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alwann
06-07-2016, 11:42 AM
According to a posting on msn.com, The Villages is one of the most stressed out places among U.S. cities.

3. THE VILLAGES, FLORIDA
> Total population: 114,350
> Poverty rate: 9.3%
> Avg. weekly hours worked: 39.3
> Unemployment rate: 7.7%
> Violent crime rate (per 100,000 people): 421
> Pct. of adults in fair/poor health: 14.8%

I flunked statistics and suspect the person who compiled these data did so too. Poverty? Yeah, no income other than savings and social security. Unemployment? Sure, we're mostly retired. Violent crime? Yeah, those damn line dancers again. Health? Well, I do see a lot of my neighbors at the doctor's. Comes with this time of life, doesn't it? Surely some surrounding communities were included. Our population isn't this high --- yet.

Challenger
06-07-2016, 12:02 PM
According to a posting on msn.com, The Villages is one of the most stressed out places among U.S. cities.

3. THE VILLAGES, FLORIDA
> Total population: 114,350
> Poverty rate: 9.3%
> Avg. weekly hours worked: 39.3
> Unemployment rate: 7.7%
> Violent crime rate (per 100,000 people): 421
> Pct. of adults in fair/poor health: 14.8%

I flunked statistics and suspect the person who compiled these data did so too. Poverty? Yeah, no income other than savings and social security. Unemployment? Sure, we're mostly retired. Violent crime? Yeah, those damn line dancers again. Health? Well, I do see a lot of my neighbors at the doctor's. Comes with this time of life, doesn't it? Surely some surrounding communities were included. Our population isn't this high --- yet.

Most crime statistics are accumulated by political subdivision. I find these to be suspect. Three counties, Three Cities. How were the boundaries of The Villages Determined???

rubicon
06-07-2016, 01:48 PM
According to a posting on msn.com, The Villages is one of the most stressed out places among U.S. cities.

3. THE VILLAGES, FLORIDA
> Total population: 114,350
> Poverty rate: 9.3%
> Avg. weekly hours worked: 39.3
> Unemployment rate: 7.7%
> Violent crime rate (per 100,000 people): 421
> Pct. of adults in fair/poor health: 14.8%

I flunked statistics and suspect the person who compiled these data did so too. Poverty? Yeah, no income other than savings and social security. Unemployment? Sure, we're mostly retired. Violent crime? Yeah, those damn line dancers again. Health? Well, I do see a lot of my neighbors at the doctor's. Comes with this time of life, doesn't it? Surely some surrounding communities were included. Our population isn't this high --- yet.

Perhaps the employment data excluded retirees? The population figure seems low I am told its more like 130,000 and I suspect the health data is wrong also seems too low for an aging population .
I do not know what violent crime means ????

finally studies like this and the best city in America best place to retire etc are seldom meaningful. and in this case stress"" the operative word in this study is subjective

2BNTV
06-07-2016, 01:59 PM
I remember a friend of mine used to say, "a horse and a chair have four legs". Therefore a chair is the same as a horse?

Statistics can be manipulated, anyway a person wants something to look like. IMHO

I don't put much faith into some findings especially health and food studies. Again, they can be slanted towards the view, the writer wants to take.

Chatbrat
06-07-2016, 02:14 PM
If anyone wants lessons on statistics, look@ the old soviet union, with their 5 year plans everything looked great till the house of cards collapsed !!

twoplanekid
06-07-2016, 02:23 PM
here is the link to the online article -> 25 Most Stressed-Out Cities - 24/7 Wall St. (http://247wallst.com/special-report/2016/04/27/25-most-stressed-out-cities/)

NYGUY
06-07-2016, 02:35 PM
You might want to read this book: Amazon.com: How to Lie with Statistics (9780393310726): Darrell Huff, Irving Geis: Books (http://www.amazon.com/How-Lie-Statistics-Darrell-Huff/dp/0393310728)

perrjojo
06-07-2016, 02:48 PM
I know many of these cities and I don't believe they are among the most stressed. A crime rate comporable to Houston, TX and Detroit? No way! Stress? Which course to play? Work hours? I guess if they count golf and MahJong.

looneycat
06-07-2016, 02:49 PM
here is the link to the online article -> 25 Most Stressed-Out Cities - 24/7 Wall St. (http://247wallst.com/special-report/2016/04/27/25-most-stressed-out-cities/)

yep, the stats are totally off. if hours worked were 39/wk then everyone living here is still working full time. that alone is enough to impeach all the stats. if it does in fact represent the residents then that avg would have to be more like 2 hours a week, and that might be high !

