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Guest
06-06-2016, 07:59 AM
For just one day might we be able to put aside our political bickering and reflect with gratitude what our Nation`s young men and women accomplished and sacrificed so many years ago .

Guest
06-06-2016, 08:29 AM
For just one day might we be able to put aside our political bickering and reflect with gratitude what our Nation`s young men and women accomplished and sacrificed so many years ago .

Needless deaths...they always are.

Guest
06-06-2016, 08:45 AM
Needless deaths...they always are.

Unfortunately the only way to stop something like the Third Reich is with bloody battles. Demagogues stirring up people on hatred, bigotry and lies can do a great deal of damage especially if the cultural, economic, and social factors are there-- like they were in the 1930s-- to put fascist governments in power where there were no checks-and-balances and little if no respect for the Constitutions and Human Rights let alone International Laws.

Guest
06-06-2016, 08:48 AM
A History of Hitler's Empire, 2nd Edition | The Great Courses (http://www.thegreatcourses.com/courses/history/modern-history-europe/history-of-hitler-s-empire-2nd-edition.html)

The Great Courses have good materials on recent history.

Guest
06-06-2016, 09:05 AM
Unfortunately the only way to stop something like the Third Reich is with bloody battles. Demagogues stirring up people on hatred, bigotry and lies can do a great deal of damage especially if the cultural, economic, and social factors are there-- like they were in the 1930s-- to put fascist governments in power where there were no checks-and-balances and little if no respect for the Constitutions and Human Rights let alone International Laws.

I've got news for you, Germany was forced into war by all the BS they were put through, land taken away, the reparations they were forced to pay, because of WWI. It bankrupted the country and made Germans slaves. It's what brought about the Reich and nationalism.

WWI wasn't over some Duke that nobody liked, it was the entangled treaties and defense alliances that caused it to escalate.

ALL were unnecessary wars.

Guest
06-06-2016, 11:16 AM
All these are things to consider when you are talking about Adolph Trump. He nationalistic views, hatred of Muslims and Mexicans, and totalarism are exactly what Hitler was pitching to the Germans - and see what happened!

Guest
06-06-2016, 11:27 AM
All these are things to consider when you are talking about Adolph Trump. He nationalistic views, hatred of Muslims and Mexicans, and totalarism are exactly what Hitler was pitching to the Germans - and see what happened!

I thought there was a reason that I liked him. Thanks for the reminder. :coolsmiley:

Guest
06-06-2016, 11:29 AM
All these are things to consider when you are talking about Adolph Trump. He nationalistic views, hatred of Muslims and Mexicans, and totalarism are exactly what Hitler was pitching to the Germans - and see what happened!

It seems that Killary and Adolph have more in common.

Guest
06-06-2016, 12:08 PM
[QUOTE=Guest;1237160]I thought there was a reason that I liked him. :ohdear: Thanks for the reminder :blahblahblah:. QUOTE]

So, you are proud to be in favor of Nazism. You are one pitiful piece of pond scum .

I am sure you have passed on your hatred of other religions and races to your ignorant spawn.

Guest
06-06-2016, 12:45 PM
Germany was broke after World War 1. Where did Hitler borrow the money? Where did he buy the oil?

Guest
06-06-2016, 01:03 PM
Germany was broke after World War 1. Where did Hitler borrow the money? Where did he buy the oil?

From rich guys in the U.S. that's where.

Most people are ignorant to the real history.

Guest
06-06-2016, 01:10 PM
From rich guys in the U.S. that's where.

Most people are ignorant to the real history.

Even his " funders " lived to regret it .

Guest
06-06-2016, 03:15 PM
From rich guys in the U.S. that's where.

Most people are ignorant to the real history.Do you get your sources on line? Do you have an opinion on Col. Fletcher Prouty? He's been around a long time.

Guest
06-06-2016, 03:46 PM
Instead of tearing down the forum and setting fire to it, can't you for once allow the OP to make a comment that is not totally diverted to your agenda? On Memorial Day, you don't disparage or question the conflict, you remember the fallen. We have the best country in the world. Why? Because men died for it. Because of them we have the most powerful country, making us relatively free from attack from outside. Whether you LIKE war or not does not mean beans to me. I don't care what you think of war or history. These people served our country honorably and you have NO right to demean that. So, take your tired agenda elsewhere. It's real easy to Monday morning quarterback from your easy chair. I have traveled to and lived in many different countries, longer than I have lived in the U.S.of A. and I have yet to find a better country than ours. Don't try to make us one of the others. We have the best and if that is not good enough for losers that insist on disparaging it, then they can kiss my ****!

