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06-15-2016, 09:54 AM
Trump To Meet With NRA About Barring Those On No Fly List From Buying Guns (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-nra-guns-no-fly-list?utm_content=buffer91a97&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer)
Donald Trump will be speaking with the NRA today about supporting a ban on gun sales to people on the no-fly, watch list.
Stand-by to see if the NRA tries to walk back their endorsement of Trump.
Democrats are proposing a 'no fly-no-buy law' also today.
Guest
06-15-2016, 09:59 AM
Don't be surpised if this no fly no buy gets passed with the NRA and Trump taking bows together.
It is a very do-able least risk position to support....showing some action that make sense...being taken.
Guest
06-15-2016, 10:36 AM
When proposed by President Obama, the no fly-no buy idea was shouted down by the NRA and most Republicans.
Guest
06-15-2016, 01:49 PM
Heck, why worry about the Constitution when we can pass stupid, do-nothing legislature during a heated moment? Instead of blaming radicals and faulting politicians as we should, we will blame the very guns that will ultimately protect us from those that wish to take our freedom and liberty from us.
Trump is speaking with NRA to see what is a practical solution to approach when/after he is elected. Don't worry, Trump is not going to step on Obambie's slip.
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06-15-2016, 01:51 PM
Too bad we can't hire these radical Islamists to go into the Chicago ghetto and clean it out. OH, that's right they have guns up there and will fight back. Well, when they eventually DO take our guns away, at least the ghettos will be safe. Kind of ironic, isn't it?
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06-15-2016, 02:29 PM
Too bad we can't hire these radical Islamists to go into the Chicago ghetto and clean it out. OH, that's right they have guns up there and will fight back. Well, when they eventually DO take our guns away, at least the ghettos will be safe. Kind of ironic, isn't it?
There is no way there will ever exist a situation whe guns in this country will be "taken away".
Even if they were declared illegal to have all we would have to do is nothing and keep our guns just like the criminal elements and illegals do today.
I naturally assume lack of enforcement of the laws would be in continuence......even for white, armed, honest, tax paying Americans.
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06-15-2016, 02:36 PM
There is no way there will ever exist a situation whe guns in this country will be "taken away".
Even if they were declared illegal to have all we would have to do is nothing and keep our guns just like the criminal elements and illegals do today.
I naturally assume lack of enforcement of the laws would be in continuence......even for white, armed, honest, tax paying Americans.
That would create how many felons? How many million lawbreakers would suddenly exist? Guess I would be one of them because not all of mine are registered, so there is no record of them.
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06-15-2016, 03:49 PM
That would create how many felons? How many million lawbreakers would suddenly exist? Guess I would be one of them because not all of mine are registered, so there is no record of them.
Of course, most people break laws everyday. Tell me you never went over 30 in TV. I don't think anybody is going to take guns away. May be some law about assault rifles. Then you can choose to obey it or not. If somebody shoots me, I am not going to care if the gun was registered.
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06-15-2016, 04:02 PM
The no fly/no buy law would only ban people on the no fly/watch list from buying guns. If all the posters above are on the no fly list, we have bigger problems in The Villages.
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06-15-2016, 05:07 PM
If I understand it correctly the way it stands, you can be put on the no fly list without due cause,
and if you were put on it, you might find
it near impossible to get off it!
Guest
06-15-2016, 07:29 PM
First it is the no fly list. Then it will be look a like wannabe assault rifles. Then it will be any semi-automatic rifle. Then it will be any semi-automatic pistol. Or maybe all magazines capable of holding more than ten rounds. Then it will be banning of all concealed carry. Some states banned all concealed carry of knives. Some states have banned carrying any knife over three inches in length. Good luck when you say that not allowing someone on the no fly list to purchase a fire arm, is no big deal. When has someone on the no-fly list ever committed these mass shootings? This guy was taken off the no-fly list. SO, unless I am mistaken, NONE. Liberals love to get one little inch in there so that the mile they are looking for will be easier to obtain. You liberals want to take cars away to prevent drunk driving.
