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SickofSnow
06-27-2016, 06:40 AM
Why are the Villages of Silver Lake and Orange Blossom often referred to as the Historical Side? Why can't they just be called by the village name that they are?
Fred R
06-27-2016, 06:42 AM
Because they were the first areas to be developed before TV moved to the South side of 27/441.
SickofSnow
06-27-2016, 06:47 AM
I understand that, but why not just call them by their Village name?
CWGUY
06-27-2016, 06:55 AM
Why are the Villages of Silver Lake and Orange Blossom often referred to as the Historical Side? Why can't they just be called by the village name that they are?
:oops: Isn't the village of Country Club Hills on the Historical Side too?
outlaw
06-27-2016, 06:57 AM
Why are the Villages of Silver Lake and Orange Blossom often referred to as the Historical Side? Why can't they just be called by the village name that they are?
It's shorter!
Marathon Man
06-27-2016, 07:10 AM
Because, well, that is what it is called.
graciegirl
06-27-2016, 07:27 AM
Ain't nothin' wrong with calling that part the historical side. Older is happenin' around these parts. This is a 55 or BETTER community.
bookseller61
06-27-2016, 07:47 AM
Proud to be a Silver Lake Villager Historical Sider
JoelJohnson
06-27-2016, 07:57 AM
Sometimes called the PRE-Historic side :)
justjim
06-27-2016, 08:25 AM
OP, just like some cities and towns have a historical side so does The Villages. I think it gives it some distinction and puts it a "class" by itself. All good IMHO.
TomOB
06-27-2016, 08:52 AM
You can call it what you want. I don't think many people sit with a map and memorize each Village and it's exact location. It is easier to say "I live in the (Pre) Historic section, Spanish Springs, Lake Sumter or Brownwood and then narrow it down if necessary.
rdhdleo
06-27-2016, 09:15 AM
Nothing wrong with calling it that. Think of it this way, if you're looking into the "history" of The Villages, that side is where it all began. Harold Schwartz the man who started it all lived there in a manufactured home till he was no longer able to :)
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
06-27-2016, 09:22 AM
The historical district is made up of three villages, Silver Lake (where I live), Orange Blossom Gardens and Country Club Hills.
Often when we're discussing which village that we live in, many people are unfamiliar with exactly where they are.
If someone says they live in Pinellas, they might have to explain that it's south of 466A and runs between Morse and Buena Vista. If I say I live in Silver Lake, people often ask where it it. I just say the historical district and they know.
It's called that because this is where Harold Schwartz began The Villages. His original home is still standing on the corner of Tarrson and Aloha. This is the history of The Villages. Besides is sounds a lot better than "the old section".
dewilson58
06-27-2016, 09:24 AM
The historical district is made up of three villages, Silver Lake (where I live), Orange Blossom Gardens and Country Club Hills.
Often when we're discussing which village that we live in, many people are unfamiliar with exactly where they are.
If someone says they live in Pinellas, they might have to explain that it's south of 466A and runs between Morse and Buena Vista. If I say I live in Silver Lake, people often ask where it it. I just say the historical district and they know.
It's called that because this is where Harold Schwartz began The Villages. His original home is still standing on the corner of Tarrson and Aloha. This is the history of The Villages. Besides is sounds a lot better than "the old section".
I live in Pinellas.................Darn!!!, now everyone knows where I live.
CWGUY
06-27-2016, 09:39 AM
The historical district is made up of three villages, Silver Lake (where I live), Orange Blossom Gardens and Country Club Hills.
Often when we're discussing which village that we live in, many people are unfamiliar with exactly where they are.
If someone says they live in Pinellas, they might have to explain that it's south of 466A and runs between Morse and Buena Vista. If I say I live in Silver Lake, people often ask where it it. I just say the historical district and they know.
It's called that because this is where Harold Schwartz began The Villages. His original home is still standing on the corner of Tarrson and Aloha. This is the history of The Villages. Besides is sounds a lot better than "the old section".
:oops: And I thought Pinellas was west of Buena Vista.
Allegiance
06-27-2016, 10:15 AM
It seems each year at least two houses on each block are being replaced with new site built homes. It's both prehistoric and futuristic at the same time. Some, like me, think it's ideal. The three Villages are contiguous and it is a perfect place to ride bike safely for hours on very low traffic streets lined with large trees, never passing the same street twice. Every Neighbor says hello. Truly ideal.