Guest
06-06-2016, 04:20 PM
Do you get your sources on line? Do you have an opinion on Col. Fletcher Prouty? He's been around a long time.

Who knows what is true or not? We don't. Probably never will.

I know for a FACT that oftentimes what really happens isn't what is reported in the news, in the history books either. I know that "inquiry panels" and commissions are theater and nothing more.

It's a real shame we're lied to like we are.

People who get their "facts" from the mainstream media really are hopelessly misinformed. They're "propagandized".

Guest
06-06-2016, 04:25 PM
I meant no disrespect for anyone who served. I lost family in WWII but that was before I was born.

I don't think reading about history is unpatriotic. I try to learn something new each day.

I don't believe I have ever tore down the country. I agree it is the best country in the world. Isn't that the reason so many are moving in, or trying to and no one is moving out?

I read that only 5% of the current population lived in America during the Civil War. This is a melting pot.

Guest
06-06-2016, 05:20 PM
I meant no disrespect for anyone who served. I lost family in WWII but that was before I was born.

I don't think reading about history is unpatriotic. I try to learn something new each day.

I don't believe I have ever tore down the country. I agree it is the best country in the world. Isn't that the reason so many are moving in, or trying to and no one is moving out?

I read that only 5% of the current population lived in America during the Civil War. This is a melting pot.

Be careful when reading about history - "His-story" - because that's exactly WHAT history is...someones story.

Many come here because it's better than where they're from. Not the best any more...down around #17 as of late. Many ARE leaving, renouncing their citizenship. The rich are leaving, the poot are coming.

Did you know that more than 25%, 1/4 of the US population is foreign born or the anchor baby born here of immigrant parents? Did you know that as of 6 years ago, "minority" children out number white children? Starting in about 15 years we will be outvoted?

Are you aware your country is becoming 3rd world as it fills with 3rd worlders? The test was here in the US with the mexicans, now it's Europe with the refugees.

It's lost without a shot fired...

Guest
06-06-2016, 05:44 PM
Be careful when reading about history - "His-story" - because that's exactly WHAT history is...someones story.

Many come here because it's better than where they're from. Not the best any more...down around #17 as of late. Many ARE leaving, renouncing their citizenship. The rich are leaving, the poot are coming.

Did you know that more than 25%, 1/4 of the US population is foreign born or the anchor baby born here of immigrant parents? Did you know that as of 6 years ago, "minority" children out number white children? Starting in about 15 years we will be outvoted?

Are you aware your country is becoming 3rd world as it fills with 3rd worlders? The test was here in the US with the mexicans, now it's Europe with the refugees.

It's lost without a shot fired...sorry, I heard this before

Guest
06-06-2016, 05:52 PM
sorry, I heard this before

And you'll passively "fiddle" while your country burns...

You got yours...screw everyone else? Or just too much of a pussy to say anything? What else is there? You like Mexico better than the US?

Guest
06-06-2016, 06:25 PM
And you'll passively "fiddle" while your country burns...

You got yours...screw everyone else? Or just too much of a pussy to say anything? What else is there? You like Mexico better than the US?You have some imagination.

Guest
06-06-2016, 07:09 PM
Be careful when reading about history - "His-story" - because that's exactly WHAT history is...someones story.

Many come here because it's better than where they're from. Not the best any more...down around #17 as of late. Many ARE leaving, renouncing their citizenship. The rich are leaving, the poot are coming.

Did you know that more than 25%, 1/4 of the US population is foreign born or the anchor baby born here of immigrant parents? Did you know that as of 6 years ago, "minority" children out number white children? Starting in about 15 years we will be outvoted?

Are you aware your country is becoming 3rd world as it fills with 3rd worlders? The test was here in the US with the mexicans, now it's Europe with the refugees.

It's lost without a shot fired...

See post #14
Give it a break.

