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twoplanekid
06-08-2016, 09:37 AM
This is the first time I have noticed Oxford Oaks listings on The Villages sales site. For Oxford Oaks, they use an OO designation alter the model listing. They don’t mention anything in the listing about being family friendly. The two new Allamanda houses that are listed seem to be priced about 10% less than new ones in say Pine Hills. I will be interested to see if Fenney house pricing is also different.

graciegirl
06-08-2016, 11:19 AM
This is the first time I have noticed Oxford Oaks listings on The Villages sales site. For Oxford Oaks, they use an OO designation alter the model listing. They don’t mention anything in the listing about being family friendly. The two new Allamanda houses that are listed seem to be priced about 10% less than new ones in say Pine Hills. I will be interested to see if Fenney house pricing is also different.

It is my understanding that Fenney is a regular village with age limits and Oxford Oaks is not. I don't think OO has a pool or a rec center.

Two Allemanda's can't tell much of a story. Price on homes here depend on so many things: size of lot, location, privacy behind, additions, furnished or not and kicks.

Oxford Oaks | A Gated Family Community Near The Villages Florida (http://www.oxfordoaks.com/)

RickeyD
06-08-2016, 12:36 PM
Sidewalks where the kiddies can ride their bike's !

twoplanekid
06-08-2016, 02:24 PM
It is my understanding that Fenney is a regular village with age limits and Oxford Oaks is not. I don't think OO has a pool or a rec center.

Two Allemanda's can't tell much of a story. Price on homes here depend on so many things: size of lot, location, privacy behind, additions, furnished or not and kicks.

Oxford Oaks | A Gated Family Community Near The Villages Florida (http://www.oxfordoaks.com/)

I believe that Fenney will have some multi-family, not age restricted units.

Ok , let’s compare these two Allamanda houses:
VNH8330188 New at $204,368 1,569 climate controlled 8,645 Sq. FT. lot with Bay windows
VNH260127 New at $224,704 1,542 climate controlled 6,330 Sq. FT. lot
and then look at the detailed descriptions for each on the sales site.

Everything else is the same except one is in Oxford Oaks and the other in Pine Ridge. If someone can justify the price difference for other reasons, I would be interested in your reasoning.

Mleeja
06-08-2016, 02:31 PM
I believe that Fenney will have some multi-family, not age restricted units.

Ok , let�s compare these two Allamanda houses:
VNH8330188 New at $204,368 1,569 climate controlled 8,645 Sq. FT. lot with Bay windows
VNH260127 New at $224,704 1,542 climate controlled 6,330 Sq. FT. lot
and then look at the detailed descriptions.

Everything else is the same except one is in Oxford Oaks and the other in Pine Ridge. If someone can justify the price difference for other reasons, I would be interested in your reasoning.

Three little words, "location, location, location"

John_W
06-08-2016, 04:19 PM
Three little words, "location, location, location"

Besides the location being separate and far away from TV, just one look at Oxford Oaks website should be enough to tell you who they are catering to. The amenties listed are basketball courts, a jungle jim, beach volleyball, (a) tennis court, an outdoor pavillion for picnics and outdoor fitness equipment, but no swimming pool.

They show photos like these, if that's what you want then go ahead and save your $20,000 by moving there.

http://www.oxfordoaks.com/images/amenities-recreation-1-200.jpg

http://www.oxfordoaks.com/images/amenities-recreation-2-200.jpg

http://www.oxfordoaks.com/images/amenities-recreation-facility-600.jpg

Oxford Oaks | A Gated Family Community Near The Villages Florida (http://www.oxfordoaks.com/amenities.html)

RickeyD
06-08-2016, 04:40 PM
I believe that Fenney will have some multi-family, not age restricted units.

Ok , let�s compare these two Allamanda houses:
VNH8330188 New at $204,368 1,569 climate controlled 8,645 Sq. FT. lot with Bay windows
VNH260127 New at $224,704 1,542 climate controlled 6,330 Sq. FT. lot
and then look at the detailed descriptions for each on the sales site.

