a few bwords about trump

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You can't fix stupid.

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You can't fix stupid.

No, no you can't, so you probably shouldn't throw stones when you live in a glass house.

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You can't fix stupid.

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You can't fix stupid.

No, but your parents have no doubt tried.

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bigot
billionaire
birther
bull****ter
biased
bully
balding
Anybody else got any?

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bigot
billionaire
birther
bull****ter
biased
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Anybody else got any?

blowhard

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BETTER than the alternative......Killary.

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What is/are the redeeming quality(s), the intellectual goal or the benefit to members of Political Talk for a thread such as this. What purpose does it serve? For whom? And why would a poster show himself/herself to appear to be lacking the ability to construct a logical and persuasive position on the selected subject? What sort of person enjoys continually shooting themselves in the foot? And why would a person feel so entitled so above everyone else to use the phrase "you can't fix stupid" Indeed society has more than once labeled genius as stupid and felt stupid in the end for not recognizing the genius and the fortunate and celebrity that followed it.

He who laughs last laughs best

Personal Best Regards:

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This proverb originated in Tudor England but, for once, wasn't coined by Shakespeare. It is found in print in the play Christmas Prince, which was first performed, at Cambridge, around 1608:

Laugh on laugh on my freind
Hee laugheth best that laugheth to the end

ball breaker [does that count?]

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[QUOTE=Guest;1246206]What is/are the redeeming quality(s), the intellectual goal or the benefit to members of Political Talk for a thread such as this. What purpose does it serve? For whom? And why would a poster show himself/herself to appear to be lacking the ability to construct a logical and persuasive position on the selected subject? What sort of person enjoys continually shooting themselves in the foot? And why would a person feel so entitled so above everyone else to use the phrase "you can't fix stupid" Indeed society has more than once labeled genius as stupid and felt stupid in the end for not recognizing the genius and the fortunate and celebrity that followed it.

He who laughs last laughs best

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So you think your anointed, trump, is a genius. Pathetic

"He who laughs last laughs best" I will be posting this the day after Hillary is elected.

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You can't fix stupid.

Then WHY do we continue affirmative action, quotas, welfare, no child left behind, and other programs? We can't "fix them", so why bother?

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billionaire
birther
bull****ter
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Anybody else got any?

liar
narcissus

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a few bwords about trump?

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Better go get yourself educated by an 8 year old that can teach you the alphabet, dude.

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Better go get yourself educated by an 8 year old that can teach you the alphabet, dude.
you say dude, very intelligent. LOL

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you say dude, very intelligent. LOL

You didn't get it?

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Then WHY do we continue affirmative action, quotas, welfare, no child left behind, and other programs? We can't "fix them", so why bother?

Because the majority of the people in this country care about the ones that are not as fortunate. People like you are "all for me and to hell with everybody else" until they need help. Then they come crawling.

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Because the majority of the people in this country care about the ones that are not as fortunate. People like you are "all for me and to hell with everybody else" until they need help. Then they come crawling.

No...I'm tired of throwing good money after bad, I'm tired of the perpetual welfare, crime, and the destruction of our social fabric trying to help "people" who will NEVER amount to anything other than an inmate.

I don't mind "helping" what I DO mind is total support for almost an entire race...2 races...blacks and hispanics. It's time to face the facts that "equality" is a myth.

As their numbers have risen...our rankings have fallen. Time to cut our losses and go back to the way it was before the "civil rights" bullsh!t of the 60s. Time to go back to "only the best need apply"..."only the best get in". Yes, it's "racist", but it's what's best for the nation and it's people...the PRODUCTIVE people.

Time to cut loose the losers. We can't afford to keep dragging them and their spawn along, there are TOO MANY of them now. THEY are becoming the majority. THAT is what needs to be stopped.

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Give the losers the "red pill" and be done with them, if they refuse to be productive.

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Trump is the only logical choice we have. All Hillary can say is "I was never convicted of that".

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Trump is the only logical choice we have. All Hillary can say is "I was never convicted of that".

Or, "I never transmitted or received any emails MARKED classified." And even that was a lie, that has been proven.

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Trump is the only logical choice we have. All Hillary can say is "I was never convicted of that".
Finally, someone who understand you have to be convicted to be a felon. That only took a week.

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Finally, someone who understand you have to be convicted to be a felon. That only took a week.

You definitely have a mental problem that you should have checked out before you strain yourself while attempting to think in public.

Hillary is a criminal, that has not yet been convicted. You are hung up on the fact that she has committed felonies, but has not yet been convicted, therefore according to you, she has done no wrong. I could easily get a conviction, just based on what I know as a former Dept of State employee and what has been posted on the Internet of her emails that have been released. She is also being investigated by the IRS for tax fraud. Whether she is guilty of that or not, is up to the IRS. She is also a liar, and you don't have to be convicted of lying to be called a liar. Anyone that commits a crime is a criminal, regardless of conviction. If convicted, you become a "convict" or a convicted criminal. If that crime is a felony, you are a felon regardless of conviction. If you are convicted, you are a "convict" or a convicted felon.

So, please don't hurt yourself with worrying over how Hillary is going to dress for the next four years. She will likely get out of this one, just like all the other felonies the Clintons have gotten away with. By the way, she committed a felony grand larceny when she stole from the White House. They settled by paying restitution, but that is an admission of guilt. She is guilty, therefore even by your definition, she is a felon.

I'll bet you a dollar to a donut that she gets off of this and gets elected. I will also bet you that the first outfit she wears in the White House will be orange, like in prison jumpsuit orange, just to be nasty and rub it in that she escaped prosecution.

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You definitely have a mental problem that you should have checked out before you strain yourself while attempting to think in public.

Hillary is a criminal, that has not yet been convicted. You are hung up on the fact that she has committed felonies, but has not yet been convicted, therefore according to you, she has done no wrong. I could easily get a conviction, just based on what I know as a former Dept of State employee and what has been posted on the Internet of her emails that have been released. She is also being investigated by the IRS for tax fraud. Whether she is guilty of that or not, is up to the IRS. She is also a liar, and you don't have to be convicted of lying to be called a liar. Anyone that commits a crime is a criminal, regardless of conviction. If convicted, you become a "convict" or a convicted criminal. If that crime is a felony, you are a felon regardless of conviction. If you are convicted, you are a "convict" or a convicted felon.

So, please don't hurt yourself with worrying over how Hillary is going to dress for the next four years. She will likely get out of this one, just like all the other felonies the Clintons have gotten away with. By the way, she committed a felony grand larceny when she stole from the White House. They settled by paying restitution, but that is an admission of guilt. She is guilty, therefore even by your definition, she is a felon.

I'll bet you a dollar to a donut that she gets off of this and gets elected. I will also bet you that the first outfit she wears in the White House will be orange, like in prison jumpsuit orange, just to be nasty and rub it in that she escaped prosecution.

How it will happen, I do not know but one way or the other the FBI will get out of deciding the election by having Hillary arrested for her CRIMES. This is like reading a mystery and a friend has told you the end. SORRY TO RUIN THIS CRAPPY NOVEL FOR YOU.

Is America too big to fail? Every country that has failed thought so. Obama with his TEN TRILLION DOLLAR OVERDRAFT has brought us closer to the edge. WE HAVE BEEN PLAYING WITH FIRE IN AN AMMO DEPO.

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Finally, someone who understand you have to be convicted to be a felon. That only took a week.

I'm still working on them with the more abstract principles. Some may never get it...

You definitely have a mental problem that you should have checked out before you strain yourself while attempting to think in public.

Hillary is a criminal, that has not yet been convicted. You are hung up on the fact that she has committed felonies, but has not yet been convicted, therefore according to you, she has done no wrong. I could easily get a conviction, just based on what I know as a former Dept of State employee and what has been posted on the Internet of her emails that have been released. She is also being investigated by the IRS for tax fraud. Whether she is guilty of that or not, is up to the IRS. She is also a liar, and you don't have to be convicted of lying to be called a liar. Anyone that commits a crime is a criminal, regardless of conviction. If convicted, you become a "convict" or a convicted criminal. If that crime is a felony, you are a felon regardless of conviction. If you are convicted, you are a "convict" or a convicted felon.