Guest
06-06-2016, 08:19 PM
Instead of tearing down the forum and setting fire to it, can't you for once allow the OP to make a comment that is not totally diverted to your agenda? On Memorial Day, you don't disparage or question the conflict, you remember the fallen. We have the best country in the world. Why? Because men died for it. Because of them we have the most powerful country, making us relatively free from attack from outside. Whether you LIKE war or not does not mean beans to me. I don't care what you think of war or history. These people served our country honorably and you have NO right to demean that. So, take your tired agenda elsewhere. It's real easy to Monday morning quarterback from your easy chair. I have traveled to and lived in many different countries, longer than I have lived in the U.S.of A. and I have yet to find a better country than ours. Don't try to make us one of the others. We have the best and if that is not good enough for losers that insist on disparaging it, then they can kiss my ****!

Thank you many times over ! :bigbow:

Guest
06-07-2016, 03:58 PM
Not the best any more...down around #17 as of late.

Many ARE leaving, renouncing their citizenship. The rich are leaving, the poot are coming.

Did you know that more than 25%, 1/4 of the US population is foreign born or the anchor baby born here of immigrant parents?


Did you know that as of 6 years ago, "minority" children out number white children?

Starting in about 15 years we will be outvoted?

Are you aware your country is becoming 3rd world as it fills with 3rd worlders?

The test was here in the US with the mexicans, now it's Europe with the refugees.


The nation’s foreign-born population increased sharply between 1970 and 2000, but its rate of growth has since slowed, according to a Pew Research Center analysis of U.S. Census Bureau data. Even so, the share of the U.S. population that is foreign born—13.1% in 2013—is approaching a historic high.
U.S. Foreign-Born Population Trends | Pew Research Center (http://www.pewhispanic.org/2015/09/28/chapter-5-u-s-foreign-born-population-trends/)

Guest
06-07-2016, 04:05 PM
Best Countries Ranking Full List | US News Best Countries (http://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/overall-full-list)

USA fourth place

Guest
06-07-2016, 04:10 PM
Racial and ethnic diversity have grown dramatically in the United States in the last three decades. This growth was first evident among children.

In 2014, 52 percent of U.S. children were White, non-Hispanic;
24 percent were Hispanic;
14 percent were Black, non-Hispanic;
5 percent were Asian, non-Hispanic; and
5 percent were non-Hispanic "All other races."

Guest
06-07-2016, 04:13 PM
Name a 3rd world country that seems like it's almost the USA?

Guest
06-07-2016, 04:53 PM
Best Countries Ranking Full List | US News Best Countries (http://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/overall-full-list)

USA fourth place

...and 8 of the top 10 countries listed are "socialist" countries.

Guest
06-07-2016, 04:57 PM
...and 9 of the top 10 have strict laws about private handgun ownership. The USA has the highest murder rate by handgun of any of those top ten countries AND the highest mass murder rate by guns of any of those top 10 countries.

...and this makes us civilized? :popcorn:

Guest
06-07-2016, 05:01 PM
...and the tens of thousands of Americans who were killed in WWI and II died so America would be a leader in the top 10 economic countries in the world in handgun deaths and in mass killings by handguns? :ohdear:

Guest
06-07-2016, 05:16 PM
...and the tens of thousands of Americans who were killed in WWI and II died so America would be a leader in the top 10 economic countries in the world in handgun deaths and in mass killings by handguns? :ohdear:
GDP per capita based on purchasing power parity (PPP). PPP GDP is gross domestic product converted to international dollars using purchasing power parity rates. An international dollar has the same purchasing power over GDP as the U.S. dollar has in the United States.


We are at the top.
$16.8 trillion GDP 318.9 million POPULATION $54,597 GDP PER CAPITA, PPP

I don't see the connection between "handgun deaths and in mass killings by handguns" and WWII. You will have to spell that out.

Guest
06-07-2016, 07:36 PM
Best Countries Ranking Full List | US News Best Countries (http://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/overall-full-list)

USA fourth place

I don't see it that way. America is number one. If you don't see it that way, you should go somewhere else. Unlike that cretin in the White House, I do NOT apologize for the greatness of my country. Do you want to see your ranking go up from 4th to 1st? Cut off foreign aid for a year and see if you don't see the votes come in for us. Just like welfare and liberals. If the Dems cut off welfare you will see voter registration change to the right. Same deal. Buying votes and bribery works.

Guest
06-07-2016, 08:24 PM
I don't see it that way. America is number one. If you don't see it that way, you should go somewhere else. Unlike that cretin in the White House, I do NOT apologize for the greatness of my country. Do you want to see your ranking go up from 4th to 1st? Cut off foreign aid for a year and see if you don't see the votes come in for us. Just like welfare and liberals. If the Dems cut off welfare you will see voter registration change to the right. Same deal. Buying votes and bribery works.When the Yankees beat the Sox 4 games to 3 it doesn't matter very much that you don't see it that way.