Nucky
06-07-2016, 02:49 PM
:spoken:You know the old saying numbers don't lie? Forget it. Numbers don't lie people lie! I'm thinking of a number rite now. I'm holding one hand up. Guess how many fingers are up? That's what I think about statistics unless I compile them myself. :spoken:

flyerguy
06-07-2016, 03:03 PM
Perhaps they monitor TOTV and see how stressed out the populations on this site gets every time a new 'Doggie Poop' thread starts up.

Aloha1
06-07-2016, 03:37 PM
Reminds me of the old adage: "There are liars, damn liars, and statisticians."

Jima64
06-07-2016, 03:42 PM
Just the listed hours worked makes me not believe it untill they explain the working people they are talking about. Does it include non residents?

legendlake
06-07-2016, 04:07 PM
The Huffington Post reported that The Villages was the 3rd most stressful city in the country. Hard to believe.

Top 10 Most Stressed-Out Cities (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/top-10-stressed-out-cities_us_5723af05e4b0f309baf0d54e)

joldnol
06-07-2016, 04:08 PM
what's there to be stressed at other than poor drivers

joldnol
06-07-2016, 04:10 PM
I just looked at it and it must include the poverty and crime in lady lake and wildwood.

Birdie Dreamer
06-07-2016, 04:26 PM
I know that I for one am stressed every morning when I get up and have to decide what I want to play today. As opposed to the previous forty years when I did not have to make any decision. Just knew I had to go to work no matter what.

Jim 9922
06-07-2016, 04:31 PM
I just knew that dog poop, round-abouts, "speeding" golf carts, non-use of turn signals, and chair saving would eventually get to us all!!:popcorn:

justjim
06-07-2016, 04:56 PM
OP, don't get stressed out over this report because The Developer and his staff of lawyers will handle this issue for you. Carry on. Fore.

RickeyD
06-07-2016, 05:12 PM
Obviously much research was done prior to publishing these results. The Huffington Post is the source I will now go to for accurate information. :bigbow:

justjim
06-07-2016, 05:23 PM
I remember a friend of mine used to say, "a horse and a chair have four legs". Therefore a chair is the same as a horse?

Statistics can be manipulated, anyway a person wants something to look like. IMHO

I don't put much faith into some findings especially health and food studies. Again, they can be slanted towards the view, the writer wants to take.

2B, I like your friends analogy. I doubt any of TOTV posters are going to loose any sleep over this report.

bagboy
06-07-2016, 05:54 PM
After carefully considering Detroit, East St. Louis, Chicago, Harlem, Baltimore, and south central LA as the place we will retire to and enjoy the rest of our lives, we opted for The Villages. I didn't realize the last six years were so miserable. On to Rio I guess...

chuckinca
06-07-2016, 06:28 PM
7 of the 10 most stressed out cities are in Texas.

Looks like they are overworked and under paid.

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Taltarzac725
06-07-2016, 06:43 PM
The Huffington Post reported that The Villages was the 3rd most stressful city in the country. Hard to believe.

Top 10 Most Stressed-Out Cities (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/top-10-stressed-out-cities_us_5723af05e4b0f309baf0d54e)

Must be talking to Andrew Blechman. Andrew D. Blechman - author of LEISUREVILLE and PIGEONS (http://andrewblechman.com/leisureville/)

I cannot get the reasoning for this? Too many people on the golf courses at once? Cannot find a seat at Bonefish Grill? Yankees losing? Patriots winning? Overdue library book?

Bosoxfan
06-07-2016, 07:56 PM
Just a thought but seems to me more & more of The Villages geriatric population are arming themselves. I don't know about you but this is stressing me out.

Fredster
06-07-2016, 08:07 PM
Just a thought but seems to me more & more of The Villages geriatric population are arming themselves. I don't know about you but this is stressing me out.