Everything else is the same except one is in Oxford Oaks and the other in Pine Ridge. If someone can justify the price difference for other reasons, I would be interested in your reasoning.

Pine Ridge may not be a good comparison because the new homes in Lake County are priced lower than similar new homes in Sumter County. Reason for this is the +-85% higher taxes in Lake/Fruitland Park area.

kstew43
06-08-2016, 06:04 PM
I believe that Fenney will have some multi-family, not age restricted units.

Ok , let’s compare these two Allamanda houses:
VNH8330188 New at $204,368 1,569 climate controlled 8,645 Sq. FT. lot with Bay windows
VNH260127 New at $224,704 1,542 climate controlled 6,330 Sq. FT. lot
and then look at the detailed descriptions for each on the sales site.

Everything else is the same except one is in Oxford Oaks and the other in Pine Ridge. If someone can justify the price difference for other reasons, I would be interested in your reasoning.

Oxford Oaks residents are not included in the villages ammenities......they do not have bonds...cannot play golf or use the rec centers.....they have there own pools and recs.......thus there home prices are much cheaper....plus they are all ages

Its a shame that this information is not represented in the listings......and some people who dont know any better will buy in those neighborhoods not knowing the real information.....

twoplanekid
06-08-2016, 06:27 PM
Oxford Oaks residents are not included in the villages ammenities......they do not have bonds...cannot play golf or use the rec centers.....they have there own pools and recs.......thus there home prices are much cheaper....plus they are all ages

Its a shame that this information is not represented in the listings......and some people who dont know any better will buy in those neighborhoods not knowing the real information.....

That is confusing as I thought everything listed on The Villages web sales site would have the same amenities privileges. No bond makes it a better deal. However, no TV amenities!

CWGUY
06-08-2016, 07:06 PM
That is confusing as I thought everything listed on The Villages web sales site would have the same amenities privileges. No bond makes it a better deal. However, no TV amenities!

:loco:

CWGUY
06-08-2016, 07:12 PM
This is the first time I have noticed Oxford Oaks listings on The Villages sales site. For Oxford Oaks, they use an OO designation alter the model listing. They don�t mention anything in the listing about being family friendly. The two new Allamanda houses that are listed seem to be priced about 10% less than new ones in say Pine Hills. I will be interested to see if Fenney house pricing is also different.

:confused: Do you know what "Oak Meadows", "Spring Arbor", or"Bison Valley" are? Do you know where they are? :ohdear:

twoplanekid
06-08-2016, 07:18 PM
:confused: Do you know what "Oak Meadows", "Spring Arbor", or"Bison Valley" are? Do you know where they are? :ohdear:
Are homes in Spring Arbor, Bison .... also listed on The Villages sales site ???? :wave:

Bogie Shooter
06-08-2016, 07:19 PM
I believe that Fenney will have some multi-family, not age restricted units.

Ok , let�s compare these two Allamanda houses:
VNH8330188 New at $204,368 1,569 climate controlled 8,645 Sq. FT. lot with Bay windows
VNH260127 New at $224,704 1,542 climate controlled 6,330 Sq. FT. lot
and then look at the detailed descriptions for each on the sales site.

Everything else is the same except one is in Oxford Oaks and the other in Pine Ridge. If someone can justify the price difference for other reasons, I would be interested in your reasoning.

What is your definition of multi-family?
Also Fenney will be the same as the rest of TV, with the 20% under 55 rule.

kstew43
06-08-2016, 07:23 PM
Are homes in Spring Arbor, Bison .... also listed on The Villages sales site ???? :wave:

yes they are........but because they are existing homes....they are very few and fare between. the oxford oaks are brand new and in my opinion appear listed the same as TV homes....