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06-15-2016, 07:49 PM
When has someone on the no-fly list ever committed these mass shootings? This guy was taken off the no-fly list. SO, unless I am mistaken, NONE. Why was he taken off the list?
Is there a no buy list?
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06-15-2016, 07:50 PM
First it is the no fly list. Then it will be look a like wannabe assault rifles. Then it will be any semi-automatic rifle. Then it will be any semi-automatic pistol. Or maybe all magazines capable of holding more than ten rounds. Then it will be banning of all concealed carry. Some states banned all concealed carry of knives. Some states have banned carrying any knife over three inches in length. Good luck when you say that not allowing someone on the no fly list to purchase a fire arm, is no big deal. When has someone on the no-fly list ever committed these mass shootings? This guy was taken off the no-fly list. SO, unless I am mistaken, NONE. Liberals love to get one little inch in there so that the mile they are looking for will be easier to obtain. You liberals want to take cars away to prevent drunk driving.
Your boy, Donald Trump, is in favor (as of today) on the no-fly no-buy restriction. He is a LIBERAL? Your Kool-Ade must be powerful stuff.
It will be interesting to see what comes from this NRA meeting. Will Trump say that is not what he meant and the liberal press smeared him? Will he have a backbone to tell the NRA he is not walking this back? I am betting on option number 1. :1rotfl:
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06-15-2016, 08:33 PM
Your boy, Donald Trump, is in favor (as of today) on the no-fly no-buy restriction. He is a LIBERAL? Your Kool-Ade must be powerful stuff.
It will be interesting to see what comes from this NRA meeting. Will Trump say that is not what he meant and the liberal press smeared him? Will he have a backbone to tell the NRA he is not walking this back? I am betting on option number 1. :1rotfl:Maybe he is a maverick. [Sarah will love that.] I don't think I'll change my mind but I will have more respect for him.
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06-16-2016, 04:17 AM
The title of the thread is misleading. It says Trump takes on the NRA, when the point is that he went to the NRA to discuss ideas, not "take on."
Guest
06-16-2016, 06:24 AM
The title of the thread is misleading. It says Trump takes on the NRA, when the point is that he went to the NRA to discuss ideas, not "take on."
Whatever Everytown and their friends might imply, we are not talking here about selling guns to people who have been convicted in a court of law; that is already illegal. Rather, we are talking about selling guns to people who, as far as the state is concerned, have done nothing wrong and who must not therefore have their liberties abridged. It is an ugly testament to the illiberalism of many modern-day progressives that they are happily lining up on the authoritarian side against not just one, but two of America’s premier civil rights organizations.
Read more at: The NRA is Right -- The Terror Watch List Is a Disaster (http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/427266/nra-absolutely-right-fear-terrorism-watch-list-charles-c-w-cooke)
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06-16-2016, 06:31 AM
Too bad we can't hire these radical Islamists to go into the Chicago ghetto and clean it out. OH, that's right they have guns up there and will fight back. Well, when they eventually DO take our guns away, at least the ghettos will be safe. Kind of ironic, isn't it?
I'd PAY people to go in and "clean out" the ghettos.
There is no way there will ever exist a situation whe guns in this country will be "taken away".
Even if they were declared illegal to have all we would have to do is nothing and keep our guns just like the criminal elements and illegals do today.
I naturally assume lack of enforcement of the laws would be in continuence......even for white, armed, honest, tax paying Americans.
If it's registered and you have a PERMANENT address, they'll know where to find you. Unlike the minorities living in the ghetto. They'll have their guns longer than we do.
That would create how many felons? How many million lawbreakers would suddenly exist? Guess I would be one of them because not all of mine are registered, so there is no record of them.
The average American already commits an average of 3 felonies a day. There are THAT many ridiculous laws.
