Get your head out of the sand

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Or should I say some where else. The Orlando attack will show up here one day mark my word. Look what happened Spanish Springs. This is anywhere USA. Be on your guard and carry your gun responsibly and intelligently never leave home without it.

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Or should I say some where else. The Orlando attack will show up here one day mark my word. Look what happened Spanish Springs. This is anywhere USA. Be on your guard and carry your gun responsibly and intelligently never leave home without it.What happened in Spanish Springs? Are you talking about the young man who took a beating and passed away due to head trauma?

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Or should I say some where else. The Orlando attack will show up here one day mark my word. Look what happened Spanish Springs. This is anywhere USA. Be on your guard and carry your gun responsibly and intelligently never leave home without it.

This post sounds like you watched the entire Death Wish series with Charles Bronson. There are two very different ways to look at this. Your thinking seems to mirror the NRA's supporting more guns and ammo available with very little oversight will take care of crime. I am not a liberal and probably own as many handguns as you but strongly believe the 2nd amendment has been stretched all out of proportion and has made the United States a shooting gallery. Handguns should be registered, a very liberal stop and frisk law enacted regardless of personal rights, and permitting to carry a concealed weapon be more in depth. None of these would prevent so called "good guys" from obtaining and carrying a handgun. I don't know how in hell getting control over all the handguns already out there in the wrongs hands is going to be accomplished but I know flooding the country with more guns is not the answer. Maybe you're ok with your wife, children, grandchildren, etc all carrying a handgun but that is not a community I want to live in. Just another opinion.

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This post sounds like you watched the entire Death Wish series with Charles Bronson. There are two very different ways to look at this. Your thinking seems to mirror the NRA's supporting more guns and ammo available with very little oversight will take care of crime. I am not a liberal and probably own as many handguns as you but strongly believe the 2nd amendment has been stretched all out of proportion and has made the United States a shooting gallery. Handguns should be registered, a very liberal stop and frisk law enacted regardless of personal rights, and permitting to carry a concealed weapon be more in depth. None of these would prevent so called "good guys" from obtaining and carrying a handgun. I don't know how in hell getting control over all the handguns already out there in the wrongs hands is going to be accomplished but I know flooding the country with more guns is not the answer. Maybe you're ok with your wife, children, grandchildren, etc all carrying a handgun but that is not a community I want to live in. Just another opinion.Open carry is bad for business too. I was reading a story where open carry is the law. The restaurant owner carries a concealed weapon to protect his customers and his business. Once customers started legally wearing sidearms business dropped. Seeing the guns does not make anyone feel safer unless it's worn by a LEO.

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Seeing the guns does not make anyone feel safer unless it's worn by a LEO.


yeah, one class of people I never EVER trust is a local LEO. Corrupt incompetent idiots. Heck, most cops cant shoot a static target let alone a moving target. I actually (and honestly) would prefer that a CCW former soldier have a gun than a fat lazy cop. At least the soldier will hit the target. :ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:

People who placate cops are pathetic. Cops are pathetic (ususally). I do not however relay these ideas to State, Marshal's, FBI and other actual TRAINED law enforcement who are not incented to "testi-lie" as a part of their day to day goings on.

Just ask the fine people of Marion county.....

Lady Lake cops...lazy as all get out. Takes SIX of them to stand around for five hours for a reported "domestic" where there not only was no arrest, there was no report.

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What happened in Spanish Springs? Are you talking about the young man who took a beating and passed away due to head trauma?


Oddly, I see zero correlation between the two...anyone who can derive any commonalities between Orlando last night and Spanish Springs has had a bit too much of their Memantine.

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Again get your head out of some where and face fakes.

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I spelled that wrong .Look at the facts.

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This post sounds like you watched the entire Death Wish series with Charles Bronson. There are two very different ways to look at this. Your thinking seems to mirror the NRA's supporting more guns and ammo available with very little oversight will take care of crime. I am not a liberal and probably own as many handguns as you but strongly believe the 2nd amendment has been stretched all out of proportion and has made the United States a shooting gallery. Handguns should be registered, a very liberal stop and frisk law enacted regardless of personal rights, and permitting to carry a concealed weapon be more in depth. None of these would prevent so called "good guys" from obtaining and carrying a handgun. I don't know how in hell getting control over all the handguns already out there in the wrongs hands is going to be accomplished but I know flooding the country with more guns is not the answer. Maybe you're ok with your wife, children, grandchildren, etc all carrying a handgun but that is not a community I want to live in. Just another opinion.