So, please don't hurt yourself with worrying over how Hillary is going to dress for the next four years. She will likely get out of this one, just like all the other felonies the Clintons have gotten away with. By the way, she committed a felony grand larceny when she stole from the White House. They settled by paying restitution, but that is an admission of guilt. She is guilty, therefore even by your definition, she is a felon.

I'll bet you a dollar to a donut that she gets off of this and gets elected. I will also bet you that the first outfit she wears in the White House will be orange, like in prison jumpsuit orange, just to be nasty and rub it in that she escaped prosecution.

What you're doing is calling a dog neutered BEFORE they cut off his balls. She may have done it, but UNTIL she's convicted by a judge, she's NOT a felon. She's "allegedly" committed felonies, but until a judge says...GUILTY...she's an "accused felon".

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I'm still working on them with the more abstract principles. Some may never get it...



What you're doing is calling a dog neutered BEFORE they cut off his balls. She may have done it, but UNTIL she's convicted by a judge, she's NOT a felon. She's "allegedly" committed felonies, but until a judge says...GUILTY...she's an "accused felon".That was a great analogy.

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Hillary is a FELONIOUS SCUMBAG

fe·lo·ni·ous
adjective
adjective: felonious

of, relating to, or involved in crime.
relating to or of the nature of felony.

No conviction necessary to use that adjective. Anyone that insists that Hillary is not guilty until some official deems her guilty is just as much a fool as the liberal media, Hollywood and politicians.

The whole Clinton clan are criminals and scumbags, whether you wish a judge to decide it for you or not. You see, not all of us need the government to make decisions for us, or care for us. The only thing the gov is responsible for by Constitutional charter is our national security. If you can't live with that, then you are a very weak individual and it is a shame that your liberal momma did not have legalized abortion available when you were conceived.

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Hillary is a FELONIOUS SCUMBAG

fe·lo·ni·ous
adjective
adjective: felonious

of, relating to, or involved in crime.
relating to or of the nature of felony.

No conviction necessary to use that adjective. Anyone that insists that Hillary is not guilty until some official deems her guilty is just as much a fool as the liberal media, Hollywood and politicians.

The whole Clinton clan are criminals and scumbags, whether you wish a judge to decide it for you or not. You see, not all of us need the government to make decisions for us, or care for us. The only thing the gov is responsible for by Constitutional charter is our national security. If you can't live with that, then you are a very weak individual and it is a shame that your liberal momma did not have legalized abortion available when you were conceived.

Well then we're all fools because that's the law. YOU don't decide if they're guilty..."some official" does...a judge does. They MAY be guilty but they're not NAMED a felon or sent to jail until "some official" says so. Many people are walking free who "performed felonious acts" who aren't "felons" because they were never caught/tried.

I read the average American commits 3 felonies a day because we inadvertently break laws we don't know exist. So, in your book, we're ALL felons.

3 felonies a day - Google Search (https://www.google.com/search?q=3+felonies+a+day&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8)

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Well then we're all fools because that's the law. YOU don't decide if they're guilty..."some official" does...a judge does. They MAY be guilty but they're not NAMED a felon or sent to jail until "some official" says so. Many people are walking free who "performed felonious acts" who aren't "felons" because they were never caught/tried.

I read the average American commits 3 felonies a day because we inadvertently break laws we don't know exist. So, in your book, we're ALL felons.

3 felonies a day - Google Search (https://www.google.com/search?q=3+felonies+a+day&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8)

Guess I am not average, because that does not pertain to me. According to you, how can someone commit three felonies a day, if they haven't been convicted? Guess you just verified the statement that you can be a felon without being convicted.

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Guess I am not average, because that does not pertain to me. According to you, how can someone commit three felonies a day, if they haven't been convicted? Guess you just verified the statement that you can be a felon without being convicted.

Are you a woman? In my experience, only a woman can twist logic so badly...

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What 3 felonies are committed each day by the average person?
Three Felonies A Day: How the Feds Target the Innocent: Harvey Silverglate, Alan M. Dershowitz: 9781594035227: Amazon.com: Books (https://www.amazon.com/Three-Felonies-Day-Target-Innocent/dp/1594035229)

Did anyone read the book? I can't find the answer on line.

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Are you a woman? In my experience, only a woman can twist logic so badly...

Are you an idiot, because in my experience, only an idiot speaks out his @ss. :a20:

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Well then we're all fools because that's the law. YOU don't decide if they're guilty..."some official" does...a judge does. They MAY be guilty but they're not NAMED a felon or sent to jail until "some official" says so. Many people are walking free who "performed felonious acts" who aren't "felons" because they were never caught/tried.

I read the average American commits 3 felonies a day because we inadvertently break laws we don't know exist. So, in your book, we're ALL felons.

3 felonies a day - Google Search (https://www.google.com/search?q=3+felonies+a+day&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8)

So, according to you one cannot be a felon unless convicted. According to the book you quote the average American commits three felonies per day. So, according to you, the average American is convicted of three felonies a day. Does that sound logical to you?

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So, according to you one cannot be a felon unless convicted. According to the book you quote the average American commits three felonies per day. So, according to you, the average American is convicted of three felonies a day. Does that sound logical to you?I didn't write the title of the book.

West's encyclopedia of American law
felon
n. a person who has been convicted of a felony, which is a crime punishable by death or a term in state or federal prison.

I didn't write the title of that book either.

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I didn't write the title of the book.

West's encyclopedia of American law
felon
n. a person who has been convicted of a felony, which is a crime punishable by death or a term in state or federal prison.

I didn't write the title of that book either.The above was the answer to a question meant for someone else.

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Are you an idiot, because in my experience, only an idiot speaks out his @ss. :a20:

I cite facts...sorry if you don't accept them.

So, according to you one cannot be a felon unless convicted. According to the book you quote the average American commits three felonies per day. So, according to you, the average American is convicted of three felonies a day. Does that sound logical to you?

Yes, you are a felon once you are CONVICTED. You can commit "felonies", but you are NOT a felon until the judge says...guilty. Just like you can finish school to be a doctor or a lawyer, but you can't call yourself one until the "board" says you are.

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I cite facts...sorry if you don't accept them.



Yes, you are a felon once you are CONVICTED. You can commit "felonies", but you are NOT a felon until the judge says...guilty. Just like you can finish school to be a doctor or a lawyer, but you can't call yourself one until the "board" says you are.
Another great analogy, thank-you

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OK, by popular liberal demand for PC, Hillary is not just a felon. She is an un-convicted as yet, felonious criminal scumbag, that is also a pathological liar and cheats on her taxes. The best thing that could happen for America is if Killary would have a stroke, collapse to the ground and never get back up. But, that's just my opinion.

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OK, by popular liberal demand for PC, Hillary is not just a felon.
By definition she is not a felon at all.

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By definition she is not a felon at all.

A person that commits a felony is considered a felon. Hillary purposely violated federal law regarding the handling of classified information, a felony.

The Clintons committed grand larceny, a felony by stealing gov property from the White House when they left. They admitted to it when they paid back thousands of dollars in restitution.

Yes, Hillary is a felon even if it embarrasses the liberals to admit it.

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Are you an idiot, because in my experience, only an idiot speaks out his @ss. :a20:How does that work?

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A person that commits a felony is considered a felon. Hillary purposely violated federal law regarding the handling of classified information, a felony.

The Clintons committed grand larceny, a felony by stealing gov property from the White House when they left. They admitted to it when they paid back thousands of dollars in restitution.

Yes, Hillary is a felon even if it embarrasses the liberals to admit it.You need to be convicted. Unless we all agree that words mean what you want to them to mean. It's like calling a bogey a Village Par.

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You need to be convicted. Unless we all agree that words mean what you want to them to mean. It's like calling a bogey a Village Par.

Not true, and your analogy is totally apples and oranges.

But, she IS a felon. The Clintons committed a felony, grand larceny when they stole from the white house. They admitted their guilt by paying restitution. Therefore, they ARE felons.

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Not true, and your analogy is totally apples and oranges.

But, she IS a felon. The Clintons committed a felony, grand larceny when they stole from the white house. They admitted their guilt by paying restitution. Therefore, they ARE felons.If ignorance is bliss, you got it made.

