Five Myths About Sharia Law.

[Taltarzac725]

Five myths about sharia - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/five-myths-about-sharia/2016/06/24/7e3efb7a-31ef-11e6-8758-d58e76e11b12_story.html)

I just wanted to put this out there. People should dig into research when you hear some pundit on one of the more biased news-entertainment stations spouting off on issues of the day.

Cannot say I understand all of what this Islamic scholar is trying to communicate but I will give it a try with a few more readings and more research.

Sharia Law has been coming up a lot in discussions I have heard here in the Villages especially with respect to the tragedy of the murder of 49 people in Orlando two weeks ago and the motives of the man who did this. His motives look quite complicated. Orlando nightclub shooting: Who is gunman Omar Mateen? - Orlando Sentinel (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/pulse-orlando-nightclub-shooting/os-omar-mateen-orlando-nightclub-shooting-story.html)

If you want to dig into Arab history and culture this looks like a good resource-- Resources for Arabic Litrature, Music and History (http://www.arabamerica.com/resources/)

As does this-- ADC |
Educational Resources (http://www.adc.org/education/educational-resources/)

http://www.adc.org/fileadmin/ADC/Educational_Resources/ArabContributionstocivilization.pdf

[graciegirl]

People want to believe that religions teach and practice similarly but that is not true.

Search (https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=bill%20maher%20on%20islamic)

[Taltarzac725]

He is correct here.

Asifa Quraishi-Landes does seem to know something about Sharia Law and Islam.

Many talking heads on television do not know much of anything about Sharia Law and do not even bother to Google anything about it. They just spread their fear, hatred and ignorance and which is often calculated to get ratings out of the group they are trying to sell condoms, cars, Viagra, and other stuff too.

[leftyf]

Regardless, we do not need sharia law in the USA. We have our own laws and don't need theirs.

[Taltarzac725]

Regardless, we do not need sharia law in the USA. We have our own laws and don't need theirs.

The only way Sharia Law will come here is if ISIS conquers us. That could happen but it would take a situation like that in The Last Ship where some form of plague or other kind of outbreak wipes out most of the population. And the ISIS population would have to have many more of the immune.

I cannot see Sharia Law coming here unless it is quite different than what most people understand it to be.

[graciegirl]

Regardless, we do not need sharia law in the USA. We have our own laws and don't need theirs.

Where is the like button?

[Taltarzac725]

Islamic Law: A Bibliography | Law Library of Congress (http://www.loc.gov/law/help/bibliography-islamic-law.php)

This might be of interest.

[leftyf]

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[HimandMe]

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[Fredster]

Regardless, we do not need sharia law in the USA. We have our own laws and don't need theirs.

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[Hancle704]

The only way Sharia Law will come here is if ISIS conquers us. That could happen but it would take a situation like that in The Last Ship where some form of plague or other kind of outbreak wipes out most of the population. And the ISIS population would have to have many more of the immune.

I cannot see Sharia Law coming here unless it is quite different than what most people understand it to be.

I think that in the past most groups who came to the US came to improve their situations and were willing to become Americans and over time assimilated into our culture. Today there are groups who have arrived and have chosen not to assimilate and become Americans. With a declining birth rate among most Americans and Western Europeans it is becoming evident that because Muslims have a higher birth rate in US and Western Europe, they could soon become a majority who would then institute Sharia Law.

[gap2415]

I was of the understanding that those who practice Sharia law do not need to obey the country they are in if that country sanctions Sharia law for them.

I also have been reading about Sufis, the mystical religion of some of the Moslems and how very different their views are to the hardliners. Mystics from all faith groups easily understand and have no problem relating to each other, something Jung taught us. It's too easy to lump everyone of one country together although ISIS has made us all hesitant....they lump westerners all together....at least those who have swallowed hate whole. Evolution takes such a long, long time in this one world we share.

[RickeyD]

If I'm not mistaken, the Amish will not defend our shores, Hassidic Jews won't either. Probably more groups I can't remember now. The children of Abraham are a very diverse lot. I was born and raised Roman Catholic, but now a strict atheist. To me religion is a very strange way of life and has brought more death to humankind then any virus or terrestrial event. The world is changing folks and there isn't a damn thing anyone can do to stop it. Either we all stand together or surely we're all gonna die together.


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[goodtimesintv]

See this 6-minute video with Ayaan Hirsi Ali and read her bio published by Harvard below.

2016 Ayaan Hirsi Ali Making It Clear About Islam - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib8r4-OhyRA)

Harvard University:

Ayaan Hirsi Ali was born in Mogadishu, Somalia in 1969. The daughter of a political opponent of the Somali dictatorship, Ayaan Hirsi Ali grew up in exile, moving from Saudi Arabia to Ethiopia then Kenya.

