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I have seen no sheds of any kind in TV. Is is safe to say they are verbotten, by the Powers that be?
rshoffer
01-19-2009, 02:23 PM
Verbotten!
GMONEY
01-19-2009, 02:50 PM
in case once wasnt enough, here it is again.. Verbotten!!
redwitch
01-19-2009, 04:48 PM
In the historic side, you can have a shed if it is permanently attached to your building structure, which pretty much precludes you from having a shed anywhere.
Do remember this is at least high wind (hurricane) country. Would you want your neighbor's shed to come flying into your home?
I would not even want my own shed to come flying into my home!
Talk Host
01-19-2009, 06:55 PM
I believe the shed restriction goes way beyond hurricane safety concerns. I think it is in the "Pink Flamingo" category.
billethkid
01-19-2009, 07:44 PM
Pink flamingos are verboten?
BTK:laugh:
KayakerNC
01-19-2009, 08:18 PM
Pink flamingos are verboten?
BTK:laugh:
Darn!!!
My garden gnomes are gonna be lonely.:cus:
Dirigo
01-19-2009, 08:27 PM
As some of you may know, Maine is bordered more by Canada than by the United States, so Mainers venture into Canada from time to time for this and that reason.
In Canada I have seen orange flamingos with black wings on lawns. I have not seen them in Maine. In Maine the pink ones are used (by some anyway).;)
Once I drove by a house whose owners I knew to be on vacation. Someone had covered their lawn with 100 pink flamingos. This was in the winter, so imagine seeing a sea of pink on a white background upon your return from some warm sunny vacation spot :laugh:
I know...I know...nothing to do with sheds....sorry...just a funny story:laugh:
downeaster
01-19-2009, 08:28 PM
Darn!!!
My garden gnomes are gonna be lonely.:cus:
You can always add the Seven Dwarfs to keep them company.
SABRMnLgs
01-19-2009, 09:41 PM
Finally .......... I got something over on the yard nazis. We had two BIG sheds in the back of our house when we lived in Calumet Grove. No one told us we could not have them so we kept them when we moved here from Oviedo. (Had them there for years).
Since they were in the back of the house, the yard nazis couldn't see them.
We now have upgarded (I think) to a house with no fences (darn). So the yard nazis can patrol all around your house looking for stuff to report you for.
But it's wayyyyyy to late. We left them in Calumet Grove and I'll never tell where even if they put me in a padded room and beat me with their little covenant books.
So .......... what you don't see is what you keep!!! :pepper2:
Bogie Shooter
01-19-2009, 10:35 PM
Finally .......... I got something over on the yard nazis. We had two BIG sheds in the back of our house when we lived in Calumet Grove. No one told us we could not have them so we kept them when we moved here from Oviedo. (Had them there for years).
Since they were in the back of the house, the yard nazis couldn't see them.
We now have upgarded (I think) to a house with no fences (darn). So the yard nazis can patrol all around your house looking for stuff to report you for.
But it's wayyyyyy to late. We left them in Calumet Grove and I'll never tell where even if they put me in a padded room and beat me with their little covenant books.
So .......... what you don't see is what you keep!!! :pepper2:
How about picking up after dogs??
SABRMnLgs
01-20-2009, 12:16 AM
And that has to do with sheds .............um how?? :shrug:
Another reason we would opt for a fence in no time if we could. Our beagle wouldn't need to be on a chain. Got to run free for 8 years (privacy fence), now a prisoner.
Barefoot
01-20-2009, 12:23 AM
Another reason we would opt for a fence in no time if we could. Our beagle wouldn't need to be on a chain.
You can have a fenced yard in a Courtyard villa. And your dog won't have to be on a chain.
SABRMnLgs
01-20-2009, 03:42 PM
A CYV was what we had in Calumet Grove. And that also was were the aforementioned sheds were/are (see previous posting).
Bogie Shooter
01-20-2009, 11:03 PM
And that has to do with sheds .............um how?? :shrug:
Another reason we would opt for a fence in no time if we could. Our beagle wouldn't need to be on a chain. Got to run free for 8 years (privacy fence), now a prisoner.'
re picking up after dogs.
