Resident of The Villages charged with shooting into neighbor's home

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Resident of The Villages charged with shooting into neighbor's home - Story | WOFL (http://www.fox35orlando.com/news/local-news/163788653-story)

[john1953]

A real nut case,glad he's not my neighbor.I like the NO bond.He really does need to stay in jail for awhile

[Sandtrap328]

Do you think he had a CCW? Will it be revoked? Will all guns be permanently taken from this man?

I saw a post on another thread that said it is illegal to handle guns while under the influence but did not see that in the charges.

Even IF the lady is granted a permanent restraining order against the perp, she will continue to be in danger from him. The law can only protect her IF he breaks the order and has contact with her. It might be too late for her when police arrive. Even if she buys a gun for protection, she will be living in constant fear of him until he is (if) put in prison. From what we have seen of the slap on the wrist justice in Sumter County, it is a long stretch of the imagination to think he will go to prison.

[Topspinmo]

I doubt defense lawyer will be able to keep out of the big house. IMO by the time his trail is over he will have to sell his house to pay lawyer fees and still get 15 to 20.

[Kahuna32162]

How much closer does this have to get to home? A sig sauer 9 mm semi automatic with clips that held 15 and 20 shots each. Does he have the right to own it, yes. Should he own it NO.

[Taltarzac725]

Resident of The Villages charged with shooting into neighbor's home - Story | WOFL (http://www.fox35orlando.com/news/local-news/163788653-story)

This does happen every so often in the Villages that there is some kind of shooting incident.

There is something people can do for survivors/victims of this. Bug the local librarians as well as the local law enforcement web-site managers to get links to the National Alliance on Mental Illness along with a link to the Florida Victim Services Directory. You can get these web-sites easily just by Googling but it is a way of public awareness and support of mental health and victim/witness survivor resources available in our Villages' community.

I have been pushing this off-and-on since I came of Talk of the Villages in July 2007 at least with respect to Florida Victim Services Directory.

My brother-in-law Jim became enamored of weapons like this and gradually became more and more mentally ill-- he thought my sister-in-law was an alien-- and eventually shot himself in the head killing himself in November of 2014 in a rural part of Virginia.

I have complicated views on weapons of self-defense but there are some people-- like my late brother-in-law Jim-- who should not have access to guns of any kind. I know that a car/truck is just as deadly a weapon in some situations but some control is better than little.

Also Google Taltarzac725. It should give you some ideas of what more you could do. That's my 224 613 Project. That's something I have been doing since January 1991 and what now I believe is making tremendous strides because a lot of people have had enough and will do anything to get involved as well as with helping the more and more victims and survivors these kind of crimes create.

[TNLAKEPANDA]

I would have been firing back. End of problem!

[alwann]

Don't overlook the booze. People do strange things when drunk, unrequited lovers especially. America tried banning booze once, but that didn't work. Neither will banning guns. Drunks and crazies will find a way.

[Taltarzac725]

Don't overlook the booze. People do strange things when drunk, unrequited lovers especially. America tried banning booze once, but that didn't work. Neither will banning guns. Drunks and crazies will find a way.

That's true. But certain kinds of guns should only be in the hands of those well trained to use them who are mentally healthy and also have other controls on them.

I remember when a mentally ill woman drove her car into a crowd in Reno, Nevada during Thanksgiving. Priscilla Ford - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priscilla_Ford) Cannot really stop some people from driving, but we should try that as well.

[kstew43]

Stop and think about what could of happened if she had been at home.........so scary.....the fact that the bullets made it into the kitchen cabinets.....

[Kahuna32162]

I would have been firing back. End of problem!

Then you would be in jail too.....and for a long time

[Kahuna32162]

I would have been firing back. End of problem!

Just the beginning of your problem, you'd be in jail too for a long time.

[Cathy H]

so many guns. so many annoying neighbors. great second amendment. fire away!

[John_W]

Do you think he had a CCW? Will it be revoked? Will all guns be permanently taken from this man?...


1) No
2) n/a
3) Yes, if convicted or pleads to a felony or is found mentally incompetant.

[John_W]

Originally Posted by TNLAKEPANDA View Post
I would have been firing back. End of problem!

Just the beginning of your problem, you'd be in jail too for a long time.

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You're inside your own home and someone looking like this is firing 33 rounds through your front door. 'stand your ground' 'self-defense', 'home invasion' 'burglar' 'armed robbery', I can think of a whole bunch of reasons why you wouldn't be in jail for a long time.

