Betting Odds - not polls

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Election betting odds are now showing that Hillary Clinton has a 74.4 percent chance of being the next President.

Donald Trump is limping in at a 20 percent chance of being the next President.

The professional gamblers (yes, they do make a living doing this) are picking Hillary.

Not a partisan choosing here - just what the professional odds makers are saying. :beer3:

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Déjà vu

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They too...know the game is fixed.

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If you bet $3 on Hillary you will win $1 if she wins. Put up 30 grand and in 1 day you will make 10 grand.
That's not a fix. It's a good rate of return.

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If betting odds are such a good indicator then why aren't more people winning at the race track than lose....yes including those who buy the odds makers sheets from the so called experts.

The only sure winner is the odds maker(s).
Remembe Clinton's MI forecast?

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If betting odds are such a good indicator then why aren't more people winning at the race track than lose....yes including those who buy the odds makers sheets from the so called experts.

The only sure winner is the odds maker(s).
Remembe Clinton's MI forecast?Ask someone to explain to you how gambling odds work.

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Give it another month and the odds will change. Two weeks ago, Trump was leading over Chillary. It's still a long way before Nov 8.

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Give it another month and the odds will change. Two weeks ago, Trump was leading over Chillary. It's still a long way before Nov 8.Maybe in the polls but not in the betting odds. I've been watching them and they are pretty steady.

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Maybe in the polls but not in the betting odds. I've been watching them and they are pretty steady.

Absolutely true!

Polls are manipulated for whatever group does them. Betting odds are all about money. The politics have nothing to do with betting odds.

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Ask someone to explain to you how gambling odds work.

And what the :censored: is that supposed to prove?

In addition to making a wrong presumption that one does not.

Typical twist of another's viewpoint or post to make a point or further an agenda!!!

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And what the :censored: is that supposed to prove?

In addition to making a wrong presumption that one does not.

Typical twist of another's viewpoint or post to make a point or further an agenda!!!It means they don't understand how betting works. Explain it to them?

BTW just curse, TOTV will block it out for you. Either way it's not shocking now that we're all past 12.

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#%&£ %&×( @##

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Absolutely true!

Polls are manipulated for whatever group does them. Betting odds are all about money. The politics have nothing to do with betting odds.

Politics has everything to do with it. They know the "race" is fixed.

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Election betting odds are now showing that Hillary Clinton has a 74.4 percent chance of being the next President.

Donald Trump is limping in at a 20 percent chance of being the next President.

The professional gamblers (yes, they do make a living doing this) are picking Hillary.

Not a partisan choosing here - just what the professional odds makers are saying. :beer3:

I hope they are right. We need Hillary Clinton over the con man Donald Trump.

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I hope they are right. We need Hillary Clinton over the con man Donald Trump.

What an idiotic joke. To suggest that anyone could compare to the Clinton con's is ludicrous. You are definitely not the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree. But, you are not alone. Not too many liberals are considered "bright." It is obvious that the liberal claim to higher education is a very expensive con/joke. Apparently, all liberals learn in college is how to get to the end as easy and effortlessly as possible. And that is how they take life, easy and no effort. Synonymous with what the average person would call "LAZY." Just more educated welfare cases, looking for a fast buck or freebie. And they finish college without learning anything but how to scam the system. College is so easy now, that my granddaughter that isn't even old enough to drive yet, is taking college courses and will have a two year degree by the time she graduates from high school. Not to disparage her, because she is a well motivated and smart young lady. But, college degrees can be obtained in a multitude of ways, including on-line, correspondence, part-time and night school. It's not even necessary to visit a college campus anymore. But, that is where you will find your empty headed liberal, on the college campus.