Once again,
According to top ethics lawyers, it’s at least debatable -- and at worst hyperbolic -- to say the Clintons "stole" the items. A congressional investigation found poor tracking of ownership and final disposition of gifts, which makes it hard to speak definitively of wrongdoing. In fact, two items the Clintons returned were ultimately sent back to them. Finally, it’s worth making clear that the "force" they responded to was political pressure, not legal jeopardy.

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If ignorance is bliss, you got it made.

Once again,
According to top ethics lawyers, it’s at least debatable -- and at worst hyperbolic -- to say the Clintons "stole" the items. A congressional investigation found poor tracking of ownership and final disposition of gifts, which makes it hard to speak definitively of wrongdoing. In fact, two items the Clintons returned were ultimately sent back to them. Finally, it’s worth making clear that the "force" they responded to was political pressure, not legal jeopardy.

The paid back thousands of bucks because even though they claimed to be "dirt poor" when they left the White House, their good nature "donated" the money to pay for the thousands of dollars worth of gov property they STOLE. :a20:..:a20:

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Even Al Capone was only convicted of tax evasion!

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If ignorance is bliss, you got it made.

Once again,
According to top ethics lawyers, it’s at least debatable -- and at worst hyperbolic -- to say the Clintons "stole" the items. A congressional investigation found poor tracking of ownership and final disposition of gifts, which makes it hard to speak definitively of wrongdoing. In fact, two items the Clintons returned were ultimately sent back to them. Finally, it’s worth making clear that the "force" they responded to was political pressure, not legal jeopardy.
Top ethics lawyers. Where did you find them? Perhaps in the dictionary under oxymoron.

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Top ethics lawyers. Where did you find them? Perhaps in the dictionary under oxymoron.

:thumbup:

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Not true, and your analogy is totally apples and oranges.

But, she IS a felon. The Clintons committed a felony, grand larceny when they stole from the white house. They admitted their guilt by paying restitution. Therefore, they ARE felons.

Aha! The poster has a Law Degree from Trump University!! :a20:

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The Clinton Furniture Flap (http://www.factcheck.org/2016/05/the-clinton-furniture-flap/)

"In any case, the $28,000 worth of furniture the Clintons took with them upon leaving the White House was returned in February 2001, according to the National Park Service."

"Jim McDaniel, a National Park Service spokesman, said the items returned were indeed property of the federal government. So it is possible that the Clintons would have been forced to return them, if they did not do so voluntarily."

"In the end, the Clintons returned or paid for most the items that they took from the White House, although they were able to keep two items that they had returned."

"The gifts included $7,375 for tables and chairs from Denise Rich, a prominent Democratic fundraiser and the ex-wife of a fugitive financier, Marc Rich, who was pardoned by Clinton on the president’s last day in office. Former President Jimmy Carter called the Rich pardon “disgraceful,” saying “some of the factors in his pardon were attributable to his large gifts.”"

"Prior to returning those gifts, the Clintons also agreed to pay for $86,000 worth of other items that they received in their last year in office."

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Aha! The poster has a Law Degree from Trump University!! :a20:

Probably better than your diploma from Hillary's school for clowns.

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Not true, and your analogy is totally apples and oranges.

But, she IS a felon. The Clintons committed a felony, grand larceny when they stole from the white house. They admitted their guilt by paying restitution. Therefore, they ARE felons.


An amusing sidebar to this whole stolen furniture story is that Hillary Clinton will be the one inconvenienced when she moves back into the White House and has less furniture to choose from.

Who would want these 25 year old drapes anyway, and who is still talking about this last century story? Nobody cares.

What the poster seems to be saying is anybody can be a felon if another person says you are a felon, but to be a convicted felon, one must be convicted by a representative of the courts, not Fox News.

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The Clinton Furniture Flap (http://www.factcheck.org/2016/05/the-clinton-furniture-flap/)

"In any case, the $28,000 worth of furniture the Clintons took with them upon leaving the White House was returned in February 2001, according to the National Park Service."

"Jim McDaniel, a National Park Service spokesman, said the items returned were indeed property of the federal government. So it is possible that the Clintons would have been forced to return them, if they did not do so voluntarily."

"In the end, the Clintons returned or paid for most the items that they took from the White House, although they were able to keep two items that they had returned."h

"The gifts included $7,375 for tables and chairs from Denise Rich, a prominent Democratic fundraiser and the ex-wife of a fugitive financier, Marc Rich, who was pardoned by Clinton on the president’s last day in office. Former President Jimmy Carter called the Rich pardon “disgraceful,” saying “some of the factors in his pardon were attributable to his large gifts.”"

"Prior to returning those gifts, the Clintons also agreed to pay for $86,000 worth of other items that they received in their last year in office."Good information, great whining. Were they convicted? Did they admit guilt?

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The paid back thousands of bucks because even though they claimed to be "dirt poor" when they left the White House, their good nature "donated" the money to pay for the thousands of dollars worth of gov property they STOLE. :a20:..:a20:Good information, great whining. Were they convicted? Did they admit guilt?

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Even Al Capone was only convicted of tax evasion!Good information, great whining. Were the Clintons convicted? Did they admit guilt?

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Good information, great whining. Were the Clintons convicted? Did they admit guilt?

President Clinton escaped indictment by surrendering his Arkansas law license for five years and admitting that he made false statements under oath about his affair with Monica Lewinsky.

Someone who lies under oath in federal court, or who lies under oath to a person acting on behalf of the federal government may be sentenced to up to five years in jail.

1. Did Bill Clinton admit guilt to lying under oath? Yes

2. Is lying under oath in federal court, or to a person acting on behalf of the federal government a felony (a crime punishable by more than one year of confinement)? Yes

3. By YOUR definition is Bill Clinton a felon? YES

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How it will happen, I do not know but one way or the other the FBI will get out of deciding the election by having Hillary arrested for her CRIMES. This is like reading a mystery and a friend has told you the end. SORRY TO RUIN THIS CRAPPY NOVEL FOR YOU.

Is America too big to fail? Every country that has failed thought so. Obama with his TEN TRILLION DOLLAR OVERDRAFT has brought us closer to the edge. WE HAVE BEEN PLAYING WITH FIRE IN AN AMMO DEPO.

So now the FBI is crooked. :a20:

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Probably better than your diploma from Hillary's school for clowns.

Nice picture of your wife!

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President Clinton escaped indictment by surrendering his Arkansas law license for five years and admitting that he made false statements under oath about his affair with Monica Lewinsky.

Someone who lies under oath in federal court, or who lies under oath to a person acting on behalf of the federal government may be sentenced to up to five years in jail.

1. Did Bill Clinton admit guilt to lying under oath? Yes

2. Is lying under oath in federal court, or to a person acting on behalf of the federal government a felony (a crime punishable by more than one year of confinement)? Yes

3. By YOUR definition is Bill Clinton a felon? YES


Did Bill Clinton serve five years in jail? No
Did Bill Clinton serve one year in jail? No
Is Bill Clinton running for office? No

Did Bill Clinton leave office with an approval rating in the high 60%'s? Yes

As Hillary Clinton once said "What difference does it make"?

Bill Clinton is one of the most beloved and influential democrats of the past 25 years and most of the republicans that served on the impeachment committee lost their seats or were otherwise forced to resign, including Speaker Gingrich.

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Did Bill Clinton serve five years in jail? No
Did Bill Clinton serve one year in jail? No
Is Bill Clinton running for office? No

Did Bill Clinton leave office with an approval rating in the high 60%'s? Yes

As Hillary Clinton once said "What difference does it make"?

Bill Clinton is one of the most beloved and influential democrats of the past 25 years and most of the republicans that served on the impeachment committee lost their seats or were otherwise forced to resign, including Speaker Gingrich.

You post as if stupidity were a virtue. Why is that?

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You post as if stupidity were a virtue. Why is that?

You just proved it is!

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You just proved it is!

Yes, you did.

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President Clinton escaped indictment by surrendering his Arkansas law license for five years and admitting that he made false statements under oath about his affair with Monica Lewinsky.

Someone who lies under oath in federal court, or who lies under oath to a person acting on behalf of the federal government may be sentenced to up to five years in jail.

1. Did Bill Clinton admit guilt to lying under oath? Yes

2. Is lying under oath in federal court, or to a person acting on behalf of the federal government a felony (a crime punishable by more than one year of confinement)? Yes

3. By YOUR definition is Bill Clinton a felon? YES
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I don't define words. I cut and pasted from a Law Book.