[Chatbrat]

He is now retired, 3 hots and a cot and a health plan. 25 years minimum. He's gone.

[village dreamer]

33 shots and only 3k in damages.........the front door cost $1800..................

[Taltarzac725]

33 shots and only 3k in damages.........the front door cost $1800..................

The worse damages will be to this woman's sense of security in her home. That is priceless.

[Bosoxfan]

I would have been firing back. End of problem!

What is this the O.K. Corral? Seniors shooting seniors . Take the guns away from these fools. I believe in the right to bear arms but only to stable minds not any shoot that wants one.

[Bosoxfan]

I would have been firing back. End of problem!

What is this the O.K. Corral? Seniors shooting seniors . Take the guns away from these fools. I believe in the right to bear arms but only to stable minds not any shmo that wants one.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Do you think he had a CCW? Will it be revoked? Will all guns be permanently taken from this man?

No idea if he has a CCW permit and it's irrelevant. If he's found guilty or pleads to a felony or is found mentally incompetent his right to bear arms will be revoked.

[Sandtrap328]

No idea if he has a CCW permit and it's irrelevant. If he's found guilty or pleads to a felony or is found mentally incompetent his right to bear arms will be revoked.

He is being held without bond right now BUT we all know he will get bond before his trial - which could be a few years away.

Will he have his guns while on bond? Will he be able to terrorize the lady while on bond? If his guns are taken away, how difficult would it be to get another illegaly to "get even" with the neighbors or to go after the lady again?

Is it right to make her remain scared for her life? Lots of questions, no answers.

[Topspinmo]

Guess don't watch Orlando news? Several shooting or gun discharged every day. I'm sure every major city has just as many or more incidents. 33 killed in Chicago and serval more wounded and that don't count the ones that missed on Father's Day weekend and hand guns are outlawed in Chicago. Should be against the law for anybody over 65 to drink alcohol.:beer3::beer3::beer3:

[outlaw]

Then you would be in jail too.....and for a long time

Uh, why would he be in jail too? It's called self defense.

[outlaw]

He is being held without bond right now BUT we all know he will get bond before his trial - which could be a few years away.

Will he have his guns while on bond? Will he be able to terrorize the lady while on bond? If his guns are taken away, how difficult would it be to get another illegaly to "get even" with the neighbors or to go after the lady again?

Is it right to make her remain scared for her life? Lots of questions, no answers.

It's very easy to get a gun illegally. Pretty much just like drugs. He will not get his gun back until possibly after the trial; and then, probably never.

[Chi-Town]

He is being held without bond right now BUT we all know he will get bond before his trial - which could be a few years away.

Will he have his guns while on bond? Will he be able to terrorize the lady while on bond? If his guns are taken away, how difficult would it be to get another illegaly to "get even" with the neighbors or to go after the lady again?

Is it right to make her remain scared for her life? Lots of questions, no answers.

You are right about posting bond and a long time before a trial. Where does the case stand where a guy shot into a car from his motorcycle on 466? That's heading towards the two year mark.

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[Nucky]

There is a very high probability that if this man was not drinking that the gun and mental issues wouldn't have been magnified to the point of acting out like this. He just flushed his life and ruined the victims life and probably those who are close to her down the drain. For a drink....what a waste and a shame. I hope the lady recovers somehow with professional assistance. The shooter will be dry in jail, but I hope he finds real sobriety while locked up.

[CFrance]

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You're inside your own home and someone looking like this is firing 33 rounds through your front door. 'stand your ground' 'self-defense', 'home invasion' 'burglar' 'armed robbery', I can think of a whole bunch of reasons why you wouldn't be in jail for a long time.
Nevertheless, what's she supposed to do? Open the door and fire back? She'd be dead before she got to it.

[Taltarzac725]

Nevertheless, what's she supposed to do? Open the door and fire back? She'd be dead before she got to it.

Get behind something metal and big and call 911. Or, run out the back door while calling 911. And hope there are not two people coming at you from different directions.

[obxgal]

According to the paper Sparber and his wife bought their home in The Villages in March 2008.

Not only do I feel bad for is victim by also for his wife. Think I'd be filing for divorce.