Thinking of your neighbore....if you break one covenant...I would guess you would break more.
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re picking up after dogs.
Thinking of your neighbore....if you break one covenant...I would guess you would break more.
I hope your my nieghbor when I get there, you'll love my boat in the car port, and the parties I'll be having with my Harley riding buddies. I can't wait to get to the friendliest hometown, (Comrade)
collie1228
01-21-2009, 08:02 AM
SABRMnLgs, how does your beagle react to being a prisoner after being a free dog all those years? I have a great, one year old Beagle (Bob) who enjoys his fenced in yard here in snowy Upstate NY (and he loves the snow too - crazy dog). I'm about three years from a move to TY, depending on the economy, of course, and the plan for Bob's sake is to get something with a fence, like a Courtyard Villa. I don't think he would like being chained up, and I'm wondering how your dog behaves. Does he bark/howl when tied up?
redwitch
01-21-2009, 08:29 AM
collie, I dog sit 3 beagles. They all survive quite well with an invisible fence. They still have the run of their yard. Heck, they're so used to the fence that it is turned off and they still stay in their yard. No howling, baying, barking except when someone comes to the door.
Barefoot
01-21-2009, 09:18 AM
Another reason we would opt for a fence in no time if we could. Our beagle wouldn't need to be on a chain. Got to run free for 8 years (privacy fence), now a prisoner.
Sorry Jerry, I didn't realize you had moved out of a courtyard villa with a fenced yard. I suggested a courtyard villa because I read your statement "we would opt for a fence in no time if we could".
I don't believe in shocking my dogs with electrical fencing, so we do have a courtyard villa for our dogs.
Bogie Shooter
01-21-2009, 10:13 AM
I hope your my nieghbor when I get there, you'll love my boat in the car port, and the parties I'll be having with my Harley riding buddies. I can't wait to get to the friendliest hometown, (Comrade)
It is the friendliest hometown!. But bragging about breaking the rules doesn't make sense to me.
Sorry no carports, unless you are moving to the historic side....I'm sure you will get as much love there as in the newer villages.
collie1228
01-21-2009, 07:58 PM
Thanks for the reply, Red. I truly wish you were here so we could have you dog sit Bob - He's going to be boarded at the vet's kennel next week when we head for Cancun (got to get away from this nasty winter in Upstate NY).
SABRMnLgs
01-22-2009, 03:53 AM
Hey Bogie,
Read the posts and you see what I mean .............. I bother absolutely no one. But somebody has always got that darn covenant comic book out telling you what you can and cannot do. You gotta have this, you can't have that. Well you can have that, but only over there. You can't have it here.
While this is supposed to be a "Friendly place" it is also one of the most sterile environments I have ever experienced. There is NO personality allowed
except for what the yard nazis and covenant freaks allow. And snitches abound, believe me. Some have nothing better to do with their time.
And now watch them come out in defense of their "holy book". You cannot write anything you feel is an injustice or derogatory without getting someone elses dander up.
That being said, there are a number of A-1 class people who live here. And with any large group there are going to be good and bad. Intelligent and ignorant. On my very few and far between forays into the community you can strike up some great conversations even in the grocery line. Yet other times you run into someone who can't pour water out of a boot. These types you see at the CDD meetings.
Well, I've belabored the point long enough. But I suggest you look into Orange Blossom or Silver Lake. At least there you some some say in what you can have and do.
graciegirl
01-22-2009, 06:37 AM
Jerry.
I know you believe passionately that people should have the right wherever they live to put anything in their yards and that is so sad because I wonder if you knew that there were deed restrictions when you bought here?
I didn't think of myself as a yard Nazi but I cringed when I passed by a yard in Hadley that had bright artificial flowers stuck in the yard bordering a tree in the front yard. They weren't pretty to me. I just hated to see it because wherever else my eye falls here is beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. It is one of the primary reasons I fell in love with this place.
It is just me. I don't think badly of the person who lives there. I imagine that that person looks out and thinks how beautiful those artificial flowers are and how much every person who passes by enjoys them.
I am glad for the rules and sad for people who get their feelings hurt about them.
GracieGirl.