I don't care if my ranking goes up. I just want the middle class to return. Let's make America Great again when the money was more evenly distributed. Why do a handful of people need to be as rich as Putin and Kim Jong-Un?

Guest
06-08-2016, 04:13 AM
When the Yankees beat the Sox 4 games to 3 it doesn't matter very much that you don't see it that way.

I don't care if my ranking goes up. I just want the middle class to return. Let's make America Great again when the money was more evenly distributed. Why do a handful of people need to be as rich as Putin and Kim Jong-Un?

So, you feel we should reward the lazy and penalize the motivated-wealthy. Got it. Another socialist. Spread the wealth, right? Real Americans are not lazy, and not jealous of their betters.

Guest
06-08-2016, 05:33 AM
GDP per capita based on purchasing power parity (PPP). PPP GDP is gross domestic product converted to international dollars using purchasing power parity rates. An international dollar has the same purchasing power over GDP as the U.S. dollar has in the United States.


We are at the top.
$16.8 trillion GDP 318.9 million POPULATION $54,597 GDP PER CAPITA, PPP


Can anyone explain this to me [the $54,597]? It looks to me like everyone is doing quite well?

Guest
06-08-2016, 09:05 PM
I don't see the connection between "handgun deaths and in mass killings by handguns" and WWII. You will have to spell that out.

Do you believe the American soldiers fought so future generations of Americans could brag they have the 2nd Amendment intact - and proudly say that the USA has the highest murder rate by handguns and mass killings by guns of the top ten civilized countries?

Guest
06-08-2016, 09:34 PM
Do you believe the American soldiers fought so future generations of Americans could brag they have the 2nd Amendment intact - and proudly say that the USA has the highest murder rate by handguns and mass killings by guns of the top ten civilized countries?no, I don't.

Guest
06-09-2016, 04:32 AM
Do you believe the American soldiers fought so future generations of Americans could brag they have the 2nd Amendment intact - and proudly say that the USA has the highest murder rate by handguns and mass killings by guns of the top ten civilized countries?

More left wing false propaganda. You are always on the wrong end of the gun argument. Liberals always assume that if we had less guns, there would be less violent deaths. So naive. All that does is put the power in the hands of the bad guy, and there is MORE crime. So naive.

Guest
06-09-2016, 06:08 AM
Do you believe the American soldiers fought so future generations of Americans could brag they have the 2nd Amendment intact - and proudly say that the USA has the highest murder rate by handguns and mass killings by guns of the top ten civilized countries?

What demographic does most of the killing? Inner city minorities. THAT is what we need to get rid of. They are what bring ALL our statistics down.

More left wing false propaganda. You are always on the wrong end of the gun argument. Liberals always assume that if we had less guns, there would be less violent deaths. So naive. All that does is put the power in the hands of the bad guy, and there is MORE crime. So naive.

When will re finally accept the fact that it's THEM.

Guest
06-09-2016, 07:35 AM
So, you feel we should reward the lazy and penalize the motivated-wealthy. Got it. Another socialist. Spread the wealth, right? Real Americans are not lazy, and not jealous of their betters.

Really? A dictator? An ex-KGB with brutal politics?

You call them the "motivated-wealthy"? That's what you want to parade out as "successful"? They're brutal psychopaths. The world needs less of either of them.

Ah...yes they are...or will be soon. Lazy minorities ARE jealous of their betters. A black man made it to the presidency, time for the excuses to stop. Time for quotas and affirmative action to stop.

Guest
06-09-2016, 07:41 AM
More left wing false propaganda. You are always on the wrong end of the gun argument. Liberals always assume that if we had less guns, there would be less violent deaths. So naive. All that does is put the power in the hands of the bad guy, and there is MORE crime. So naive.

Without the available guns, would Sandy Hook have happened?

Would Columbine have happened?

Guest
06-09-2016, 08:28 AM
Without the available guns, would Sandy Hook have happened?

Would Columbine have happened?

Without mind altering SSRI drugs, would EITHER have happened?

Don't be so quick to surrender an essential right for the wrong reasons.

