
26) The American Thinker: 29,980
27) Cybercast News Service: 32,348
28) Neal Boortz: 32,857
29) Reason: 33,254
30) Lucianne: 34,135
31) Ann Coulter 36,864
32) The Cato Journal: 39,187
33) Daily Paul: 41,465
34) The Volokh Conspiracy: 42,021
35) Bill O’Reilly: 42,533
36) Redstate: 42,655
37) Conservapedia: 43,866
38) Power Line: 44,542
39) Jewish World Review: 44,765
40) Front Page Magazine: 48,645
41) Daniel Pipes: 49,692
42) Little Green Footballs: 49,844
43) Campaign for Liberty: 50,638
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45) Commentary: 55,447
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57) Dick Morris: 77,187
58) Blackfive: 83,031
59) Outside the Beltway: 83,455
60) American Conservative: 90,579
I have always found #41 Mr. Daniel Pipes to be an excellent resource of true and accurate reporting and insight . More people should embrace his thoughts .
Guest
05-28-2016, 05:27 PM
I have always found #41 Mr. Daniel Pipes to be an excellent resource of true and accurate reporting and insight . More people should embrace his thoughts .me too
Guest
05-28-2016, 05:52 PM
me too
Me Three ! He is 100% unbiased and insightful .:highfive:
Guest
05-28-2016, 07:13 PM
Why is there no discussion regarding the individuals who sent post-classified emails to her. Could it be they are not running for the Democratic nomination and there is no political gain to be had?
The point is that she was the Secstate and broke the law. What her minions did was also against the law, even though she ordered them to break the law. What will make or break her is whether or not they can protect Obama from the fall out since he was also privy to her "classified" emails. They may clear her just to keep Obama from being complicit.
Guest
05-28-2016, 07:27 PM
The point is that she was the Secstate and broke the law. What her minions did was also against the law, even though she ordered them to break the law. What will make or break her is whether or not they can protect Obama from the fall out since he was also privy to her "classified" emails. They may clear her just to keep Obama from being complicit.
I think they need to prove malicious intent.
Guest
05-28-2016, 07:34 PM
" They " do not have to prove that there was anything " malicious " . It is sufficient to find impropriety by demonstrating an " intent " to bend or break the rules . IE a " work around " the system is not permitted no matter the intent .
Guest
05-28-2016, 07:50 PM
" They " do not have to prove that there was anything " malicious " . It is sufficient to find impropriety by demonstrating an " intent " to bend or break the rules . IE a " work around " the system is not permitted no matter the intent .
As a person that formerly worked with ALL communications, classified and unclassified for the State Dept. I can tell you that you are totally correct. There is no "malicious" required at all. The mere fact that classified information was transmitted on an unsecured system, whether marked or not, was a felony. And I would say that there is "implied" intent when you have to physically take that classified information out of a secured area to put it into a work station that is open to the Internet.
Hillary also knew that all ambassador travel itineraries were classified and she put it on the Internet.
Hillary also knew that using a cell phone or blackberry, etc in a secure area is breaking the law too. And she was witnessed doing that on several occasions.
I can only guess at why she has not been charged. And my guess would be that they are trying to cover the POTUS.
Guest
05-28-2016, 07:51 PM
Officials: Scant evidence that Clinton had malicious intent in handling of emails - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/federal-prosecutors-in-virginia-assisting-in-clinton-email-probe/2016/05/05/f0277faa-12f0-11e6-81b4-581a5c4c42df_story.html)
Guest
05-28-2016, 07:53 PM
I wonder if the Director of the FBI will resign if the AG fails to indict her .
Guest
05-29-2016, 02:33 AM
Officials: Scant evidence that Clinton had malicious intent in handling of emails - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/federal-prosecutors-in-virginia-assisting-in-clinton-email-probe/2016/05/05/f0277faa-12f0-11e6-81b4-581a5c4c42df_story.html)
A reporter is not a subject matter expert. A liberal rag is not credible to give an unbiased opinion.
NO MALICE is required to have broken the law. But, she did have intent as evidence is in her emails to her minions, instructing them to remover classification marking before sending them to her. Even then, intent would not be necessary. The fact that classified information was removed from a secure network and distributed via a non-secure network is evidence of a broken law.
WP suggests that a hacker that plead guilty of hacking into her system/server didn't really do it, is ludicrous.
But, you liberals keep believing in republican conspiracies and UFOs and misuse your privilege to vote by voting for another radical, criminal in this case. Also a liar and a thief, as well as a tax fraud.
Guest
05-29-2016, 05:34 AM
A reporter is not a subject matter expert. A liberal rag is not credible to give an unbiased opinion.
NO MALICE is required to have broken the law. But, she did have intent as evidence is in her emails to her minions, instructing them to remover classification marking before sending them to her. Even then, intent would not be necessary. The fact that classified information was removed from a secure network and distributed via a non-secure network is evidence of a broken law.
WP suggests that a hacker that plead guilty of hacking into her system/server didn't really do it, is ludicrous.
But, you liberals keep believing in republican conspiracies and UFOs and misuse your privilege to vote by voting for another radical, criminal in this case. Also a liar and a thief, as well as a tax fraud.
ALL the D and R politicians are liars, thieves, and tax evaders.
Guest
05-29-2016, 05:56 AM
ALL the D and R politicians are liars, thieves, and tax evaders.
And you probably are also. If you are going to generalize, don't forget to be inclusive.
Guest
05-29-2016, 06:45 AM
With party control of 99% of ALL fed gov. Agencies the cover up and systematic erasing of electronic trail has be going on for couple years. This happened first with clintons and her AIDS having 9 months or more to erase files from the server probably with help from the server.
This IMO why she when around fed gov. Secure record keeping sites securing her business from history record keeping and have the ability to remove it.
As far as Obama link? This has been erased the first 9 months before she had to turn over her server for hearings. Any other business or agency under suspension information would of been seized immediately. Not giving the suspected criminal 9 months to doctor or easy files.