Can you please share what specifically led you to that conclusion?

onslowe
06-07-2016, 08:17 PM
[QUOTE=RickeyD;1237804]Obviously much research was done prior to publishing these results. The Huffington Post is the source I will now go to for accurate information. :bigbow:[/QUOTE

Right on the money. Makes me wonder…..
Who did they poll/interview? "Stand your ground" seat savers at the Market square concerts around happy hour?

I really thought I was having the best time of my life. Thank goodness the smart folks in the DC Beltway can set me right… :(

Buffalo Jim
06-07-2016, 08:46 PM
The Huffington Post is setting the stage for their suggestion that we would all benefit if Section 8 Housing was forced into each zip code of the Villages .

Taltarzac725
06-07-2016, 09:25 PM
Just a thought but seems to me more & more of The Villages geriatric population are arming themselves. I don't know about you but this is stressing me out.

Most of these already were armed except maybe for the woman I know who heard a noise near her closet and shot her vacuum cleaner. I guess she had not put it away right. And she had a loaded revolver near her night stand.

Just must have thought she was a Soprano or Corleone.

Chi-Town
06-07-2016, 09:35 PM
The Huffington Post is setting the stage for their suggestion that we would all benefit if Section 8 Housing was forced into each zip code of the Villages .


The Huffington Post made a suggestion about us benefitting from Section 8 housing? How did you arrive at that? Hope it's not wishful thinking.

Taltarzac725
06-07-2016, 10:00 PM
I hope it has nothing to do with my 224 613 Project? That would be associated more with Reno, NV; Minneapolis, MN; Rohnert Park, CA; Palm Harbor, FL; Itasca, IL; and some other places more than with the Villages, FL. DC, NYC, LA, Denver, Boston, Chicago, New Orleans, and other cities as well. To see what I mean Google Taltarzac725.

The documents rarely mention the Villages, FL. And I have been doing a lot of work on Facebook and I could really be anywhere in the world to post on there.

NECHFalcon68
06-07-2016, 10:02 PM
I suspect this article was originally intended for The Onion. They said they used the two main causes of stress- money and work - to determine the listing. With the Villages unemployed index being listed as 7.7% I am stressed thinking that I am part of the 7.7%...and 9% of us are poor....

And the data was all taken from Government indexes...so that sort of makes the weekly reports on unemployment and poverty somewhat suspicious...

patfla06
06-07-2016, 11:16 PM
The Villages is a CITY?
You've got to be kidding!

The "source" is the Huffington Post - hardly a source
I would take seriously.

patfla06
06-07-2016, 11:18 PM
The Huffington Post is setting the stage for their suggestion that we would all benefit if Section 8 Housing was forced into each zip code of the Villages .

How about if we insist Section 8 be put next to Arianna Huffington's house (mansion).

rubicon
06-08-2016, 04:05 AM
I furrow my brow every time someone critiques The Villages? What is it about this place that draws so much attention good or bad?

Perhaps its because I am well settled in or perhaps its because I have never been enamored by celebrity, status, class, or glitz. Many cities have unique markers, history, attraction transportation methods.

Cedwards38
06-08-2016, 05:58 AM
This is stressful news. I think I'll take a nap.

graciegirl
06-08-2016, 06:13 AM
This is stressful news. I think I'll take a nap.

Following your lead.

I have decided that most of the stuff that floats in from outside is suspect, including most interpretations of the news.

I believe in the goodness of the folks who surround me and in the serenity of this lovely place I live.

outlaw
06-08-2016, 06:23 AM
Here's the factors:
Total population:114,350
> Poverty rate: 9.3%
> Avg. weekly hours worked: 39.3
> Unemployment rate:7.7%
> Violent crime rate (per 100,000 people): 421
> Pct. of adults in fair/poor health: 14.8%

I thought the health factor would have been the big one. Surprise; unemployment rate (must include surrounding areas), violent crime high (cc anyone). Not surprising; poverty rate (average SS $1000+- per month?)