How would registering handguns save lives? Registering automobiles doesn't prevent drunk driving deaths.

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How would registering handguns save lives? Registering automobiles doesn't prevent drunk driving deaths.People drive drunk. They crash into another car and run away. That happened here. The police see who the car is registered to and track down the driver. Does this help prevent drunk driving or leaving the scene of an accident? I think so.
Get back to me after you find out what to say next.

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How would registering handguns save lives? Registering automobiles doesn't prevent drunk driving deaths.
With all the handguns already flooding the country it by itself is not a cure all but a piece. As a country we are spending thousands of dollars for each Isis soldier we kill in the Middle East when you add up cost of missles, jets, munitions, soldiers, etc. This morning Dick's was advertising a sale on the same bullets used in Orlando last night for $170 for 420 rounds. That is about 40 cents a round. I don't know what the answer is but think we should start an intelligent and serious discussion without the NRA. IMO

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People drive drunk. They crash into another car and run away. That happened here. The police see who the car is registered to and track down the driver. Does this help prevent drunk driving or leaving the scene of an accident? I think so.
Get back to me after you find out what to say next.

Yeah, once they find a bullet or shell casing all "investigation" stops (for when the cops are not bumbling over their own failures in life). All that TV stuff about specific markings on bullets are only on TV..and only a registered person can drive a particular car...no cars are EVER stolen and or driven by other drivers...

Just today there was a dude (at about noon) in his black four door Ford 500...smoking a crack pipe and blowing the smoke out the window. He was in the car behind me (stopping at ALL the lights that were timed by a typical ignorant govt employee). He finally turned in towards Home Depot...yeah, I am sure he is a safe driver as well.

And, to further prove your are an idiot. MANY times a drunk driver will leave a scene...get away and SOBER UP...thus, DUI charges are futile.

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With all the handguns already flooding the country it by itself is not a cure all but a piece. As a country we are spending thousands of dollars for each Isis soldier we kill in the Middle East when you add up cost of missles, jets, munitions, soldiers, etc. This morning Dick's was advertising a sale on the same bullets used in Orlando last night for $170 for 420 rounds. That is about 40 cents a round. I don't know what the answer is but think we should start an intelligent and serious discussion without the NRA. IMO

Never mind the weapon of choice, in Orlando for instance was NOT a hand gun. AND, no one will ever know if the situation could have been mitigated had one or two of the people in the gay bar had a weapon. Too bad one of the women did not man up and tackle the guy.

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Yeah, once they find a bullet or shell casing all "investigation" stops (for when the cops are not bumbling over their own failures in life). All that TV stuff about specific markings on bullets are only on TV..and only a registered person can drive a particular car...no cars are EVER stolen and or driven by other drivers...

Just today there was a dude (at about noon) in his black four door Ford 500...smoking a crack pipe and blowing the smoke out the window. He was in the car behind me (stopping at ALL the lights that were timed by a typical ignorant govt employee). He finally turned in towards Home Depot...yeah, I am sure he is a safe driver as well.

And, to further prove your are an idiot. MANY times a drunk driver will leave a scene...get away and SOBER UP...thus, DUI charges are futile.

You saw a guy smoking crack. But instead of finding the car in Home Depot and reporting it to the police the license number you let the crackhead keep driving.

The police would have checked the registration and apprehended the driver.

thanks

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You saw a guy smoking crack. But instead of finding the car in Home Depot and reporting it to the police the license number you let the crackhead keep driving.

The police would have checked the registration and apprehended the driver.

thanks

Florida has no front plates...the cops were probably a thousand miles away, there are three counties in a VERY short distance and I really dont care because he did not rear-end me.

Why dont you run on over to Home Depot on 441 and see if there is a black Ford 500...white guy, early 30's in it...best chance is that possibly he is working at Home Depot. Good luck McGruff....

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Florida has no front plates...the cops were probably a thousand miles away, there are three counties in a VERY short distance and I really dont care because he did not rear-end me.

Why dont you run on over to Home Depot on 441 and see if there is a black Ford 500...white guy, early 30's in it...best chance is that possibly he is working at Home Depot. Good luck McGruff....

Always quick to paint all police with the same brush but also so quick to excuse himself for failing to act like a concerned citizen by taking any minimal effort to draw law enforcement to a questionable situation .