SABRMnLgs
01-22-2009, 10:43 PM
That is what I mean by yard sterilization. They could have tons of flowers and it wouldn't bother me. As long as it's not in my yard they are putting them.
We had some very weird things in yards where I lived in Oviedo. I thought they were down-right dumb and ugly. But hey ..... it's supposed to be a free country. I just shook my head, smiled and thought what bad taste those folks had.
Would I run off to report them? NEVER!! I was a flight medic in Viet Nam and saw hundreds of body bags of young guys who died expressly so these folks could make their yard in bad taste happen. It's called freedom.
They paid their hard earned money for their house and as long as they weren't trying to raise cattle on it (we lived in the burbs), I really could not and did not care what they had on their private property.
Their home belonged to them, not to their neighbors and certainly not to a group of people who decide what is right for others. I would disgrace the memory of those guys who died to cowtow to any group like that.
Didn't mean to ramble but opinions here are accepted. Nespa?
downeaster
01-23-2009, 09:22 AM
SABRM is absolutely right.
However, it is a two sided situation. The other side being we have right to live in a community that, among other things, has deed restrictions. We also have the right to expect and insist those restrictions are adhered to.
NJblue
01-23-2009, 10:10 AM
Yes, freedom is a protected right. However, a contract that one freely signs should also be enforceable without the signee complaining that his freedoms are being taken away. You are free to sign or not sign a contract, but once you sign it, you are expected to abide by it. That is part of the rule of law that people have fought and died for as well.
redwitch
01-23-2009, 10:30 AM
I'm with NJ on this one. You don't have to move south of 466. The rules are far less stringent north of it. If you purchased a home south of 466, you signed a contract agreeing to those rules and restrictions. There's no excuse for breaking the rules after you VOLUNTARILY agreed to them. No one forced you to purchase there. You could have just as easily purchased a beautiful pre-owned home where the rules were more to your liking.
rshoffer
01-23-2009, 10:59 AM
Hey Bogie,
Read the posts and you see what I mean .............. I bother absolutely no one. But somebody has always got that darn covenant comic book out telling you what you can and cannot do. You gotta have this, you can't have that. Well you can have that, but only over there. You can't have it here.
While this is supposed to be a "Friendly place" it is also one of the most sterile environments I have ever experienced. There is NO personality allowed
except for what the yard nazis and covenant freaks allow. And snitches abound, believe me. Some have nothing better to do with their time.
And now watch them come out in defense of their "holy book". You cannot write anything you feel is an injustice or derogatory without getting someone elses dander up.
That being said, there are a number of A-1 class people who live here. And with any large group there are going to be good and bad. Intelligent and ignorant. On my very few and far between forays into the community you can strike up some great conversations even in the grocery line. Yet other times you run into someone who can't pour water out of a boot. These types you see at the CDD meetings.
Well, I've belabored the point long enough. But I suggest you look into Orange Blossom or Silver Lake. At least there you some some say in what you can have and do.I agree with your point completely and I recently has a personal experience with the "lawn nazi's" that got my dander up until my wife and I discussed it. Here's what happened: We live in Duval. We spent a lot of $$$ on the typical landscape upgrades. My wife's cousin lives in Glenbrook and is a talented artist and woodcarver and specializes in exotic birds, herons, cranes etc. As a housewarming gift, he gave us a beautiful white heron that, from 10 feet away looks so real we had neighbors stopping by to see why this heron was always in our yard. We had it discretely placed in the landscaping along the corner of the house. For some reason, 7 months later we start getting notices from the CDD attached to our front door indicating we are in "violation".... I threw the first few in the trash and then the notices started getting harsher... that's when my wife and I had the discussion which essentially ended up with, "we knew from the start there were very strict restrictions and that we were moving into a Stepford Wives kind of environment when we decided to move here, blah, blah,blah" so I took the damn bird down. Now I'm waiting to see what they do about the home down the street that has a giant birdbath in the front yard with a cherub spewing water" Funny thing is I never paid it no attention.... now I wonder if that'll have to go too. Life'a a trade off.... I used to live on a mountainside deep in the woods.... no zoning.... some of the properties close by were pretty scary. Nobody cared if I had a bird or a 500lb gorilla in my front yard. You either suck it up and become a Stepford or head back to the mountainside.