My favorite comparisons are the best places to retire to: I think Alaska was in the top three in a recent one!

stan the man
06-08-2016, 07:13 AM
Take the chairs out of the village squares And the violent crime rate will drop in half

champion6
06-08-2016, 07:26 AM
Looking at the statistics, my gut tells me these numbers are for The Villages MSA (Metropolitan Statistical Area) which is essentially all of Sumter County.

tuccillo
06-08-2016, 07:29 AM
Isn't something like 80% of the Sumter County population in The Villages?

Looking at the statistics, my gut tells me these numbers are for The Villages MSA (Metropolitan Statistical Area) which is essentially all of Sumter County.

outlaw
06-08-2016, 07:48 AM
Looking at the statistics, my gut tells me these numbers are for The Villages MSA (Metropolitan Statistical Area) which is essentially all of Sumter County.

I think you're right. Most demo data I think would be at the county level, except for maybe the big cities. Also, maybe the analysis combined the 3 counties' data for TV. Who knows. It doesn't take much to skew the data. For instance, take big city violence out of the national stats, and the US is a very safe country. Take the worst couple of city blocks out of the urban areas, and even the big cities look relatively safe.

The Mountaineer
06-08-2016, 08:30 AM
Anyone who has lived in The Villages longer than 2 months knows this is bullcrap. Hell, it's the most relaxing and enjoyable place I've ever lived. Golf. Swimming. Music. Dancing. Cards. Every day is funday in The Villages. If this is stress, I want more of it! How can there be such a high unemployment rate in a senior community where the vast majority are retired? Something doesn't add up here. By a lot. Oh, well, I'll just keep enjoying my long, long winters of fun in The Villages and continue to "delusion" myself.

alwann
06-08-2016, 08:46 AM
I agree. It's bullcrap. But the people who decide where to locate a new Trader Joe's or Wegman's, or whatever, do they know? Hopefully the developer's people are setting the record straight.

Walt.
06-08-2016, 08:53 AM
So... if 9 people were on an elevator and Bill Gates got on then their average net worth would be $6,000,000,000 (give or take a few $$). If Bill got off on the next floor their average new worth would drop by billions.

buzzy
06-08-2016, 08:58 AM
The Sumter county sheriff just addressed the Straight Shooters club, and said that there is practically no crime in The Villages itself, except for a few home burglaries. TV is 80% of Sumter county. Almost all of the county crime is in the remaining 20%. So you have to question what was counted in the study, probably the whole county.

Taltarzac725
06-08-2016, 09:11 AM
American FactFinder - Results (http://factfinder.census.gov/faces/tableservices/jsf/pages/productview.xhtml?src=bkmk)

Seems to be based on this.

jblum315
06-08-2016, 09:39 AM
The Villages is NOT a city. Neither are some of the other places listed, but that's neither here nor there. The fact is they are not retirement communities.

2BNTV
06-08-2016, 11:40 AM
2B, I like your friends analogy. I doubt any of TOTV posters are going to loose any sleep over this report.

Thank you. :smiley:

Looking at the statistics, my gut tells me these numbers are for The Villages MSA (Metropolitan Statistical Area) which is essentially all of Sumter County.

:agree:

Stress is internal. You take it wherever you go and no matter where you live.

I find living in TV to be a very relaxing environment but that's me. :D

RickeyD
06-08-2016, 12:26 PM
The Villages is a CITY?

You've got to be kidding!



The "source" is the Huffington Post - hardly a source

I would take seriously.



City - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/City)

RickeyD
06-08-2016, 01:00 PM
The Villages is NOT a city. Neither are some of the other places listed, but that's neither here nor there. The fact is they are not retirement communities.



12,000 years from now archeologists will unearth TV and what they will find is an intricate system of roads, underground utilities, sewers and 60,000 foundation slabs, 35,000 concrete walls, 55 or so communal pools all within a very small land space. They will determine that this was a very busy resort city.

Ron_Ski
06-08-2016, 01:35 PM
So I thought to myself....Self, what would be the least stressful city? The Huffington Post, helpful as ever, provided the answer. That would be Iowa City, IA where:

Average workweek - 33.4 hrs
Average commute time - 16.3 min
Divorce Rate - 7%
Physical Activity Rate - 60%
Entertainment Est. per 1000 businesses - 14.27
Average Sleep/Night hrs - 7.08

By every metric The Villages has that beat by a mile.

