Pool monitor

[sonny&karen]

Why is it the the pool monitors check 6 people sitting by the pool for ID but do not check 30 people in the pool. I ask she said that was the rules , so there could be 10 people in the pool that do not belong here. Dumb rule.

[Jim 9922]

Why is it the the pool monitors check 6 people sitting by the pool for ID but do not check 30 people in the pool. .

Two possible reasons:
1. It is easier.


2. When you are wet maybe you automatically become a Villager.


I vote for #1.:0000000000luvmyhors

[Jima64]

easy way to say they are doing some checking. Is it really going to remove a lot of non allowable use of the pool. Can it lead to confrontations?

[Chatbrat]

They've been doing this for years-all the non-residents hit water as soon as the monitor shows up.

[Shimpy]

Good policy. How many want to be inconvenienced to get out of the water, go to their chair and get out their ID?
If unauthorized users is a problem, which I doubt it is, then they could issue all residents a key to open the gate. This was done in a development in S. Florida I lived in and worked well.

[CFrance]

Why is it the the pool monitors check 6 people sitting by the pool for ID but do not check 30 people in the pool. I ask she said that was the rules , so there could be 10 people in the pool that do not belong here. Dumb rule.
For the same reason they won't pull you off of a pickle ball or tennis court in the middle of a game to show them your ID card. It would just be bad berries. Many more legitimate people would be hassled than illegitimate interlopers caught.

[Bogie Shooter]

Who has evidence that non-villagers are using the pools?

[Bogie Shooter]

Why is it the the pool monitors check 6 people sitting by the pool for ID but do not check 30 people in the pool. I ask she said that was the rules , so there could be 10 people in the pool that do not belong here. Dumb rule.

Are you guessing or do you know there were ten people?

[Topspinmo]

I'm sure there some freeloaders sneaking around. There ALWAYS are:pepper2::eclipsee_gold_cup:

[theorem painter]

I know it has been an issue at the Pimlico family pool. I over heard conversations between teenage girls who were laughing about sneaking in from Wildwood. They said that they just jump in the pool when they check ids. No one in the Rec Center appeared interested when I told them what I observed.

[Barefoot]

For the same reason they won't pull you off of a pickle ball or tennis court in the middle of a game to show them your ID card. It would just be bad berries. Many more legitimate people would be hassled than illegitimate interlopers caught. Yes, :agree: bad berries to make people leave the pool to check IDs. :girlneener:

[rubicon]

Good policy. How many want to be inconvenienced to get out of the water, go to their chair and get out their ID?
If unauthorized users is a problem, which I doubt it is, then they could issue all residents a key to open the gate. This was done in a development in S. Florida I lived in and worked well.

Good idea

[rubicon]

I know it has been an issue at the Pimlico family pool. I over heard conversations between teenage girls who were laughing about sneaking in from Wildwood. They said that they just jump in the pool when they check ids. No one in the Rec Center appeared interested when I told them what I observed.

Thank you. that indeed is the problem "we don't know what we don't know"

So testing is important. I once knew a Manger of Office Services that would place $.50 pieces behind office doors to determine if the janitors were cleaning behind the doors.

[vmcmillan1313@yahoo.com]

Everyone should be checked for ID. Make people get out of the pool to show it! Otherwise what's the point?

[Eugene Hite]

I've been here 11 years and all I hear are the inconsistencies of not obeying the "rules". A line
has to be drawn some where. Trying to be cute with someone's words :a040::a040:is no help either.

[TOMMY D]

Simple way to solve the in the water check is rubber wrist bans for members.

[dmorhome]

simple put a gate opener lock and use our gate cards to get in.Then the pool monitors can stay put.

[TandHSTAR@AOL.com]

There will always be people who try and get away with something, it's a challenge for them. Checking Id's won't deter these people. I don't think that it's a problem on the whole... checking ID for the most part works.

[bluedog103]

Why is it the the pool monitors check 6 people sitting by the pool for ID but do not check 30 people in the pool. I ask she said that was the rules , so there could be 10 people in the pool that do not belong here. Dumb rule.
How about if we have a volunteer from the neighborhood check id. Tag, you're it!

[Fanman]

If you're annoyed by pool monitors checking ID's on the deck only think about how annoyed you'd be if every time they came through you had to get out of the pool to show it.