KayakerNC
01-23-2009, 11:10 AM
From Wikipedia: Hypocrisy (or the state of being a hypocrite) is the act of preaching a certain belief, religion or way of life, but not, in fact, holding these same virtues oneself.
Signing a covenant with your fingers crossed behind your back seems to be a tad hypocritical.
graciegirl
01-23-2009, 11:27 AM
RSHoffer. I betcha if you asked permission to put the lovely carved bird there, the architectural committee would grant it. I think sometimes it is just Mother May I here.
Barefoot
01-23-2009, 11:49 AM
Life'a a trade off.... I used to live on a mountainside deep in the woods.... no zoning.... some of the properties close by were pretty scary. Nobody cared if I had a bird or a 500 lb gorilla in my front yard. You either suck it up and become a Stepford or head back to the mountainside.
I agree, life is a trade off. Many of us came from rural properties with no restrictions. I lived on a horse farm for 20 years.
When we moved to TV, we bought into the Stepford lifestyle. While I don't always like the restrictions, I do love and appreciate the cleanliness and beauty of TV. What someone perceives as beautiful and artistic, their neighbour may see as trinkets and trash.
We all signed contracts agreeing to rules and restrictions. I agree, suck it up or head back to the mountainside.
SABRMnLgs
01-23-2009, 03:45 PM
That's what happens when you sign stuff and you really don't want to. Why did you sign those whatevers if you did not agree with their content?
When we lived in Orlando we had a home in a subdivision also but never were require to sign anything other than legal papers for purchasing the home.
Perhaps it was because we did not purchase the land, just the home.
Course that what it sounds like here. The developer has the right to say what you can or cannot do with your land as well as your home. Kind of smacks of a "Big Brother" thing to me.
NJblue
01-23-2009, 06:09 PM
Kind of smacks of a "Big Brother" thing to me.
Yup and everyone voluntarily decided that that was the lifestyle that they agred to abide by. Those who didn't could just as easily buy a place just outside TV and be free to do pretty much as they please.
Life has many choices. One thing that we all learn as we go through it is that we must learn to live with the consequences of those choices.
downeaster
01-24-2009, 11:58 AM
Most subdivisions built out in Florida in the last few years have deed restrictions. They are not limited to adult communities or to Community Development Districts. I moved to a subdivision in 1987 that had a rule, among others, that garage doors could not be left open. That was when the subdivision was new.
After 10 years of non activity the Homeowners Association along with the covenants were abandoned. Then the ugly sheds, detached garages. motor home storage sheds, etc. started sprouting up. It wasn't nice.
Be thankful that is unlikely to happen in a CDD like ours.
Barefoot
01-24-2009, 02:00 PM
[QUOTE=downeaster;184828]After 10 years of non activity the Homeowners Association along with the covenants were abandoned. Then the ugly sheds, detached garages. motor home storage sheds, etc. started sprouting up. It wasn't nice. Be thankful that is unlikely to happen in a CDD like ours/QUOTE]
Exactly. I am thankful for the covenants. :bowdown::bowdown:
graciegirl
01-24-2009, 03:11 PM
Most subdivisions built in Cincinnati in the last thirty years have deed restrictions. No boats or RVs parked for more than 24 hours. Any additions to the home must be approved by the architectural committee. No sheds, no doghouses and no swingsets not made of wood. Etc. Etc. You break the rules and you get a lien on your home. It isn't just in Florida. It is everywhere. You have the choice to not buy or build in one of them. Personally I like the rules.
KayakerNC
01-24-2009, 03:36 PM
Most subdivisions built in Cincinnati in the last thirty years have deed restrictions. No boats or RVs parked for more than 24 hours. Any additions to the home must be approved by the architectural committee. No sheds, no doghouses and no swingsets not made of wood. Etc. Etc. You break the rules and you get a lien on your home. It isn't just in Florida. It is everywhere. You have the choice to not buy or build in one of them. Personally I like the rules.
:agree:EXACTLY! :agree:
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