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There is more then one of us answering your post.

Third
In fact, the Senate acquitted Clinton. In order for a lie under oath to amount to perjury -- as Senator Daniel Akaka (D-HI) explained on the floor of the Senate on February 12, 1999 -- it must be "material" to the underlying case. U.S. District Judge Susan Webber Wright ruled that Clinton's deposition in the Monica Lewinsky case was immaterial to the sexual harassment suit that Paula Jones brought against Clinton. As a judge, Napolitano almost certainly knows that as a legal matter, Clinton is not guilty of a felony.

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I don't define words. I cut and pasted from a Law Book.

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There is more then one of us answering your post.

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In fact, the Senate acquitted Clinton. In order for a lie under oath to amount to perjury -- as Senator Daniel Akaka (D-HI) explained on the floor of the Senate on February 12, 1999 -- it must be "material" to the underlying case. U.S. District Judge Susan Webber Wright ruled that Clinton's deposition in the Monica Lewinsky case was immaterial to the sexual harassment suit that Paula Jones brought against Clinton. As a judge, Napolitano almost certainly knows that as a legal matter, Clinton is not guilty of a felony.

Why, do you think Bill Clinton agreed to surrender his law license for five years. Perhaps it was a goodwill gesture?

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You post as if stupidity were a virtue. Why is that?

When you can't argue with the facts, call people stupid. Good plan.

Another fun fact about the whole Bill Clinton saga is the only one sitting in jail is former Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert (R-IL).

He was the guy called in to clean up the whole Clinton impeachment debacle. Hastert is the longest serving speaker in US history, but it seems he couldn't keep his hands off the young boys.

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Spin it any way you like, Bill Clinton is a felon. The only reason Bill Clinton was not found guilty of a felony was because of a plea bargain entered to avoid his prosecution.

Source: Wikipedia (Clinton vs Jones)
"As a consequence of his conduct in the Jones v. Clinton civil suit and before the federal grand jury, President Clinton incurred significant administrative sanctions.

The Independent Counsel considered seven non-criminal alternative sanctions that were imposed in making his decision to decline prosecution:

(1) President Clinton’s admission of providing false testimony that was knowingly misleading, evasive, and prejudicial to the administration of justice before the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Arkansas;

(2) his acknowledgement that his conduct violated the Rules of Professional Conduct of the Arkansas Supreme Court;

(3) the five-year suspension of his license to practice law and $25,000 fine imposed on him by the Circuit Court of Pulaski County, Arkansas;

(4) the civil contempt penalty of more than $900,000 imposed on President Clinton by the federal court for violating its orders;

(5) the payment of more than $850,000 in settlement to Paula Jones;

(6) the express finding by the federal court that President Clinton had engaged in contemptuous conduct; and (7) the substantial public condemnation of President Clinton arising from his impeachment."

These seven sanctions, Ray reasoned, were "sufficient", and therefore he did not pursue further sanctions in a criminal proceeding.[2]"

An innocent man (Bill Clinton) would not have agreed to the above seven sanctions had he not been guilty.

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When you can't argue with the facts, call people stupid. Good plan.

Another fun fact about the whole Bill Clinton saga is the only one sitting in jail is former Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert (R-IL).

He was the guy called in to clean up the whole Clinton impeachment debacle. Hastert is the longest serving speaker in US history, but it seems he couldn't keep his hands off the young boys.

What "facts" are you referring to?

[Guest]

Why, do you think Bill Clinton agreed to surrender his law license for five years. Perhaps it was a goodwill gesture?I don't know why and don't feel like looking it up. I thought this was about whether or not by legal definition, he is a felon.

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I don't know why and don't feel like looking it up. I thought this was about whether or not by legal definition, he is a felon.

Results of Google search for: "Legal Definition of a Felon"

Felon legal definition of felon - Legal Dictionary - The Free Dictionary
legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/felon
Felon. An individual who commits a crime of a serious nature, such as Burglary or murder. A person who commits a felony. West's Encyclopedia of American .

Felony legal definition of felony - Legal Dictionary - The Free Dictionary
legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/felony
Felony. A serious crime, characterized under federal law and many state statutes as any offense punishable by death or imprisonment in excess of one year.

With reference to the above definitions, Bill Clinton is a Felon.

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Results of Google search for: "Legal Definition of a Felon"

Felon legal definition of felon - Legal Dictionary - The Free Dictionary
legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/felon
Felon. An individual who commits a crime of a serious nature, such as Burglary or murder. A person who commits a felony. West's Encyclopedia of American .

Felony legal definition of felony - Legal Dictionary - The Free Dictionary
legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/felony
Felony. A serious crime, characterized under federal law and many state statutes as any offense punishable by death or imprisonment in excess of one year.

With reference to the above definitions, Bill Clinton is a Felon.not unless he was convicted

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New York. Individuals convicted of a felony are ineligible to vote while incarcerated and on parole. Voting rights are automatically restored upon completion of parole, and people on probation can vote. Ex-offenders should re-register to vote.

At any time did Bill Clinton lose the right to vote? no

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Results of Google search for: "Legal Definition of a Felon"

Felon legal definition of felon - Legal Dictionary - The Free Dictionary
legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/felon
Felon. An individual who commits a crime of a serious nature, such as Burglary or murder. A person who commits a felony. West's Encyclopedia of American .

Felony legal definition of felony - Legal Dictionary - The Free Dictionary
legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/felony
Felony. A serious crime, characterized under federal law and many state statutes as any offense punishable by death or imprisonment in excess of one year.

With reference to the above definitions, Bill Clinton is a Felon.

:agree:...:thumbup:

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New York. Individuals convicted of a felony are ineligible to vote while incarcerated and on parole. Voting rights are automatically restored upon completion of parole, and people on probation can vote. Ex-offenders should re-register to vote.

At any time did Bill Clinton lose the right to vote? no

Are you going to deny that the Clintons did not commit felonies? Are you really that naive? Or are you really that blinded by politics?

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Another great analogy, thank-you

Thanks...

So now the FBI is crooked. :a20:

Why wouldn't you think they are? Do you think the corruption is limited to President, Congress, Senate, SCOTUS, Federal judges, EPA, SEC, CIA, and all the rest?

You post as if stupidity were a virtue. Why is that?

That's the problem with really stupid people, they're too stupid to know just how stupid they are.

not unless he was convicted

Exactly, YOU don't get to decide if he's guilty. The day a judge says he's guilty, THEN you can start calling him a felon.

Are you going to deny that the Clintons did not commit felonies? Are you really that naive? Or are you really that blinded by politics?

Most people ARE that naive...look at the crap they believe. Government is there to help, religions are real, women and minorities are "equal". All kinds of lies and fantasy.

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Thanks...

Exactly, YOU don't get to decide if he's guilty. The day a judge says he's guilty, THEN you can start calling him a felon.

So, If I rape your wife and daughter and for lack of evidence, I am never convicted, then by your logic (not legal definition) I am not a rapist? I must say, it is an interesting world in which you live.

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not unless he was convicted

The LEGAL definition provided does not require the the requirement of a conviction. However, to meet YOUR definition of a felon, a conviction is required. I think I continue to use the legal definition of a felon rather than yours.

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So, If I rape your wife and daughter and for lack of evidence, I am never convicted, then by your logic (not legal definition) I am not a rapist? I must say, it is an interesting world in which you live.

He probably doesn't have a wife and daughter, so that's probably not a good example. There isn't enough room under his rock for the three of them.

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So, If I rape your wife and daughter and for lack of evidence, I am never convicted, then by your logic (not legal definition) I am not a rapist? I must say, it is an interesting world in which you live.

If you did it, you are...but I can't call you one, or you'll sue me. Same with Hillary, she may be a felon, guilty of a felonious crime, but they can't call her one until she's convicted, just like I can't call you a rapist until you're convicted. I know these abstract concepts are tough, stick with it.

He probably doesn't have a wife and daughter, so that's probably not a good example. There isn't enough room under his rock for the three of them.

Boy, that's the pot calling the kettle black...you're thinking might be the majority now, but it's no solution and in the end will destroy a once mighty nation.

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bigot
billionaire
birther
bull****ter
biased
bully
balding
Anybody else got any?