[CFrance]

Get behind something metal and big and call 911. Or, run out the back door while calling 911. And hope there are not two people coming at you from different directions.
That's another point: She wouldn't know who and how many are out there. I wouldn't go near a window to find out.

[Ecuadog]

... Should be against the law for anybody over 65 to drink alcohol.

Now, you just wait one stinkin' minute there.

[Taltarzac725]

Now, you just wait one stinkin' minute there.

Try enforcing that. The lawyers and criminals get rich when you try to ban something like alcohol.

[patfla06]

What a terrifying thing and luckily she wasn't home.

Want to bet he gets probation???

[rubicon]

Temptresses real or imagined have existed since the beginning of mankind. Add booze and an old fool to the equation and you have a recipe for disaster. This has nothing to do with guns. If he didn't have one he would have thrown rocks or something else through her window or it would have gone crashing through her door. Yes indeed he has destroyed a lot of lives with his foolishness.

Out of control libidos have been the bane of humankind in so many ways

[redwitch]

Having a stalker is terrifying. Having a stalker who tries to harm you is truly life changing. You never quit looking over your shoulder. If typical of most stalking cases, this man will get a light sentence with some mandatory counseling. The woman will have a life sentence of fear and worry and therapy will only help a little. She will never feel safe in her home again, no matter where her home is. Been there, done that, can write the book.

[graciegirl]

I hope that this is a good thing in the end. She wasn't harmed and he is arrested. I agree with Redwitch. I hope they throw the book at him. At least he is now known as a danger. His mugshot has been seen.

[RickeyD]

Temptresses real or imagined have existed since the beginning of mankind. Add booze and an old fool to the equation and you have a recipe for disaster. This has nothing to do with guns. If he didn't have one he would have thrown rocks or something else through her window or it would have gone crashing through her door. Yes indeed he has destroyed a lot of lives with his foolishness.



Out of control libidos have been the bane of humankind in so many ways



5 Famous Temptresses of the Bible (http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/5-famous-temptresses-of-the-bible/)

[rhood]

i question the sanity of the fools who confronted him when he was armed.

[BK001]

Now, you just wait one stinkin' minute there.


I "double" that!

[2BNTV]

I triple that!!!

Today's DS said he was in jail with "no bond". You have to feel sorry for his wife, in that he was lusting after another woman.

Scary and sad.

BTW - I'm sure his spouse is upset at these turn of events, as he seems to gone off the deep end. From a nice home in TV, to jail!

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

He is being held without bond right now BUT we all know he will get bond before his trial - which could be a few years away.

Will he have his guns while on bond? Will he be able to terrorize the lady while on bond? If his guns are taken away, how difficult would it be to get another illegaly to "get even" with the neighbors or to go after the lady again?

Is it right to make her remain scared for her life? Lots of questions, no answers.

I don't know what the law is regarding that. It might make sense in some instances that the court could order him to stay away from guns. I believe that the order people who have been charged to stay away from alcohol.

[Sandtrap328]

I don't know what the law is regarding that. It might make sense in some instances that the court could order him to stay away from guns. I believe that the order people who have been charged to stay away from alcohol.

Jim,
Of course, the courts could order him not to drink. The court could order him not to touch a gun. How would it be enforced? No one would know until he is drunk or starts waving a gun around - and the lady has to live in constant fear until his trial happens in a few more years.

Just does not seem right but I don't know what could be done.

Any suggestions - and the lady getting a pistol is not a vald suggestion. No one should not have to be armed 24/7 in order to feel safe in The Villages.

[Chatbrat]

There are lots of DEAD people who thought they were protected by court orders

[graciegirl]

I wonder if he has dementia. He has no previous record of trouble. What a terrible mess for his family.

[RickeyD]

I wonder if he has dementia. He has no previous record of trouble. What a terrible mess for his family.



Wonder if that diagnosis would allow no jail time. [emoji848]

[graciegirl]

Wonder if that diagnosis would allow no jail time. [emoji848]

I don't know. I have no patience with most mental health pleas that I see on TV. I think that usually it is a lawyers way of shinnying out of responsibility for the perp.

Thank heavens no one was hurt, it could have been deadly for sure.

[rubicon]

5 Famous Temptresses of the Bible (http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/5-famous-temptresses-of-the-bible/)

RickeyD: Indeed. You know many human beings don't seem to "get a brain" until they reach 35 then again some never seem to reach that threshold ever.