The Least-Stressed Cities in America (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/smartassetcom/least-stressed-cities-america_b_8146778.html)

DonH57
06-08-2016, 02:01 PM
This story stressed me out even more.

Buffalo Jim
06-08-2016, 03:32 PM
How about if we insist Section 8 be put next to Arianna Huffington's house (mansion).

I would be pleased to assist you with that worthwhile project !

Buffalo Jim
06-08-2016, 03:36 PM
I furrow my brow every time someone critiques The Villages? What is it about this place that draws so much attention good or bad?

Perhaps its because I am well settled in or perhaps its because I have never been enamored by celebrity, status, class, or glitz. Many cities have unique markers, history, attraction transportation methods.

I honestly believe it is because most of us moved from Northern States where we were being taxed every which way .
Most of us moved here and took away the ability of those states and localities to keep their hands in our pockets .
Seniors are at the most liquid and highest asset point of their lives . The Taxing authorities back where we came from feel that we have individually and collectively " cheated them " !
If they could they would pass laws that would prevent us from moving away from such tax hungry places as say NY State !!

DonnaandStan
06-08-2016, 03:53 PM
I find being new her is quite stressful. Though our goal is the opposite of that we have never been into extremely busy lives stress is a killer and greatly alters your health. People here seem very stressed to me aka in a big hurry. They way they drive cards and golf carts. We tried attending a card card and good lord it was like being in the hot seat. They must play for games and you must take your turn quickly. They get angry if your winning they get angry if you make a mistake? I find a lot come here and turn even fun activities into a job or work? We love it here and will love it here much more as we find our own pace and groove but must say most here seem to always be in a hurry? Even when you go to the grocery story they check you out so fast as if it's a contest when there is no one behind you in line. LOL Maybe people have their schedules too full? For us we want to enjoy this amazing place and the last thing we want is to find ways to be cranky and always rushing everywhere. We have met tons of nice people but you can't live anywhere that there is not the "queen bee" mentality clicky feel. It takes awhile to find people of like mind. It cost nothing to be kind! Being rude over a card game or any activity is pretty selfish people have to learn a lot here about so many things.

Buffalo Jim
06-08-2016, 04:04 PM
I find being new her is quite stressful. Though our goal is the opposite of that we have never been into extremely busy lives stress is a killer and greatly alters your health. People here seem very stressed to me aka in a big hurry. They way they drive cards and golf carts. We tried attending a card card and good lord it was like being in the hot seat. They must play for games and you must take your turn quickly. They get angry if your winning they get angry if you make a mistake? I find a lot come here and turn even fun activities into a job or work? We love it here and will love it here much more as we find our own pace and groove but must say most here seem to always be in a hurry? Even when you go to the grocery story they check you out so fast as if it's a contest when there is no one behind you in line. LOL Maybe people have their schedules too full? For us we want to enjoy this amazing place and the last thing we want is to find ways to be cranky and always rushing everywhere. We have met tons of nice people but you can't live anywhere that there is not the "queen bee" mentality clicky feel. It takes awhile to find people of like mind. It cost nothing to be kind! Being rude over a card game or any activity is pretty selfish people have to learn a lot here about so many things.

I believe that I know exactly what you are talking about . Yes there are folks who live here who bring that culture down here with them and lord it over everyone else .
For many years of my career I had to commute , work and live among them and I vowed that I would avoid them as much as possible in retirement .
When I can see their ;license plates which indicate where they are from I give them a very wide berth !
Thanks for having the courage to bring this issue up . I have seen an increase in folks from that part of the world over the five years that I have been here and an increase in pushy rude behavior and the same for driving habits associated with the same folks .

jjdees
06-08-2016, 05:08 PM
Without spending a few more milliseconds to really analyze this, I've come to the unwavering conclusion that this entire report is pure unalduterated Bulls...hockey

mtdjed
06-08-2016, 05:45 PM
Seems that most posters disagree with the high level of stress in The Villages. I for one agree with the statistics. Consider all the decisions that we face.