Now, this next guestions are will the democratic controlled federal agencies have guts to go after there next head pulpit? IMO I doubt it, that's why it's being dragged out to hide and cover up the evidence. Department heads will be sacrificed as before with no crimes charged and will probably be promoted!
Guest
05-29-2016, 08:09 AM
And you probably are also. If you are going to generalize, don't forget to be inclusive.
No, and I'm also not trying to control people and take their money.
Guest
05-29-2016, 10:42 AM
ALL the D and R politicians are liars, thieves, and tax evaders.
Progressive Handbook Rule Number 3 :
When the debate becomes too close to the truth then generalize and change the argument . :a040:
Guest
05-29-2016, 11:06 AM
Progressive Handbook Rule Number 3 :
When the debate becomes too close to the truth then generalize and change the argument . :a040:"Not all progressives are liberal
Progressivism is a problem-solving method. Historians generally date Progressive Era as 1890-1920, but the progressive method did not end with that date. The progressive method is not an ideology but a pragmatic search for solutions that work, grounded in a healthy skepticism. Thus, for example, Prohibition was a progressive project and was based on the social science of that era, but “The Great Experiment” of Prohibition failed in practice and progressives also worked for its repeal. The 20th century can reasonably be summarized as the rise and spread of the progressive method."
would you agree?
Guest
05-29-2016, 11:17 AM
A reporter is not a subject matter expert. A liberal rag is not credible to give an unbiased opinion.
NO MALICE is required to have broken the law. But, she did have intent as evidence is in her emails to her minions, instructing them to remover classification marking before sending them to her. Even then, intent would not be necessary. The fact that classified information was removed from a secure network and distributed via a non-secure network is evidence of a broken law.
WP suggests that a hacker that plead guilty of hacking into her system/server didn't really do it, is ludicrous.
But, you liberals keep believing in republican conspiracies and UFOs and misuse your privilege to vote by voting for another radical, criminal in this case. Also a liar and a thief, as well as a tax fraud.off topic but you have the expertise
How did Snowden have access to top secrets? As a system admin? Are there thousands of system admins working as contractors? Is the security on par with 2015 technology or more like 2000 technology?
Guest
05-29-2016, 12:05 PM
"Not all progressives are liberal
Progressivism is a problem-solving method. Historians generally date Progressive Era as 1890-1920, but the progressive method did not end with that date. The progressive method is not an ideology but a pragmatic search for solutions that work, grounded in a healthy skepticism. Thus, for example, Prohibition was a progressive project and was based on the social science of that era, but “The Great Experiment” of Prohibition failed in practice and progressives also worked for its repeal. The 20th century can reasonably be summarized as the rise and spread of the progressive method."
would you agree?
President Wilson a former college professor at Princeton was an enthusiastic " Progressive ". And as were many Progressives in his day he was a strong proponent of " Human Eugenics " a philosophy and junk science which held that most races were inferior to the Caucasian Race .
His followers and supporters embraced him and his belief system just as firmly and blindly as those who are promoting Hillary do today .
Guest
05-29-2016, 12:20 PM
President Wilson a former college professor at Princeton was an enthusiastic " Progressive ". And as were many Progressives in his day he was a strong proponent of " Human Eugenics " a philosophy and junk science which held that most races were inferior to the Caucasian Race .
His followers and supporters embraced him and his belief system just as firmly and blindly as those who are promoting Hillary do today .
Today, self-styled progressives are wont, with considerable abandon, to label as racists those who object to their attempts at social engineering. They would do well to rein in their rhetorical excesses and curb their enthusiasm for the administrative state — for the Progressives of yesteryear, on whom they model themselves, really were racists in the precise and proper sense of the term, and in formulating public policy they were true to their principles.
Read more at: | National Review (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/345274/progressive-racism-paul-rahe)
The labels people put on others are so confusing and misleading. Why bother at all?
Guest
05-29-2016, 12:44 PM
" Why bother at all " --- They use the tactic because sadly it has been successful for them time and time again .
It is very ironic that all of the issues which the " Progressives " rail against today and falsely accuse the Conservatives of promoting were ideas conceived and promoted in former times by tier own Party and it`s leaders .
Guest
05-29-2016, 01:04 PM
" Why bother at all " --- They use the tactic because sadly it has been successful for them time and time again .
It is very ironic that all of the issues which the " Progressives " rail against today and falsely accuse the Conservatives of promoting were ideas conceived and promoted in former times by tier own Party and it`s leaders .Maybe a better question is why are people willing to be labeled? My guess is they don't really know what the label means. Or maybe it's too much trouble to start every post with a disclaimer.
Guest
05-29-2016, 01:57 PM
off topic but you have the expertise
How did Snowden have access to top secrets? As a system admin? Are there thousands of system admins working as contractors? Is the security on par with 2015 technology or more like 2000 technology?
Snowden was a contractor working for the government and had access to classified information. Yes, we have thousands of civilian contractors working for the Gov. They asked me to come back as a working "consultant" but I declined because I enjoyed traveling with my family and as a contractor, my wife would not be traveling with me. Especially, to some of the less than desirable countries I would be working in.
Classified information is ALWAYS stored in secured locations, in safes/vaults or on secured and encrypted electronic media, such as a closed and encrypted computer network. It can never/NEVER be mingled accidentally on an open system such as the Internet because it is a totally different system. The only way that anyone could transmit classified information via an email account on the Internet is if it was purposely moved from one location to another and installed onto the open network. If classified information is discussed on an open network, then that is also a violation, because it is still classified whether marked as such or not. Only the originator is allowed to give declassification instructions. Destruction of classified material must be documented and witnessed. I am paraphrasing and not giving exact quotes of the regulations/laws pertaining to the handling of classified.
Guest
05-29-2016, 05:54 PM
Snowden was a contractor working for the government and had access to classified information. Yes, we have thousands of civilian contractors working for the Gov. They asked me to come back as a working "consultant" but I declined because I enjoyed traveling with my family and as a contractor, my wife would not be traveling with me. Especially, to some of the less than desirable countries I would be working in.