Enjoyed reading about the biblical temptresses. I wonder how many battles or wars were lost because the generals were too preoccupied in their tents :D...not now commander in the morning in the morning

[JoMar]

Temptresses real or imagined have existed since the beginning of mankind. Add booze and an old fool to the equation and you have a recipe for disaster. This has nothing to do with guns. If he didn't have one he would have thrown rocks or something else through her window or it would have gone crashing through her door. Yes indeed he has destroyed a lot of lives with his foolishness.

Out of control libidos have been the bane of humankind in so many ways

So now we have labeled the neighbor and are placing some blame for this guys actions on her?

[rjm1cc]

How much closer does this have to get to home? A sig sauer 9 mm semi automatic with clips that held 15 and 20 shots each. Does he have the right to own it, yes. Should he own it NO.

Should she own a gun like this?

[Sandtrap328]

Should she own a gun like this?

As I said in an earlier post - No one should have to be armed 24/7 in order to feel safe in The Villages.

Let's take it one step further. Would she safe in The Villages - with that perp just a couple of houses away - even IF she was armed - and knowing his trial would be a long, long time away? Every sound at night around the house might send her in a panic. Very terrifying situation. I

[karostay]

Needs to be exterminated

[graciegirl]

So now we have labeled the neighbor and are placing some blame for this guys actions on her?

I surely hope that wasn't meant that way. That man probably is the reason she wasn't there at the time. If he returns to his home, who would want to live close by? I would want to be as far away from deranged behavior like that as possible.

[RickeyD]

I don't know. I have no patience with most mental health pleas that I see on TV. I think that usually it is a lawyers way of shinnying out of responsibility for the perp.



Thank heavens no one was hurt, it could have been deadly for sure.



Sad, sick, abnormal, confused, violent, sex. These words float around my mind in this very real occurrence.


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[manaboutown]

This guy is a psycho. If I were her I would move if he does not end up in prison...where he most assuredly belongs.

[RickeyD]

Needs to be exterminated



He's a human, not a cockroach.


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[Barefoot]

Sad, sick, abnormal, confused, violent, sex. These words float around my mind in this very real occurrence.
Also demented, irrational, deranged, and quite possibly mentally ill.
Come on, drunk or not, who empties their gun into the house of a woman because he has a crush on her?
It's not fair, but If I were that lady, I'd have a For Sale sign in my window.

[rubicon]

So now we have labeled the neighbor and are placing some blame for this guys actions on her?

In all due respect JoMar for some reason unknown to me you continue to add your confirmation bias to every one of my comments. Please re-read my comments again, if you are so inclined, and you will see that never once did I blame the victim.

The news today is so depressingly saturated that I ignore most of it and in this instance while I did address my opinion of this guy I tried to make it a little lighter to regain some sense of balance.

Personal Best Regards:

[maureenod]

Also demented, irrational, deranged, and quite possibly mentally ill.
Come on, drunk or not, who empties their gun into the house of a woman because he has a crush on her?
It's not fair, but If I were that lady, I'd have a For Sale sign in my window.


Would this qualify for a disclosure? He should have to sell so the neighborhood could feel safer. Who would buy anywhere near that nut. He may need to sell to pay legal costs.

[outlaw]

Jim,
Of course, the courts could order him not to drink. The court could order him not to touch a gun. How would it be enforced? No one would know until he is drunk or starts waving a gun around - and the lady has to live in constant fear until his trial happens in a few more years.

Just does not seem right but I don't know what could be done.

Any suggestions - and the lady getting a pistol is not a vald suggestion. No one should not have to be armed 24/7 in order to feel safe in The Villages.

Interesting that you think we need more gun control laws, yet when someone posts that the shooter could be ordered by the court to stay away from guns, you question how that would stop him? Now do you see why gun free zones are a joke? BTW, I believe it is against the law to discharge a firearm in TV. How did that work out? Sooner or later you are going to realize, you can live in fear without a gun, waiting for the predator with a gun, or you can recognize it is up to you to provide your own self defense.

[graciegirl]

In all due respect JoMar for some reason unknown to me you continue to add your confirmation bias to every one of my comments. Please re-read my comments again, if you are so inclined, and you will see that never once did I blame the victim.

The news today is so depressingly saturated that I ignore most of it and in this instance while I did address my opinion of this guy I tried to make it a little lighter to regain some sense of balance.