1/ On the 100 yard executive course hole, with 50 yards over water.
Do I use a water ball or just go to the ball drop?
2/ When I get to the Country Club
Do I order my drink now or wait 15 Minutes until Happy Hour?
3/ When driving and I get to a pedestrian crosswalk
Did the pedestrian step out in time or not and should I yield?
4/ When I have a bad restaurant experience
Do I dare post it on TOTV without vetting the restaurant manager?
5/ When I go to the Golf Course and find that my trail fees have expired 1 day ago?
Will I have to again endure the ecstatic starter gleefully announce that my trail fees are expired & I can now have the privilege of paying $4 .

I could go on but it would only drive us one step more toward #1. I

Gerald
06-08-2016, 08:03 PM
I am so stressed out. Today I played golf. Did not make par even once, very bad day. Yesterday went bowling. I bowled a 135. Tonight I went to hear music. I didn't like at least 30% of the songs. Had dinner out and had to wait five minutes before I was given a table. I was going to mow the lawn tomorrow but, the lawn service did it for me today. Played pool at a rec. center near me. Wow I am so bad at that. Then played some cards with friends in the evening. More golf then to pool, tomorrow. I will have to rest soon. So you see so much stress. Forced to play so much, I also hate the way people are always saying hello. Don't they understand the pressure I am under. I watched T.V. so many problems all over the world. If I had the time, I might care. Now I don't remember when to go to work anymore. Wait I am retired I don't think I work any more. Poor me living in the villages.

Fred R
06-08-2016, 08:27 PM
The Huffington Post??? Good God, consider the source. Who in the world believes anything in the Huffington Post

Taltarzac725
06-08-2016, 09:26 PM
So I thought to myself....Self, what would be the least stressful city? The Huffington Post, helpful as ever, provided the answer. That would be Iowa City, IA where:

Average workweek - 33.4 hrs
Average commute time - 16.3 min
Divorce Rate - 7%
Physical Activity Rate - 60%
Entertainment Est. per 1000 businesses - 14.27
Average Sleep/Night hrs - 7.08

By every metric The Villages has that beat by a mile.

The Least-Stressed Cities in America (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/smartassetcom/least-stressed-cities-america_b_8146778.html)


I would not take any of this the least bit seriously. The Least-Stressed Cities in America (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/smartassetcom/least-stressed-cities-america_b_8146778.html)

pauld315
06-09-2016, 12:17 AM
Consider the source

2BNTV
06-09-2016, 11:23 AM
Seems that most posters disagree with the high level of stress in The Villages. I for one agree with the statistics. Consider all the decisions that we face.

1/ On the 100 yard executive course hole, with 50 yards over water.
Do I use a water ball or just go to the ball drop?
2/ When I get to the Country Club
Do I order my drink now or wait 15 Minutes until Happy Hour?
3/ When driving and I get to a pedestrian crosswalk
Did the pedestrian step out in time or not and should I yield?
4/ When I have a bad restaurant experience
Do I dare post it on TOTV without vetting the restaurant manager?
5/ When I go to the Golf Course and find that my trail fees have expired 1 day ago?
Will I have to again endure the ecstatic starter gleefully announce that my trail fees are expired & I can now have the privilege of paying $4 .

I could go on but it would only drive us one step more toward #1. I

I am so stressed out. Today I played golf. Did not make par even once, very bad day. Yesterday went bowling. I bowled a 135. Tonight I went to hear music. I didn't like at least 30% of the songs. Had dinner out and had to wait five minutes before I was given a table. I was going to mow the lawn tomorrow but, the lawn service did it for me today. Played pool at a rec. center near me. Wow I am so bad at that. Then played some cards with friends in the evening. More golf then to pool, tomorrow. I will have to rest soon. So you see so much stress. Forced to play so much, I also hate the way people are always saying hello. Don't they understand the pressure I am under. I watched T.V. so many problems all over the world. If I had the time, I might care. Now I don't remember when to go to work anymore. Wait I am retired I don't think I work any more. Poor me living in the villages.

Two great tongue in cheek posts. :BigApplause: :BigApplause:

Bjeanj
06-09-2016, 12:26 PM
I love the responses, in particular Fred R's. When I read his, I had to laugh. I don't disagree, it just hit my funny bone.