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What an idiotic joke. To suggest that anyone could compare to the Clinton con's is ludicrous. You are definitely not the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree. But, you are not alone. Not too many liberals are considered "bright." It is obvious that the liberal claim to higher education is a very expensive con/joke. Apparently, all liberals learn in college is how to get to the end as easy and effortlessly as possible. And that is how they take life, easy and no effort. Synonymous with what the average person would call "LAZY." Just more educated welfare cases, looking for a fast buck or freebie. And they finish college without learning anything but how to scam the system. College is so easy now, that my granddaughter that isn't even old enough to drive yet, is taking college courses and will have a two year degree by the time she graduates from high school. Not to disparage her, because she is a well motivated and smart young lady. But, college degrees can be obtained in a multitude of ways, including on-line, correspondence, part-time and night school. It's not even necessary to visit a college campus anymore. But, that is where you will find your empty headed liberal, on the college campus.

Your grand daughter will do fine. She's smart and has ambition.

It's the other 100,000 going for 10,000 jobs who kicked back, partied, and got Cs who won't do well. They wasted their tuition. We'll probably end up paying for it too. We can't ALL be chiefs, and some have no business trying.

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Your grand daughter will do fine. She's smart and has ambition.

It's the other 100,000 going for 10,000 jobs who kicked back, partied, and got Cs who won't do well. They wasted their tuition. We'll probably end up paying for it too. We can't ALL be chiefs, and some have no business trying.

Obama raises his hand and shouts it worked for me.

And Clinton is right behind him saying me too.

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Obama raises his hand and shouts it worked for me.

And Clinton is right behind him saying me too.

I believe there is a difference between Affirmative Action and those that earned it/qualified for it. I don't put much stock in Obama's education when he doesn't even know the difference between a corpse and a corpsman. One being a dead body and the other trying to keep one from becoming a dead body. I don't put much value in his education if he doesnt' know how many states we have. And I certainly don't put much credibility in his being Commander-in-Chief if he doesn't know the difference between an assault weapon (full automatic capability) and a semi-automatic weapon.

On the other hand, Clinton does not even know her Constitution, let alone what constitutes a "weapon of war" as she calls it.

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I believe there is a difference between Affirmative Action and those that earned it/qualified for it. I don't put much stock in Obama's education when he doesn't even know the difference between a corpse and a corpsman. One being a dead body and the other trying to keep one from becoming a dead body. I don't put much value in his education if he doesnt' know how many states we have. And I certainly don't put much credibility in his being Commander-in-Chief if he doesn't know the difference between an assault weapon (full automatic capability) and a semi-automatic weapon.

On the other hand, Clinton does not even know her Constitution, let alone what constitutes a "weapon of war" as she calls it.I wouldn't either if what you said were true.

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I wouldn't either if what you said were true.

It's all on record. Google is your friend.

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It's all on record. Google is your friend.It's all been disproved. Snopes is your enemy.

[Think about it for a second. Obama thinks there are 57 states. Somebody tells you that and it makes sense to you. hmmmm]

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What an idiotic joke. To suggest that anyone could compare to the Clinton con's is ludicrous. You are definitely not the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree. But, you are not alone. Not too many liberals are considered "bright." It is obvious that the liberal claim to higher education is a very expensive con/joke. Apparently, all liberals learn in college is how to get to the end as easy and effortlessly as possible. And that is how they take life, easy and no effort. Synonymous with what the average person would call "LAZY." Just more educated welfare cases, looking for a fast buck or freebie. And they finish college without learning anything but how to scam the system. College is so easy now, that my granddaughter that isn't even old enough to drive yet, is taking college courses and will have a two year degree by the time she graduates from high school. Not to disparage her, because she is a well motivated and smart young lady. But, college degrees can be obtained in a multitude of ways, including on-line, correspondence, part-time and night school. It's not even necessary to visit a college campus anymore. But, that is where you will find your empty headed liberal, on the college campus.

Name all the repub conservatives that are in the the high tech computer industry's, silicon valley?

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Name all the repub conservatives that are in the the high tech computer industry's, silicon valley?
Why is that? Why are the most highly educated people liberal? Wouldn't they be the first ones to sniff out indoctrination? Bright students question everything.