Classified information is ALWAYS stored in secured locations, in safes/vaults or on secured and encrypted electronic media, such as a closed and encrypted computer network. It can never/NEVER be mingled accidentally on an open system such as the Internet because it is a totally different system. The only way that anyone could transmit classified information via an email account on the Internet is if it was purposely moved from one location to another and installed onto the open network. If classified information is discussed on an open network, then that is also a violation, because it is still classified whether marked as such or not. Only the originator is allowed to give declassification instructions. Destruction of classified material must be documented and witnessed. I am paraphrasing and not giving exact quotes of the regulations/laws pertaining to the handling of classified.Here's a geeky way of explaining it. How Unsafe Was Hillary Clinton's Secret Staff Email System? (http://gawker.com/how-unsafe-was-hillary-clintons-secret-staff-email-syst-1689393042)
Guest
05-29-2016, 06:18 PM
Hillary Clinton failed to report several hacking attempts: IG - Washington Times (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/25/hillary-clinton-failed-report-several-hacking-atte/)
"The 83-page report, obtained by The Washington Times, is devastating in its evaluation of Mrs. Clinton’s behavior, saying it can find no record of her getting approval from either security or legal staffers for her unique arrangement. The report also undercuts many of her campaign’s explanations for her use of the system, dismisses comparisons to her predecessors’ email use, and points to repeated hacking attempts that she failed to report."
Can't wait to see the FBI investigation report. Of course, I am not living under the delusion that the AG will prosecute. Obama's AG.
The Washington Times??? You've got to be kidding. The WT was founded by Moonies back in the 80's and is the standard conservative bias propaganda machine that Republicans depend on. Factual, no.
Guest
05-29-2016, 06:35 PM
The Washington Times??? You've got to be kidding. The WT was founded by Moonies back in the 80's and is the standard conservative bias propaganda machine that Republicans depend on. Factual, no.
Open mouth, insert foot. Are you going to dispute the IG report? Are you going to blame the Wash.Times for the IG report? Just bright as a box of hair, aren't ya?
Guest
05-29-2016, 06:57 PM
Open mouth, insert foot. Are you going to dispute the IG report? Are you going to blame the Wash.Times for the IG report? Just bright as a box of hair, aren't ya?
That would be cat hair of course .
Guest
05-29-2016, 07:05 PM
That would be cat hair of course .You're getting everyone mixed up again. I know it's confusing because we all have the same first name.
Guest
05-29-2016, 08:16 PM
"Not all progressives are liberal
Progressivism is a problem-solving method. Historians generally date Progressive Era as 1890-1920, but the progressive method did not end with that date. The progressive method is not an ideology but a pragmatic search for solutions that work, grounded in a healthy skepticism. Thus, for example, Prohibition was a progressive project and was based on the social science of that era, but “The Great Experiment” of Prohibition failed in practice and progressives also worked for its repeal. The 20th century can reasonably be summarized as the rise and spread of the progressive method."
would you agree?
So why do "progressives" keep pushing the equality meme? It's been proven not to work.
President Wilson a former college professor at Princeton was an enthusiastic " Progressive ". And as were many Progressives in his day he was a strong proponent of " Human Eugenics " a philosophy and junk science which held that most races were inferior to the Caucasian Race .
His followers and supporters embraced him and his belief system just as firmly and blindly as those who are promoting Hillary do today .
"Junk science"? It's what farmers have been doing...forever. Selective breeding to BETTER the species. We've been doing the complete opposite, the worst of us are doing the breeding, the best aren't.
Some are inferior. To deny it is idiocy.
Guest
05-29-2016, 09:36 PM
So why do "progressives" keep pushing the equality meme? It's been proven not to work.
"Junk science"? It's what farmers have been doing...forever. Selective breeding to BETTER the species. We've been doing the complete opposite, the worst of us are doing the breeding, the best aren't.
Some are inferior. To deny it is idiocy.
Yes farmers and horse breeders have followed this practice. There was a government which implemented such a program as well it was called Nazi Germany .
Guest
05-30-2016, 03:27 AM
Yes farmers and horse breeders have followed this practice. There was a government which implemented such a program as well it was called Nazi Germany .
And yet it is the liberals that want stem cell research, genocide by abortion (blacks) and legalized cloning for body parts. Nazi= a member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party.
Guest
05-30-2016, 05:29 AM
Yes farmers and horse breeders have followed this practice. There was a government which implemented such a program as well it was called Nazi Germany .
And they almost took over the world. They're STILL very respected and have a successful society...well until the recent immigrant invasion. Germany is THE country in Europe, to go-to place for help. Seems to me that Germans ARE a little better than everyone else. What have "black" countries done for themselves? Seems to me, the Germans were right. They WERE right.
And yet it is the liberals that want stem cell research, genocide by abortion (blacks) and legalized cloning for body parts. Nazi= a member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party.
Blacks don't get abortions, that's a "pay increase" for them.
Genocide? We do ALL we can to promote them! Without our help, they'd have all died out naturally from inability to compete.
Guest
05-30-2016, 11:50 AM
I hope this country hasn't sunk that low.
It's not the country. It's Obama and his justice dept.
Guest
05-30-2016, 01:53 PM
It's all part of the PLAN.. World Order! That's the goal of the Obama administration. The United States is going to implode if Clinton gets in.
Guest
05-30-2016, 02:33 PM
There is some talk that Russia breached Hillary's personal server and that it may have had some affect on Russia's move on the Ukraine?
The operative word here is TALK. All this talk back and forth by Judical Watch, the FBI, the DOJ , the media just keeps that ball in the air which pleases Hillary and the gang.
As a concerned citizen I want to see a fair, open, honest and just inquiry of Hillary's actions in connection with Benghazi, her personal server and the Clinton Charitable Foundation involvement with foreign nations. etc. For the sake of this nation those in authority should move to get this issue adjudicated, to answer the question concerning Hillary, her staff , etc as to "clean hands" Yes or No and to move accordingly
Personal Best Regards:
Guest
05-30-2016, 03:24 PM
There is some talk that Russia breached Hillary's personal server and that it may have had some affect on Russia's move on the Ukraine?