Why in the world would you limit it to words starting with "b?"
antisemite
xenophobe
self-aggrandized
bigot ( a "b")
serial husband
chauvinist (the real one in addition to MCP)
misogynist
two-faced
pathological liar
shock jock (with not a fact in sight)
fraud (think Chump U)
childish name caller
did I say pathological liar?
back-stabber (another "b"; think Lewandowski et al.)
nationalist
sexist
fanatic
maniac
extremist
rabble-rouser
autocrat
tyrant

I could go on, bu I have plans today.

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So, If I rape your wife and daughter and for lack of evidence, I am never convicted, then by your logic (not legal definition) I am not a rapist? I must say, it is an interesting world in which you live.

Horrible example. You should be ashamed.

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bigot
billionaire
birther
bull****ter
biased
bully
balding
Anybody else got any?
bigot
xenophobe
anti-semite
misogynist
narcissist
self-aggrandized
two-faced
fact-free
chauvinist (real as well as MCP)
back-stabber
opportunist (more money for me!)
fraud (Chump U)
and above all, pathological liar

[Guest]

If you did it, you are...but I can't call you one, or you'll sue me. Same with Hillary, she may be a felon, guilty of a felonious crime, but they can't call her one until she's convicted, just like I can't call you a rapist until you're convicted. I know these abstract concepts are tough, stick with it.



Boy, that's the pot calling the kettle black...you're thinking might be the majority now, but it's no solution and in the end will destroy a once mighty nation.

The discussion was never about "calling" someone a felon. The discussion is about whether someone who has committed a felony is by legal definition a felon. At least we agree that someone who commits a felony (convicted or not) is in fact a felon. Just as you stated someone who has committed rape is a rapist (convicted or not). At least we finally agree on something. I know these abstract concepts are tough, stick with it.

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The discussion was never about "calling" someone a felon. The discussion is about whether someone who has committed a felony is by legal definition a felon. At least we agree that someone who commits a felony (convicted or not) is in fact a felon. Just as you stated someone who has committed rape is a rapist (convicted or not). At least we finally agree on something. I know these abstract concepts are tough, stick with it.That's not it. Someone said the Clintons were felons. I said they are not felons unless they were convicted.
The live in New York. Have they ever not been allowed to vote? If the answer is no, then they never were felons in the eyes of the law. What's in your eyes is you business.

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That's not it. Someone said the Clintons were felons. I said they are not felons unless they were convicted.
The live in New York. Have they ever not been allowed to vote? If the answer is no, then they never were felons in the eyes of the law. What's in your eyes is you business.

So, by your definition what is the difference, if any, between a felon and a convicted felon?

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The evidence on the face of it is stronger against Hillary Clinton separately for each of the following Benghazi, her personal e-mail server abuses and Clinton Charitable Foundation then for OJ Simpson and Casey Anthony.

It is deeply troubling then that the consensus is that Hillary Clinton will walk and may even get elected. She will because Obama and company are circling the wagons to defend her and because the main street media has continued to spin their liberal elitist propaganda in her favor. Nixon should have been so lucky

Washington and the main street media have become so corrupt that this felon will walk and the electorate so use to this corruption that they view it as normal. What a sick society we have become.

Personal Best Regards:

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bigot
billionaire
birther
bull****ter
biased
bully
balding
Anybody else got any?


Yes, I do
I have a few "C" words to describe Hilary:

corrupt
cheater
convict (future)
charlatan
clown
contemptuous
cackler
and of course, the unmentionable 4 letter "C" word

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So, by your definition what is the difference, if any, between a felon and a convicted felon?
I don't define words. It would be meaningless.

[Guest]

I don't define words. It would be meaningless.

so, in other words, you lost your pocket dictionary?

[Guest]

I don't define words. It would be meaningless.

Very well. You claimed in an earlier post that the Clintons are not felons because they were not denied the right to vote in New York state. The bold highlighted part of your statement is true and I do not dispute that.

The reason that they were not denied the the right to vote in New York is because they were never convicted of a felony, they are not convicted felons. Not because they are not felons, as in not having committed a felony. The Clintons are felons, however, they are not convicted felons. That is the difference.

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The discussion was never about "calling" someone a felon. The discussion is about whether someone who has committed a felony is by legal definition a felon. At least we agree that someone who commits a felony (convicted or not) is in fact a felon. Just as you stated someone who has committed rape is a rapist (convicted or not). At least we finally agree on something. I know these abstract concepts are tough, stick with it.

You're STILL not getting it...I'll type slower for you.

You ADMITTED you raped, so you ARE a felon by your own admission. Hillary has NOT admitted to any wrong doing, so, she is NOT a felon until someone can convince a judge she is. OR, as you, she admits she's a felon. I don't KNOW what she did or didn't do, all I "know" is what a corrupt "news" industry has decided I should be told.

That wasn't even a fine point to not get. Are you tired? Need a rest?

We'll come back to this tomorrow when you can get a fresh start...

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You're STILL not getting it...I'll type slower for you.

You ADMITTED you raped, so you ARE a felon by your own admission. Hillary has NOT admitted to any wrong doing, so, she is NOT a felon until someone can convince a judge she is. OR, as you, she admits she's a felon. I don't KNOW what she did or didn't do, all I "know" is what a corrupt "news" industry has decided I should be told.

That wasn't even a fine point to not get. Are you tired? Need a rest?

We'll come back to this tomorrow when you can get a fresh start...

typical libtard. Disparage those that don't agree with you.

The Clintons are scumbag felons. You can argue that they may not be scumbags, but they are felons. Disagree if you wish, but it won't change the fact that they are criminals. So, defend to your heart's delight, but you are in denial. Everyone else around you knows she is a scumbag felon.

Vote for her. It's your prerogative to vote for her. You don't have to justify your vote to us. We don't know who you are so you don't have to be embarrassed that you want to vote for someone so low in morals and ethics. It's your free choice, just like abortion. Knock yourself out......yes, please do. You must be a very miserable person, to fight so hard to convince yourself that she is worthy of your vote.

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You're STILL not getting it...I'll type slower for you.

You ADMITTED you raped, so you ARE a felon by your own admission. Hillary has NOT admitted to any wrong doing, so, she is NOT a felon until someone can convince a judge she is. OR, as you, she admits she's a felon. I don't KNOW what she did or didn't do, all I "know" is what a corrupt "news" industry has decided I should be told.

That wasn't even a fine point to not get. Are you tired? Need a rest?

We'll come back to this tomorrow when you can get a fresh start...

Learn to read! In post #75 I said IF, I admitted to NOTHING. .

Refer to post #66. Bill Clinton admittedd to lying under and plea bargained and accepted sen sanction to avoid felony prosecution. So, by your very definition Bill Clinton is felon. Hillary's felony indictment is still pending.

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You're STILL not getting it...I'll type slower for you.

You ADMITTED you raped, so you ARE a felon by your own admission. Hillary has NOT admitted to any wrong doing, so, she is NOT a felon until someone can convince a judge she is. OR, as you, she admits she's a felon. I don't KNOW what she did or didn't do, all I "know" is what a corrupt "news" industry has decided I should be told.

That wasn't even a fine point to not get. Are you tired? Need a rest?

We'll come back to this tomorrow when you can get a fresh start...

Corrected for typos:

Learn to read! In post #75 I said IF, I admitted to NOTHING. .

Refer to post #66. Bill Clinton admitted to lying under and plea bargained and accepted seven sanction to avoid felony prosecution. So, by your very definition Bill Clinton is felon. Hillary's felony indictment is still pending.

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typical libtard. Disparage those that don't agree with you.

The Clintons are scumbag felons. You can argue that they may not be scumbags, but they are felons. Disagree if you wish, but it won't change the fact that they are criminals. So, defend to your heart's delight, but you are in denial. Everyone else around you knows she is a scumbag felon.

Vote for her. It's your prerogative to vote for her. You don't have to justify your vote to us. We don't know who you are so you don't have to be embarrassed that you want to vote for someone so low in morals and ethics. It's your free choice, just like abortion. Knock yourself out......yes, please do. You must be a very miserable person, to fight so hard to convince yourself that she is worthy of your vote.