As a young child, she was subjected to female genital mutilation. As she grew up, she embraced Islam and strove to live as a devout Muslim. But she began to question aspects of her faith. One day, while listening to a sermon on the many ways women should be obedient to their husbands, she couldn't resist asking, "Must our husbands obey us too?"

In 1992 Ayaan was married off by her father to a distant cousin who lived in Canada. In order to escape this marriage, she fled to the Netherlands where she was given asylum, and in time citizenship. In her early years in Holland she worked in factories and as a maid. She quickly learned Dutch, however, and was able to study at the University of Leiden. Working as a translator for Somali immigrants, she saw at first hand the inconsistencies between liberal, Western society and tribal, Muslim cultures.

After earning her M.A. in political science, Ayaan worked as a researcher for the Wiardi Beckman Foundation in Amsterdam. She then served as an elected member of the Dutch parliament from 2003 to 2006. While in parliament, she focused on furthering the integration of non-Western immigrants into Dutch society, and on defending the rights of Muslim women. She campaigned to raise awareness of violence against women, including honor killings and female genital mutilation, practices that had followed the immigrants into Holland......

In 2004 Ayaan gained international attention following the murder of Theo van Gogh. Van Gogh had directed her short film Submission, a film about the oppression of women under Islam. The assassin, a radical Muslim, left a death threat for her pinned to Van Gogh's chest......" SEE Full Bio:

Ayaan Hirsi Ali - Harvard - Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs (http://belfercenter.ksg.harvard.edu/experts/2635/ayaan_hirsi_ali.html)

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[Carl in Tampa]

Where is the like button?


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[Carl in Tampa]

Well, I read the Washington Post article that tiptoed around the truth about Sharia Law.

The problem is that I've also seen the videos of Radical Islamics cutting off the heads of Christians simply because they are Christians, throwing a homosexual man off of a rooftop to his death simply because he was homosexual, and cutting off a man's hand for stealing.

This is not to mention the beheading of a woman for adultery, and the practice of female genital mutilation to suppress women's sexual urges to keep them subjugated.

The article makes the argument that nowhere in our country is Sharia Law practiced. Before I retired I investigated cases in my county where Moderate Muslims were terrified into submission to Sharia Law practices by threats of violence by Extremist Muslims.

It is real, and it is with us.

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[Miles42]

Our Country our laws. Their country their laws. Let them remain apart.

[ColdNoMore]

Sharia Law prescribes very similar penalties, for similar acts, as the Old Testament.

And no true Christian actually uses the Old Testament to judge, or recommend discipline, of other Americans or those of other faiths.

Oh wait.....

[rubicon]

One individual wrote to explain that he had emigrated from China. Now a citizen of the US was writing an explanation for a recent article addressing why Asian students attending American Universities were found to be cheating 4 times more than other students. He reasoned that communist replaced religion in his country with secularism because before that honor respect, honesty were some of the byproduct of their religions

I believe we are seeing that in this nation where big government is taking control of our lives as it shifts us to rule by man vis a vis rule of law, laws granted us by God.

Sharia Law is rule of man disguised and evil in its intent and application

There is a difference in a real religious leader vis a vis an imposter who would use religion for his/her personal gain, revenge, etc. Religion/spirituality are essential for the human soul without it there is a deep emptiness and no real purpose to our lives. Can you think of any world leader past or present that could stand up against God? I prefer to place my hands in God

[outlaw]

If I'm not mistaken, the Amish will not defend our shores, Hassidic Jews won't either. Probably more groups I can't remember now. The children of Abraham are a very diverse lot. I was born and raised Roman Catholic, but now a strict atheist. To me religion is a very strange way of life and has brought more death to humankind then any virus or terrestrial event. The world is changing folks and there isn't a damn thing anyone can do to stop it. Either we all stand together or surely we're all gonna die together.


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I think you are exaggerating a wee bit. Bubonic plague alone killed 75-200 million. The 1918 influenza pandemic killed 50 million. The Crusades, Spanish Inquisition and witch burning totaled less than 300,000. Atheistic communism is estimated to have upwards of 110 million related deaths.