The Mountaineer
06-27-2016, 11:18 AM
Nearly every city and town in America has designated a historic district. It's a way of attracting tourists who don't know the area. Travelers like old stuff, unless it's in their garage sale. In The Villages' case, it's saying, "This is where it all began." Nothing wrong with it. We say our home is on the historic side, then say across the street from #4 green of the Silver Lake Golf course. That pretty well nails it for those who need directions. With the pond surrounded by #4, #5 and #6 greens, we get some interesting critters on our property, such as bats, snakes, hawks, fox, raccoons and the usual squirrels. Makes life interesting.
manaboutown
06-27-2016, 11:21 AM
At least it is not called "Old Town" as it is in many cities and towns.
Ragtop
06-27-2016, 11:59 AM
Be proud of the Historic side. That where the feeling that we love about The Villages started.
ColdNoMore
06-27-2016, 01:54 PM
I personally believe it is simply an acceptable 'code,' for snobs to look down their noses on the modular/trailers that are predominant there.
While I'm not a big fan of the course (too short/easy for my tastes), after playing it recently I think they have the best greens in The Villages by far and those who play there should be very proud of them. :thumbup:
Bogie Shooter
06-27-2016, 02:05 PM
I personally believe it is simply an acceptable 'code,' for snobs to look down their noses on the modular/trailers that are predominant there.
While I'm not a big fan of the course (too short/easy for my tastes), after playing it recently I think they have the best greens in The Villages by far and those who play there should be very proud of them. :thumbup:
I think you are way off base with this statement!
I been here 15 years and have yet to hear anyone say this about the Historical Side.
janmcn
06-27-2016, 02:39 PM
It was a term of endearment for these villages used by Harold Schwartz right up until the day he died.
SouthOfTheBorder
06-27-2016, 03:16 PM
I personally believe it is simply an acceptable 'code,' for snobs to look down their noses on the modular/trailers that are predominant there. :thumbup:
I think your personal belief is waaaaay of track on this subject.
By chance, have you had the time to do any research/reading about the history of Florida including The Villages? The Historical (code for Original) section of The Villages represents much of the housing throughout Florida after WW2 as it was being settled by people from colder climates all looking for a better life or a place to spend their �retirement� years.
Florida�s history is dominated by what we call today the hard-working middle class, not by the rich and famous. Albeit the few rich and famous may be the best known.
Just curious, where do the �snobs� you refer to, live in TV?
We also enjoy playing all the courses in the Historic Side including OBH. :thumbup:
Don
Marathon Man
06-27-2016, 04:05 PM
I personally believe it is simply an acceptable 'code,' for snobs to look down their noses on the modular/trailers that are predominant there.
While I'm not a big fan of the course (too short/easy for my tastes), after playing it recently I think they have the best greens in The Villages by far and those who play there should be very proud of them. :thumbup:
Wow. Just, wow. Several thousand people just got called snobs.
Fred R
06-27-2016, 04:11 PM
When I first visited TV I rented on the Historical Side. I didn't end up buying there but I still love riding over there. I think it is the most friendly of any of the Villages. In the far south I hardly see folks outside those big homes but on the Historical side folks are always out and wave to everyone. Just IMHO I'm glad that the developer is buying and rebuilding stick built homes over there to keep the values up. There are some great buys over there also.
Chi-Town
06-27-2016, 04:38 PM
A few times I have hooked up with golfers on the historic executive courses. Each time was a treat, because it seems that there is a happiness quotient that is almost resort like.
Bogie Shooter
06-27-2016, 04:46 PM
I think your personal belief is waaaaay of track on this subject.
By chance, have you had the time to do any research/reading about the history of Florida including The Villages? The Historical (code for Original) section of The Villages represents much of the housing throughout Florida after WW2 as it was being settled by people from colder climates all looking for a better life or a place to spend their �retirement� years.
Florida�s history is dominated by what we call today the hard-working middle class, not by the rich and famous. Albeit the few rich and famous may be the best known.
Just curious, where do the �snobs� you refer to, live in TV?
We also enjoy playing all the courses in the Historic Side including OBH. :thumbup:
Don
I agree, even if the Champs course is too short and too easy. Who really is the snob here?