I do believe that if you read the entire information listed in the description you will see that it is a family neighborhood, BUT you have to understand the definition of a family neighborhood.......(no ammenities...golf...bonds...ect) that is not clarified in the on line listings...

kstew43
06-08-2016, 07:25 PM
What is your definition of multi-family?
Also Fenney will be the same as the rest of TV, with the 20% under 55 rule.

But oxford oaks allows children under 18.....to reside there.... that is not the same as 20 % rule. multi family means more than one residence in the same dwelling.....duplex....apartment.......I dont think Fenny will have those types of properties....

twoplanekid
06-08-2016, 07:26 PM
What is your definition of multi-family?
Also Fenney will be the same as the rest of TV, with the 20% under 55 rule.

I was looking at this ->
"
The revised plan calls for 2,600 of the 3,000 homes to be age-restricted. It also reduced the proposed commercial and retail space to 160,000 square feet from 225,000 square feet in the 2008 plan. Amenities may be similar to other villages, including recreation centers and golf courses. "

The 2,600 would be 80/20. So yes, about the same as TV.

from -> https://www.**************.com/surprise-move-villages-build-homes-village-feeney-wildwood/

Bogie Shooter
06-08-2016, 07:28 PM
But oxford oaks allows children under 18.....to reside there.... that is not the same as 20 % rule. multi family means more than one residence in the same dwelling.....duplex....apartment.......I dont think Fenny will have those types of properties....

I was responding to the Fenney statement. I know Oxford Oaks is a family village................

kstew43
06-08-2016, 07:30 PM
I was responding to the Fenney statement. I know Oxford Oaks is a family village................

gotcha..

justjim
06-08-2016, 07:43 PM
Oxford Oaks residents are not included in the villages ammenities......they do not have bonds...cannot play golf or use the rec centers.....they have there own pools and recs.......thus there home prices are much cheaper....plus they are all ages

Its a shame that this information is not represented in the listings......and some people who dont know any better will buy in those neighborhoods not knowing the real information.....

No chance someone will buy in a family Village without being told what their amenities are.

twoplanekid
06-08-2016, 07:51 PM
I do see Bison Valley listed on The Villages sales village selection. Learning something new every day. There are two listings in the selection-> not in The Villages. So, everything else is in The Villages such as Bison Valley and Oxford Oaks but without TV amenities privileges?

graciegirl
06-08-2016, 07:57 PM
I do see Bison Valley listed on The Villages sales village selection. Learning something new every day. There are two listings in the selection-> not in The Villages. So, everything else is in The Villages such as Bison Valley and Oxford Oaks but without TV amenities privileges?

Are you looking for a home?

CWGUY
06-08-2016, 08:47 PM
Are you looking for a home?

I think he has a "Vacation Home" here already. :confused:

twoplanekid
06-08-2016, 09:25 PM
Are you looking for a home?

As I encourage many to look at homes on The Villages web site, I will now caution them that not all in The Villages listed homes are entitled to TV amenities. I am learning more everyday about the ways of The Villages with the help of a few on this site and I say thank you to them.

Barefoot
06-08-2016, 10:58 PM
Everything else is the same except one is in Oxford Oaks and the other in Pine Ridge. If someone can justify the price difference for other reasons, I would be interested in your reasoning.

Same as Bison Valley, Oxford Oaks allows kids and doesn't have access to Villages amenities.
No access to Rec Center activities, no free golf for life, etc.
In my books, that more than justifies the price difference.

RickeyD
06-09-2016, 05:31 AM
For the prices they are asking you would think 1/3 acre lots would be the norm. What are these new buyers really getting for their money ? Reminds me of the Disney downtown experience rather than the theme parks themselves yet still paying full admission. As far as I'm concerned these prices in Central off coast Florida not within TV proper are way overpriced.

DangeloInspections
06-09-2016, 05:46 AM
At the risk of getting a bit off subject, (and I apologize), I feel there is a real need for more "family" communities in this area.