RickeyD
06-10-2016, 11:07 AM
I honestly believe it is because most of us moved from Northern States where we were being taxed every which way .

Most of us moved here and took away the ability of those states and localities to keep their hands in our pockets .

Seniors are at the most liquid and highest asset point of their lives . The Taxing authorities back where we came from feel that we have individually and collectively " cheated them " !

If they could they would pass laws that would prevent us from moving away from such tax hungry places as say NY State !!



I'm looking forward to screwing NYS ! Thanks for all the 401K & IRA tax shelter money I get to keep and never spend in this welfare state once I begin to cash out. I'm even thinking of blowing past the Verrazano without paying with my middle finger pointed way out the window. Adios Amigos [emoji3]
Oh yeah, that toll was supposed to be lifted after the bridge was payed for in like 1983.

Average Guy
06-10-2016, 01:34 PM
The Huffington Post reported that The Villages was the 3rd most stressful city in the country. Hard to believe.

Top 10 Most Stressed-Out Cities (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/top-10-stressed-out-cities_us_5723af05e4b0f309baf0d54e)

A number of posts in this thread have commented on the fact that the source is the Huffington Post. If you actually look at the link given, the Huffington Post article starts out by stating:

"This article was originally published on 24/7 Wall St. "

Furthermore, it states that the conclusions were from the American Psychological Association. They chose what data to use to define stress. There does not seem to be a reason to question the data, it is the way that they defined stress as being caused by money and work that ended up giving The Villages such a high rating.

Finally, government statistics relate to The Villages Metropolitan Statistical Area, not the actual boundaries of The Villages. So some of the data are from areas in Sumter County that do not lie within The Villages.

mac
06-11-2016, 07:25 AM
Go to the link and look at the photo. Looks like a mall. Orlando or Ocala??

Sandtrap328
06-11-2016, 07:45 AM
Go to the link and look at the photo. Looks like a mall. Orlando or Ocala??

No, it is a representation of the new Villages Mall that will feature a Wawa, Trader Joe's, and Nordstrom.

Buffalo Jim
06-11-2016, 08:05 AM
Obviously much research was done prior to publishing these results. The Huffington Post is the source I will now go to for accurate information. :bigbow:

You might want to be careful about any medical advice that they might post ! :(:highfive:

photo1902
06-11-2016, 08:17 AM
Go to the link and look at the photo. Looks like a mall. Orlando or Ocala??

Are you serious?

Buffalo Jim
06-11-2016, 08:22 AM
I'm looking forward to screwing NYS ! Thanks for all the 401K & IRA tax shelter money I get to keep and never spend in this welfare state once I begin to cash out. I'm even thinking of blowing past the Verrazano without paying with my middle finger pointed way out the window. Adios Amigos [emoji3]
Oh yeah, that toll was supposed to be lifted after the bridge was payed for in like 1983.

By the way when you arrive here it is a good idea to obtain an Official Form from the Florida Sec. of State which when filed establishes that you are now an official resident of Florida .

Once you complete the form and file it with the Sec. of State of Florida you then [ as I recall ] send a copy of that form to the Sec. of State for the State of NY .

It`s not a required process however it can save you from a lot of hassle . In my Case the NY State Taxing Authorities seeking more and more revenue challenged me on my State of Domicile .

Fortunately I had the document I described above and also when I completed it but before filing it with both Florida and NY State I had the document Notarized .

Now to all who may be reading this Post . It has been a few years now since I relocated from NY to The Villages . Certain details I may have confused . However the general info I am seeking to convey ---- get the right form and file it --- is correct .

To the OP I hope that you make your personal " Great Escape " very soon . You will not regret it . Instead you will ask yourself " why didn' t I do this sooner ?

Oneiric
06-11-2016, 03:11 PM
Maybe the author of the article was referring to the Orange Blossom/Spanish Springs section. Then, he may be correct.

mikemalloy
06-11-2016, 04:27 PM
Just looking at the article the stat that jumped out to me was the violent crime rate. So I did a little googling. According to this article
The Villages crime rates and statistics - NeighborhoodScout (http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/fl/the-villages/crime/)
the rate of violent crimes in the Villages is 1.41 per 1000 persons of 141 per 100,000. The article claimed it was 421 per 100,000.