See...you made my point. You called me a "typical libtard", but I'm not, I'm an independent. You ASSUMED I'm guilty and you called me a "typical libtard". That's NO different than you calling Clinton a "Felon". You THINK they are guilty so you condemn them without trial. Just like you condemned me without a trial. THAT is my point. Until you KNOW they committed a felony, they're not. And you DON'T know for a fact she's guilty.

I'm not defending her, just calling you on your insisting she's a felon. She's an "accused felon".

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so guys, was Nixon a felon. He was never convicted. He never admitted any wrong doing. Then he was "pardoned", for WHAT???? So is he or isn't he???

[Guest]

so guys, was Nixon a felon. He was never convicted. He never admitted any wrong doing. Then he was "pardoned", for WHAT???? So is he or isn't he???

We may never know.

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See...you made my point. You called me a "typical libtard", but I'm not, I'm an independent. You ASSUMED I'm guilty and you called me a "typical libtard". That's NO different than you calling Clinton a "Felon". You THINK they are guilty so you condemn them without trial. Just like you condemned me without a trial. THAT is my point. Until you KNOW they committed a felony, they're not. And you DON'T know for a fact she's guilty.

I'm not defending her, just calling you on your insisting she's a felon. She's an "accused felon".

You are living in a facade. Your really ARE a liberal, and I use libtard as a show of affection. Just because you are registered as an Independent does not change anything. Most libtards are Demcorats, but not all of them. So, if you think you are being technical in one-upsmanship, then you are wrong AGAIN.

And yes, I do know she is guilty, but not found guilty in court yet. I am retired State Dept and I know exactly what she did wrong and illegal. I have the laws to prove she broke federal law. Unfortunately, whistle blowers still do not get taken seriously, so I am sure that I am not the only one that is sighing in relief that she has finally been found out. Of course, we will be just as frustrated when she gets off scott free. But, I hope that when that happens that everyone that lost their job for mishandling classified, sues the gov for wrongful firing and gets all their back pay and retirement if pertinent. Oh, and you can bet that this administration will bail her out because they knew what she was doing. Everyone knew the laws she was breaking, and that makes a lot of people accessory to the crimes. I just hope that the young friend of mine that was on her detail does not get hit with any of the fall out from it. They forced him into a very uncomfortable place, because he knows how many VIPs knew what she was doing, and knew that it was a felony.

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You are living in a facade. Your really ARE a liberal, and I use libtard as a show of affection. Just because you are registered as an Independent does not change anything. Most libtards are Demcorats, but not all of them. So, if you think you are being technical in one-upsmanship, then you are wrong AGAIN.

And yes, I do know she is guilty, but not found guilty in court yet. I am retired State Dept and I know exactly what she did wrong and illegal. I have the laws to prove she broke federal law. Unfortunately, whistle blowers still do not get taken seriously, so I am sure that I am not the only one that is sighing in relief that she has finally been found out. Of course, we will be just as frustrated when she gets off scott free. But, I hope that when that happens that everyone that lost their job for mishandling classified, sues the gov for wrongful firing and gets all their back pay and retirement if pertinent. Oh, and you can bet that this administration will bail her out because they knew what she was doing. Everyone knew the laws she was breaking, and that makes a lot of people accessory to the crimes. I just hope that the young friend of mine that was on her detail does not get hit with any of the fall out from it. They forced him into a very uncomfortable place, because he knows how many VIPs knew what she was doing, and knew that it was a felony.

No...I'm not a liberal at all, if you knew of my other posts you'd know that.

OK, IF you worked in the state dept AND you have personal knowledge about her and her emails/server. Then yes, you can call her a felon. But you CAN'T put it in the papers or on TV because she HASN'T been convicted and it's slander. So, YOU know she's a felon, but others don't, until she's convicted.

IF you are as you say you are, then you KNOW just how deep the corruption goes. How big are the lies. Unless you were compartmented out of the big picture.

I was too, but luckily, I guess luckily, it was easy to put 2 and 2 together and figure out when/where something significant happened it was also in our area of interest. MANY times the truth didn't fit the "news".

VERY few times do we hear the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

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See...you made my point. You called me a "typical libtard", but I'm not, I'm an independent. You ASSUMED I'm guilty and you called me a "typical libtard". That's NO different than you calling Clinton a "Felon". You THINK they are guilty so you condemn them without trial. Just like you condemned me without a trial. THAT is my point. Until you KNOW they committed a felony, they're not. And you DON'T know for a fact she's guilty.

I'm not defending her, just calling you on your insisting she's a felon. She's an "accused felon".

Of course you are an Independent. The Independent that thinks that the every politician with a D or R after there name is corrupt. The Independent that thinks all government agencies and officials are corrupt. The Independent that thinks that when one chooses to vote for someone other than an Independent for President that he/she is a fool. The Independent that cannot acknowledge the value of women, minorities and gays. The Independent that speaks in a condescending tone to those he disagrees with. The Independent who feels vastly superior to the minions because of his perceived Einstein-like intellect. Oh, you are that Independent.

[Guest]

typical libtard. Disparage those that don't agree with you.

The Clintons are scumbag felons. You can argue that they may not be scumbags, but they are felons. Disagree if you wish, but it won't change the fact that they are criminals. So, defend to your heart's delight, but you are in denial. Everyone else around you knows she is a scumbag felon.

Vote for her. It's your prerogative to vote for her. You don't have to justify your vote to us. We don't know who you are so you don't have to be embarrassed that you want to vote for someone so low in morals and ethics. It's your free choice, just like abortion. Knock yourself out......yes, please do. You must be a very miserable person, to fight so hard to convince yourself that she is worthy of your vote.

Oh, boy. Out of arguments, so, Chump style name calling again...LOL. What a fool.

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No...I'm not a liberal at all, if you knew of my other posts you'd know that.

OK, IF you worked in the state dept AND you have personal knowledge about her and her emails/server. Then yes, you can call her a felon. But you CAN'T put it in the papers or on TV because she HASN'T been convicted and it's slander. So, YOU know she's a felon, but others don't, until she's convicted.

IF you are as you say you are, then you KNOW just how deep the corruption goes. How big are the lies. Unless you were compartmented out of the big picture.

I was too, but luckily, I guess luckily, it was easy to put 2 and 2 together and figure out when/where something significant happened it was also in our area of interest. MANY times the truth didn't fit the "news".

VERY few times do we hear the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

Actually, Mr. Lawyer it's Libel (written defamation) and Slander (spoken defamation). I would have thought that a great legal scholar like you would know that. Any other legal advise or interpretations you wish to share?

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Of course you are an Independent. The Independent that thinks that the every politician with a D or R after there name is corrupt. The Independent that thinks all government agencies and officials are corrupt. The Independent that thinks that when one chooses to vote for someone other than an Independent for President that he/she is a fool. The Independent that cannot acknowledge the value of women, minorities and gays. The Independent that speaks in a condescending tone to those he disagrees with. The Independent who feels vastly superior to the minions because of his perceived Einstein-like intellect. Oh, you are that Independent.

You got everything but this right. Very good! Not quite that high, but verified. How about you? You got what it takes to think with the big boys?

I'm also the guy who makes the great analogies...because I understand the situation. I'm not repeating someone else's position. I'm not told what to think, I take the facts and make my own opinion. It's why I CAN defend my opinion and you can't. It's why I stat facts and you call names. You're being lied to about equality and diversity, you WILL lose your country.

The funny thing about smart people, some think they're crazy...they just don't understand. We also tend to act superior because quite frankly, we get tired of having to explain everything to you...in a way you can understand. How do you explain differential equations to a 4 y/o? How do you compress years of prerequisite knowledge into an internet post so your reader has the background to understand? You can't. Most people are brainwashed, they believe the propaganda, they're the victim of "Manufactured Consent".

The world is FULL of lies. Religion being a HUGE one. The God of Abraham...really? How could any sane person believe the nonsense? Same with The other religions. Control and explain the unexplainable, for 10%, that's all they are. Religion is one of many money making industries. Medicine is a money making industry, the LAST thing they want is "well people", they want "sick people", people with symptoms they can "cure" with a monthly subscription of drugs.

Oops, gotta run...BBQ time.
Enjoy your independence day even though you live under more tyranny than king George.

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Actually, Mr. Lawyer it's Libel (written defamation) and Slander (spoken defamation). I would have thought that a great legal scholar like you would know that. Any other legal advise or interpretations you wish to share?