[karostay]

Why is it the the pool monitors check 6 people sitting by the pool for ID but do not check 30 people in the pool. I ask she said that was the rules , so there could be 10 people in the pool that do not belong here. Dumb rule.
I don't think it's dumb at all
How upset would you have been If the pool monitor asked you to get out of the pool so they could check your Id

[karostay]

simple put a gate opener lock and use our gate cards to get in.Then the pool monitors can stay put.
One person with gate card opens gate 10 people walk in
That works

[bbbbbb]

Having moved in here, we find that all that is presented is not enforced. Kids who are from somewhere, laugh about being able to pee in the pool and laugh. I do get out and go to the bathroom, have you EVER SEEN ANYONE GET OUT AND GO TO THE BATHROOM? Never have.
My wife and I do that for sure, we get out.
Monitoring is getting very lax. Now we see where they are allowing trucks to park in driveways and drip oil, how nice, just like in LA right? How ugly and permanent, a big glob of black oil! But we have a lot of monitors, in very nice new vehicles driving around and basically not checking on anything. Another item, they like to meet in the village interior roads, park door to door and iwth the engines running engage in lengthy (10) minute conversations. It is sad what is degenerating here. I had to call in three times that a fan at the pool was tearing itself up and becoming a fire hazard. Getting a bit loose here folks.

[johnadams]

The system is not perfect and will not always catch all transgressors. This was a problem I experienced when I worked at Pimlico several years ago because of its location near 466. I don't thing it is as much of a problem at other pools.

Jack

[yabbadu]

Why is it the the pool monitors check 6 people sitting by the pool for ID but do not check 30 people in the pool. I ask she said that was the rules , so there could be 10 people in the pool that do not belong here. Dumb rule.

I would say "It's called common sense"

IMHO:spoken:

[John_W]

Having moved in here, we find that all that is presented is not enforced. Kids who are from somewhere, laugh about being able to pee in the pool and laugh. I do get out and go to the bathroom, have you EVER SEEN ANYONE GET OUT AND GO TO THE BATHROOM? Never have.
My wife and I do that for sure, we get out.
Monitoring is getting very lax. Now we see where they are allowing trucks to park in driveways and drip oil, how nice, just like in LA right?...

At the neighborhood pools no one under 30 is permitted, you must be at a family pool. If that's the case, they are usually co-located at a Rec Center. Have you considered going inside and reporting bad behavior to anyone of the employees? Otherwise, use your neighborhood pool if you don't want to be around children, that's what there for. At the neighborhood pools the bathrooms are constantly busy, I often have to wait for some to exit, but then again were all adults at a neighborhood pool.

Trucks parking in driveways dripping oil, it's hard to know what you're referring to since you leave out all details and TV is over 35 square miles in area. Are you talking about driveways at homes, in which case the homeowner should address that problem. What other driveways and trucks are you referring to? Once again you leave no details, and I've never been to LA, in fact I've never been to California. If you see a problem report it to neighborhood watch. 753-0550.

[John_W]

...How upset would you have been If the pool monitor asked you to get out of the pool so they could check your Id

All I can say is I wouldn't be upset at all. How hard is it to walk over to the ladder or steps, get out and go get your wallet and show it to the attendant. At least we would all know that everyone there are supposed to be there. What good are rules if they are not enforced because they can inconvenience those it's suppose to be protecting.

[Dzurinko]

I suggest everyone voice your concerns at the "Welcome Wednesday" meetings that are held every Wednesday (except 6 Jul) at 1100 in the customer service area in Lake Sumter Landing. All the Department heads are there along with residents that have concerns. The meetings only last about 30 minutes. The head of Recreation is there and it's the perfect forum. Talking about it on TOTV does nothing to get an issue fixed.

[OhioBuckeye]

Why is it the the pool monitors check 6 people sitting by the pool for ID but do not check 30 people in the pool. I ask she said that was the rules , so there could be 10 people in the pool that do not belong here. Dumb rule.

It is a dumb rule. To bad that rule doesn't apply when the Villages want to raise our tax, amenities, or anything that apply to running the Villages. They don't hesitate to ask the permanent residents for more money & then tell us they can't ask the Snow Birds for the same thing because it's the rules & they're not here to ask. What makes the difference if the people in the pool aren't convenient to ask for their ID's but it's more convenient to write, spend money for a stamp & waste time going to the post office to mail their increase to the snow birds. You might think my comment is dumb & not the same but if it's a positive or an asset for the bill collector (The Villages) it's OK, but if the ones in the pool are swimming at or expense it's OK for us to pay for them. It's always in The Villages favor!:spoken:

[justjim]

"If it's not broke, don't fix it". I sure don't think our pool monitoring system is broke just because a couple of teens sneak into a family pool. Unless they are causing a problem leave them alone. Over time the issue will take care of itself.