And if you want to make a good living your terminal degree is not a BS, unless you are an engineer. They can't stop learning and don't need a classroom.

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Give it another month and the odds will change. Two weeks ago, Trump was leading over Chillary. It's still a long way before Nov 8.

Trump has never been anywhere near Ms Clinton in the http://predictt.org web page. These are not polls. I still cant believe someone posted elsewhere that Trump would win in a landslide. I saved her message so i can share it with her in November.

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It's all been disproved. Snopes is your enemy.

[Think about it for a second. Obama thinks there are 57 states. Somebody tells you that and it makes sense to you. hmmmm]

Sorry Charlie, but just because you say it, does not make it true. Everyone of those were statements made by them and I heard them when they said them. You can not make that stuff up. You are wrong. You can't deny something just on a whim. Obama made that statement regarding the 57 states during his campaign in 2008, and probably anyone on here knows he said it. If you live in denial, I understand how you would be blind to the truth. That's why you are supporting that evil bit*ch, Hillary. The criminal, liar and tax cheat. The one that is disloyal to her fellow Americans and would leave them out to die without even considering a rescue attempt. Probably sleeping off a drunk at the time she was called.

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Name all the repub conservatives that are in the the high tech computer industry's, silicon valley?

Hate to break it to you, but I was in the High Tech computer industry and made as much as a coworker that had his PHD. The same amount. I didn't work in Silicon Valley because I did not wish to.

But, whenever someone makes a statement that liberals does not like, they have to find one little alternate detail that might prove something to their liking, that might almost support them. Liberals should reevaluate their flawed thinking, because their thinking betrays their "liberal" ideology. Why not just leave the "liberal and progressive" label behind and admit that liberals are really SOCIALISTS and you do not argue with a SOCIALIST. And socialism is not progressive, it's OLD.

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Trump has never been anywhere near Ms Clinton in the http://predictt.org web page. These are not polls. I still cant believe someone posted elsewhere that Trump would win in a landslide. I saved her message so i can share it with her in November.

Trump was leading two weeks ago, period. Living in denial will result in your candidate losing. Bet all the money you wish, but you are also betting the future of our country. Gambling on this election just makes one a loser.

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It's all been disproved. Snopes is your enemy.

[Think about it for a second. Obama thinks there are 57 states. Somebody tells you that and it makes sense to you. hmmmm]

Hate to call you a liar, but you are a LIAR.

Obama Claims He's Visited 57 States - YouTube (https://youtu.be/EpGH02DtIws)

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Trump was leading two weeks ago, period. Living in denial will result in your candidate losing. Bet all the money you wish, but you are also betting the future of our country. Gambling on this election just makes one a loser.
Trump and gambling, how did that go? Does loser come to mind?

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Hate to call you a liar, but you are a LIAR.

Obama Claims He's Visited 57 States - YouTube (https://youtu.be/EpGH02DtIws)

He meant 47. Big deal.

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Sorry Charlie, but just because you say it, does not make it true. Everyone of those were statements made by them and I heard them when they said them. You can not make that stuff up. You are wrong. You can't deny something just on a whim. Obama made that statement regarding the 57 states during his campaign in 2008, and probably anyone on here knows he said it. If you live in denial, I understand how you would be blind to the truth. That's why you are supporting that evil bit*ch, Hillary. The criminal, liar and tax cheat. The one that is disloyal to her fellow Americans and would leave them out to die without even considering a rescue attempt. Probably sleeping off a drunk at the time she was called.Of course he said it. No one denies he said it. That's not the question. Do you think Obama does not know how many states there are?

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Trump was leading two weeks ago, period. Living in denial will result in your candidate losing. Bet all the money you wish, but you are also betting the future of our country. Gambling on this election just makes one a loser.

As I said in the first post, this is non-partisan. Vote for whichever candidate you want - but put your money on the one most favored to win.

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As I said in the first post, this is non-partisan. Vote for whichever candidate you want - but put your money on the one most favored to win.

remember the MI prognosis????