Here's another article
The_Villages, Florida Crime (http://www.bestplaces.net/crime/city/florida/the_villages)
According to this article on a scale of 1 to 100 when it comes to violent crime, THE VILLAGES IS A 1!

And lastly, here is another article
Crime Reports & Crime Rate - The Villages, FL 32162 (http://www.homefacts.com/crime/Florida/Marion-County/The-Villages/32162.html)
It doesn't deal exclusively with The Villages but includes the Lady Lake area. It has us in total crime 73% below the national average and in violent crime 86% below the national average.

In short the crime stat used in the "Stressful" Cities article is completely inaccurate. I have serious doubts about the accuracy of some of the other stats also.

RickeyD
06-11-2016, 08:44 PM
Just looking at the article the stat that jumped out to me was the violent crime rate. So I did a little googling. According to this article

The Villages crime rates and statistics - NeighborhoodScout (http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/fl/the-villages/crime/)

the rate of violent crimes in the Villages is 1.41 per 1000 persons of 141 per 100,000. The article claimed it was 421 per 100,000.



Here's another article

The_Villages, Florida Crime (http://www.bestplaces.net/crime/city/florida/the_villages)

According to this article on a scale of 1 to 100 when it comes to violent crime, THE VILLAGES IS A 1!



And lastly, here is another article

Crime Reports & Crime Rate - The Villages, FL 32162 (http://www.homefacts.com/crime/Florida/Marion-County/The-Villages/32162.html)

It doesn't deal exclusively with The Villages but includes the Lady Lake area. It has us in total crime 73% below the national average and in violent crime 86% below the national average.



In short the crime stat used in the "Stressful" Cities article is completely inaccurate. I have serious doubts about the accuracy of some of the other stats also.



Probably written by a millennial [emoji849]

Scorpyo
06-15-2016, 11:06 AM
We're closing on a place in The Villages next month. I just read the statistics. They were alarming. You folks work over 39 hours a week? Forgetaboutit!

Polar Bear
06-15-2016, 11:59 AM
We're closing on a place in The Villages next month. I just read the statistics. They were alarming. You folks work over 39 hours a week? Forgetaboutit!

That was the stat that jumped out at me too. Made the whole article laughable.

Taltarzac725
06-15-2016, 03:43 PM
We're closing on a place in The Villages next month. I just read the statistics. They were alarming. You folks work over 39 hours a week? Forgetaboutit!

I am on TOTV about 39 hours a week or sometimes it seems like that. Facebook even more.

justjim
06-15-2016, 04:25 PM
I am on TOTV about 39 hours a week or sometimes it seems like that. Facebook even more.

Well, that explains part of how we work here in The Villages. At times, I work several hours a week on my golf game. I know some TV residents that work at getting free meals here and there in TV. When you add all this along with all those that work on parties, dances, pickleball, hundreds do club work, volunteer work and etc.etc. 39 hours a week could be a very conservative number. 👍

RickeyD
06-16-2016, 11:18 AM
Well, that explains part of how we work here in The Villages. At times, I work several hours a week on my golf game. I know some TV residents that work at getting free meals here and there in TV. When you add all this along with all those that work on parties, dances, pickleball, hundreds do club work, volunteer work and etc.etc. 39 hours a week could be a very conservative number. [emoji106]



Where are the free meals ? [emoji488] [emoji489] [emoji487] [emoji492]

2BNTV
06-16-2016, 01:41 PM
We're closing on a place in The Villages next month. I just read the statistics. They were alarming. You folks work over 39 hours a week? Forgetaboutit!

:welcome: to TOTV. I see this is your first post.

The article included people in what they call, the MSA, ( Metropolitan Statistical Area).

All the people I know work 0 hours per week. Were too busy having fun. Sometimes I wonder how I ever found time for work, as I am very busy having fun.

Congrats. Best wishes as you start living the dream. :smiley:

Scorpyo
06-17-2016, 10:01 AM
Thanks all. I'm relieved now. I was so stressed at the thought of working 39 hours that I had to have a second margarita and then a nap. I hope there's no rule against 2nd margaritas and unscheduled naps.