[OhioBuckeye]

All I can say is I wouldn't be upset at all. How hard is it to walk over to the ladder or steps, get out and go get your wallet and show it to the attendant. At least we would all know that everyone there are supposed to be there. What good are rules if they are not enforced because they can inconvenience those it's suppose to be protecting.

You're right John! When you get a bill from the Villages you don't tell the Villages if you want your money, come & get it. Besides how fair is it to me to pay for someone that might be in the pool that's from Wildwood or Leesburg. It's like our govt. it's illegal for a foreigner to be here but it's not for an illegal to swim at my expense.

[lmbryans]

Are you guessing or do you know there were ten people?
I've lived in the villages for years and have yet to meet someone who does not belong. Just enjoy life😍

[skip0358]

:popcorn:It is a dumb rule. To bad that rule doesn't apply when the Villages want to raise our tax, amenities, or anything that apply to running the Villages. They don't hesitate to ask the permanent residents for more money & then tell us they can't ask the Snow Birds for the same thing because it's the rules & they're not here to ask. What makes the difference if the people in the pool aren't convenient to ask for their ID's but it's more convenient to write, spend money for a stamp & waste time going to the post office to mail their increase to the snow birds. You might think my comment is dumb & not the same but if it's a positive or an asset for the bill collector (The Villages) it's OK, but if the ones in the pool are swimming at or expense it's OK for us to pay for them. It's always in The Villages favor!:spoken:

[golfing eagles]

It is a dumb rule. To bad that rule doesn't apply when the Villages want to raise our tax, amenities, or anything that apply to running the Villages. They don't hesitate to ask the permanent residents for more money & then tell us they can't ask the Snow Birds for the same thing because it's the rules & they're not here to ask. What makes the difference if the people in the pool aren't convenient to ask for their ID's but it's more convenient to write, spend money for a stamp & waste time going to the post office to mail their increase to the snow birds. You might think my comment is dumb & not the same but if it's a positive or an asset for the bill collector (The Villages) it's OK, but if the ones in the pool are swimming at or expense it's OK for us to pay for them. It's always in The Villages favor!:spoken:


You're 100% correct-----it's NOT the same

[Jima64]

All I can say is I wouldn't be upset at all. How hard is it to walk over to the ladder or steps, get out and go get your wallet and show it to the attendant. At least we would all know that everyone there are supposed to be there. What good are rules if they are not enforced because they can inconvenience those it's suppose to be protecting.

What if every time you were in the pool and had to get out and show your id? It could start getting inconvenient.

[FosterMomma]

It is a dumb rule. To bad that rule doesn't apply when the Villages want to raise our tax, amenities, or anything that apply to running the Villages. They don't hesitate to ask the permanent residents for more money & then tell us they can't ask the Snow Birds for the same thing because it's the rules & they're not here to ask. What makes the difference if the people in the pool aren't convenient to ask for their ID's but it's more convenient to write, spend money for a stamp & waste time going to the post office to mail their increase to the snow birds. You might think my comment is dumb & not the same but if it's a positive or an asset for the bill collector (The Villages) it's OK, but if the ones in the pool are swimming at or expense it's OK for us to pay for them. It's always in The Villages favor!:spoken:


I'm very interested in this...what is it that snowbirds don't pay for?

[Bogie Shooter]

It is a dumb rule. To bad that rule doesn't apply when the Villages want to raise our tax, amenities, or anything that apply to running the Villages. They don't hesitate to ask the permanent residents for more money & then tell us they can't ask the Snow Birds for the same thing because it's the rules & they're not here to ask. What makes the difference if the people in the pool aren't convenient to ask for their ID's but it's more convenient to write, spend money for a stamp & waste time going to the post office to mail their increase to the snow birds. You might think my comment is dumb & not the same but if it's a positive or an asset for the bill collector (The Villages) it's OK, but if the ones in the pool are swimming at or expense it's OK for us to pay for them. It's always in The Villages favor!:spoken:

What in the h^** are you talking about??