Clinton to beat Sanders by double digits.

Actual result? Clinton lost to Sanders by double digits.

So what happened to the prognosticators on this one??

And enlighten us with the odds making knowledge.....of those favored to win what is the record of actul wins to forecast??? To beat the drums with such authority one mst certainly has such information.....right?

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What an idiotic joke. To suggest that anyone could compare to the Clinton con's is ludicrous. You are definitely not the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree. But, you are not alone. Not too many liberals are considered "bright." It is obvious that the liberal claim to higher education is a very expensive con/joke. Apparently, all liberals learn in college is how to get to the end as easy and effortlessly as possible. And that is how they take life, easy and no effort. Synonymous with what the average person would call "LAZY." Just more educated welfare cases, looking for a fast buck or freebie. And they finish college without learning anything but how to scam the system. College is so easy now, that my granddaughter that isn't even old enough to drive yet, is taking college courses and will have a two year degree by the time she graduates from high school. Not to disparage her, because she is a well motivated and smart young lady. But, college degrees can be obtained in a multitude of ways, including on-line, correspondence, part-time and night school. It's not even necessary to visit a college campus anymore. But, that is where you will find your empty headed liberal, on the college campus.

Way to generalize about liberals. That's like saying all conservatives are bigots. BTW, stick a fork in Trump. He lost any chance of winning with his lunacy the last two weeks.

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remember the MI prognosis????

Clinton to beat Sanders by double digits.

Actual result? Clinton lost to Sanders by double digits.

So what happened to the prognosticators on this one??

And enlighten us with the odds making knowledge.....of those favored to win what is the record of actul wins to forecast??? To beat the drums with such authority one mst certainly has such information.....right?I have posted this link numerous times. click here (http://www.paddypower.com/bet/politics/other-politics/us-politics?ev_oc_grp_ids=791149)
They used to be called bookies. Bookies don't share their insight. The people who bet believe in their horse, team, golfer or candidate so much they put up their money.

Everybody knows that if you around my age.

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Way to generalize about liberals. That's like saying all conservatives are bigots. BTW, stick a fork in Trump. He lost any chance of winning with his lunacy the last two weeks.

It ain't over until the fat Hillary sings. And she may be singing from behind bars, like a little yellow canary. Trump beat 16 opponents that did not have the baggage that Chillary is carrying.

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It ain't over until the fat Hillary sings. And she may be singing from behind bars, like a little yellow canary. Trump beat 16 opponents that did not have the baggage that Chillary is carrying.If I was you I would bet $100,000 just to show the rest of us your confidence.

[If you suspect there might be something really wrong with you please discuss this with your children before making any bets. I don't want to lose any sleep.]

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If I was you I would bet $100,000 just to show the rest of us your confidence.

[If you suspect there might be something really wrong with you please discuss this with your children before making any bets. I don't want to lose any sleep.]

I don't gamble. I don't even buy lotto tickets. I am putting my faith in decent Americans to realize that Hillary is a scumbag and then vote against her. I find it totally unbelievable that she is still not incarcerated. Obama is playing America for the fools they are.

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I have posted this link numerous times. click here (http://www.paddypower.com/bet/politics/other-politics/us-politics?ev_oc_grp_ids=791149)
They used to be called bookies. Bookies don't share their insight. The people who bet believe in their horse, team, golfer or candidate so much they put up their money.

Everybody knows that if you around my age.

Granted!

What I am presenting is, no matter what one believes or what the odds makers say or what the bookies say all that is important at the end of the day is how many of what they believed or forecasted or booked or bet actaully won.

Statistically it is no different than any other gamble. And the favorites do not prevail or there would be many, many people getting rich placing bets, which there are not.

My position is the elections odds makers and prognosticators or whatever anybody wants to call them have no more insight than those who were predicting Clinton to win MI by double digits. And they all tore up their bets and went home when she lost by double digits.