Case in point. I have been feverishly looking for a good home to buy for my son, who is joining me in my business. He has a 3 yr old daughter and one on the way. There seems to be no "family" areas near the southern part of The Villages now. Everything is well north or west, (i.e. Oxford Oaks).

Before folks get nervous thinking I want "kids in The Villages"...no I do not. But the fact is that The Villages needs all types of people who work here servicing the needs of the community who are younger, have kids, and need a quality place to live not too far away.

The homes we are seeing within 10-15 miles of The Villages are overpriced garbage for the most part. Lipstick on a pig in many cases.

It is a need I did not know existed until I started looking for a home for my son. Every moment I'm not inspecting houses in The Villages I'm looking to buy one for my son. I did not think it would be this difficult.

Respectfully, Frank

twoplanekid
06-09-2016, 06:43 AM
Although no mention of not have any TV amenities for the new house in Oxford Oaks, it does say that “Not to mention The Villages� Charter Schools are only a couple miles away.” So, if Frank’s son would purchase this home, would his kids be allowed to attend The Villages Charter School?

For those looking from afar to this sales site for information, some very important details are missing in my opinion.

I do enjoy looking at houses on this site even though I already own our dream home in TV.

graciegirl
06-09-2016, 07:48 AM
Although no mention of not have any TV amenities for the new house in Oxford Oaks, it does say that “Not to mention The Villages� Charter Schools are only a couple miles away.” So, if Frank’s son would purchase this home, would his kids be allowed to attend The Villages Charter School?

For those looking from afar to this sales site for information, some very important details are missing in my opinion.

I do enjoy looking at houses on this site even though I already own our dream home in TV.


I do too. I love looking at models and I enjoy watching HGTV. I just like to look at houses and I have always been that way.

We are blessed to know Frank (Dangelo Inspections) and know him as a hardworking, kind and honest person. So glad to hear his business is growing. I am hoping that because he works in the Villages his son's children would be able to use the Villages Charter Schools that are excellent.

One of the things that impresses me about this fine business that is The Villages is that they have thought things through very well. There are some areas that are not on the cutting edge, such as their computer technology, but all in all, it is my opinion that they have continued to make things better in all areas that I can see. I agree with RickeyD that the lots are smaller, but most of us have left large lots behind us with not many regrets.

Many, many, many people come here and are skeptical at first. I wondered, "What's the catch?" I am now thinking that "they" may be enjoying the part of creating a place like no other on this earth as their legacy. They certainly have enough money. More money could not possible change their lives. They all still work here and live here. (The family I mean)

Mr. Two Plane, did you say that your background is computer technology? Had you thought about working for The Villages company?

I hope someday you will be happy and satisfied that this place is about as good as you can find on this earth.

I don't work for them. I don't know "them". I am a person who thinks I am so lucky to live here after a lot of very nice homes in our past and nice areas too.

photo1902
06-09-2016, 07:52 AM
Although no mention of not have any TV amenities for the new house in Oxford Oaks, it does say that �Not to mention The Villages� Charter Schools are only a couple miles away.� So, if Frank�s son would purchase this home, would his kids be allowed to attend The Villages Charter School?

For those looking from afar to this sales site for information, some very important details are missing in my opinion.

I do enjoy looking at houses on this site even though I already own our dream home in TV.

I agree it would be helpful if on the OO and BV listings it indicated what was and wasn't included (as far as The Villages Amenities) I have several friends who live in Virginia that will send me listings in OO and say "Is this The Villages?".

Bogie Shooter
06-09-2016, 08:22 AM
I agree it would be helpful if on the OO and BV listings it indicated what was and wasn't included (as far as The Villages Amenities) I have several friends who live in Virginia that will send me listings in OO and say "Is this The Villages?".

Tell your friends to contact the Sales Office.

photo1902
06-09-2016, 08:25 AM
Tell your friends to contact the Sales Office.