Buffalo Jim
06-27-2016, 05:03 PM
I personally believe it is simply an acceptable 'code,' for snobs to look down their noses on the modular/trailers that are predominant there.
While I'm not a big fan of the course (too short/easy for my tastes), after playing it recently I think they have the best greens in The Villages by far and those who play there should be very proud of them. :thumbup:
I think that many of us might find it interesting to hear / read about a number of your other observations and opinions .
They might provide some interesting insights and be the source of some interesting dialog/ debate .:024:
justjim
06-27-2016, 05:54 PM
I personally believe it is simply an acceptable 'code,' for snobs to look down their noses on the modular/trailers that are predominant there.
While I'm not a big fan of the course (too short/easy for my tastes), after playing it recently I think they have the best greens in The Villages by far and those who play there should be very proud of them. :thumbup:
OBG has character and is plenty challenging for most senior golfers here in The Villages. If you can seriously call OBG too easy--- congratulations you have "game".
I have never heard anything but good things about the historical side of The Villages and its residents.
Polar Bear
06-27-2016, 07:33 PM
...If you can seriously call OBG too easy--- congratulations you have "game"...
My thoughts exactly. :)
golf2140
06-27-2016, 08:42 PM
Back in the late 90's when we were thinking of buying a home in The Villages we visited the historic side often. It was so well maintained and the folks were friendly, we purchased our home here. I love OBH, not easy but fun to play.
TJ_Woody
06-27-2016, 09:30 PM
I live in Silver Lake and sometimes like to refer to it as the hysterical side. :angel:
Nucky
06-27-2016, 09:43 PM
Why are the Villages of Silver Lake and Orange Blossom often referred to as the Historical Side? Why can't they just be called by the village name that they are?
Your question is properly answered by many before me as we are new here ourselves. In the next week hopefully it will be named the Hysterical Section because we intend to laugh as much and often as possible. We have met many potential new neighbors who are just wonderful and friendly. If anyone has a bad thought about where we have chosen to live let them speak their mind freely, their opinion is truly none of my business. We have been $Prisoner's$ to several houses in the last twenty years. Not anymore...We're Historical/Hysterical! :jester:
Polar Bear
06-27-2016, 09:51 PM
Areas often have nicknames. Is it really any more complicated than that?
Nucky
06-27-2016, 09:58 PM
Areas often have nicknames. Is it really any more complicated than that?
Bingo. :wave:
Barefoot
06-27-2016, 10:17 PM
The historical district is made up of three villages, Silver Lake (where I live), Orange Blossom Gardens and Country Club Hills.
Often when we're discussing which village that we live in, many people are unfamiliar with exactly where they are.
If someone says they live in Pinellas, they might have to explain that it's south of 466A and runs between Morse and Buena Vista. If I say I live in Silver Lake, people often ask where it it. I just say the historical district and they know.
It's called that because this is where Harold Schwartz began The Villages. His original home is still standing on the corner of Tarrson and Aloha. This is the history of The Villages. Besides is sounds a lot better than "the old section".
It was a term of endearment for these villages used by Harold Schwartz right up until the day he died.
I think both the above posts explain it nicely!
We have friends that have a lovely home on a lakefront lot in Historical. It's a very friendly part of The Villages.
The Mountaineer
06-27-2016, 10:39 PM
Nearly every city and town in America has designated a historic district. It's a way of attracting tourists who don't know the area. Travelers like old stuff, unless it's in their garage sale. In The Villages' case, it's saying, "This is where it all began." Nothing wrong with it. We say our home is on the historic side, then say across the street from #4 green of the Silver Lake Golf course. That pretty well nails it for those who need directions. With the pond surrounded by #4, #5 and #6 greens, we get some interesting critters on our property, such as bats, snakes, hawks, fox, raccoons and the usual squirrels. Makes life interesting.
We get to ride our golf carts over the bridge when we go to the newer Villages. And you're right: Every neighbor we have in Silver Lake waves at us every time we go outside, or ride our golf cart down the street. It's a given. And neighbors don't report neighbors for putting up a sign or the wrong-colored whatever. The Historic Side is VERY friendly. Or maybe I'm just snobbish about living where the greatest retirement development in America began.
