No more gate cards

[twoplanekid]

With the installation of software that will provide immediate license plate recognition at the gates as announced in today’s Daily Sun, maybe the use of gate cards can be eliminated. At the very least, it will give someone a good indication of who is here and who is gone for the summer. Plus, it should provide data to help with traffic flow. I see many other uses of the data collected.

While the information collected will be shared with the Developer and our local government, I might have issues if it is given to other third parties.

Thanks to Boogie Shooter >
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Front page Daily Sun June 17.

Under headline “District supervisors Planning for the Future”

LICENSE RECOGNITION

Cost:$665,591

The Village Center and Sumter Landing CDDs, in partnership with the Villages Developer, plan to install software and a computer server that will provide immediate license plate recognition at gates throughout The Villages.

[Mleeja]

I would like too see the next step is a "plate" for the golf carts that could utilize the same reader and software. This would be VOLUNTARY!

[justjim]

Could someone post this article? Thanks.

[billethkid]

The current system is a traffic control system only. The cameras do have the capability to look back over a certain period of time when looking for a specific incident like breaking a gate arm or following up on traffic at the time of a robbery or other.

They do not keep track of the coming and going and who is here or not here.

Are you willing to pay a substantial increase in the amenity fee to get the sophistican some are looking for?

Included in the price increase would be the staffing to monitor and measure the results of the new sophistication.

To what end?

[asianthree]

How much is the "Sun"? 25 cents? I think the OP found it online.:undecided: = Free!

Only if your account is active those who go north for summer stops the sun. And their online site is less than easy to read

[CWGUY]

I would like too see the next step is a "plate" for the golf carts that could utilize the same reader and software. This would be VOLUNTARY!

"This would be VOLUNTARY!" We could make this the 4th. great lie. :sad:

[Bogie Shooter]

With the installation of software that will provide immediate license plate recognition at the gates as announced in today’s Daily Sun, maybe the use of gate cards can be eliminated. At the very least, it will give someone a good indication of who is here and who is gone for the summer. Plus, it should provide data to help with traffic flow. I see many other uses of the data collected.

While the information collected will be shared with the Developer and our local government, I might have issues if it is given to other third parties.

Front page Daily Sun June 17.

Under headline “District supervisors Planning for the Future”

LICENSE RECOGNITION

Cost:$665,591

The Village Center and Sumter Landing CDDs, in partnership with the Villages Developer, plan to install software and a computer server that will provide immediate license plate recognition at gates throughout The Villages.
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( I could not find any other information relating to this item)
Nothing was said about:
-eliminating gate cards
-nothing about who is here and who is not or who is gone for the summer
-nothing about traffic flow
-no indication of who would share the data
-nothing about sharing data with third parties.

Could you provide the source of these statements?

[twoplanekid]

Front page Daily Sun June 17.

Under headline “District supervisors Planning for the Future”

LICENSE RECOGNITION

Cost:$665,591

The Village Center and Sumter Landing CDDs, in partnership with the Villages Developer, plan to install software and a computer server that will provide immediate license plate recognition at gates throughout The Villages. Is this the first step to eliminate the need for gate cards, it could be!
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( I could not find any other information relating to this item)
Nothing was said about:
-eliminating gate cards
-nothing about who is here and who is not or who is gone for the summer
-nothing about traffic flow
-no indication of who would share the data
-nothing about sharing data with third parties.

Could you provide the source of these statements?

It's called data mining of information on a server. Yes, no mention of what the software could do other than saying License recognition. If you have questions to ask at the next Welcome Wednesday, ask away.

Is this the first step to eliminate gate cards, it could be!

[600th Photo Sq]

How much is the "Sun"? 25 cents? I think the OP found it online.:undecided: = Free!

The price of the Daily Sun is actually $.50 and has been that price for over 2 years...actually..

[Barefoot]

I think my problem was with the title you gave this thread..... " No more gate cards"
A method of getting attention to ensure the thread is read ... :shrug:

[Mickedamouse24]

What happens to vehicles that only have rear license plates?:undecided: Like, of course the State of Florida!

[Bogie Shooter]

It's called data mining of information on a server. Yes, no mention of what the software could do other than saying License recognition. If you have questions to ask at the next Welcome Wednesday, ask away.