If you want to ban guns then at least use the example that best describes the "gun problem", minority gang members in the inner cities kill many thousands a year. Many are never reported, the body dumped and nobody cares or misses them outside the gang. There is where the "gun problem" really exists. Why don't you use that as your example? It doesn't "fit" your "equality" meme?

Maybe we'd all start questioning, asking..."what's REALLY wrong with these people, why do they act and live so differently than we do?". I've asked that question and my answer was...it's them, they're different. What is your answer? It's my fault? My "people" have held them down unfairly?

Guest
06-09-2016, 09:54 AM
Without the available guns, would Sandy Hook have happened?

Would Columbine have happened?

Yes, it would. The areas of our country that have the strictest gun laws have the highest rate of gun related deaths. Countries such as the UK have higher knife related murders than we do, therefore it is safe to say that when they don't have guns, the substitute is also lethal. And last year the UK had anti-knife campaigns going. Then it will be bats, etc. You can't get rid of violence by getting rid of any potential weapon. You lower the chance of being a victim of violence by allowing each citizen the choice to defend themselves, and have strict enforcement of laws with strict penalties for violating those laws.

Yes, some form of Sandy Hook and Columbine would have happened.

Guest
06-09-2016, 12:09 PM
Yes, it would. The areas of our country that have the strictest gun laws have the highest rate of gun related deaths. Countries such as the UK have higher knife related murders than we do, therefore it is safe to say that when they don't have guns, the substitute is also lethal. And last year the UK had anti-knife campaigns going. Then it will be bats, etc. You can't get rid of violence by getting rid of any potential weapon. You lower the chance of being a victim of violence by allowing each citizen the choice to defend themselves, and have strict enforcement of laws with strict penalties for violating those laws.

Yes, some form of Sandy Hook and Columbine would have happened.

You lower your chance the MOST by staying as far away as possible from "minorities"...that is a simple FACT. The less diverse an area, the less violent it is...that's a FACT.

Strict enforcement would mean 90% of the minority population would be locked up, that's racist. Too expensive too.

In both cases, they were on SSRI drugs.
Sandy Hook and Columbine - Google Search (https://www.google.com/search?q=Sandy+Hook+and+Columbine&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=Sandy+Hook+and+Columbine+SSRI+drugs)

Guest
06-09-2016, 01:45 PM
Perhaps a D-day documentary is needed to get us back to the beginning of this thread.

Operation Overlord & Neptune (D-Day documentary) - YouTube (https://youtu.be/dIjmOcp_xhQ)

Guest
06-09-2016, 04:27 PM
I do not know if there is one or perhaps more than one but the moronic comments being repeated ad nauseam topic after topic have convinced me that I need to take a break from Political Talk. It just is not enjoyable .

Personal Best Reards:

Guest
06-09-2016, 05:21 PM
Perhaps a D-day documentary is needed to get us back to the beginning of this thread.

Operation Overlord & Neptune (D-Day documentary) - YouTube (https://youtu.be/dIjmOcp_xhQ)

Thank you. Someone always comes along that insists on diverting the thread to their own agenda.

Guest
06-09-2016, 05:22 PM
I do not know if there is one or perhaps more than one but the moronic comments being repeated ad nauseam topic after topic have convinced me that I need to take a break from Political Talk. It just is not enjoyable .

Personal Best Reards:

I hope you stay, but understand how you feel.

Guest
06-10-2016, 07:14 AM
Perhaps a D-day documentary is needed to get us back to the beginning of this thread.

Operation Overlord & Neptune (D-Day documentary) - YouTube (https://youtu.be/dIjmOcp_xhQ)

Shouldn't have been there...many lives needlessly lost.

Don't believe the winners propaganda of why we HAD to be in that war.

I do not know if there is one or perhaps more than one but the moronic comments being repeated ad nauseam topic after topic have convinced me that I need to take a break from Political Talk. It just is not enjoyable .

Personal Best Reards:

Because they disagree with you they're "moronic", perhaps they think the same of your comments?

Maybe you're just tired of losing the arguments?

People like to ignore what disagrees with their position and rally behind things that agree. Maybe you should think about your position?

Guest
06-10-2016, 07:39 AM
Because they disagree with you they're "moronic", perhaps they think the same of your comments?I think it's only one person, you, who have taken over the thread.

I understand PBR leaving. I'll open the site up hoping for something a little different, or interesting and it's you.

If there are others who agree with you now would be a good time to speak up.