Easier to simply ask me. I do know that most people who are perusing The Villages web listings from afar aren't going to call the sales office everytime they click on a link.

graciegirl
06-09-2016, 08:34 AM
Easier to simply ask me. I do know that most people who are perusing The Villages web listings from afar aren't going to call the sales office everytime they click on a link.

Yes. And I certainly wouldn't if I didn't know that it is very unlikely that they will "hound" you. I hate being hounded and it is one of the reasons that I liked dealing with our sales agent for The Villages. Overall, Villages sales agents are the least annoying bunch of home sellers I have run into. I just hate being "sold". Hate it.

photo1902
06-09-2016, 08:37 AM
Yes. And I certainly wouldn't if I didn't know that it is very unlikely that they will "hound" you. I hate being hounded and it is one of the reasons that I liked dealing with our sales agent for The Villages. Overall, Villages sales agents are the least annoying bunch of home sellers I have run into. I just hate being "sold". Hate it.

Same here. A simple blurb on the site would clear up any confusion.

twoplanekid
06-09-2016, 10:19 AM
Same here. A simple blurb on the site would clear up any confusion.

:BigApplause:

Barefoot
06-09-2016, 11:10 AM
For those looking from afar to this sales site for information, some very important details are missing in my opinion.
Yes, it should be clear from the listing whether it's a family-friendly community or part of the retirement community.
I think The Villages is trusting the fact that if someone is serious about purchasing in TV, they will contact the Sales Office to make their needs known. If they have young children, they'll be directed to subdivisions that allow children.
If they are serious buyers, I assume a Villages Sales Rep will educate them on the fact that children-friendly subdivisions aren't part of The Villages Retirement Community.

graciegirl
06-09-2016, 11:38 AM
The ONLY place I can find listings for Oxford Oaks is under "Family". There are six area divisions including;

Orange Blossom Hills
Spanish Springs
Lopez Legacy
Lake Sumter Landing
Brownwood
Family

CWGUY
06-09-2016, 12:06 PM
Easier to simply ask me. I do know that most people who are perusing The Villages web listings from afar aren't going to call the sales office everytime they click on a link.

:( Easier :confused: Not BETTER!

photo1902
06-09-2016, 12:46 PM
:( Easier :confused: Not BETTER!

Huh?

twoplanekid
06-09-2016, 12:47 PM
The ONLY place I can find listings for Oxford Oaks is under "Family". There are six area divisions including;

Orange Blossom Hills
Spanish Springs
Lopez Legacy
Lake Sumter Landing
Brownwood
Family

When I was looking to purchase in TV, I would look at the listing for a particular model of house. Then, I examined all homes within my price range.

While my sale agent was good, he was so laid back that if I didn�t ask the question, I would never know.

photo1902
06-09-2016, 12:53 PM
When I was looking to purchase in TV, I would look at the listing for a particular model of house. Then, I examined all homes within my price range.

While my sale agent was good, he was so laid back that if I didn�t ask the question, I would never know.

We were fortunate enough to have family already living here before we moved. We gained a lot of information from them. I'd be interested to know how many new Villagers we have each year who move here based strongly on recommendations from those of us who already live here. I currently have three friends who are considering relocating here when they retire. I look forward to helping them with questions they have about The Villages.

Bavarian
06-09-2016, 01:51 PM
Oxford Oaks residents are not included in the villages ammenities......they do not have bonds...cannot play golf or use the rec centers.....they have there own pools and recs.......thus there home prices are much cheaper....plus they are all ages

Its a shame that this information is not represented in the listings......and some people who dont know any better will buy in those neighborhoods not knowing the real information.....

Ditto, this is for the professionals,(doctors,lawyers) and sales Representatives. Our's moved there to put his children in the Charter School, his wife also became a sales rep for The Villages.

Maybe some people will buy there knowing these facts if all their going to use are the stores restaurants on 466, the Country Club Restaurants, the Squares. etc. Much is open to the public. They would probably install their own pools like those of us in Villages with no Community Pool.

twoplanekid
06-18-2016, 05:40 PM
The Oxford Oaks listings are gone from The Villages sales site and I believe that is a good thing.

graciegirl
06-18-2016, 06:20 PM
The Oxford Oaks listings are gone from The Villages sales site and I believe that is a good thing.