Political odds making is like measuring passing clouds!!!

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I don't gamble. I don't even buy lotto tickets. I am putting my faith in decent Americans to realize that Hillary is a scumbag and then vote against her. I find it totally unbelievable that she is still not incarcerated. Obama is playing America for the fools they are.

Yada yada yada, a decent American wouldn't call someone a scumbag.

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Granted!

What I am presenting is, no matter what one believes or what the odds makers say or what the bookies say all that is important at the end of the day is how many of what they believed or forecasted or booked or bet actaully won.

Statistically it is no different than any other gamble. And the favorites do not prevail or there would be many, many people getting rich placing bets, which there are not.

My position is the elections odds makers and prognosticators or whatever anybody wants to call them have no more insight than those who were predicting Clinton to win MI by double digits. And they all tore up their bets and went home when she lost by double digits.

Political odds making is like measuring passing clouds!!!
Put your money where your mouth is and you will be rich.

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Yada yada yada, a decent American wouldn't call someone a scumbag.You must be new here. There are a handful that have no respect for anyone much less those who are in public office. In other countries they would have disappeared. Read all the news sources and despite what the people on this thread say all the candidates support the 10 amendments of the constitution. God bless America.

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You must be new here. There are a handful that have no respect for anyone much less those who are in public office. In other countries they would have disappeared. Read all the news sources and despite what the people on this thread say all the candidates support the 10 amendments of the constitution. God bless America.

What about the remaining 17 amendments?

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What about the remaining 17 amendments?Well,,,I put my foot in my mouth didn't I?
I usually look things up. Political talking is relatively new to me----but that's no excuse. At least I didn't say there are 47 states. I'd have to live with that for the rest of my life.

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Well,,,I put my foot in my mouth didn't I?
I usually look things up. Political talking is relatively new to me----but that's no excuse. At least I didn't say there are 47 states. I'd have to live with that for the rest of my life.

Or in the case of Obama, 57 sates. But, in his case he probably really didn't know what was correct.

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Yada yada yada, a decent American wouldn't call someone a scumbag.

A "decent American" as defined by libtards? Do you have a more appropriate descriptor for Hillary, the thief, the felon, the pathological liar, the disloyal traitor to her people? I thought that "scumbag" put all of that together nicely.

Does one's lack of PC disturb you?

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You must be new here. There are a handful that have no respect for anyone much less those who are in public office. In other countries they would have disappeared. Read all the news sources and despite what the people on this thread say all the candidates support the 10 amendments of the constitution. God bless America.

Yes, and in a country where the Clinton's rule, many also disappear mysteriously.

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I don't gamble. I don't even buy lotto tickets. I am putting my faith in decent Americans to realize that Hillary is a scumbag and then vote against her. I find it totally unbelievable that she is still not incarcerated. Obama is playing America for the fools they are.

Decent Americans are being replaced by blacks and hispanics...they're already the majority under age 6...good luck with that.

You ARE fools, you keep voting for Ds and Rs even though they rob and cheat you.

Granted!

What I am presenting is, no matter what one believes or what the odds makers say or what the bookies say all that is important at the end of the day is how many of what they believed or forecasted or booked or bet actaully won.

Statistically it is no different than any other gamble. And the favorites do not prevail or there would be many, many people getting rich placing bets, which there are not.

My position is the elections odds makers and prognosticators or whatever anybody wants to call them have no more insight than those who were predicting Clinton to win MI by double digits. And they all tore up their bets and went home when she lost by double digits.

Political odds making is like measuring passing clouds!!!

Many sports events are "fixed", bookies know this and set the odds appropriately. Elections are also fixed.

You must be new here. There are a handful that have no respect for anyone much less those who are in public office. In other countries they would have disappeared. Read all the news sources and despite what the people on this thread say all the candidates support the 10 amendments of the constitution. God bless America.

Why respect a liar and thief? Because they BOUGHT their way into office?

"News sources"? You mean propaganda sources.