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People drive drunk. They crash into another car and run away. That happened here. The police see who the car is registered to and track down the driver. Does this help prevent drunk driving or leaving the scene of an accident? I think so.
Get back to me after you find out what to say next.

You just made my case. It does NOTHING to help PREVENT drunk driving!

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Yeah, once they find a bullet or shell casing all "investigation" stops (for when the cops are not bumbling over their own failures in life). All that TV stuff about specific markings on bullets are only on TV..and only a registered person can drive a particular car...no cars are EVER stolen and or driven by other drivers...

Just today there was a dude (at about noon) in his black four door Ford 500...smoking a crack pipe and blowing the smoke out the window. He was in the car behind me (stopping at ALL the lights that were timed by a typical ignorant govt employee). He finally turned in towards Home Depot...yeah, I am sure he is a safe driver as well.

And, to further prove your are an idiot. MANY times a drunk driver will leave a scene...get away and SOBER UP...thus, DUI charges are futile.

The proof that you are the IDIOT is...that you fail to the grasp the difference between preventing deaths and the apprehending and arresting suspected drunk drivers!

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Never mind the weapon of choice, in Orlando for instance was NOT a hand gun. AND, no one will ever know if the situation could have been mitigated had one or two of the people in the gay bar had a weapon. Too bad one of the women did not man up and tackle the guy.

So much for my thoughts of an intelligent and serious dialog. Comments like that lower the precieved IQ of the Villages community.

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Florida has no front plates...the cops were probably a thousand miles away, there are three counties in a VERY short distance and I really dont care because he did not rear-end me.

Why dont you run on over to Home Depot on 441 and see if there is a black Ford 500...white guy, early 30's in it...best chance is that possibly he is working at Home Depot. Good luck McGruff....Thanks again for getting involved.

I know you don't care as long as your safe. Drunk driving is a problem, not getting involved is a problem.

I hope no one got hurt. I have turned in drunk drivers.

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Thanks again for getting involved.

I know you don't care as long as your safe. Drunk driving is a problem, not getting involved is a problem.

I hope no one got hurt. I have turned in drunk drivers.

The fact is he was driving just fine...maybe high as a kite, but driving fine. I didnt get rear ended...so be it. Now, if he was driving lane to lane and showing an impairment...I would have considered making a call. But, I would not hold my breath in waiting for a cop to show up. PLUS, if he was pulled over on just my word - any lawyer north of Leo Goetz would get the charges tossed.


Want to see what drivers are a terror? Look at the idiots in the squares, at Publix, most parking lots...and more often than not should NOT be driving due more to age than booze (or crack)

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The fact is he was driving just fine...maybe high as a kite, but driving fine. I didnt get rear ended...so be it. Now, if he was driving lane to lane and showing an impairment...I would have considered making a call. But, I would not hold my breath in waiting for a cop to show up. PLUS, if he was pulled over on just my word - any lawyer north of Leo Goetz would get the charges tossed.


Want to see what drivers are a terror? Look at the idiots in the squares, at Publix, most parking lots...and more often than not should NOT be driving due more to age than booze (or crack)
Just today there was a dude (at about noon) in his black four door Ford 500...smoking a crack pipe and blowing the smoke out the window. He was in the car behind me (stopping at ALL the lights that were timed by a typical ignorant govt employee). He finally turned in towards Home Depot...yeah, I am sure he is a safe driver as well.


And you are calling me an idiot because I said registering cars does help prevent drunk driving. It helps the police but they can't do it alone. You can report a crime anonymously 800 423 TIPS.

Central Florida Crimeline (http://crimeline.org/)

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And you are calling me an idiot because I said registering cars does help prevent drunk driving. It helps the police but they can't do it alone. You can report a crime anonymously 800 423 TIPS.

Central Florida Crimeline (http://crimeline.org/)


Um, I dont believe ANY "statistics" the Govt. creates to fit what ever need they have. And, "Statistics" prove that "drunk driving" is at an all time high. Mostly because they keep lowering the bar thank to pathetic special interest groups like MADD and others. Sure does "feel good" to legislate and control by fines and fees - when the reality is there is no tangible proof of anyone being any safer (but many families are driven to poverty, homelessness, joblessness and starvation trying to fight "the man").

Dont let reality get into the way of delusion.