The operative word here is TALK. All this talk back and forth by Judical Watch, the FBI, the DOJ , the media just keeps that ball in the air which pleases Hillary and the gang.
As a concerned citizen I want to see a fair, open, honest and just inquiry of Hillary's actions in connection with Benghazi, her personal server and the Clinton Charitable Foundation involvement with foreign nations. etc. For the sake of this nation those in authority should move to get this issue adjudicated, to answer the question concerning Hillary, her staff , etc as to "clean hands" Yes or No and to move accordingly
Personal Best Regards:
:agree:
Guest
05-30-2016, 03:33 PM
There is some talk that Russia breached Hillary's personal server and that it may have had some affect on Russia's move on the Ukraine?
The operative word here is TALK. All this talk back and forth by Judical Watch, the FBI, the DOJ , the media just keeps that ball in the air which pleases Hillary and the gang.
As a concerned citizen I want to see a fair, open, honest and just inquiry of Hillary's actions in connection with Benghazi, her personal server and the Clinton Charitable Foundation involvement with foreign nations. etc. For the sake of this nation those in authority should move to get this issue adjudicated, to answer the question concerning Hillary, her staff , etc as to "clean hands" Yes or No and to move accordingly
Personal Best Regards:
It seems to have been settled pretty much by all the investigations of this. They should move forward. The Republicans in Congress could not find anything actionable. Granted that if we had a Republican as President the outcome might have been different especially if it were Donald Trump but this happened during President Obama's tenure.
Guest
05-30-2016, 03:51 PM
Hillary Clinton failed to report several hacking attempts: IG - Washington Times (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/25/hillary-clinton-failed-report-several-hacking-atte/)
"The 83-page report, obtained by The Washington Times, is devastating in its evaluation of Mrs. Clinton’s behavior, saying it can find no record of her getting approval from either security or legal staffers for her unique arrangement. The report also undercuts many of her campaign’s explanations for her use of the system, dismisses comparisons to her predecessors’ email use, and points to repeated hacking attempts that she failed to report."
Can't wait to see the FBI investigation report. Of course, I am not living under the delusion that the AG will prosecute. Obama's AG.
It is too bad that SCIENCE failed - to correct your very obvious brain damage. You MIGHT have turned out to be a productive member of society instead of just being a useful idiot for the Dumbpublicans.
Guest
05-30-2016, 04:06 PM
There is some talk that Russia breached Hillary's personal server and that it may have had some affect on Russia's move on the Ukraine?
The operative word here is TALK. All this talk back and forth by Judical Watch, the FBI, the DOJ , the media just keeps that ball in the air which pleases Hillary and the gang.
As a concerned citizen I want to see a fair, open, honest and just inquiry of Hillary's actions in connection with Benghazi, her personal server and the Clinton Charitable Foundation involvement with foreign nations. etc. For the sake of this nation those in authority should move to get this issue adjudicated, to answer the question concerning Hillary, her staff , etc as to "clean hands" Yes or No and to move accordingly
Personal Best Regards:
Congressman Trey Gowdy (R-SC) recently promised his investigation in to Benghazi will be complete and released to the public before the conventions start in July. He will also release the total costs this investigation (the eighth) has cost the taxpayers.
Guest
05-30-2016, 04:13 PM
Congressman Trey Gowdy (R-SC) recently promised his investigation in to Benghazi will be complete and released to the public before the conventions start in July. He will also release the total costs this investigation (the eighth) has cost the taxpayers.
Gowdy Doody is just another useful idiot of the Republicans. Don't believe a word that liar says!
Guest
05-30-2016, 04:40 PM
Gowdy Doody is just another useful idiot of the Republicans. Don't believe a word that liar says!
Trust me I won't. I just want to hear what this latest investigation (the eighth) cost the taxpayers.
Guest
05-30-2016, 04:48 PM
Trust me I won't. I just want to hear what this latest investigation (the eighth) cost the taxpayers.
Hopefully, it will be less than the amount spent on the Obama family's vacations.
Guest
05-30-2016, 04:51 PM
It seems to have been settled pretty much by all the investigations of this. They should move forward. The Republicans in Congress could not find anything actionable. Granted that if we had a Republican as President the outcome might have been different especially if it were Donald Trump but this happened during President Obama's tenure.
How do you figure? The investigation into Hillary's misconduct is STILL an ongoing FBI investigation.
Guest
05-31-2016, 12:17 AM
Hopefully, it will be less than the amount spent on the Obama family's vacations.
How much was spent on Bush 41 and Bush 43 family vacations?
Guest
05-31-2016, 03:00 AM
How much was spent on Bush 41 and Bush 43 family vacations?
Look it up. It all there for your pleasure. Google is your friend.
Guest
05-31-2016, 04:18 AM
It seems to have been settled pretty much by all the investigations of this. They should move forward. The Republicans in Congress could not find anything actionable. Granted that if we had a Republican as President the outcome might have been different especially if it were Donald Trump but this happened during President Obama's tenure.
Dear Guest: Here within is the problem of politics getting in the way of reality, fairness, justice. This rule of man over rule of law has infected both parties, all government agencies, pretty much all of Washington. For some its "don't to anything to lose votes". For others its fear that the malfeasance at hand will "out them also so they want it to go away. Still others for some ungodly reason circle the wagons to protect their own.
"This nation is divide into unhealthy collectives that cannot think for themselves. so the tag line "they found nothing" pacifies
Anyone who can read and does, understands that many different organizations have come to the same conclusion as to Hillary's judgment, actions and performance and concluded "something is rotten in Denmark" but they deflect, because they have no backbone they are part of the scandal or they protect their own for selfish reasons.
You get the government you deserve. The people supporting and protecting Hillary's actions from being adjudicated are complicit in this action and doing a disservice to the nation as a whole
We speak of corruption in 3rd world nations and here before your eyes is corruption in this nation
Personal Best Regards:
Guest
05-31-2016, 06:17 AM
We speak of corruption in 3rd world nations and here before your eyes is corruption in this nation
Personal Best Regards:
We're quickly becoming 3rd world ourselves...literally overrun by 3rd worlders.