I didn't use both words...sue me...

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You got everything but this right. Very good! Not quite that high, but verified. How about you? You got what it takes to think with the big boys?

I'm also the guy who makes the great analogies...because I understand the situation. I'm not repeating someone else's position. I'm not told what to think, I take the facts and make my own opinion. It's why I CAN defend my opinion and you can't. It's why I stat facts and you call names. You're being lied to about equality and diversity, you WILL lose your country.

The funny thing about smart people, some think they're crazy...they just don't understand. We also tend to act superior because quite frankly, we get tired of having to explain everything to you...in a way you can understand. How do you explain differential equations to a 4 y/o? How do you compress years of prerequisite knowledge into an internet post so your reader has the background to understand? You can't. Most people are brainwashed, they believe the propaganda, they're the victim of "Manufactured Consent".

The world is FULL of lies. Religion being a HUGE one. The God of Abraham...really? How could any sane person believe the nonsense? Same with The other religions. Control and explain the unexplainable, for 10%, that's all they are. Religion is one of many money making industries. Medicine is a money making industry, the LAST thing they want is "well people", they want "sick people", people with symptoms they can "cure" with a monthly subscription of drugs.

Oops, gotta run...BBQ time.
Enjoy your independence day even though you live under more tyranny than king George.

And, we are very impressed!:bigbow:

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You got everything but this right. Very good! Not quite that high, but verified. How about you? You got what it takes to think with the big boys?

I'm also the guy who makes the great analogies...because I understand the situation. I'm not repeating someone else's position. I'm not told what to think, I take the facts and make my own opinion. It's why I CAN defend my opinion and you can't. It's why I stat facts and you call names. You're being lied to about equality and diversity, you WILL lose your country.

The funny thing about smart people, some think they're crazy...they just don't understand. We also tend to act superior because quite frankly, we get tired of having to explain everything to you...in a way you can understand. How do you explain differential equations to a 4 y/o? How do you compress years of prerequisite knowledge into an internet post so your reader has the background to understand? You can't. Most people are brainwashed, they believe the propaganda, they're the victim of "Manufactured Consent".

The world is FULL of lies. Religion being a HUGE one. The God of Abraham...really? How could any sane person believe the nonsense? Same with The other religions. Control and explain the unexplainable, for 10%, that's all they are. Religion is one of many money making industries. Medicine is a money making industry, the LAST thing they want is "well people", they want "sick people", people with symptoms they can "cure" with a monthly subscription of drugs.

Oops, gotta run...BBQ time.
Enjoy your independence day even though you live under more tyranny than king George.

No, sorry to say I'm not a "big boy", nor do I suffer from delusions of grandeur. But, I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night.:D

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You are living in a facade. Your really ARE a liberal, and I use libtard as a show of affection. Just because you are registered as an Independent does not change anything. Most libtards are Demcorats, but not all of them. So, if you think you are being technical in one-upsmanship, then you are wrong AGAIN.

And yes, I do know she is guilty, but not found guilty in court yet. I am retired State Dept and I know exactly what she did wrong and illegal. I have the laws to prove she broke federal law. Unfortunately, whistle blowers still do not get taken seriously, so I am sure that I am not the only one that is sighing in relief that she has finally been found out. Of course, we will be just as frustrated when she gets off scott free. But, I hope that when that happens that everyone that lost their job for mishandling classified, sues the gov for wrongful firing and gets all their back pay and retirement if pertinent. Oh, and you can bet that this administration will bail her out because they knew what she was doing. Everyone knew the laws she was breaking, and that makes a lot of people accessory to the crimes. I just hope that the young friend of mine that was on her detail does not get hit with any of the fall out from it. They forced him into a very uncomfortable place, because he knows how many VIPs knew what she was doing, and knew that it was a felony.

And I'm a retired FBI agent. LOL

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You can't fix stupid.

Than you. Nailed it. :bigbow:

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Than you. Nailed it. :bigbow:

Edit - thank you.

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Actually, Mr. Lawyer it's Libel (written defamation) and Slander (spoken defamation). I would have thought that a great legal scholar like you would know that. Any other legal advise or interpretations you wish to share?

Not quite true. A person is not libel unless the aggrieved party can prove that the statement is not true. As you know, in politics you can accuse and suggest any charge you wish.

Of course, it is always OK to say "In my opinion, Hillary is a scumbag felon" and there is nothing anyone can do in any court, because it is my opinion. I can say that "in my opinion, Billy Clinton is a rapist and child molester" and there is nothing that can be done in court. It's one's opinion.

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Not quite true. A person is not libel unless the aggrieved party can prove that the statement is not true. As you know, in politics you can accuse and suggest any charge you wish.

Of course, it is always OK to say "In my opinion, Hillary is a scumbag felon" and there is nothing anyone can do in any court, because it is my opinion. I can say that "in my opinion, Billy Clinton is a rapist and child molester" and there is nothing that can be done in court. It's one's opinion.

And I can say, trump is a bigot, con man, liar, womanizer , ect. ect.

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[QUOTE=Guest;1249458. They forced him into a very uncomfortable place, because he knows how many VIPs knew what she was doing, and knew that it was a felony.[/QUOTE]
Why would he be uncomfortable? He didn't know something special.
Hillary: 'People in White House...Knew I Was Emailing From a Personal Account' | MRCTV (http://www.mrctv.org/blog/hillary-says-wh-knew-about-private-email-about-classifications)

Muir followed up asking, "And so as you sit here, millions watching tonight, did you make a mistake?" Her answer began by saying that everyone knew, but no one tried to stop her:

"I did. I did. As I said, it was allowed and there was no hiding it. It was totally above board. Everybody in the government I communicated with -- and that was a lot of people-- knew I was using a personal e-mail. But I'm sorry that it has, you know, raised all of these questions. I do take responsibility for having made what is clearly not the best decision."

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No, sorry to say I'm not a "big boy", nor do I suffer from delusions of grandeur. But, I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night.:D

At least you admit it, many don't realize their limitations.

It's not delusional when it's a fact. Ali called himself the greatest, was he delusional? Einstein thought himself brilliant, was he delusional?

Losers deride winners.

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You can't fix stupid.

Than you. Nailed it. :bigbow:

Edit - thank you.

No you can't...and that is the problem. We're trying to "fix"..."stupid minorities"...and make them "just like us". You can't. Only "God" can fix them. We're destroying our country trying. THEY are becoming the majority. They will overwhelm us.

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At least you admit it, many don't realize their limitations.

It's not delusional when it's a fact. Ali called himself the greatest, was he delusional? Einstein thought himself brilliant, was he delusional?

Losers deride winners.





No you can't...and that is the problem. We're trying to "fix"..."stupid minorities"...and make them "just like us". You can't. Only "God" can fix them. We're destroying our country trying. THEY are becoming the majority. They will overwhelm us.

Now, if you could only develop some social skills and a personality (of any sort) to compliment you 'extraordinary" intellect and massive ego, perhaps those around you would not think of you as the 'village idiot'.

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Now, if you could only develop some social skills and a personality (of any sort) to compliment you 'extraordinary" intellect and massive ego, perhaps those around you would not think of you as the 'village idiot'.

Only here...that's the beauty of anonymity...you don't have to beat around the bush, you don't have to feel out your audience...you can just speak the truth without reprisal.

It's refreshing

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At least you admit it, many don't realize their limitations.

It's not delusional when it's a fact. Ali called himself the greatest, was he delusional? Einstein thought himself brilliant, was he delusional?

Losers deride winners.





No you can't...and that is the problem. We're trying to "fix"..."stupid minorities"...and make them "just like us". You can't. Only "God" can fix them. We're destroying our country trying. THEY are becoming the majority. They will overwhelm us.

Your equating yourself to Albert Einstein is laughable! Albert Einstein was a modest and humble man, you are anything but. You are nothing more that a bragger, blowhard and bigot who has a very a distorted view of the world. You are no doubt a lonely, bitter old man.

And in you mind you are a winner and the rest of the world losers...laughable.

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At least you admit it, many don't realize their limitations.

It's not delusional when it's a fact. Ali called himself the greatest, was he delusional? Einstein thought himself brilliant, was he delusional?



Losers deride winners.