Guest
06-10-2016, 07:58 AM
He is neither conservative nor liberal, but claims to be libertarian. I just ignore him and he usually runs out of steam eventually and moves on. He's probably a lonely person and feels the need for interaction with others but is too afraid of running into a minority to leave his home. I do not believe that we should all go away and allow him the satisfaction of closing down the forum any more than that one libtard that insists on immature baiting. We can still have a decent discussion if we just skip over both of their posts and continue on. This is a very important election cycle and we should be able to speak bluntly without going into racist rants.

Guest
06-10-2016, 08:02 AM
We got rid of one Reactionary!

Guest
06-10-2016, 08:30 AM
obsession
Etymology: L, obsidere, to haunt
a persistent and recurrent thought or idea with which the mind is continually and involuntarily preoccupied and that cannot be expunged by logic or reasoning.

Guest
06-10-2016, 08:33 AM
He is neither conservative nor liberal, but claims to be libertarian. I just ignore him and he usually runs out of steam eventually and moves on. He's probably a lonely person and feels the need for interaction with others but is too afraid of running into a minority to leave his home. I do not believe that we should all go away and allow him the satisfaction of closing down the forum any more than that one libtard that insists on immature baiting. We can still have a decent discussion if we just skip over both of their posts and continue on. This is a very important election cycle and we should be able to speak bluntly without going into racist rants.

With your heads in the sand? I love a decent discussion...where EVERYTHING is on the table. That's the problem with a "decent" discussion, political correctness doesn't lead to the truth.

Opinions and wishes aren't facts. Got some FACTS to to go along with your retort?

Everything I've said is verifiable fact. Counter it.

Guest
06-10-2016, 08:42 AM
With your heads in the sand? I love a decent discussion...where EVERYTHING is on the table. That's the problem with a "decent" discussion, political correctness doesn't lead to the truth.

Opinions and wishes aren't facts. Got some FACTS to to go along with your retort?

Everything I've said is verifiable fact. Counter it.

:icon_bored:....:blahblahblah:

Guest
06-10-2016, 08:44 AM
obsession
Etymology: L, obsidere, to haunt
a persistent and recurrent thought or idea with which the mind is continually and involuntarily preoccupied and that cannot be expunged by logic or reasoning.

Describes liberals and those who vehemently support the "equality" meme.

Logic says I'm right. Real world experience says I'm right. Statistics say I'm right. The nightly news says I'm right. Imprisonment rates say I'm right. Welfare rates say I'm right. Education numbers say I'm right. Their violence says I'm right. Their dirtiness says I'm right. Their lack of a family says I'm right. What more do you need to convince you how different we are at basic levels?

Am I obsessed? In my desire to get you to open up your eyes and see what the promotion of equality and diversity is doing in the real world. We're literally losing "The West" to the 3rd world.

I want to know why you don't see it or you don't care.

Majority rules, those who snuck in, those who are incapable, are taking over...it's like the movie "Idiocracy"...we'll soon all be ignorant living in 3rd world conditions. I'm trying to save you from this.

Guest
06-10-2016, 08:50 AM
Describes liberals and those who vehemently support the "equality" meme.

Logic says I'm right. Real world experience says I'm right. Statistics say I'm right. The nightly news says I'm right. Imprisonment rates say I'm right. Welfare rates say I'm right. Education numbers say I'm right. Their violence says I'm right. Their dirtiness says I'm right. Their lack of a family says I'm right. What more do you need to convince you how different we are at basic levels?

Am I obsessed? In my desire to get you to open up your eyes and see what the promotion of equality and diversity is doing in the real world. We're literally losing "The West" to the 3rd world.

I want to know why you don't see it or you don't care.

Majority rules, those who snuck in, those who are incapable, are taking over...it's like the movie "Idiocracy"...we'll soon all be ignorant living in 3rd world conditions. I'm trying to save you from this.

You're a liberal and socialist also. Why fight with them? A libertarian is liberal and is synonymous with socialist. Look it up. Kind of like being a blind black racist. You rant and rave against your own kind until someone tells you that you are black. Kind of crushes your whole agenda, right?

Guest
06-10-2016, 09:06 AM
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Guest
06-10-2016, 09:13 AM
You're a liberal and socialist also. Why fight with them? A libertarian is liberal and is synonymous with socialist. Look it up. Kind of like being a blind black racist. You rant and rave against your own kind until someone tells you that you are black. Kind of crushes your whole agenda, right?