And yes, we voted (well, YOU did, I didn't) for the liars and thieves who did it to us.
Guest
05-31-2016, 09:09 AM
We're quickly becoming 3rd world ourselves...literally overrun by 3rd worlders.
And yes, we voted (well, YOU did, I didn't) for the liars and thieves who did it to us.
Get over it. The broken record is getting tedious.
Guest
05-31-2016, 09:45 AM
Get over it. The broken record is getting tedious.
Sorry...I'll keep reminding you that unless you do something radical and fast, your country, your culture, your society, is lost.
From age 6 down they are already the majority. They will not be kind when they take over.
Watch as education struggles with them. Watch as the standards continue to go down to accommodate them. Watch ALL standards go down.
I'm warning you about the death of your country and tell me I'm tedious? You are why we will lose it.
You should have listened to the "radicals" warning you what was happening...you chose to believe those who were deceiving you.
"Immigrants in the United States and their U.S.-born children now number approximately 81 million people, or 26 percent of the overall U.S. population."
Frequently Requested Statistics on Immigrants and Immigration in the United States | migrationpolicy.org (http://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/frequently-requested-statistics-immigrants-and-immigration-united-states)
1 in 4 people in the US right now are foreign born or the child of a foreign born parent. Anchor babies.
We were invaded and they won.
Guest
05-31-2016, 10:19 AM
Sorry...I'll keep reminding you that unless you do something radical and fast, your country, your culture, your society, is lost.
From age 6 down they are already the majority. They will not be kind when they take over.
Watch as education struggles with them. Watch as the standards continue to go down to accommodate them. Watch ALL standards go down.
I'm warning you about the death of your country and tell me I'm tedious? You are why we will lose it.
You should have listened to the "radicals" warning you what was happening...you chose to believe those who were deceiving you.
"Immigrants in the United States and their U.S.-born children now number approximately 81 million people, or 26 percent of the overall U.S. population."
Frequently Requested Statistics on Immigrants and Immigration in the United States | migrationpolicy.org (http://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/frequently-requested-statistics-immigrants-and-immigration-united-states)
1 in 4 people in the US right now are foreign born or the child of a foreign born parent. Anchor babies.
We were invaded and they won.
Finally, a winner. Go get yourself a fresh sheet, 30 years of food, crawl in your bunker and wait for the end. You'll be much happier.
Guest
05-31-2016, 12:54 PM
Finally, a winner. Go get yourself a fresh sheet, 30 years of food, crawl in your bunker and wait for the end. You'll be much happier.
He has the right to be a racist and bigot, but he does not have the right to be tedious and obnoxious. He needs to put another quarter in the jukebox and play a different song.
Guest
05-31-2016, 01:03 PM
He has the right to be a racist and bigot, but he does not have the right to be tedious and obnoxious. He needs to put another quarter in the jukebox and play a different song.He certainly has the right to be tedious and obnoxious. He just doesn't have the good sense not to be.
Guest
05-31-2016, 02:51 PM
Tell a big lie long enough and people believe it...
I guess I'll have to keep repeating the TRUTH until you people start believing it.
Indoctrination that starts as an infant is VERY hard to break.
Guest
05-31-2016, 03:45 PM
Tell a big lie long enough and people believe it...
I guess I'll have to keep repeating the TRUTH until you people start believing it.
Indoctrination that starts as an infant is VERY hard to break.
You can complain all you want, but if you have no viable solution nobody is going to listen. It's just more whining. You might as well join the miscreants in the street protests. Nobody listens to them either.
Guest
05-31-2016, 04:54 PM
You can complain all you want, but if you have no viable solution nobody is going to listen. It's just more whining. You might as well join the miscreants in the street protests. Nobody listens to them either.
Equality is a lie, end ALL quotas and affirmative action. Bring back REAL standards in jobs and education that you either meet or fail. They'll all fail so we make work for them as they collect their welfare. Nobody eats for free. It's NOT slavery again so get over it. They can clean up the nasty inner city neighborhoods, paint, remove graffiti. One half can work in the morning while the other half watches the kids, they can switch in the afternoon. Welfare offices and unemployment offices can have buses that take them to work at places that need things done.
Round up the illegals and their "illegal" anchor babies and deport them. That's about 1/5 or 20% of the population. It'll open up jobs for the blacks and kids who need a job for extra money. It'll also bring whites back as the majority. We can start with English, don't know it? Bye bye!
How's that? A start?
Guest
05-31-2016, 05:05 PM
Equality is a lie, end ALL quotas and affirmative action. Bring back REAL standards in jobs and education that you either meet or fail. They'll all fail so we make work for them as they collect their welfare. Nobody eats for free. It's NOT slavery again so get over it. They can clean up the nasty inner city neighborhoods, paint, remove graffiti. One half can work in the morning while the other half watches the kids, they can switch in the afternoon. Welfare offices and unemployment offices can have buses that take them to work at places that need things done.
Round up the illegals and their "illegal" anchor babies and deport them. That's about 1/5 or 20% of the population. It'll open up jobs for the blacks and kids who need a job for extra money. It'll also bring whites back as the majority. We can start with English, don't know it? Bye bye!
How's that? A start?
One problem with your hypothesis is English is not the official language in the US. There is no official language in the US. There is no American language.
Congress could just as easily make Spanish the official language and tell you if you don't speak it...bye bye!
Guest
05-31-2016, 09:11 PM
One problem with your hypothesis is English is not the official language in the US. There is no official language in the US. There is no American language.
Congress could just as easily make Spanish the official language and tell you if you don't speak it...bye bye!
Your source ? Strange that the ONLY language used for official documents , Court proceedings and legal contracts is only English .
If you were correct then any two Hispanics could execute a contract written in Spanish and expect to be able to litigate it in any State or Federal Court in their language . However this is not the case at all .
Guest
06-01-2016, 06:59 AM
Your source ? Strange that the ONLY language used for official documents , Court proceedings and legal contracts is only English .
If you were correct then any two Hispanics could execute a contract written in Spanish and expect to be able to litigate it in any State or Federal Court in their language . However this is not the case at all .
How about posting a link that says English is the official language in the US? Can't find it? Because there is none.
Guest
06-01-2016, 07:08 AM
How about posting a link that says English is the official language in the US? Can't find it? Because there is none.
English 79.2%, Spanish 12.9%, other Indo-European 3.8%, Asian and Pacific island 3.3%, other 0.9% (2011 est.)
note: data represents the language spoken at home; the US has no official national language, but English has acquired official status in 31 of the 50 states; Hawaiian is an official language in the state of Hawaii
from the CIA World FactBook
The World Factbook (https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2098.html)
[although i just read someone was looking for this online]
Guest
06-01-2016, 07:40 AM
What's all this got to do with Hillary?
The Clintons have failed America. They are scumbag criminals, just pushing the limit to see if anyone will ever have the guts to jail them.
Answer this question, if you can:
Why do the Clintons have foreign entities donate millions of bucks, that are funneled through Canada instead of directly to the Clinton foundation? And why is it that only 10% of the foundation money goes to charity?
Guest
06-01-2016, 07:48 AM
What's all this got to do with Hillary?
The Clintons have failed America. They are scumbag criminals, just pushing the limit to see if anyone will ever have the guts to jail them.
Answer this question, if you can:
Why do the Clintons have foreign entities donate millions of bucks, that are funneled through Canada instead of directly to the Clinton foundation? And why is it that only 10% of the foundation money goes to charity?
And where can we find links to verify this information? Reputable sources only, please.
Guest
06-01-2016, 07:55 AM
And where can we find links to verify this information? Reputable sources only, please.
Google is your friend. Multiple sources, go find them yourself. Why don't you find some material that shows me wrong?
Guest
06-01-2016, 08:09 AM
Considering all of the organizations affiliated with the Clinton Foundation, he said, CharityWatch concluded about 89 percent of its budget is spent on programs. That’s the amount it spent on charity in 2013, he said.
Where Does Clinton Foundation Money Go? (http://www.factcheck.org/2015/06/where-does-clinton-foundation-money-go/)
[I'm not in on this thread either but I like looking things up.
“You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.”
― Daniel Patrick Moynihan I think I'll share that again with the fellow who won't believe 99% of that quote.].
Guest
06-01-2016, 08:26 AM
The Clinton Foundation: A cauldron of conflicts and cronyism – Capital Research Center (https://capitalresearch.org/2015/05/the-clinton-foundation-a-cauldron-of-conflicts-and-cronyism/)
"While Hillary Clinton served as Secretary of State, the governments of Kuwait, Qatar, Oman, Australia, Norway, Algeria, and the Dominican Republic all lavished millions of dollars on the Clinton Foundation."
"George Soros’s Soros Foundation, the European arm of the radical left-wing billionaire’s Open Society Institute, has also donated."
Guest
06-01-2016, 08:30 AM
The Clinton Foundation has $277.8 million in assets. It took in $144.3 million and doled out $8.8 million in fiscal year 2013.
Guest
06-01-2016, 08:30 AM
The Clinton Foundation: A cauldron of conflicts and cronyism – Capital Research Center (https://capitalresearch.org/2015/05/the-clinton-foundation-a-cauldron-of-conflicts-and-cronyism/)
"While Hillary Clinton served as Secretary of State, the governments of Kuwait, Qatar, Oman, Australia, Norway, Algeria, and the Dominican Republic all lavished millions of dollars on the Clinton Foundation."
"George Soros’s Soros Foundation, the European arm of the radical left-wing billionaire’s Open Society Institute, has also donated."The Capital Research Center is a conservative think tank whose stated mission is to do "opposition research" exposing the funding sources behind consumer, health and environmental groups.
Koch Wiki
The Koch brothers -- David and Charles -- are the right-wing billionaire co-owners of Koch Industries. As two of the richest people in the world, they are key funders of the right-wing infrastructure, including the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) and the State Policy Network (SPN). In SourceWatch, key articles on the Kochs include: Koch Brothers, Koch Industries, Americans for Prosperity, American Encore, and Freedom Partners.
Capital Research Center - SourceWatch (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Capital_Research_Center)
Guest
06-01-2016, 08:33 AM
Still voting for Hillary Clinton unless something drastic happens and that seems quite unlikely.
Guest
06-01-2016, 08:35 AM
According to Reuters, “[f]or three years in a row beginning in 2010, the Clinton Foundation reported to the IRS that it received zero in funds from foreign and U.S. governments, a dramatic fall-off from the tens of millions of dollars in foreign government contributions reported in preceding years.”
Guest
06-01-2016, 08:37 AM
off topic--
I'm watching this now and hit pause. In an odd sort of way I think it shaped my life in many ways including a political viewpoint. Can anyone else relate to these lessons in life?
v=7yhYsjYbnUY&index=76&list=PLK-g3awj_KClTN5aL-qoK5JW-FbfluQ5D
Guest
06-01-2016, 08:38 AM
Still voting for Hillary Clinton unless something drastic happens and that seems quite unlikely.
So, you will vote for a felon, a liar and a tax cheat that hates the military. You must be a very unhappy person, or a very radical ideologue. Another that hates America.
Guest
06-01-2016, 08:39 AM
off topic--
I'm watching this now and hit pause. In an odd sort of way I think it shaped my life in many ways including a political viewpoint. Can anyone else relate to these lessons in life?
v=7yhYsjYbnUY&index=76&list=PLK-g3awj_KClTN5aL-qoK5JW-FbfluQ5DI'll try again.
v=7yhYsjYbnUY
Guest
06-01-2016, 08:43 AM
So, you will vote for a felon, a liar and a tax cheat that hates the military. You must be a very unhappy person, or a very radical ideologue. Another that hates America.
A felon is someone who has been convicted of a crime. She has not.
Where is there evidence that she is a tax cheat?
How can you say she hates the military. Sounds like Trump propaganda.