Personal Best Regards:

I understood your post, a long time ago I "got" that you are a kind and considered person.

When something like this issue comes up, something that we can't fix easily, we all seem to pick at each other. I got that you were trying to be light and I too was wondering about dementia. Not all things are social issues or political issues. Some things are just ....well unsolvable.

Probably the reason we have so many churches.

[graciegirl]

Humor and subtlety do not come through very well in print when the subject is horrifying.

Now that, my friend, needs to be remembered by us all.

[Paper1]

I hope the guy's wife has some kind of support in the community. She is probably having a very rough few days.

[RickeyD]

I hope the guy's wife has some kind of support in the community. She is probably having a very rough few days.



Some people are just so absolutely self centered with no regard for others, this guy is that poster child.


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[dbussone]

Jim,

Of course, the courts could order him not to drink. The court could order him not to touch a gun. How would it be enforced? No one would know until he is drunk or starts waving a gun around - and the lady has to live in constant fear until his trial happens in a few more years.



Just does not seem right but I don't know what could be done.



Any suggestions - and the lady getting a pistol is not a vald suggestion. No one should not have to be armed 24/7 in order to feel safe in The Villages.



The judge currently presiding over his case can instruct the sheriff to take and hold his guns until the case is settled.


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[PattyCakes]

Whether he is sentenced to prison or not, this lady should consider moving permanently. If you put yourself in her shoes, even though you know he's in prison, when you open your door every morning wouldn't you look next door, just to be safe? Wouldn't you always be on alert, wondering if today would be the day he got out? Life is too short to spend in anxiety and worry. She was physically unharmed THIS time. The second time might not end as well. She shouldn't give him another chance. And the wife? God bless her and I hope she has a good attorney.

[graciegirl]

Whether he is sentenced to prison or not, this lady should consider moving permanently. If you put yourself in her shoes, even though you know he's in prison, when you open your door every morning wouldn't you look next door, just to be safe? Wouldn't you always be on alert, wondering if today would be the day he got out? Life is too short to spend in anxiety and worry. She was physically unharmed THIS time. The second time might not end as well. She shouldn't give him another chance. And the wife? God bless her and I hope she has a good attorney.

But WHO would WANT to move into that house next to him?

[redwitch]

The victim should be notified of the date of his release, whether it is via bond or end of his sentence. If typical, he'll go before the judge say he is now in AA and therapy. He will probably get off with a slap on the wrist unless a previous history can be shown.

If the woman is typical, she will be looking at everyone very differently. She'll be afraid to make new friends. She'll be extremely cautious and downright paranoid whether he is in jail or not. She may well get a gun but it won't give her a lot of reassurance.

Sadly, the wife may very well stick with her husband. Unless his behavior was due to medication or dementia, this probably wasn't the first time he got a "crush" on someone. Also, he more than likely is an abuser and it is difficult for many women to walk from that, especially if the abuse is more psychological than physical. Her self-worth will be in the gutter.

[outlaw]

I wonder if the woman even knew he was dangerously obsessed with her, or, depending on her history with other men flirting with her, she saw him as just another flirtatious man whose "bark was bigger than his bite"? Not blaming her for any of this, but she may have been clueless to this guy's mental state, and even "accommodated" a little flirting as something an "old harmless senior" does frequently, and was just trying to get along with her neighbors. If she was a real attractive woman, she might have been so used to being flirted with that she just let it roll off of her.

[graciegirl]

I wonder if the woman even knew he was dangerously obsessed with her, or, depending on her history with other men flirting with her, she saw him as just another flirtatious man whose "bark was bigger than his bite"? Not blaming her for any of this, but she may have been clueless to this guy's mental state, and even "accommodated" a little flirting as something an "old harmless senior" does frequently, and was just trying to get along with her neighbors. If she was a real attractive woman, she might have been so used to being flirted with that she just let it roll off of her.

I don't know this woman, but I do know she is friends with six of my friends who are frequent posters on this forum. I haven't asked any of them about her but trust their good judgment about their choices. From her Facebook page she appears to be quite pleasant looking but in no way attempting to be attention getting. Not a femme fatale in any way and I mean that most kindly. Please don't blame her, she was probably just being friendly and kind as most people are. I wouldn't be surprised if she posted on this forum and I am sending hugs to her.

[Nucky]

But WHO would WANT to move into that house next to him?