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This post sounds like you watched the entire Death Wish series with Charles Bronson. There are two very different ways to look at this. Your thinking seems to mirror the NRA's supporting more guns and ammo available with very little oversight will take care of crime. I am not a liberal and probably own as many handguns as you but strongly believe the 2nd amendment has been stretched all out of proportion and has made the United States a shooting gallery. Handguns should be registered, a very liberal stop and frisk law enacted regardless of personal rights, and permitting to carry a concealed weapon be more in depth. None of these would prevent so called "good guys" from obtaining and carrying a handgun. I don't know how in hell getting control over all the handguns already out there in the wrongs hands is going to be accomplished but I know flooding the country with more guns is not the answer. Maybe you're ok with your wife, children, grandchildren, etc all carrying a handgun but that is not a community I want to live in. Just another opinion.

So, you feel that the 2nd Amendment is wrong and apparently you do NOT believe in the 4th Amendment at all. And you are not a liberal?

My wife does not carry concealed but knows how to use a handgun. My daughter carries concealed and my grand kids all practice shooting and some of them are hunters, including my 12 yr old grandson. I have had a gun since I was about 13 and have been carrying a gun most of my life. I have never had an accident with one, my daughter has not and as far as I know, neither has my grandkids.

But, you should fear the NRA because somehow they are responsible for all the bad things that happen related to guns.

OK....

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I think Bernie has a sensible balance on this subject. I know he doesn't matter anymore as a candidate. But I admire how his views are not perfectly in line with all liberals. Agreeing with the NRA cost him an election years ago. But he would rather loose then be a hypocrite. What more can you ask of a person? You don't see that around here.

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But, you should fear the NRA because somehow they are responsible for all the bad things that happen related to guns.

OK....

I have it by good authority that all of the hoodlums in South Chicago are members of the NRA....

http://theboombox.com/files/2013/01/rappers-gun-violence.jpg

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My head is spinning trying to follow the logic of many of the Posters on this area of TOTV .

Some people seem to be arguing both for and against the same issue .

When someone presents data -- hard data from a credible site all the Polar Opposite does is just dismiss the data over and over again .
It`s impossible to have a constructive discussion here . It`s just food-fights and name calling .
What`s the point ? It`s an out of control Birthday Party for 9 year old boys .

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When someone presents data -- hard data from a credible site all the Polar Opposite does is just dismiss the data over and over again .
It`s impossible to have a constructive discussion here . It`s just food-fights and name calling .
What`s the point ? It`s an out of control Birthday Party for 9 year old boys .

I think that it all depends on if Win-Dixie has BYGO Gin in the liquor dept. But, you are correct. And as far as "credible" on the internet....right off the bat that excludes CNN, NBC, Huffington, NYTimes, AOL...and yes FOX and on and on and on...(almost at the top is TOTV if you want functional discussion)

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How would registering handguns save lives? Registering automobiles doesn't prevent drunk driving deaths.

What an idiotic comparison!

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I think Bernie has a sensible balance on this subject. I know he doesn't matter anymore as a candidate. But I admire how his views are not perfectly in line with all liberals. Agreeing with the NRA cost him an election years ago. But he would rather loose then be a hypocrite. What more can you ask of a person? You don't see that around here.

B.S.

Bernie is a fruit cake and everyone that knows him, says he is a mean person and hard to get along with. He was a Democrat sponsored joke that backfired on them, because the children endorsed him. He was for the NRA because his state was. His state (WHERE HE GETS ELECTED) has very few gun control laws. What would you expect him to say? I think you have it wrong. I think he would rather be a hypocrite than lose.

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My head is spinning trying to follow the logic of many of the Posters on this area of TOTV .

Some people seem to be arguing both for and against the same issue .

When someone presents data -- hard data from a credible site all the Polar Opposite does is just dismiss the data over and over again .
It`s impossible to have a constructive discussion here . It`s just food-fights and name calling .
What`s the point ? It`s an out of control Birthday Party for 9 year old boys .

There's the door ====>>>>

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What an idiotic comparison!

Your's is an idiotic reply!

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What an idiotic comparison!

So, you seem to think that registering firearms will prevent people from killing other people. Just curious, do they have trees on your planet?

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There's the door ====>>>>

Pour yourself another drink and yell at the old lady old man !

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People drive drunk. They crash into another car and run away. That happened here. The police see who the car is registered to and track down the driver. Does this help prevent drunk driving or leaving the scene of an accident? I think so.
Get back to me after you find out what to say next.

You think they'll leave their gun behind so we can track them down?

So, you feel that the 2nd Amendment is wrong and apparently you do NOT believe in the 4th Amendment at all. And you are not a liberal?

My wife does not carry concealed but knows how to use a handgun. My daughter carries concealed and my grand kids all practice shooting and some of them are hunters, including my 12 yr old grandson. I have had a gun since I was about 13 and have been carrying a gun most of my life. I have never had an accident with one, my daughter has not and as far as I know, neither has my grandkids.

But, you should fear the NRA because somehow they are responsible for all the bad things that happen related to guns.

OK....

Minorities are responsible for most of the bad things that happen related to guns. Hell, they're responsible for the most of the bad things that happen period!

Ban "minorities" and MOST of our "problems" go away!

I have it by good authority that all of the hoodlums in South Chicago are members of the NRA....

http://theboombox.com/files/2013/01/rappers-gun-violence.jpg

This is what needs to be banned! Ban these "people".

So, you seem to think that registering firearms will prevent people from killing other people. Just curious, do they have trees on your planet?

People will find a way to kill each other, we have been for millions or years.

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yeah, one class of people I never EVER trust is a local LEO. Corrupt incompetent idiots. Heck, most cops cant shoot a static target let alone a moving target. I actually (and honestly) would prefer that a CCW former soldier have a gun than a fat lazy cop. At least the soldier will hit the target. :ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:

People who placate cops are pathetic. Cops are pathetic (ususally). I do not however relay these ideas to State, Marshal's, FBI and other actual TRAINED law enforcement who are not incented to "testi-lie" as a part of their day to day goings on.

Just ask the fine people of Marion county.....

Lady Lake cops...lazy as all get out. Takes SIX of them to stand around for five hours for a reported "domestic" where there not only was no arrest, there was no report.

If you ever need a cop remember not to call Lady Lake police or local police, call "State, Marshal's, FBI and other actual TRAINED law enforcement." Really intelligent!

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So, you seem to think that registering firearms will prevent people from killing other people. Just curious, do they have trees on your planet?
I don't think anyone said prevent. Did they say help prevent? And do you understand the difference?

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I don't think anyone said prevent. Did they say help prevent? And do you understand the difference?

So, how would registering my handgun 'help prevent' me from killing someone?

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So, how would registering my handgun 'help prevent' me from killing someone?I don't know how it would help you prevent killing someone. You've given this a lot of thought.

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I don't think anyone said prevent. Did they say help prevent? And do you understand the difference?

Yes, I understand the difference. But, with regard to gun registration, there is no discernible difference in desired outcomes.

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Yes, I understand the difference. But, with regard to gun registration, there is no discernible difference in desired outcomes.I think the Orlando shooting makes your point. That doesn't mean to me anyway that registration can't be fixed.

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So, how would registering my handgun 'help prevent' me from killing someone?

I don't know how it would help you prevent killing someone. You've given this a lot of thought.

And you and the rest of the liberals...haven't.

Your favorite victim besides yourselves, the blacks, hispanics, are responsible for the VAST majority of violence, shootings, and murder in general.

When will you let us begin a TRUTHFUL, FACTUAL discussion about them and their effect on society?

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This post sounds like you watched the entire Death Wish series with Charles Bronson. There are two very different ways to look at this. Your thinking seems to mirror the NRA's supporting more guns and ammo available with very little oversight will take care of crime. I am not a liberal and probably own as many handguns as you but strongly believe the 2nd amendment has been stretched all out of proportion and has made the United States a shooting gallery. Handguns should be registered, a very liberal stop and frisk law enacted regardless of personal rights, and permitting to carry a concealed weapon be more in depth. None of these would prevent so called "good guys" from obtaining and carrying a handgun. I don't know how in hell getting control over all the handguns already out there in the wrongs hands is going to be accomplished but I know flooding the country with more guns is not the answer. Maybe you're ok with your wife, children, grandchildren, etc all carrying a handgun but that is not a community I want to live in. Just another opinion.

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Finally, someone that has put thought into their posting!

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:BigApplause::BigApplause::BigApplause::BigApplaus e::BigApplause::BigApplause::BigApplause::BigAppla use::BigApplause:

Finally, someone that has put thought into their posting!

Apparently not, if you are applauding.

He doesn't realize that he is taking the liberal side of the debate. That makes him a liberal, regardless of what his party affiliation is. It's OK for him to have a gun, but he does not wish anyone else to have one. He feels threatened by anyone else have control of a firearm. He doesn't care about anyone else around him, therefore he takes the exact position of a liberal.