I'm an independent. Some areas I'm liberal, others conservative, whatever FITS best for the situation.

Many liberals are also into equality and diversity. Many conservatives are not.

Yes, I'm a blind black racist...I'm fighting my own people trying to get them to change. If I was black I'd be on black forums trying to get everyone to get with the program. Show whitey we really ARE equal by bettering ourselves. But no, most blacks wouldn't be caught dead here having a decent discussion on the whys of racism. It's not what they do. There's a LOT that "isn't what they do". They're not like us...it's a fact.

I still ask...why don't you see the eventual destruction as they become the majority and why don't you care?

It's like a club...it starts with all members who agree and like each other. Then someone brings in "that guy", the one that is different. You want to be polite, so you don't say anything. Then, down the road he brings in HIS friend. He's different too. Then they bring in another who is different. Soon, the original members leave because they don't like the club any more.

Our club, is the US. "They" are changing it, I'm saying I don't like it, before it's too late. You should join me if you like your club the way it is/was.

Guest
06-10-2016, 09:21 AM
Guns Germs Steel

Liberal BS. How about "The Bell Curve".

How about a stroll through the "diversified" parts of Newark, New Haven, Elizabeth, Baltimore, DC, Atlanta, Montgomery, Birmingham, Memphis...well you get the point. All mostly black...didn't see any "paradises" there...do you know of ANY?

We really are quite different people. Looks are just the surface.

We were all convinced of equality 50 years ago, they've had special treatment ever since, what happened? Why are they worse off?

With all the welfare and benefits available to them, they can make the equivalent of $60,000 a year, so WHY do they live like they do? It's STILL "our fault"? How? They get preferential treatment at work, school, the government, everywhere. Nobody will DARE to correct them in public. If they were smarter, they'd realize how good they have it.

Guest
06-10-2016, 09:36 AM
Not everyone enjoys history and political talk. Would it hurt to watch the PBS special before dismissing it?

Why Are Highly Educated Americans Getting More Liberal? : NPR (http://www.npr.org/2016/04/30/475794063/why-are-highly-educated-americans-getting-more-liberal)

Guest
06-10-2016, 10:33 AM
Not everyone enjoys history and political talk. Would it hurt to watch the PBS special before dismissing it?

Why Are Highly Educated Americans Getting More Liberal? : NPR (http://www.npr.org/2016/04/30/475794063/why-are-highly-educated-americans-getting-more-liberal)

Are you talking about Guns, Germs, Steel? I read the book. That's why I suggested "The Bell Curve" as a counter point. It teaches what I personally believe, it's genetics. EVERYTHING in the real world points to that conclusion. EVERYTHING in past history points to that conclusion.

As for your link above... It's demographics. Women and minorities have increased their percentages in universities through affirmative action and quotas. White men went from being a majority to a minority. The majors have changed from STEM to the humanities and women's/minority's studies. It's demographics.

Besides, our educators and educational system is now #17 in the world. Not the best any more.

Guest
06-10-2016, 10:44 AM
Are you talking about Guns, Germs, Steel? personally believe, it's genetics. EVERYTHING in the real world points to that conclusion. EVERYTHING in past history points to that conclusion.

If you read the book then you would know it does not point at genetics.
So you can't say everything points to genetics.

Everything you want to believe points to genetics.

Top World University Rankings | US News Best Global Universities (http://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/rankings)

Genetically are women and minorities predisposed to higher education?

Guest
06-10-2016, 11:03 AM
If you read the book then you would know it does not point at genetics.
So you can't say everything points to genetics.

Everything you want to believe points to genetics.

Top World University Rankings | US News Best Global Universities (http://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/rankings)

Genetically are women and minorities predisposed to higher education?

If you read better, you'd find genetics is in MY book recommendation. They're on average 20 points lower. "I" said everything points to genetics.

Sure...affirmative action and quotas...that's why there are more women and minorities than white men. It's the ONLY reason. Only 5% of affirmative action "students" graduate. Only 25% make it past the first year. It's literally a wasted slot.

Schools are liberal because they're full of women and women are liberal. They can afford to be. When things get bad, they can marry and have a husband take care of everything. They can pop out a kid and automatically qualify for up to $60,000 a year in welfare benefits.

The only one who has to survive on his wits and struggle to survive is a white man. And we do it with the deck stacked against us. No wonder we die younger.