No you can't...and that is the problem. We're trying to "fix"..."stupid minorities"...and make them "just like us". You can't. Only "God" can fix them. We're destroying our country trying. THEY are becoming the majority. They will overwhelm us.

Albert Einstein --
“A true genius admits that he/she knows nothing.”

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Your equating yourself to Albert Einstein is laughable! Albert Einstein was a modest and humble man, you are anything but. You are nothing more that a bragger, blowhard and bigot who has a very a distorted view of the world. You are no doubt a lonely, bitter old man.

And in you mind you are a winner and the rest of the world losers...laughable.

I never said that, I said they weren't delusional when they considered themselves smarter than others.

You KNEW that how? You were a close friend? Otherwise you know the public persona. Just like MY public persona.

No, I've got a clear view of the world. I know for a FACT that the government lies and the history books are often VERY wrong.

I know more people than I can remember their names. I'm very nice and personable when I want to be. I'm just honest when discussing something. I call a spade a spade. I do get impatient with idiots who think they're smart.

Albert Einstein --
“A true genius admits that he/she knows nothing.”

Yes, but they know more than you do...

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I never said that, I said they weren't delusional when they considered themselves smarter than others.

You KNEW that how? You were a close friend? Otherwise you know the public persona. Just like MY public persona.

No, I've got a clear view of the world. I know for a FACT that the government lies and the history books are often VERY wrong.

I know more people than I can remember their names. I'm very nice and personable when I want to be. I'm just honest when discussing something. I call a spade a spade. I do get impatient with idiots who think they're smart.



Yes, but they know more than you do...

I couldn't have said it better myself.

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Only here...that's the beauty of anonymity...you don't have to beat around the bush, you don't have to feel out your audience...you can just speak the truth without reprisal.

It's refreshing

Yeah hiding behind the keyboard can make one 10 feet tall and brave as a bull!!!!

Face to face or even raise your hand with your real name and they wilt to what they are in reality.....insignificant, cowering along the wall pansy.

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So, we have an accomplished businessman who maintains the truth, this country is in trouble right? Yes it is.

Now we have persons who want to elect the greatest liar and cheat the political world has ever known, who stands with her man, the great cheater and liar too!

Is that what you want for this great country to deal with. How about someone who has a good business background instead of the typical politician who has nothing to offer but a great experience in the political process of greed, pocket lining and TRAVEL, TRAVEL.

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Yeah hiding behind the keyboard can make one 10 feet tall and brave as a bull!!!!

Face to face or even raise your hand with your real name and they wilt to what they are in reality.....insignificant, cowering along the wall pansy.

Keep believing that beta...more name calling...ALL you got. And you wonder why I treat most of you with disdain...

OK people, enough with the gossip...time to move on.

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So, we have an accomplished businessman who maintains the truth, this country is in trouble right? Yes it is.

Now we have persons who want to elect the greatest liar and cheat the political world has ever known, who stands with her man, the great cheater and liar too!

Is that what you want for this great country to deal with. How about someone who has a good business background instead of the typical politician who has nothing to offer but a great experience in the political process of greed, pocket lining and TRAVEL, TRAVEL.

Have you considered that Trump is fooling you too? That he'll be "the new boss, same as the old boss"? Make promises he has no intention of keeping? Just like all the rest? The R party is in deep trouble, no "mainstream" R candidate has a chance...the last two elections proved that. They're outnumbered by an ever expanding D/minority voter base.

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You got everything but this right. Very good! Not quite that high, but verified. How about you? You got what it takes to think with the big boys?

I'm also the guy who makes the great analogies...because I understand the situation. I'm not repeating someone else's position. I'm not told what to think, I take the facts and make my own opinion. It's why I CAN defend my opinion and you can't. It's why I stat facts and you call names. You're being lied to about equality and diversity, you WILL lose your country.

The funny thing about smart people, some think they're crazy...they just don't understand. We also tend to act superior because quite frankly, we get tired of having to explain everything to you...in a way you can understand. How do you explain differential equations to a 4 y/o? How do you compress years of prerequisite knowledge into an internet post so your reader has the background to understand? You can't. Most people are brainwashed, they believe the propaganda, they're the victim of "Manufactured Consent".

The world is FULL of lies. Religion being a HUGE one. The God of Abraham...really? How could any sane person believe the nonsense? Same with The other religions. Control and explain the unexplainable, for 10%, that's all they are. Religion is one of many money making industries. Medicine is a money making industry, the LAST thing they want is "well people", they want "sick people", people with symptoms they can "cure" with a monthly subscription of drugs.

Oops, gotta run...BBQ time.
Enjoy your independence day even though you live under more tyranny than king George.
ching you
I don't know who you are but I have vastly enjoyed watching you make a chump of the fool.

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A word to the wise is sufficient.
I give a post about 10 seconds. If it's the same old stuff posted 100 times before or if there are multiple posts added together I ignore it.

If most people do that, most posters are wasting their time.

The guy on the soap box at least gets to see he is being ignored.

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A word to the wise is sufficient.
I give a post about 10 seconds. If it's the same old stuff posted 100 times before or if there are multiple posts added together I ignore it.

If most people do that, most posters are wasting their time.

The guy on the soap box at least gets to see he is being ignored.

Yes they are, because most people have their minds already made and won't listen to anything that doesn't confirm what they already think...confirmation bias.

!0 seconds? You don't learn much about things if you only give it 10 seconds.

And sorry, I'm not here all day to reply individually. So I reply all at once. You skip it at your own peril. Like you ignored the groups who have been trying to warn you that the minorities are taking over and THEY WILL, "fundamentally change America". The minority sitting in the White House told you what they were going to do, and you LET THEM.

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Yes they are, because most people have their minds already made and won't listen to anything that doesn't confirm what they already think...confirmation bias.

!0 seconds? You don't learn much about things if you only give it 10 seconds.

And sorry, I'm not here all day to reply individually. So I reply all at once. You skip it at your own peril. Like you ignored the groups who have been trying to warn you that the minorities are taking over and THEY WILL, "fundamentally change America". The minority sitting in the White House told you what they were going to do, and you LET THEM. In 10 second 90% of the time I know the message of the post. That doesn't take insight or special skills when the same people say the same old **** over and over.

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In 10 second 90% of the time I know the message of the post. That doesn't take insight or special skills when the same people say the same old **** over and over.

You can miss "hidden gems" that way. That 10% could be mind changing. Just saying...

Of course it depends on the subject. And how drawn out and winded the post is.

The worst for me are the 500 line long no paragraph posts...now THOSE I just skim.

What amazes me is the ignorance...not said in a bad, deriding way. It's pure "lack of knowledge", due to the lies perpetuated by "the system".

Like a perpetual believing in Santa Claus or the tooth fairy. Outright falsehoods and nobody says a thing about it, nobody calls it out. Because those lies are part of "the system", the system of control and skimming from the people.

Government, it's a group of "know it alls" who tell you what you can and can't do, for a fee. It's also the liaison between the rich and powerful with their corporations and the people they want the most they can get from. You don't live under ONE king you must pay "tribute" to, you live under many. Politicians pass laws and appoint people to do the corporations bidding. Welfare, ALL kinds, is great for the corporations, it's free money given to stupid fools to buy their products. They pass laws and create regulations that stifle competition. Government is a cancer to a society. I could go on for days...

Religion, all deity religions are false. Yet people have been so brainwashed that they'll DIE for it. It AMAZES me that early brainwashing can be so powerful. I never bought the BS Jesus stories when I was a child, it saved me from becoming "one of them", a "believer", their whole rationale comes down to "you just have to have faith". In what? Stories made up by lazy, controlling people who wanted 10%? The OT "God of Abraham" and Jesus are two completely different people. No wonder the Jews said..."huh?" Islam? Come on...really? Mormonism? Another "one man" religion. After all "Christianity" is really all Saul (Paul's) doing. Many believe he's responsible for half the NT. Just about all agree he wrote or influenced 1/3. There are 5000 sects of Christianity alone. Each believing the others are wrong and will not be "saved". Funny thing about religion, pay now, get your reward later...hmmm.

Politics...don't get me started! Really...I won't go there. Theater...one word describes it. It's a joke. Mortal enemies when the cameras are rolling...part of the foursome when the weekend comes.

Goebbels started something...they've been riding that propaganda wave ever since.

Feeling chatty today.