She certainly stretches the truth like just about every other politician in DC. Look at Donald Trump for a barometer on truth telling. He is the biggest liar ever to run for any US political office.
Guest
06-01-2016, 08:58 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html?_r=0
"Uranium investors’ efforts to buy mining assets in Kazakhstan and the United States led to a takeover bid by a Russian state-owned energy company. The investors gave millions to the Clinton Foundation over the same period, while Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton’s office was involved with approving the Russian bid."
Guest
06-01-2016, 09:07 AM
A felon is someone who has been convicted of a crime. She has not.
Where is there evidence that she is a tax cheat?
How can you say she hates the military. Sounds like Trump propaganda.
She certainly stretches the truth like just about every other politician in DC. Look at Donald Trump for a barometer on truth telling. He is the biggest liar ever to run for any US political office.
WRONG! A felon is a person that has committed a felony. There is no conviction required for that label. Nice try.
Evidence that she is a tax cheat? In her tax returns. She lied and now she is being investigated by the IRS.
Yes, the Clintons hate the military. I was at the DIAC in D.C. when one of our Intelligence Officers returned from the White House to give a morning briefing. He told me what was said. In the Washingtonian magazine there was an article where Chelsea told a marine that her parents hated the military and she did too. Billy Clinton dodged the draft by running over to the UK to avoid the having to serve. That's well documented. There was even a scandal where a State Dept employee was reported as having destroyed a letter that he sent renouncing his citizenship, but that has never been proven. Easy to believe though.
What has Hillary done for the military or the Veterans?
So, if you need justification for voting for Hillary, you will have to make something up because there isn't any reason to vote for her, other than radical ideology.
Like I said, the Clintons are scumbag leaches. They left the White House dirt poor, according to their statements, and now are practically billionaires. Legal? I'm sure you will defend them.
Guest
06-01-2016, 01:21 PM
WRONG! A felon is a person that has committed a felony. There is no conviction required for that label. Nice try.
Evidence that she is a tax cheat? In her tax returns. She lied and now she is being investigated by the IRS.
Yes, the Clintons hate the military. I was at the DIAC in D.C. when one of our Intelligence Officers returned from the White House to give a morning briefing. He told me what was said. In the Washingtonian magazine there was an article where Chelsea told a marine that her parents hated the military and she did too. Billy Clinton dodged the draft by running over to the UK to avoid the having to serve. That's well documented. There was even a scandal where a State Dept employee was reported as having destroyed a letter that he sent renouncing his citizenship, but that has never been proven. Easy to believe though.
What has Hillary done for the military or the Veterans?
So, if you need justification for voting for Hillary, you will have to make something up because there isn't any reason to vote for her, other than radical ideology.
Like I said, the Clintons are scumbag leaches. They left the White House dirt poor, according to their statements, and now are practically billionaires. Legal? I'm sure you will defend them.
Wow, you sure are full of hatred. You also are lying. Go post your vile elsewhere.
Guest
06-01-2016, 01:46 PM
A felon is someone who has been convicted of a crime. She has not.
Where is there evidence that she is a tax cheat?
How can you say she hates the military. Sounds like Trump propaganda.
She certainly stretches the truth like just about every other politician in DC. Look at Donald Trump for a barometer on truth telling. He is the biggest liar ever to run for any US political office.PolitiFact is a fact-checking website that rates the accuracy of claims by elected officials and others who speak up in American politics. PolitiFact is run by editors and reporters from the Tampa Bay Times, an independent newspaper in Florida,....
They won the Pulitzer Prize.
follow the link and see who lies the most The Principles of PolitiFact, PunditFact and the Truth-O-Meter | PolitiFact (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2013/nov/01/principles-politifact-punditfact-and-truth-o-meter/)
Guest
06-01-2016, 01:56 PM
Wow, you sure are full of hatred. You also are lying. Go post your vile elsewhere.
I hate no one. I dislike the Clintons, and will admit it. I have no reason to like them and no reason to hate them.
You should be careful when calling someone a liar. I reviewed my post and found no lies. It was probably a knee jerk reaction to having me disagree with you, that you responded with that accusation.
Vile: evil or immoral
Nope, no evil and no immoral. I am afraid you have me mixed up with the Clinton clan.
Guest
06-01-2016, 03:51 PM
So, you will vote for a felon, a liar and a tax cheat that hates the military. You must be a very unhappy person, or a very radical ideologue. Another that hates America.
It's a small price to pay to never have to listen to Donald Trump call women dogs, fat pigs, low lifes, treat them like poop, or call John McCain a loser for serving seven years as a POW.
This should have been such an easy election for the GOP, but instead they nominated Donald J. Trump.
Guest
06-01-2016, 07:45 PM
It's a small price to pay to never have to listen to Donald Trump call women dogs, fat pigs, low lifes, treat them like poop, or call John McCain a loser for serving seven years as a POW.
This should have been such an easy election for the GOP, but instead they nominated Donald J. Trump.
For crying out loud, get a hold of yourself and try to be truthful about your comments. He didn't call McCain a "loser" for spending seven years as a POW. He actually said that POWs were not heroes just for getting captured. I don't agree with him on that, but at least I don't make up lies to make it look worst. And some women (as well as men) ARE fat pigs, dogs and low lifes. So what? Get over you prissy little self and quit being a wuss. If you don't like him, then don't vote for him. I doubt you will hurt his feelings. Go ahead and vote for the criminal, liar, tax fraud and disloyal scumbag, Hillary. You will get two scumbags for the price of ten. I am sure they will steal more this time than the last time they were in the White House. And yes, they did steal gov property when they left and got only a slap on the wrist for grand larceny (which if charged is a felony) and made to pay back a few thousand bucks. But, you go ahead and fix The Donald and vote for the evil one.
Guest
06-02-2016, 08:38 AM
For crying out loud, get a hold of yourself and try to be truthful about your comments. He didn't call McCain a "loser" for spending seven years as a POW. He actually said that POWs were not heroes just for getting captured.That makes it an honorable statement that everyone should ignore. What bothered me about the statement is that it was a knee jerk reaction. He couldn't not help but make a comeback like Don Rickles or Howard Stern would do. That's what entertainers do and it's funny. It's the same with the fat jokes about Rosie. It's a funny comeback.