ColdNoMore
06-27-2016, 11:18 PM
I think you are way off base with this statement!
You are entitled to your opinion.
I been here 15 years and have yet to hear anyone say this about the Historical Side.
Rented in 2009/2010, bought in 2011 and have heard it numerous times from the first month of renting.
Just because you supposedly have NEVER heard it, in no way means it isn't true.
And if there's any question as to how I personally feel about it, refer back to my post where I think those who say it are sorry azz snobs.
ColdNoMore
06-27-2016, 11:39 PM
For clarification, let me add that I did not mean to imply that ALL who use the term 'Historical Side' are those who are snobs.
Just that SOME who say it, sometimes compare it to large trailer parks with their own golf course.
ColdNoMore
06-28-2016, 01:29 AM
OBG has character and is plenty challenging for most senior golfers here in The Villages. If you can seriously call OBG too easy--- congratulations you have "game".
My thoughts exactly. :)
While "having game" is a relative term, course and slope ratings are not.
All one has to do is to compare OBH with other courses, from the same set of tees (at least from the blue or gold, of which I'm most familiar with) to realize my statement was accurate. I do not recall any championship 18 being rated easier, but it is possible I recall incorrectly. If I have, please post a link to an 18 hole combination that has a lower course or slope rating and I will happily acknowledge as much.
And if it really matters to y'all, my index is single digit which isn't that big of a deal as a number of guys I regularly play with have a lower index than myself.
If that bothers you, I don't see how there's much I can do about it. :shrug:
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
06-28-2016, 06:34 AM
You are entitled to your opinion.
Rented in 2009/2010, bought in 2011 and have heard it numerous times from the first month of renting.
Just because you supposedly have NEVER heard it, in no way means it isn't true.
And if there's any question as to how I personally feel about it, refer back to my post where I think those who say it are sorry azz snobs.
I actually responded to a post on this forum a few years ago where the poster wanted to know why they ever allowed that historical side to ever become a part of The Villages.
I guess not everyone is interested in the history of our little community, but I am so I did my best to explain it to her.
asianthree
06-28-2016, 06:35 AM
It's the best walking path, shady, benches to sit and watch the water fowl.
Mr. Grampi II
06-28-2016, 08:10 AM
I have been coming to the Villages since 1994, we rented for years until we bought our 1st house in 2011, and bought another house in 2014. We have experienced the Villages history 1st hand, saw it start with single / double wide house trailers, then modular homes ,then some stick built homes, all of them beautiful. As most are aware the developer and others are starting to replace some of those 1st homes with new stick built houses, that is the Villages history and thus the “historical side”. We live in Mallory now and love to go over to the historical side, very nice people and a beautiful area overall
Since we are sharing our opinions, I’ll share mine, no disrespect is intended. I have heard the term “historical side” countless times and never ever once thought of it as “code” for anything. I think sometimes in today’s culture we tend to overthink some things.
I went to a MLB baseball game recently and the Yankees were playing. A-Rod “adjusted” himself multiple times as athletes are known to do. The young women in the seats in front of me said it was code, indicating he was available tonight …..
Jamescarriker
06-28-2016, 08:12 AM
Why does it matter??????? Just get over it and enjoy the beautiful area that we all live in.
ColdNoMore
06-28-2016, 11:23 AM
I actually responded to a post on this forum a few years ago where the poster wanted to know why they ever allowed that historical side to ever become a part of The Villages.
I guess not everyone is interested in the history of our little community, but I am so I did my best to explain it to her.
Thank you for your honesty.
Those are the exact type people I'm talking about, who are snobs but have no idea how this great place got started.
Obviously Booger Shooter wasn't here when you addressed her snobbiness and missed your post.
2BNTV
06-28-2016, 11:44 AM
The Historical Section of TV, is the name everyone refers to, as being the original homes, of this wonderful community.
The homes are manufactured and not trailer type homes.
Some people are delighted that most of these homes do not look similar, as some newer homes, that were built in the newer areas.
About 80 of these homes are scheduled for being rebuilt. Some have been rebuilt. I think it adds more value to the area, as the developer is looking for ways to benefit the inhabitants of our community.
It has it's own beauty, as some people enjoy in having less traffic through their neighborhoods.
To each their own. As the Beatles song says, "let it be".
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