Is this the first step to eliminate gate cards, it could be!

I play golf on Wednesday, could you have that meeting changed to Thursday?
It's not the first step............

[biker1]

The camera location, the capabilities, and how it will actually be used are unknown. It will all unfold in due time - no worries.

What happens to vehicles that only have rear license plates?:undecided: Like, of course the State of Florida!

[Harry Gilbert]

And these are being installed on public roadways? What do you think will happen if the system refuses to allow a vehicle through the gates?

Keep in mind TV is not a gated community.

[The Shadow]

The state of Florida has a thing called “Driver Privacy Protection Act”, in part DPPA restricts public access to your social security number, driver license or identification card number, name, address, telephone number and medical or disability information, contained in your motor vehicle and driver license records. Additionally, emergency contact information and email addresses are restricted pursuant to Section 119.0712(2), Florida Statutes.

So it looks to me like The Villages Community Watch can collect license numbers, put a time stamp on them, spend $665,591, hire a crew to fiddle with the numbers, spend more money for wages, and that looks like the extent of it and people will still be saving seats at Spanish Springs and bar tenders will be killed in Spanish Springs.

[rubicon]

The state of Florida has a thing called “Driver Privacy Protection Act”, in part DPPA restricts public access to your social security number, driver license or identification card number, name, address, telephone number and medical or disability information, contained in your motor vehicle and driver license records. Additionally, emergency contact information and email addresses are restricted pursuant to Section 119.0712(2), Florida Statutes.

So it looks to me like The Villages Community Watch can collect license numbers, put a time stamp on them, spend $665,591, hire a crew to fiddle with the numbers, spend more money for wages, and that looks like the extent of it and people will still be saving seats at Spanish Springs and bar tenders will be killed in Spanish Springs.

:thumbup:Creating more shovel ready jobs

[2BNTV]

My impression this system could be used for catching gate breakers or possible intruders, that could commit crimes........but then I have been wrong before and it won't be the last time. :D

[njbchbum]

My impression this system could be used for catching gate breakers or possible intruders, that could commit crimes........but then I have been wrong before and it won't be the last time. :D

Maybe the cars - but not the carts - until someone figures out how to get an identifier on them within camera range! ;)

[Sandtrap328]

Personally, I have never seen any problem with the gate cards. Sure, some folks complain they get a wet arm if it is raining. I have even heard some say their power window burns out from so much use.

I can open most gates by holding the card on the window. If not, I roll down the window. NO PROBLEM.

My sister lives in a development in Clermont. They use a large barcode decal on the back seat passenger window to enter their development. That works good, too.

[Topspinmo]

What the point? All have to do push the red button. IMO gate should automatically open after you stop or get close. Don't they already have camera on most the gates? If not are the ones I see fake? Looks like half million waste to me, but I'm cheap WSS.

[twoplanekid]

I am having a good time theorizing on why TV is spending $665,591 on license plate gate recognition software and server. Three possibilities come to mind.

As the gate attendants are unarmed and have no policing powers per Florida CDD regulations, maybe they will frown at the vehicles that show up as bad on the computer. However, it might be hard for them to do anything but smile and wave people on as that is what they have been doing for the ages. The gates that are not manned would have an Arnold Schwarzenegger voice saying something like “Please wait for the police to arrive to help you”

Another thought brings up the idea of doing something like the Florida pay turnpikes. One lane would be for residents whose license plate is recognized as being a residence something like a Sun Pass and the other would be for vendor recognized vehicles and others who have to pay. This might take some time to set up legally.

Finally and since this is a happy place, license plate recognition could be used to play the most popular state collage fight song as one passes through the gate. Ohio tags would of course trigger the playing of the Ohio State fight song. Then again, too much noise might not be popular to those close to gates.

So, I am stumped as to the purpose of spending this much money and will have to wait until next Wednesday to maybe be told the real story.

[DonH57]

I've never had an issue getting the thingy to read my card opening the gate when it's raining, you just have to get close enough. Maybe explains why some get plowed over and no, it's not me!

[Bavarian]

I am having a good time theorizing on why TV is spending $665,591 on license plate gate recognition software and server. Three possibilities come to mind.