Why?

That area, and the website are both owned by the Morses whose business it is to sell their own properties.

Last week I saw a listing on the site for a two story home on several acres of land at a place I had not heard of called Sumter Crossing. When I looked at it on the map it was next to a place that had a street with the name of our builder. The home in Sumter Crossing's ad showed it was "not in the Villages". Many folks moving here are professionals with children. They may be interested in someplace nearby.

twoplanekid
06-18-2016, 06:31 PM
Many others and I were confused by whose house would have what amenities. I believe that those who are in control of the site also felt that there was confusion as to the amenities. They are going to do what is best from a business standpoint and I agree with them on this issue. The listings may return organized differently.

OhioBuckeye
06-20-2016, 10:19 AM
Oxford Oaks residents are not included in the villages ammenities......they do not have bonds...cannot play golf or use the rec centers.....they have there own pools and recs.......thus there home prices are much cheaper....plus they are all ages

Its a shame that this information is not represented in the listings......and some people who dont know any better will buy in those neighborhoods not knowing the real information.....

I love the Villages & I can tell you there's a lot of things here I've learned that I was never told about good & bad. But if you're looking for Amenities, yes we've surely got them, but I do know some people that don't use any of them. I'm out of state right now & I can tell you groceries, clothing, utilities & about everything else in the Villages are more expensive, but then again it just depends where you come from. I've got to say the people here are very friendly & are like family!:spoken:

Bogie Shooter
06-20-2016, 11:34 AM
Ditto, this is for the professionals,(doctors,lawyers) and sales Representatives. Our's moved there to put his children in the Charter School, his wife also became a sales rep for The Villages.

Maybe some people will buy there knowing these facts if all their going to use are the stores restaurants on 466, the Country Club Restaurants, the Squares. etc. Much is open to the public. They would probably install their own pools like those of us in Villages with no Community Pool.

There are no restrictions on who can live in Oxford Oaks.

CWGUY
06-20-2016, 01:04 PM
Oxford Oaks residents are not included in the villages ammenities......they do not have bonds...cannot play golf or use the rec centers.....they have there own pools and recs.......thus there home prices are much cheaper....plus they are all ages

Its a shame that this information is not represented in the listings......and some people who dont know any better will buy in those neighborhoods not knowing the real information.....

:undecided: I would find that hard to believe..... but once upon a time there was a man who did buy a home in Chatham without knowing there were active train tracks real close. :shocked:

graciegirl
06-20-2016, 01:21 PM
:undecided: I would find that hard to believe..... but once upon a time there was a man who did buy a home in Chatham without knowing there were active train tracks real close. :shocked:

Awwww yes. I remember it well. ;)

I too find it hard to believe that anyone would buy anywhere that they were not completely familiar with.

Barefoot
06-20-2016, 01:40 PM
:undecided: I would find that hard to believe..... but once upon a time there was a man who did buy a home in Chatham without knowing there were active train tracks real close. :shocked:
Yes, I remember that situation well. The Purchaser eventually moved out of The Villages.
Buying a home is a huge investment and it pays to do due diligence.
I remember thinking at the time --
the Purchaser bought a home with a pool, with the intention of spending a lot of time outdoors.
Turns out, it was noisy when a train went by.
I think a prudent Purchaser, buying a home that backed on open space, would look at a map to see if there were any garbage dumps or commercial buildings or dog parks or railway tracks or hydro fields behind the open space.

bennisc1
06-20-2016, 02:18 PM
Would obviously be able to come to TV and enjoy the entertainment at the Squares, restaurants, etc.

CWGUY
06-20-2016, 02:37 PM
Would obviously be able to come to TV and enjoy the entertainment at the Squares, restaurants, etc.

:wave::welcome: