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H.R.2646 - 114th Congress (2015-2016): Helping Families in Mental Health Crisis Act of 2015 | Congress.gov | Library of Congress (https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/2646)

I hope people will look into this and contact your Representative if you are so inclined.

Something needs to be done about preventing access to certain weapons by mentally ill men and women. It is at least something.

I know that some families might abuse the right of committing someone in their own family for very private reasons-- like leaping a step in the inheritance line by making a rival look nuts-- but this is at least a step. I do not know the details of this bill though.

Maybe a retired social worker or lawyer will give us more details???

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H.R.2646 - 114th Congress (2015-2016): Helping Families in Mental Health Crisis Act of 2015 | Congress.gov | Library of Congress (https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/2646)

I hope people will look into this and contact your Representative if you are so inclined.

Something needs to be done about preventing access to certain weapons by mentally ill men and women. It is at least something.

I know that some families might abuse the right of committing someone in their own family for very private reasons-- like leaping a step in the inheritance line by making a rival look nuts-- but this is at least a step. I do not know the details of this bill though.

Maybe a retired social worker or lawyer will give us more details???

This will do absolutely NOTHING except give some liberals a warm and fuzzy feeling. The family should be involved, not the government nanny.

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H.R.2646 - 114th Congress (2015-2016): Helping Families in Mental Health Crisis Act of 2015 | Congress.gov | Library of Congress (https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/2646)

I hope people will look into this and contact your Representative if you are so inclined.

Something needs to be done about preventing access to certain weapons by mentally ill men and women. It is at least something.

I know that some families might abuse the right of committing someone in their own family for very private reasons-- like leaping a step in the inheritance line by making a rival look nuts-- but this is at least a step. I do not know the details of this bill though.

Maybe a retired social worker or lawyer will give us more details???

And WHERE does 90% of the shooting occur? By minorities in the inner cities. You want to drastically cut back on crime? You need to deal with the minorities...soon to be majorities. They are the real cause of most of the violence. There were what, almost 1000 killings in the last year?

72 murders, 361 shootings in Chicago in June, according to CPD | abc7chicago.com (http://abc7chicago.com/news/more-than-70-murders-360-shootings-in-chicago-in-june/1409581/)

THIS is what's wrong with America yet we refuse to admit it. You want to do something about shootings...do something about the minorities. What we've been doing clearly isn't working.

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THIS is what's wrong with America yet we refuse to admit it. You want to do something about shootings...do something about the minorities. What we've been doing clearly isn't working.What's your solution?

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What's your solution?

Make it a federal law that blacks are not allowed to own, possess, borrow or be in the same room with a gun.

Instantaneous results?

Gun crimes and murders drop to near zero.

Black population explosion ensues!!

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What's your solution?

I am not the original poster but think we need to do aggressive criminal "profiling" and give law inforcement a very liberal stop and frisk power even if I have to give up a little personal freedom.

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What's your solution?

Humane or expedient?

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Humane or expedient?Humane means having or showing compassion or benevolence. Does describe you?

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61% of killings are classified as suicides. Everything that can be done has been done to reduce the suicide rate in America, but some folks are just weak. And I do not mean that in a derogatory manner, just an observation. You also have an increase suicide rate after wars. Over 50K died by suicide after Vietnam, and there has been thousands of suicides since the fighting in the Middle East. Some of the blame for veteran suicides is related to how they are treated when they return home. Not to cast total blame but liberals didn't help any when they protested in the streets and disparaged our returning military Vets. Other reasons for suicide are financial hardships, loss of close family members, divorce, substance abuse, untreated depression, loss of employment, persistent physical pain, etc. You can assist victims of these traits, but you can't alleviate suicides altogether. A gun is just a tool for these actions. If not a gun, then a sharp object, chemicals, etc.

If you could get rid of ALL suicides and gang slayings by gun in America, the overall statistics for gun related deaths would be substantially low, compared to death by overdose, by doctor, by automobile, by falling, by drowning, etc.

There has already been a lot of effort put into mental health, so any political action at this point is all just campaign motivated fluff.

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61% of killings are classified as suicides. Everything that can be done has been done to reduce the suicide rate in America, but some folks are just weak. And I do not mean that in a derogatory manner, just an observation. You also have an increase suicide rate after wars. Over 50K died by suicide after Vietnam, and there has been thousands of suicides since the fighting in the Middle East. Some of the blame for veteran suicides is related to how they are treated when they return home. Not to cast total blame but liberals didn't help any when they protested in the streets and disparaged our returning military Vets. Other reasons for suicide are financial hardships, loss of close family members, divorce, substance abuse, untreated depression, loss of employment, persistent physical pain, etc. You can assist victims of these traits, but you can't alleviate suicides altogether. A gun is just a tool for these actions. If not a gun, then a sharp object, chemicals, etc.

If you could get rid of ALL suicides and gang slayings by gun in America, the overall statistics for gun related deaths would be substantially low, compared to death by overdose, by doctor, by automobile, by falling, by drowning, etc.

There has already been a lot of effort put into mental health, so any political action at this point is all just campaign motivated fluff.

"Research shows a gun in the home makes a suicide three times more likely. There are a few reasons why the presence of a gun in the home is a risk factor for suicide. First is the surprising impulsivity of many suicide attempts. Guns are also so much more lethal than other methods. Most people who survive a suicide attempt do not go on to die by suicide, but only one in 10 people who attempt suicide by gun get that second chance."
The Truth About Suicide & Guns | Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence (http://www.bradycampaign.org/the-truth-about-suicide-guns)

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"Research shows a gun in the home makes a suicide three times more likely. There are a few reasons why the presence of a gun in the home is a risk factor for suicide. First is the surprising impulsivity of many suicide attempts. Guns are also so much more lethal than other methods. Most people who survive a suicide attempt do not go on to die by suicide, but only one in 10 people who attempt suicide by gun get that second chance."
The Truth About Suicide & Guns | Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence (http://www.bradycampaign.org/the-truth-about-suicide-guns)

I know what you mean. Just the other day, I was having a conversation with my gun and it told me the same thing. But, it also complained about how liberals are always blaming the guns for killing people. It asked me a very valid point. When, in history has a gun ever been convicted of committing a murder? You know, I could not answer that question.

But seriously? You think that if we get rid of guns, there won't be any more suicides? I guess by that reasoning, if we get rid of all cars, we will also get rid of all DUI's and all deaths by autos. If we get rid of all doctors, we will get rid of more deaths than are caused by guns, so lets do that. OH, and when you come back and tell me that doctors also save lives, I can say the same thing about guns.

"The CDC pursuant to President Obama issuing a decree to have them study this issue–they found that anywhere from 500,000 to three million times a year, guns are being used in self-defense. "

It is my theory, not scientific mind you, but just a theory that if we get rid of ALL liberals, we will have a safer society. It would also save billions, maybe trillions of bucks from the taxpayer, on liberal maintenance. Gun maintenance is cheaper than liberal maintenance. I bet if someone did a study on it, we could submit the idea to Oblunder for E.O. action. Hey the cost of the "red pill" has to be pretty cheap.

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"The CDC pursuant to President Obama issuing a decree to have them study this issue–they found that anywhere from 500,000 to three million times a year, guns are being used in self-defense. "


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Sounds like a personal problem to me. If you can't find something on the Internet, it's your problem. Don't make it mine.

Here are some key findings from the CDC report, “Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence,” released in June:

* Armed citizens are less likely to be injured by an attacker...

* Defensive uses of guns are common:
“Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year…in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008.”

* Mass shootings and accidental firearm deaths account for a small fraction of gun-related deaths, and both are declining (2010)

* Gun buyback/turn-in programs are “ineffective” in reducing crime:

* The vast majority of gun-related deaths are not homicides, but suicides: 61%

Just a summary, since I can't very well paste all the document.

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I know what you mean. Just the other day, I was having a conversation with my gun and it told me the same thing. But, it also complained about how liberals are always blaming the guns for killing people. It asked me a very valid point. When, in history has a gun ever been convicted of committing a murder? You know, I could not answer that question.

But seriously? You think that if we get rid of guns, there won't be any more suicides? I guess by that reasoning, if we get rid of all cars, we will also get rid of all DUI's and all deaths by autos. If we get rid of all doctors, we will get rid of more deaths than are caused by guns, so lets do that. OH, and when you come back and tell me that doctors also save lives, I can say the same thing about guns.

"The CDC pursuant to President Obama issuing a decree to have them study this issue–they found that anywhere from 500,000 to three million times a year, guns are being used in self-defense. "

It is my theory, not scientific mind you, but just a theory that if we get rid of ALL liberals, we will have a safer society. It would also save billions, maybe trillions of bucks from the taxpayer, on liberal maintenance. Gun maintenance is cheaper than liberal maintenance. I bet if someone did a study on it, we could submit the idea to Oblunder for E.O. action. Hey the cost of the "red pill" has to be pretty cheap.

Well stated.

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I read that 50% of the military personnel who made a claim of PSTD never left the states. Isn't an all volunteer military great.

Our Mental Health System is ineffective, Too many mental health workers/doctors are ineffective because they lack the skills or funds or both and/or laws prevent them from good decisions Families are forced to sit on the sidelines. Some families just kick their kids, sisters bothers, to the streets.

I read that the % of people with mental illness is much less compared to the % of people in the population who would cause harm . Indeed when you think about the cause(s) for violence gangs, robbery ,eliminating a spouse girlfriend/boyfriend etc etc

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I read that 50% of the military personnel who made a claim of PSTD never left the states. Isn't an all volunteer military great.

Our Mental Health System is ineffective, Too many mental health workers/doctors are ineffective because they lack the skills or funds or both and/or laws prevent them from good decisions Families are forced to sit on the sidelines. Some families just kick their kids, sisters bothers, to the streets.

I read that the % of people with mental illness is much less compared to the % of people in the population who would cause harm . Indeed when you think about the cause(s) for violence gangs, robbery ,eliminating a spouse girlfriend/boyfriend etc etc

I'd be interested in reading that. I doubt it is true, but still interesting.

How many folks would consider a violent criminal to be mentally normal? Most foks would consider anyone that is by nature, violent to be abnormal. Just my opinion.

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Sounds like a personal problem to me. If you can't find something on the Internet, it's your problem. Don't make it mine.

Here are some key findings from the CDC report, “Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence,” released in June:

* Armed citizens are less likely to be injured by an attacker...

* Defensive uses of guns are common:
“Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year…in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008.”

* Mass shootings and accidental firearm deaths account for a small fraction of gun-related deaths, and both are declining (2010)

* Gun buyback/turn-in programs are “ineffective” in reducing crime:

* The vast majority of gun-related deaths are not homicides, but suicides: 61%

Just a summary, since I can't very well paste all the document.

Why was "minorities are responsible for 80% of killings/shootings left out? Propaganda, can't show what a problem they really are.

I'd be interested in reading that. I doubt it is true, but still interesting.

How many folks would consider a violent criminal to be mentally normal? Most foks would consider anyone that is by nature, violent to be abnormal. Just my opinion.

What would we do with the minorities? Lock them ALL up as mentally ill? That would be racist...it would also be the best thing we could do for our society.

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Sounds like a personal problem to me. If you can't find something on the Internet, it's your problem. Don't make it mine.

Here are some key findings from the CDC report, “Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violence,” released in June:

* Armed citizens are less likely to be injured by an attacker...

* Defensive uses of guns are common:
“Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year…in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008.”

* Mass shootings and accidental firearm deaths account for a small fraction of gun-related deaths, and both are declining (2010)

* Gun buyback/turn-in programs are “ineffective” in reducing crime:

* The vast majority of gun-related deaths are not homicides, but suicides: 61%

Just a summary, since I can't very well paste all the document.The authors also say gun ownership might be good for defensive uses, but that benefit could be canceled out by the risk of suicide or homicide that comes with gun ownership. The depth of the relationship is unknown "and this is a sufficiently important question that it merits additional, careful exploration."

The study that gun-rights activists keep citing but completely misunderstand - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/01/16/the-study-that-gun-rights-activists-keep-citing-but-completely-misunderstand/)

Thanks for the research help.

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The authors also say gun ownership might be good for defensive uses, but that benefit could be canceled out by the risk of suicide or homicide that comes with gun ownership. The depth of the relationship is unknown "and this is a sufficiently important question that it merits additional, careful exploration."

The study that gun-rights activists keep citing but completely misunderstand - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/01/16/the-study-that-gun-rights-activists-keep-citing-but-completely-misunderstand/)

Thanks for the research help.

Wow, so you are saying that just by virtue of having a gun in your house, you will probably commit suicide or murder someone? I believe you are going to have a lot of people telling you that what you said is stupid.

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Wow, so you are saying that just by virtue of having a gun in your house, you will probably commit suicide or murder someone? I believe you are going to have a lot of people telling you that what you said is stupid.

And they wonder why we have no patience with them...some I wonder..."who cuts your meat for you"?

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Wow, so you are saying that just by virtue of having a gun in your house, you will probably commit suicide or murder someone? I believe you are going to have a lot of people telling you that what you said is stupid.I didn't write the report.

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I didn't write the report.

NO, you linked an opinion article.

On the other hand, this is a good reason to make it easier for gun purchases. More guns, more suicides, less liberals. Kind of a post-natal abortion of sorts. Why should everyone else work hard, just to coddle the weak anyway? That's the responsibility of the family, not the whole community, state, country. Time to cut back on spending money on the weak, if they don't want it.

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NO, you linked an opinion article.

On the other hand, this is a good reason to make it easier for gun purchases. More guns, more suicides, less liberals. Kind of a post-natal abortion of sorts. Why should everyone else work hard, just to coddle the weak anyway? That's the responsibility of the family, not the whole community, state, country. Time to cut back on spending money on the weak, if they don't want it.The study (available as a PDF) calls the defensive use of guns by crime victims "a common occurrence, although the exact number remains disputed." While it might be as high as 3 million defensive uses of guns each year, some scholars point to the much lower estimate of 108,000 times a year. "The variation in these numbers remains a controversy in the field," the study notes.

The quotes are from the report that you hold in high regard.

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NO, you linked an opinion article.

On the other hand, this is a good reason to make it easier for gun purchases. More guns, more suicides, less liberals. Kind of a post-natal abortion of sorts. Why should everyone else work hard, just to coddle the weak anyway? That's the responsibility of the family, not the whole community, state, country. Time to cut back on spending money on the weak, if they don't want it.

Exactly...why do we support half the country who collect some government benefit. Mostly women and minorities.

The study (available as a PDF) calls the defensive use of guns by crime victims "a common occurrence, although the exact number remains disputed." While it might be as high as 3 million defensive uses of guns each year, some scholars point to the much lower estimate of 108,000 times a year. "The variation in these numbers remains a controversy in the field," the study notes.

The quotes are from the report that you hold in high regard.

MOST crime goes unreported. Either because both parties are "nefarious" in nature, or they don't want to get involved in the hassles involved if they do report it.

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The study (available as a PDF) calls the defensive use of guns by crime victims "a common occurrence, although the exact number remains disputed." While it might be as high as 3 million defensive uses of guns each year, some scholars point to the much lower estimate of 108,000 times a year. "The variation in these numbers remains a controversy in the field," the study notes.

The quotes are from the report that you hold in high regard.

The report is from the CDC, and NO, I do not hold anything related to the government in "high regard." And you can put your so-called "lower estimate" that is unfounded and not researched or verified against their study which said 500K to 3 million. It is typical of liberals to distort anything that does not fit their agenda.

It just proves that the term "liberal" is an oxymoron. There is nothing liberal about the left, other than their liberal flexibility with the truth.

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The report is from the CDC, and NO, I do not hold anything related to the government in "high regard." And you can put your so-called "lower estimate" that is unfounded and not researched or verified against their study which said 500K to 3 million. It is typical of liberals to distort anything that does not fit their agenda.

It just proves that the term "liberal" is an oxymoron. There is nothing liberal about the left, other than their liberal flexibility with the truth.

Liberal spending of borrowed money on idiots who will never amount to anything.

The Rs are no better...

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The report is from the CDC, and NO, I do not hold anything related to the government in "high regard." And you can put your so-called "lower estimate" that is unfounded and not researched or verified against their study which said 500K to 3 million. It is typical of liberals to distort anything that does not fit their agenda.

It just proves that the term "liberal" is an oxymoron. There is nothing liberal about the left, other than their liberal flexibility with the truth.
It cost $38 to download the pdf report. Can I read your copy? Otherwise how one know what's actually in the report.

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It cost $38 to download the pdf report. Can I read your copy? Otherwise how one know what's actually in the report.

You want me to break the copyright law by sending you a copy? Of course, I got my PDF copy free, but still......:)

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It cost $38 to download the pdf report. Can I read your copy? Otherwise how one know what's actually in the report.

Many government numbers are massaged and seasonally adjusted right out of relevance.

Unemployment is supposedly derived from 60,000 phone surveys.

Anybody ever hear of anyone getting called?

Me neither...

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You want me to break the copyright law by sending you a copy? Of course, I got my PDF copy free, but still......:)

There's no copyright on government reports. Your taxes paid for the work. No reason not to share.

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You want me to break the copyright law by sending you a copy? Of course, I got my PDF copy free, but still......:)When I'm done reading a book I give it to my son. Am I breaking copyright law? I don't believe you read the report.

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When I'm done reading a book I give it to my son. Am I breaking copyright law? I don't believe you read the report.

YOu don't believe? Why would that matter to me? It is you that wish a copy of the report. It is you that doesn't know how to download it. Not my problem. I cut some parts of it out to post because we are not supposed to post the whole articles, documents, etc. I can't be responsible for your impotence.

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Deputies: CWP holder injures Spartanburg Co. nightclub shooting - wistv.com - Columbia, South Carolina (http://www.wistv.com/story/32308903/deputies-man-opened-fire-wounded-several-at-nightclub)

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And WHERE does 90% of the shooting occur? By minorities in the inner cities. You want to drastically cut back on crime? You need to deal with the minorities...soon to be majorities. They are the real cause of most of the violence. There were what, almost 1000 killings in the last year?

72 murders, 361 shootings in Chicago in June, according to CPD | abc7chicago.com (http://abc7chicago.com/news/more-than-70-murders-360-shootings-in-chicago-in-june/1409581/)

THIS is what's wrong with America yet we refuse to admit it. You want to do something about shootings...do something about the minorities. What we've been doing clearly isn't working.

You as a repub are the minority.

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I know what you mean. Just the other day, I was having a conversation with my gun and it told me the same thing. But, it also complained about how liberals are always blaming the guns for killing people. It asked me a very valid point. When, in history has a gun ever been convicted of committing a murder? You know, I could not answer that question.

But seriously? You think that if we get rid of guns, there won't be any more suicides? I guess by that reasoning, if we get rid of all cars, we will also get rid of all DUI's and all deaths by autos. If we get rid of all doctors, we will get rid of more deaths than are caused by guns, so lets do that. OH, and when you come back and tell me that doctors also save lives, I can say the same thing about guns.

"The CDC pursuant to President Obama issuing a decree to have them study this issue–they found that anywhere from 500,000 to three million times a year, guns are being used in self-defense. "

It is my theory, not scientific mind you, but just a theory that if we get rid of ALL liberals, we will have a safer society. It would also save billions, maybe trillions of bucks from the taxpayer, on liberal maintenance. Gun maintenance is cheaper than liberal maintenance. I bet if someone did a study on it, we could submit the idea to Oblunder for E.O. action. Hey the cost of the "red pill" has to be pretty cheap.

Motor vehicle traffic deaths

Number of deaths: 33,804
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.7

All firearm deaths

Number of deaths: 33,636
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.6

FastStats - Injuries (http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/injury.htm)

For those of you who are going to say "then ban the car", we need a car, we do not need a gun.

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YOu don't believe? Why would that matter to me? It is you that wish a copy of the report. It is you that doesn't know how to download it. Not my problem. I cut some parts of it out to post because we are not supposed to post the whole articles, documents, etc. I can't be responsible for your impotence.
Your report quotes came from news sources, the same as mine did. I gave you the source, Washington Post, and didn't pretend I had the report.
If I could find the report for free like you are pretending to do I would download it. If you found it for free why wouldn't you just give me the link.

I always see insults calling my ilk childlike. Yet it's the name calling, whining about what's fair and unfair and having something that you won't share that seems more childlike than anything else I see here.

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Motor vehicle traffic deaths

Number of deaths: 33,804
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.7

All firearm deaths

Number of deaths: 33,636
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.6

FastStats - Injuries (http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/injury.htm)

For those of you who are going to say "then ban the car", we need a car, we do not need a gun.

Number of firearms deaths committed by whites - 636
Number of firearms deaths committed by blacks/hispanics - 33,000

Deaths per 100,000 committed by whites - 0.6
Deaths per 100,000 committed by blacks/hispanics - 10

That's about the ratio.

Exactly WHERE/WHAT is the problem?

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"Research shows a gun in the home makes a suicide three times more likely. There are a few reasons why the presence of a gun in the home is a risk factor for suicide. First is the surprising impulsivity of many suicide attempts. Guns are also so much more lethal than other methods. Most people who survive a suicide attempt do not go on to die by suicide, but only one in 10 people who attempt suicide by gun get that second chance."
The Truth About Suicide & Guns | Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence (http://www.bradycampaign.org/the-truth-about-suicide-guns)

I will guess you've had a suicide in your family.
All these issues are very complex and we seek simple answers. There is no shortage of ways to kill yourself.
Things like cutting your wrist is a slow death and is viewed as a cry for help. Jumping off a building, jumping in front of a train or a car, driving your car into a wall-off a bridge. They even have a name for getting a cop to kill you-suicide by cop

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I will guess you've had a suicide in your family.
All these issues are very complex and we seek simple answers. There is no shortage of ways to kill yourself.
Things like cutting your wrist is a slow death and is viewed as a cry for help. Jumping off a building, jumping in front of a train or a car, driving your car into a wall-off a bridge. They even have a name for getting a cop to kill you-suicide by copgood guess
Not my immediate family but a cousin. There was no gun in the house, she hung herself.

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good guess
Not my immediate family but a cousin. There was no gun in the house, she hung herself.

We better outlaw rope, because it murdered someone.

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Number of firearms deaths committed by whites - 636
Number of firearms deaths committed by blacks/hispanics - 33,000

Deaths per 100,000 committed by whites - 0.6
Deaths per 100,000 committed by blacks/hispanics - 10

That's about the ratio.

Exactly WHERE/WHAT is the problem?

America is below one hundredth in murder rating by country and all those above it have strict gun control.

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We better outlaw rope, because it murdered someone.

That's how "they" think...or don't think.

America is below one hundredth in murder rating by country and all those above it have strict gun control.

A BETTER statistic would be to show the murder rate and the percent of the population that's nonwhite. I bet THAT ranking is close to the murder rate ranking. It's NOT the guns, it's the people who get them. Violent minorities do the majority of the killings.

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America is below one hundredth in murder rating by country and all those above it have strict gun control.List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate)

Sort by Rate----Look at the countries at the bottom of the list. These are western countries. We are in the middle of the list.

Show me where you got your statistics. Or is this going to be another "No" find it yourself, your lazy, I can't help it if ...blah,blah,blah

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List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate)

Sort by Rate----Look at the countries at the bottom of the list. These are western countries. We are in the middle of the list.

Show me where you got your statistics. Or is this going to be another "No" find it yourself, your lazy, I can't help it if ...blah,blah,blah

So...pacific islanders are the most "peaceful" in regard to murder rates, followed by Asians, Europeans, then comes the Americas, and finally, the MOST violent, Africans.

Of course the Africans and the Hispanics here in the US make our numbers rise to 10X what they'd be without them here. Hispanics and Africans are the most violent on the planet. Look at the map on the wiki page you posted the link to. So WHY are we bringing in more and more of them? You'd think we'd try to eliminate them. Kick them out, not ENCOURAGE them!

Africans are the MOST violent people on the planet. It's WHY they're poor! Poverty doesn't cause violence but violence DOES cause poverty.