Of course, most people break laws everyday. Tell me you never went over 30 in TV. I don't think anybody is going to take guns away. May be some law about assault rifles. Then you can choose to obey it or not. If somebody shoots me, I am not going to care if the gun was registered.
We average 3 felonies a day.
If I understand it correctly the way it stands, you can be put on the no fly list without due cause,
and if you were put on it, you might find
it near impossible to get off it!
I'm SURE it partly a political list.
How many people have the SAME name? They don't have/use a SS number, so HOW do they KNOW who is who? I think it's a bunch of BS, the whole "list".
First it is the no fly list. Then it will be look a like wannabe assault rifles. Then it will be any semi-automatic rifle. Then it will be any semi-automatic pistol. Or maybe all magazines capable of holding more than ten rounds. Then it will be banning of all concealed carry. Some states banned all concealed carry of knives. Some states have banned carrying any knife over three inches in length. Good luck when you say that not allowing someone on the no fly list to purchase a fire arm, is no big deal. When has someone on the no-fly list ever committed these mass shootings? This guy was taken off the no-fly list. SO, unless I am mistaken, NONE. Liberals love to get one little inch in there so that the mile they are looking for will be easier to obtain. You liberals want to take cars away to prevent drunk driving.
First they came for the Jews and I did nothing, I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the intellectual radicals looking for change and I did nothing for I wasn't a radical. Then they came for... We all know the story. Eventually they come for everyone.
Guest
06-16-2016, 06:45 AM
First they came for the Jews and I did nothing, I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the intellectual radicals looking for change and I did nothing for I wasn't a radical. Then they came for... We all know the story. Eventually they come for everyone.I always skip to the end. Let me know when they're coming for the intellectuals. I'll save you a seat in case you're running late.
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06-16-2016, 07:34 AM
I always skip to the end. Let me know when they're coming for the intellectuals. I'll save you a seat in case you're running late.
You miss so much skipping to the end.
You won't be there, how can you save me a seat?
:)
Guest
06-16-2016, 07:55 AM
You miss so much skipping to the end.
You won't be there, how can you save me a seat?
:)I can phone it in.
Guest
06-16-2016, 09:44 AM
"They'll never take our guns away." Doesn't that sound a bit like the three most prevalent promises?
Got news for you. It's already starting. Limit the type of gun you can have. Limit the number of rounds such gun can hold in it's magazine. And now, a court just decided that the Constitution does not protect concealed carry.
Jun 10, 2016
"(CNN)A federal appeals court ruled on Thursday that there is no Second Amendment protection for concealed weapons -- allowing states to prohibit or restrict the public from carrying concealed firearms."
Just one of many reasons we need to keep a liberal out of the White House this election.
Guest
06-18-2016, 07:51 PM
Too bad we can't hire these radical Islamists to go into the Chicago ghetto and clean it out. OH, that's right they have guns up there and will fight back. Well, when they eventually DO take our guns away, at least the ghettos will be safe. Kind of ironic, isn't it?
Stop being so dramatic. No one is talking about prying your deal cold hands off your weapon of choice. When will you gun nuts stop beliving that nonsense. Hell you dont need the NRA making up those rumours, you can buy as many as you want without their scare tactics.
Cuz the NRA says so.
LZ
Guest
06-18-2016, 07:53 PM
"They'll never take our guns away." Doesn't that sound a bit like the three most prevalent promises?
Got news for you. It's already starting. Limit the type of gun you can have. Limit the number of rounds such gun can hold in it's magazine. And now, a court just decided that the Constitution does not protect concealed carry.
Jun 10, 2016
"(CNN)A federal appeals court ruled on Thursday that there is no Second Amendment protection for concealed weapons -- allowing states to prohibit or restrict the public from carrying concealed firearms."
Just one of many reasons we need to keep a liberal out of the White House this election.
Yes damn that government for stopping my recent purchase of a Sherman Tank. just Cuz.
LZ
Guest
06-18-2016, 08:54 PM
just Cuz.
LZ
What does "just Cuz" and "LZ" mean?
Guest
06-18-2016, 09:15 PM
"They'll never take our guns away." Doesn't that sound a bit like the three most prevalent promises?
Got news for you. It's already starting. Limit the type of gun you can have. Limit the number of rounds such gun can hold in it's magazine. And now, a court just decided that the Constitution does not protect concealed carry.
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Good! There is no need for an AR-15 style rifle for civilians. You should have a limited magazine of 5 or 7 rounds. Bolt action only for civilian use. Pistols only for police officers.
I thought you right wing nuts always want to give power to State government. Now, a decision that says a state can determine concealed carry and you come crying to the Federal government.
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06-18-2016, 09:31 PM
The thread is about Trump said he is going to meet with the NRA to tell them he is for not allowing gun sales to people on the no fly list.
The meeting has not happened yet.
Will he do it? Probably not. Trump panders to the right wing nut groups. They are the only ones who support Adolph Trump.
Guest
06-18-2016, 09:37 PM
Good! There is no need for an AR-15 style rifle for civilians. You should have a limited magazine of 5 or 7 rounds. Bolt action only for civilian use. Pistols only for police officers.
I thought you right wing nuts always want to give power to State government. Now, a decision that says a state can determine concealed carry and you come crying to the Federal government.
Keep Dreaming. Never going to happen, at least not in your lifetime.
Guest
06-19-2016, 04:25 AM
The thread is about Trump said he is going to meet with the NRA to tell them he is for not allowing gun sales to people on the no fly list.
The meeting has not happened yet.
Will he do it? Probably not. Trump panders to the right wing nut groups. They are the only ones who support Adolph Trump.
No, Trump was not going to meet with the NRA to demand anything. That is left wing rhetoric, not truth. He was to meet with them to discuss the issue for his campaign. He knows he has no authority to demand. The liberal media made it look as if he was going there to make demands.
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06-19-2016, 08:10 AM
Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
I will be meeting with the NRA, who has endorsed me, about not allowing people on the terrorist watch list, or the no fly list, to buy guns.
9:50 AM - 15 Jun 2016
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How did the NRA get that powerful? Doesn't Trump want to meet with anyone in congress?
Guest
06-19-2016, 08:15 AM
I thought you right wing nuts always want to give power to State government. Now, a decision that says a state can determine concealed carry and you come crying to the Federal government.
Well, which is it, right wing nuts? Is it that the authority is up to Federal or State governments? :a20::a20::a20:
Guest
06-19-2016, 08:42 AM
Another question is if a Muslim is suspected of being a terrorist, based on what he said that was corroborated with his friends does his name go on a list? Some people want him deported. But the same people don't want his name on the list that would prohibit him from buying a gun because that would violate his rights.
Which is it?
Guest
06-19-2016, 11:39 AM
Well, which is it, right wing nuts? Is it that the authority is up to Federal or State governments? :a20::a20::a20:
I won't call you stupid, because it would not be nice. However..............you do know that there is the 2nd Amendment, right? If there is already federal law, the state is not supposed to be able to circumvent it. Although, drugs are also prohibited by federal law and states do their own thing. Not legally, but still....
If there is no federal law regarding an issue, the state has the right to make regulations. If you want to get technical, then the 2nd Amendment says everyone can possess a firearm. It does not say anything about concealed carry or the type of firearm you are allowed to own. Of course, libtards feel that the first and second Amendments should be voided.
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06-19-2016, 11:46 AM
Another question is if a Muslim is suspected of being a terrorist, based on what he said that was corroborated with his friends does his name go on a list? Some people want him deported. But the same people don't want his name on the list that would prohibit him from buying a gun because that would violate his rights.
Which is it?
As always, libtards pervert the issue and go to the extreme.
Where did anyone say anything about the no-fly list being only for terrorists? They didn't, so you are being childish. And in this case, the animal that shot up the gay club was an American so you could NOT deport him.
And please show me where any of the mass shootings we have had would have been avoided if we made a law regarding a no-fly list. None of the shooters were on the no-fly list so what it amounts to is a bunch of do-nothing libtards wanting to create another useless law in a knee jerk reaction. What a bunch of idiots.
So, should a terrorist be deported of put on a list? Neither, I believe he should be shot and killed by someone on the scene that would have had a gun if the laws did not protect the killers in a gun free zone.
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06-19-2016, 12:35 PM
As always, libtards pervert the issue and go to the extreme.
Where did anyone say anything about the no-fly list being only for terrorists? They didn't, so you are being childish. And in this case, the animal that shot up the gay club was an American so you could NOT deport him.
And please show me where any of the mass shootings we have had would have been avoided if we made a law regarding a no-fly list. None of the shooters were on the no-fly list so what it amounts to is a bunch of do-nothing libtards wanting to create another useless law in a knee jerk reaction. What a bunch of idiots.
So, should a terrorist be deported of put on a list? Neither, I believe he should be shot and killed by someone on the scene that would have had a gun if the laws did not protect the killers in a gun free zone.
Where did anyone say anything about the no-fly list being only for terrorists?
They didn't. The list includes potentially dangerous people.
None of the shooters were on the no-fly list so what it amounts to is a bunch of do-nothing libtards wanting to create another useless law in a knee jerk reaction. What a bunch of idiots.
Marteen was taken off the list because he was no longer a threat. Was that a good idea? Do you think as we type the FBI isn't looking at everyone that has ever been put on the list and reevaluating?
Are you and Trump in agreement when it comes to deportation?
Neither, I believe he should be shot and killed by someone on the scene Like in Bonanza?
Guest
06-19-2016, 05:56 PM
Where did anyone say anything about the no-fly list being only for terrorists?
They didn't. The list includes potentially dangerous people.
None of the shooters were on the no-fly list so what it amounts to is a bunch of do-nothing libtards wanting to create another useless law in a knee jerk reaction. What a bunch of idiots.
Marteen was taken off the list because he was no longer a threat. Was that a good idea? Do you think as we type the FBI isn't looking at everyone that has ever been put on the list and reevaluating?
Are you and Trump in agreement when it comes to deportation?
Neither, I believe he should be shot and killed by someone on the scene Like in Bonanza?
A good show, yes.
Guest
06-19-2016, 07:25 PM
A good show, yes.If some don't confuse reality with make believe we have a better chance of helping potential targets.
Guest
06-20-2016, 03:33 AM
If some don't confuse reality with make believe we have a better chance of helping potential targets.
I agree. Liberals seem to exist in some sort of Obama Utopia where everyone smokes wacky weed and gets along......as long as they adhere to the far left's ideology.
Guest
06-20-2016, 06:52 AM
If some don't confuse reality with make believe we have a better chance of helping potential targets.
Just about everything on the "news" is make believe...
We know NOTHING about this "shooting" in Orlando.
Where is the video of INSIDE the club?
Just like 9-11 and the Pentagon...there IS video, but it's being withheld. I smell ANOTHER rat.
Guest
06-20-2016, 07:07 AM
Just about everything on the "news" is make believe...
We know NOTHING about this "shooting" in Orlando.
Where is the video of INSIDE the club?
Just like 9-11 and the Pentagon...there IS video, but it's being withheld. I smell ANOTHER rat.
Stock up on your tin foil. The voices are geting through your shield.
Guest
06-20-2016, 08:59 AM
Stock up on your tin foil. The voices are geting through your shield.
If you only knew how deep and how many lies the government tells...
Guest
06-20-2016, 09:30 AM
If you only knew how deep and how many lies the government tells...Tell me what you know. Your information is safe with me. I can't remember where I put my wallet.
Guest
06-20-2016, 10:09 AM
I read this today:
Trump Takes on the NBA
Look out LeBron !
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