By law would this event need to be exposed to a potential buyer before closing? Are there other disclosure laws in effect? I hope the victim stay's in her home and lives her life fearlessly.

[kstew43]

By law would this event need to be exposed to a potential buyer before closing? Are there other disclosure laws in effect? I hope the victim stay's in her home and lives her life fearlessly.

unless there was a murder......the need for disclosure is not necessary....

But when the new buyers talk to any of the neighbors.....thats another story....

[redwitch]

From what I've read, the victim was very uncomfortable around this man and did her best to avoid him. She was in no way at fault. Heck, even if she had slept with him, she was not at fault. Stalkers can develop a "meaningful relationship" with their victim by almost any actions of the victim. A simple hello can be interpreted as "I love you". A tweet about the weather becomes an invitation in the mind of the stalker. To even remotely blame the victim is, at best, patently unfair.

[NotGolfer]

I know this was brought up earlier in this thread but my reading of the article brought to mind that because this act was so bizarre--the guy may have some dementia issues going on. Behaviors change early on with this. The article gives so little information and we can just speculate all we want on why it happened. I do hope that the proper measures are being done with him so our community will be safe.

[outlaw]

I'm surprised the man wasn't charged with attempted murder, unless he told the police he knew no one was in the house. In that case, couldn't there have been a charge of terrorism (or something in that area) based on him going so far over the top (33 rounds into the house) as to cause terror to the victim? Is there such a thing like that?

[Barefoot]

From what I've read, the victim was very uncomfortable around this man and did her best to avoid him. She was in no way at fault. Heck, even if she had slept with him, she was not at fault. Stalkers can develop a "meaningful relationship" with their victim by almost any actions of the victim. A simple hello can be interpreted as "I love you". A tweet about the weather becomes an invitation in the mind of the stalker. To even remotely blame the victim is, at best, patently unfair.
Stalkers hear what they want to hear, not what is said.
I feel very sorry for this woman, caught up in some man's aberration.
There is nothing fair about the situation.
If I were her, I'd definitely be moving, to get some peace of mind.

[Chi-Town]

Interesting article featuring the shooter without mentioning The Villages:

Women Often Pay The Price" - When Male Entitlement Collides With Guns, Women Often Pay The Price (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/neighbor-sexual-advances-male-entitlement_us_576c4975e4b0dbb1bbb9fa5c?section=)

[Taltarzac725]

Interesting article featuring the shooter without mentioning The Villages:

Women Often Pay The Price" - When Male Entitlement Collides With Guns, Women Often Pay The Price (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/neighbor-sexual-advances-male-entitlement_us_576c4975e4b0dbb1bbb9fa5c?section=)

Thanks for that link.

Here is a resource that might be helpful for people-- VAWnet | The National Online Resource Center on Violence Against Women (http://www.vawnet.org/)

I had a stalker Gail P., as did my then live-in girlfriend Jennifer V., while I was on the reference desk at the University of Minnesota Law Library in 1989-1990 for about nine months. The University could not do much of anything to stop her. She was at the Law Library researching her defense in a stalking of a U of MN Mathematics Professor. She had chained herself to his desk to get his attention. She followed me home one day and I think that was enough for the University to put some controls on her.

I do know what this feels like though. I will say though that my then live-in girlfriend Jennifer fought like a tiger to get the U of MN to do something. She was a U of MN Law School Student Class of 1990.

[BritParrothead]

Saw this on Huffington Post this morning :(

[EnglishJW]

33 shots and only 3k in damages.........the front door cost $1800..................

In the overall scheme of things this is a minor issue but I had the same thought.

[graciegirl]

Interesting article featuring the shooter without mentioning The Villages:

Women Often Pay The Price" - When Male Entitlement Collides With Guns, Women Often Pay The Price (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/neighbor-sexual-advances-male-entitlement_us_576c4975e4b0dbb1bbb9fa5c?section=)

Here is an article that could be entitled. "Three unemployed young people who obtained guns illegally steal car from Mayor of Sanford by placing a gun in his mouth and his ear".
Florida Mayor Carjacked at Gunpoint Outside Home (http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/florida-mayor-carjacked-at-gunpoint-outside-home/ar-AAhCTmg?ocid=spartandhp)

[graciegirl]

Among quite a few people who live here, as there are in the general population.

Sheriff's office is watching them, but there is a limit to what can be done about folks who might at any time become a real danger rather than an aggravation.