As the gate attendants are unarmed and have no policing powers per Florida CDD regulations, maybe they will frown at the vehicles that show up as bad on the computer. However, it might be hard for them to do anything but smile and wave people on as that is what they have been doing for the ages. The gates that are not manned would have an Arnold Schwarzenegger voice saying something like “Please wait for the police to arrive to help you”

Another thought brings up the idea of doing something like the Florida pay turnpikes. One lane would be for residents whose license plate is recognized as being a residence something like a Sun Pass and the other would be for vendor recognized vehicles and others who have to pay. This might take some time to set up legally.

Finally and since this is a happy place, license plate recognition could be used to play the most popular state collage fight song as one passes through the gate. Ohio tags would of course trigger the playing of the Ohio State fight song. Then again, too much noise might not be popular to those close to gates.

So, I am stumped as to the purpose of spending this much money and will have to wait until next Wednesday to maybe be told the real story.

If Fast food drive throughs can charge your order to Easy Pass (used to have it before moving here), shoud be able to read SunPass and see if person is legal. And get rid of the Red Buttons.

People, stopping running thru gates, ours has to be frequently repaired.

[twoplanekid]

A few more ramblings of mine of the reason for and uses of license plate recognition software. Some of the following might be true.:D

As terrorists might be looking for soft targets, The Villages could check the ins and outs of vehicles to match against terror lists. If a certain number of visits are reached, then the FBI would be alerted about a potential attack somewhere in The Villages.

As TV is trying to reduce or eliminate solicitors, the software could recognize these people and note the frequency and location of their visits. Letters could then be sent asking them to visit another place.

A list could be compiled on local people living close to the Villages who visit TV on a regular basis. Questions could then be asked as to the nature of these visits.

I still would like to have it used to open the gates.

As cities/communities become smart cities, data collection and then data mining will become a useful tool within reason to enhance the good life for citizens within those locations. I am becoming more and more interested in how this software will be used in TV to better this already fantastic place.

My wife says that I chuckle and laugh a lot more here than back in Ohio! It’s a happy place and I want it to remain so. :beer3:

[Barefoot]

So, I am stumped as to the purpose of spending this much money and will have to wait until next Wednesday to maybe be told the real story.
I'm sure you'll share the results of Wednesday's investigation with us.

[Gpsma]

Get rid of those stupid gates on public roads already.

[Bogie Shooter]

A few more ramblings of mine of the reason for and uses of license plate recognition software. Some of the following might be true.:D

As terrorists might be looking for soft targets, The Villages could check the ins and outs of vehicles to match against terror lists. If a certain number of visits are reached, then the FBI would be alerted about a potential attack somewhere in The Villages.

As TV is trying to reduce or eliminate solicitors, the software could recognize these people and note the frequency and location of their visits. Letters could then be sent asking them to visit another place.

A list could be compiled on local people living close to the Villages who visit TV on a regular basis. Questions could then be asked as to the nature of these visits.

I still would like to have it used to open the gates.

As cities/communities become smart cities, data collection and then data mining will become a useful tool within reason to enhance the good life for citizens within those locations. I am becoming more and more interested in how this software will be used in TV to better this already fantastic place.

My wife says that I chuckle and laugh a lot more here than back in Ohio! It’s a happy place and I want it to remain so. :beer3:

Something about civil liberties may crush your ideas.

[Bogie Shooter]

Get rid of those stupid gates on public roads already.

Have you considered the safety aspect of the gates?

[graciegirl]

Get rid of those stupid gates on public roads already.



I am sure that it looks that way to you but if you lived here you would see that gates slow traffic and that protects cart drivers as they cross.

[Gpsma]

I am sure that it looks that way to you but if you lived here you would see that gates slow traffic and that protects cart drivers as they cross.

Perhaps you are correct. I will be living in the Villages shortly but i have been down there often for many years

Perhaps if the safety of cart drivers is your concern you can advocate for Senior Citizen re-licensing exams and more DWI and speeding patrols in the Villages.

Oh wait...making people control their drinking will cut into revenue at the town squares and Morse Familly percenttage rent...i forgot.

[bandsdavis]

Get rid of those stupid gates on public roads already.

I'm afraid if the gates were eliminated, a lot of golf cart - auto accidents would occur because of auto drivers flying thru the "non-gates" while carts try to get across the intersection.