[outlaw]

According to Sharia law:

• Theft is punishable by amputation of the right hand (see below).
• Criticizing or denying any part of the Quran is punishable by death.
• Criticizing Muhammad or denying that he is a prophet is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Allah, the god of Islam is punishable by death.
• A Muslim who becomes a non-Muslim is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim who leads a Muslim away from Islam is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim man who marries a Muslim woman is punishable by death.
• A man can marry an infant girl and consummate the marriage when she is 9 years old.
• Girls' clitoris should be cut (Muhammad's words, Book 41, Kitab Al-Adab, Hadith 5251).
• A woman can have 1 husband, who can have up to 4 wives; Muhammad can have more.
• A man can beat his wife for insubordination.
• A man can unilaterally divorce his wife; a woman needs her husband's consent to divorce.
• A divorced wife loses custody of all children over 6 years of age or when they exceed it.
• Testimonies of four male witnesses are required to prove rape against a woman.
• A woman who has been raped cannot testify in court against her rapist(s).
• A woman's testimony in court, allowed in property cases, carries ½ the weight of a man's.
• A female heir inherits half of what a male heir inherits.
• A woman cannot drive a car, as it leads to fitnah (upheaval).
• A woman cannot speak alone to a man who is not her husband or relative.
• Meat to eat must come from animals that have been sacrificed to Allah - i.e., be "Halal".
• Muslims should engage in Taqiyya and lie to non-Muslims to advance Islam.

Seems reasonable.

[HimandMe]

The fundamentalist sect of many religions have a bad tract record but in any group, church, gathering even fundamentalists you have various levels from he severest to the enlightened and most lovingly spiritual. When they violent basic human rights, they area danger to us all, even in their country. Ideas spread as we well know. We need to educate ourselves to see the difference in people and individuals and learn realist ally how to view, understand and deal appropriately with this differently than ages past. My background is in the social sciences and spirituality. I'm now reading Atman by Wilber, so insightful, it will help.

[goodtimesintv]

The fundamentalist sect of many religions have a bad tract record but in any group, church, gathering even fundamentalists you have various levels from he severest to the enlightened and most lovingly spiritual. When they violent basic human rights, they area danger to us all, even in their country. Ideas spread as we well know. We need to educate ourselves to see the difference in people and individuals and learn realist ally how to view, understand and deal appropriately with this differently than ages past. My background is in the social sciences and spirituality. I'm now reading Atman by Wilber, so insightful, it will help.

Make excuses for, and minimize by blending in, the bloodthirsty islamic jihadists who throw homosexuals off rooftops for the bloodthirsty audience below mock and laugh at and then to kick to death. But even the heinous cult amongst Christians--Westboro Baptist--doesn't do massacres and bloodbaths. Their raucous, verbal venom doesn't even come close, and plenty of audiences at funerals surround these devils to block them from tormenting the survivors.

CNN Documentary: ISIS throws gay men off buildings

ISIS throws gay men off buildings - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr7d1sTDNts)

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[Carl in Tampa]

If I'm not mistaken, the Amish will not defend our shores, Hassidic Jews won't either. Probably more groups I can't remember now. The children of Abraham are a very diverse lot. I was born and raised Roman Catholic, but now a strict atheist. To me religion is a very strange way of life and has brought more death to humankind then any virus or terrestrial event. The world is changing folks and there isn't a damn thing anyone can do to stop it. Either we all stand together or surely we're all gonna die together.


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Interestingly, as Islam originally spread across North Africa, both Christians and Jews were permitted to continue their religious practices as long as they paid a tax to their conquerors.

Atheists, however, were killed. There is no indication that they fare better under ISIS Radical Muslims.

:wave:

[Taltarzac725]

4 ways ISIS grounds its actions in religion, and why it should matter (COMMENTARY) | Religion News Service (http://religionnews.com/2015/11/16/4-ways-isis-grounds-actions-religion-matter-commentary/)

This is interesting.

[goodtimesintv]

"Mateen reportedly called 911 shortly before the shooting and swore allegiance to the leader of ISIS, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.

Mateen shows the twisted religious training of ISIS supporters, who believe that God supports their burning 19 girls alive when they refuse to be sex slaves or, in this case, massacring innocent people at a nightclub. They are told that God celebrates such atrocities as fulfillment of Islamic values....."

Orlando Killer Identified As Muslim Extremist Who Pledged Allegiance To ISIS | JONATHAN TURLEY (https://jonathanturley.org/2016/06/12/orlando-killer-identifies-as-muslim-extremist-who-pledged-allegiance-to-isis/)

[RickeyD]

I think you are exaggerating a wee bit. Bubonic plague alone killed 75-200 million. The 1918 influenza pandemic killed 50 million. The Crusades, Spanish Inquisition and witch burning totaled less than 300,000. Atheistic communism is estimated to have upwards of 110 million related deaths.



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[outlaw]

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