The latest is the quick comeback because the PGA wants to change venues at least for this year. Even while running for a couple of more months he can't just let it ride.
He is a loose cannon. How will he bear up against real threats? Like he did with McCain, Rosie or the PGA ?
Guest
06-02-2016, 09:46 AM
For crying out loud, get a hold of yourself and try to be truthful about your comments. He didn't call McCain a "loser" for spending seven years as a POW. He actually said that POWs were not heroes just for getting captured. But, you go ahead and fix The Donald and vote for the evil one.
Here’s a transcript of their conversation:
Trump: "(McCain) insulted me and he insulted everybody in that room. And I said somebody should run against John McCain, who has been, in my opinion, not so hot. And I supported him for president. I raised $1 million for him. That’s a lot of money. I supported him, he lost, he let us down. But he lost and I never liked him much after that 'cause I don’t like losers. But, but — Frank, Frank, let me get to it.
Luntz: "He’s a war hero. He’s a war hero …"
Trump: "He’s not a war hero ..."
Luntz: "He’s war hero."
Trump: "He is a war hero ..."
Luntz: "Five and half years in a Vietnamese prison camp …"
Trump: "He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people that weren’t captured. So he’s a war hero …"
Luntz: "Do you agree with that?"
Trump: "He’s a war hero, because he was captured, okay? I believe, perhaps, he’s a war hero. But right now he said some very bad things about a lot of people. So what I said is John McCain, I disagree with him that these people aren’t crazy."
Trump literally said McCain "is a war hero" five times, but always with strings attached. Twice, he was interrupted by Luntz before he could finish his sentence. Once, the statement was preceded by "I believe, perhaps." And the last two times, Trump added "because he was captured."
He also, of course, started all this by saying McCain is "not a war hero."
Experts told us these caveats change the meaning of the sentence entirely.
" ‘He’s a war hero because he was captured’ implies that anybody who is captured is called a war hero, but there’s really nothing special about them," said Kathleen Kendall, who studies political campaign communication at the University of Maryland.
Guest
06-02-2016, 09:51 AM
That makes it an honorable statement that everyone should ignore. What bothered me about the statement is that it was a knee jerk reaction. He couldn't not help but make a comeback like Don Rickles or Howard Stern would do. That's what entertainers do and it's funny. It's the same with the fat jokes about Rosie. It's a funny comeback.
The latest is the quick comeback because the PGA wants to change venues at least for this year. Even while running for a couple of more months he can't just let it ride.
He is a loose cannon. How will he bear up against real threats? Like he did with McCain, Rosie or the PGA ?
Who gives a rats @ss about the PGA? And what does it have to do with this thread. Are you crazy? Have you totally lost it? Please do us all a favor and cut back on the meds. or take the ones that you forgot to take.
Guest
06-02-2016, 10:16 AM
Who gives a rats @ss about the PGA? And what does it have to do with this thread. Are you crazy? Have you totally lost it? Please do us all a favor and cut back on the meds. or take the ones that you forgot to take.
Email Trump and tell him "who gives a rats ass about the PGA". Getting angry about every little stupid thing that happens to you is going to cost you the election. People will think you are crazy.
What does this have to do with the thread? nothing
Did you ask anyone else who drifted off topic the same question?
Guest
06-02-2016, 10:24 AM
Who gives a rats @ss about the PGA? And what does it have to do with this thread. Are you crazy? Have you totally lost it? Please do us all a favor and cut back on the meds. or take the ones that you forgot to take.
Donald Trump's Doral Golf Course losing the PGA to Mexico is a funny anecdote to Trump's railing about bringing jobs back from Mexico. He can't even keep jobs in his own back yard because nobody wants to sponsor his golf tournaments any more.
Guest
06-02-2016, 10:27 AM
Email Trump and tell him "who gives a rats ass about the PGA". Getting angry about every little stupid thing that happens to you is going to cost you the election. People will think you are crazy.
What does this have to do with the thread? nothing
Did you ask anyone else who drifted off topic the same question?
WHy are you asking stupid questions? Stick with something related to the subject.
Guest
06-02-2016, 10:29 AM
Here’s a transcript of their conversation:
Trump: "(McCain) insulted me and he insulted everybody in that room. And I said somebody should run against John McCain, who has been, in my opinion, not so hot. And I supported him for president. I raised $1 million for him. That’s a lot of money. I supported him, he lost, he let us down. But he lost and I never liked him much after that 'cause I don’t like losers. But, but — Frank, Frank, let me get to it.
Luntz: "He’s a war hero. He’s a war hero …"
Trump: "He’s not a war hero ..."
Luntz: "He’s war hero."
Trump: "He is a war hero ..."
Luntz: "Five and half years in a Vietnamese prison camp …"
Trump: "He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people that weren’t captured. So he’s a war hero …"
Luntz: "Do you agree with that?"
Trump: "He’s a war hero, because he was captured, okay? I believe, perhaps, he’s a war hero. But right now he said some very bad things about a lot of people. So what I said is John McCain, I disagree with him that these people aren’t crazy."
Trump literally said McCain "is a war hero" five times, but always with strings attached. Twice, he was interrupted by Luntz before he could finish his sentence. Once, the statement was preceded by "I believe, perhaps." And the last two times, Trump added "because he was captured."
He also, of course, started all this by saying McCain is "not a war hero."
Experts told us these caveats change the meaning of the sentence entirely.
" ‘He’s a war hero because he was captured’ implies that anybody who is captured is called a war hero, but there’s really nothing special about them," said Kathleen Kendall, who studies political campaign communication at the University of Maryland.
Where did he call him a "loser?"
Guest
06-02-2016, 10:33 AM
Where did he call him a "loser?"
It was implied.
Guest
06-02-2016, 10:48 AM
It was implied.
Right! B.S.! Same old liberal B.S.
Guest
06-02-2016, 11:07 AM
Did Trump imply that he was a hero?
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