Guest
06-10-2016, 11:39 AM
If you read better, you'd find genetics is in MY book recommendation.

one point at a time

EVERYTHING in the real world points to that conclusion. EVERYTHING in past history points to that conclusion.


Everything you believe, not everything.

Guest
06-10-2016, 12:21 PM
one point at a time

EVERYTHING in the real world points to that conclusion. EVERYTHING in past history points to that conclusion.


Everything you believe, not everything.

OK...touche, not EVERYTHING...ALMOST everything...better?

Give me examples, not ONE isolated incident...where they are the BEST. I admit they excel in sports because that is closer to their roots. They RARELY excel in intellectual or management endeavors.

Give me the black Einstein, the black Rockefeller, Hearst, JP Morgan, etc. If a black is famous, it's for doing something for blacks, rarely anything else.

You'll come back with Eli Whitney, cotton gin, did HE invent it? Doubtful. But mechanization DID end slavery, it wasn't anything else. No noble cause. Machines did 10X the work without complaining.

MLK? Malcom X, Harriet Tubman? Only blacks benefited.

There is nothing to convince a sane person that we are equal. They were "discovered" as stone age, no wheel, no written language, cave men. In Africa many still do. That's what they turn even modern housing into, shells, huts. They live in squalor everywhere they're left to their own devices.

EVERY post tells me I'm wrong and I've yet to be shown any evidence I'm wrong. A movie? REAL LIFE...show me in real life how equal they are.

Guest
06-10-2016, 12:37 PM
OK...touche, not EVERYTHING...ALMOST everything...better?

Give me examples, not ONE isolated incident...where they are the BEST. I admit they excel in sports because that is closer to their roots. They RARELY excel in intellectual or management endeavors.

Give me the black Einstein, the black Rockefeller, Hearst, JP Morgan, etc. If a black is famous, it's for doing something for blacks, rarely anything else.

You'll come back with Eli Whitney, cotton gin, did HE invent it? Doubtful. But mechanization DID end slavery, it wasn't anything else. No noble cause. Machines did 10X the work without complaining.

MLK? Malcom X, Harriet Tubman? Only blacks benefited.

There is nothing to convince a sane person that we are equal. They were "discovered" as stone age, no wheel, no written language, cave men. In Africa many still do. That's what they turn even modern housing into, shells, huts. They live in squalor everywhere they're left to their own devices.

EVERY post tells me I'm wrong and I've yet to be shown any evidence I'm wrong. A movie? REAL LIFE...show me in real life how equal they are.

You don't want to hear the truth. And you are a legend in your own mind...:D

Guest
06-10-2016, 12:53 PM
You don't want to hear the truth. And you are a legend in your own mind...:D

What truth? A PBS special? Full of propaganda?

I want a real world example of blacks being better at anything besides sports. Sports is THEIR specialty, not intellectualism. Why can't you admit that? Give me examples of their greatness...

crickets

I wish I was a legend, maybe then I could get through to you. No, I just woke up a few years ago, when I retired, I had the chance to think, about different things. What I found was disturbing. Like the fact that from age 6 down THEY are the majority. You have NO IDEA what a profound, what a devastating, change is coming. No idea. Life as we knew it, will end.

Guest
06-10-2016, 02:48 PM
What truth? A PBS special? Full of propaganda?

I want a real world example of blacks being better at anything besides sports. Sports is THEIR specialty, not intellectualism. Why can't you admit that? Give me examples of their greatness...

crickets

I wish I was a legend, maybe then I could get through to you. No, I just woke up a few years ago, when I retired, I had the chance to think, about different things. What I found was disturbing. Like the fact that from age 6 down THEY are the majority. You have NO IDEA what a profound, what a devastating, change is coming. No idea. Life as we knew it, will end.

Learn to live with it.

Guest
06-10-2016, 04:00 PM
Learn to live with it.

Tell that to your grandchildren. Remind them of how great the good old days were...but they won't get any of that. Grandpa and Grandmas generation thought it "fair" to give the country away to those less fortunate. So they stopped having kids themselves and imported about 50 million Hispanics to do it for them. We convinced ourselves this would never happen. We thought they'd assimilate, blend right in. We didn't know they'd take over.

Oh well...sorry kid.

They've already invaded radio with half the stations spanish. They have their own TV networks and packages. Press one for spanish will soon be in spanish for an english option.