[Bogie Shooter]

You're right John! When you get a bill from the Villages you don't tell the Villages if you want your money, come & get it. Besides how fair is it to me to pay for someone that might be in the pool that's from Wildwood or Leesburg. It's like our govt. it's illegal for a foreigner to be here but it's not for an illegal to swim at my expense.

You really been here less than a year?

[joec3]

So what happens if someone gets caught?

[skip0358]

As for getting out of the neighborhood pool to have your pass scanned it's not like they come to the pool every hour to check on people. I've been their on some days and have never seen anyone check. As for the Family Pool IF that's such a BIG problem which I doubt go to a Wednesday meeting and voice your concerns. Maybe they could change the procedure and have everyone check in with the desk and be buzzed in. I've not seen this as a problem however.
As for the snow birds, I to would like to know what your referring to that they're not paying. The increases are across the board. We go up and so do they. If your referring to a renter then the owner pays the increase. ???

[Gerald]

Oh what a horrible thing! A person is using the pool and may not be living here. I say get your gun and shoot everyone in the pool. That way you are sure you will get the person who does not belong.
enjoy the pool the water is clean, never too many people. lots of seating.

[John_W]

What if every time you were in the pool and had to get out and show your id? It could start getting inconvenient.

I would estimate that 50% of the time I've been to the Tamarind Grove neighborhood pool no one has come by to check. The attendant for our pool is the front desk person from Sterling Hgts Rec Center. The other times that they did come and check, I was never checked more than once in a 2 or 3 hour stay. In a busy month I might go to the pool 4 or 5 times. Hard to be inconvenienced when you have to show your ID 2 or 3 times a month.

[golfing eagles]

Oh what a horrible thing! A person is using the pool and may not be living here. I say get your gun and shoot everyone in the pool. That way you are sure you will get the person who does not belong.
enjoy the pool the water is clean, never too many people. lots of seating.

A little bit of overkill.
You can't play "free" executive golf without showing ID
You can't use the inside Rec Center facilities without showing ID. Why should people use the pools without showing ID. It is not a financial argument, it probably costs less than a penny out of everyone's amenity fee to support non-resident swimmers, although we have no idea how many there are if they aren't caught. It is pride of ownership. When everyone pays to own a home here, pays the monthly fee, is part of a neighborhood, there is a true sense of community. You are much more likely to take care of your property and watch out for your neighbors. You are more likely to follow the rules and behave civilly. The same is not true of interlopers. The very fact that they showed up shows resistance to following the rules. Note the threads about littering, or speeding, or dirty restrooms at the pools. The majority of complaints are directed at the workmen driving the pick up trucks. I don't think the Villagers who also run a business here are doing the same thing.
As far as clean water, lots of seats and few people goes---it won't stay that way unless the rules are enforced----"If you build it, they will come"

[lizboopy55]

When we go we leave our Village ID on our chair I think that should be the rule I have been there when the monitor has showed up and people claim to have left it at home and they say OK don't forget it the next time BS I am not paying for outsiders to swim on our pools sorry if that sounds bad but we are having a lot of new places built NOT in the villages but very close by and there is a capacity limit at the
pools

[alancusa]

Why is it the the pool monitors check 6 people sitting by the pool for ID but do not check 30 people in the pool. I ask she said that was the rules , so there could be 10 people in the pool that do not belong here. Dumb rule.

Stupid system and rules. How about having to use an entry pass when entering so only priority members get in. 90 year old monitors aren't gonna debt it done.

[skip0358]

Gee guess I live in a different Villages. When I go to the pool we see basically the same people. If someone different shows up they're asked if they're new, where they live etc. We sort of Police our own. We had a guest one day and was actually asked by someone how old they were. So when in doubt ask. I do know when my Granddaughter is here and we go to the Family pool the attendant comes out often to check and has told the kids to stop ball tossing etc. I don't see what most are complaining about sorry.

[doctorknow]

Two possible reasons:
1. It is easier.


2. When you are wet maybe you automatically become a Villager.


I vote for #1.:0000000000luvmyhors
Yes the news travels fast among the non resident pool sneakers who know the rule. I have asked the monitors and one said it was a safety issue of asking them to get out of the pool ??? don't know why? I suppose it is a time issue more than anything.

[CindyNah1]

Why is it the the pool monitors check 6 people sitting by the pool for ID but do not check 30 people in the pool. I ask she said that was the rules , so there could be 10 people in the pool that do not belong here. Dumb rule.

It is my understanding they don't want to inconvenience those of us who are in the pool ( it is sometimes cold to get out ) anyway if you feel someone is there without ID, pick up the phone on the wall and report it. getting "upset' and not doing something about it is bad for your health. or just "let it go" :)

[theorem painter]

Gee guess I live in a different Villages. When I go to the pool we see basically the same people. If someone different shows up they're asked if they're new, where they live etc. We sort of Police our own. We had a guest one day and was actually asked by someone how old they were. So when in doubt ask. I do know when my Granddaughter is here and we go to the Family pool the attendant comes out often to check and has told the kids to stop ball tossing etc. I don't see what most are complaining about sorry.

It certainly is not a problem at every pool. As a previous poster mentioned, it is or has been a problem at the Pimlico family pool with teenagers sneaking in. It would solve the problem if passes were checked at the gate but that would certainly not be cost effective for The Villages.

[karostay]

It's amounts to a person doing their job as instructed...When they were hired
Let em Be if it bothers someone don't go to the pool simple

[Barefoot]

To bad that rule doesn't apply when the Villages want to raise our tax, amenities, or anything that apply to running the Villages. They don't hesitate to ask the permanent residents for more money & then tell us they can't ask the Snow Birds for the same thing because it's the rules & they're not here to ask.
What? Seasonal residents pay amenities, garbage, taxes, etc., when they're not in residence.
Seriously, what the heck are you talking about?

[bbbbbb]

We have friends who live outside the Villages, close by. They are happy that living close by they can have all the items offered by the villages and do not have to pay for it. Yes, we see many violations, unfortunately, it is so obvious the great place generated here for adults is probably not going to last, the monitors do not monitor. We see Rec Center managers who just sit around and bs with their friends, we see kids drive in from outside and joke about now is a good time to sneak in, we see people who violate rules on speeding this is very common. We see people in fancy cars with Villages sign on door, cruising around and burning gas and driving right by a violation that is blatant. Too bad this can happen.

[Bogie Shooter]

It certainly is not a problem at every pool. As a previous poster mentioned, it is or has been a problem at the Pimlico family pool with teenagers sneaking in. It would solve the problem if passes were checked at the gate but that would certainly not be cost effective for The Villages.

Which gate?

[Bogie Shooter]

We have friends who live outside the Villages, close by. They are happy that living close by they can have all the items offered by the villages and do not have to pay for it. Yes, we see many violations, unfortunately, it is so obvious the great place generated here for adults is probably not going to last, the monitors do not monitor. We see Rec Center managers who just sit around and bs with their friends, we see kids drive in from outside and joke about now is a good time to sneak in, we see people who violate rules on speeding this is very common. We see people in fancy cars with Villages sign on door, cruising around and burning gas and driving right by a violation that is blatant. Too bad this can happen.
You have friends that are breaking the rules? Shame......on you.
Driving in fancy cars, no what is that all about?

[theorem painter]

Which gate?

I meant the gate at the pool.

[redwitch]

People on pools are wet. Wet people have wet feet. Wet feet create a risk of slipping on dry land. Folks who slip and fall because they had to get out of a pool to show an ID card are apt to sue. TV does not like lawsuits, not even a chance of one. Ergo, you be in pool, you stay in pool. Plain and simple.

[mary4471]

I get checked at pool and rec centers more often than elderly residents. There are 55 year old residents here and we should get the same respect as those older than us.

[Chatbrat]

how about license plate scanners @ the pools , community watch would know which vehicle is not registered to a Villages resident

[John_W]

how about license plate scanners @ the pools , community watch would know which vehicle is not registered to a Villages resident

Would not work, most pool users either walk to the pool or drive their golf cart.

[Bogie Shooter]

This topic has been discussed many times before, usually because of a single incident or someone hearing a rumor.
Do you really think the issue is so big to warrant spending thousands of dollars to fix something that is not broken?
Most of the posts on these threads are repetitive.
This too shall pass................

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[jimmemac]

I do think this is a problem at times in almost all of the pools-easy solution that we could probably live with; is once a month on a random basis the monitor would check everyone, even those in the pool or sleeping. This would be cost effective and would not be an inconvenience that we couldn't live with.

[DReifinger]

I don't like when they check and some people don't have theirs and they say...remember it next time. No, go get it. I moved here for rules and monitoring. That's what keeps this place great.