View Full Version : Another one....with guns...
kstew43
07-08-2016, 02:21 PM
A 62-year-old Village of Duval man died of an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head in a Fourth of July incident at his home.....
It has to be the heat.....making people go crazy.....
goodtimesintv
07-08-2016, 02:58 PM
A 62-year-old Village of Duval man died of an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head in a Fourth of July incident at his home.....
It has to be the heat.....making people go crazy.....
And once again, the inanimate object, not the ill-minded person, kills.
:ohdear: :ohdear: :ohdear:
Jima64
07-08-2016, 03:21 PM
It is so easy to forget how dangerous a gun is when holding it for cleaning or whatever reason. JUst so dangerous to not be completely aware. Sorry to hear about this accident.
Chazz
07-08-2016, 04:03 PM
...Sorry to hear about this accident.
I thought it was suicide!
John_W
07-08-2016, 04:18 PM
Doesn't read like an accident;
A 62-year-old Village of Duval man died of an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head in a Fourth of July incident at his home in the Double Palm Villas.
Multiple Sumter County Sheriff’s Office deputies responded to the home on Bayberry Court at about 9 p.m. after receiving a call alerting them to an “armed and dangerous person.”
A woman told a 911 dispatcher that a man with a loaded firearm had threatened to kill her. She fled the home.
When deputies arrived on the scene, they found the man had shot himself in the head with a .40-caliber handgun.
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
07-08-2016, 08:04 PM
It is so easy to forget how dangerous a gun is when holding it for cleaning or whatever reason. JUst so dangerous to not be completely aware. Sorry to hear about this accident.
Once the bullets are removed the only way for it to be dangerous is to hit someone over the head with it.
I never understood the "I was cleaning it and it went off." statement. Guns don't "go off". The only way for them to go off is to pull the trigger.
The first thing you do if you're going to clean your gun is to remove the ammunition. If it's a revolver all you need to do is to remove the bullets from the cylinder. If it's a semi automatic, you remove the magazine and clear the chamber. Once you do that the gan cannot fire.
I've been taught to treat every gun as if it is loaded. Even if you unload it and lay it down on a table or hand it to someone else, when you get it back check the magazine and clear the chamber.
And I agree. This was a suicide not an accident.
kcrazorbackfan
07-08-2016, 08:16 PM
It is so easy to forget how dangerous a gun is when holding it for cleaning or whatever reason. JUst so dangerous to not be completely aware. Sorry to hear about this accident.
Accident? A self-inflicted gun shot is not an accident. Not the weapons fault; it did not turn itself toward the persons head, it did not pull the trigger on its own.
Miles42
07-10-2016, 08:18 AM
What don't you get about Suicide. Not an accident.
outlaw
07-10-2016, 08:48 AM
Guns kill <10,000 per year. Guns protect over 100,000 victims per year.
Smoking kills >400,000 per year.
rubicon
07-10-2016, 09:57 AM
The thread is about a person who committed suicide with a gun. It could have been a knife, a rope, a pill, a cop (cop suicide) a car, a jump out a tall building, a walk in the ocean. My best boyhood friend committed suicide with a gun at the age of 35. There was absolutely nothing anyone could do to stop him from self destruction.
It should be obvious by now that our society is so backward when it comes to the issue of mental health needs. Most people are back in the dark ages on this issue and those who immediately view guns as the problem miss the issue altogether.
I also know of a guy who used a knife to his neck to end is life.
Bonnevie
07-10-2016, 10:04 AM
only my opinion but I think the presence of a gun makes an impulsive decision more likely to achieve the result. I imagine a knife would do it, but I suspect less people could go thru with it.
Topspinmo
07-10-2016, 10:28 AM
Once the bullets are removed the only way for it to be dangerous is to hit someone over the head with it.
I never understood the "I was cleaning it and it went off." statement. Guns don't "go off". The only way for them to go off is to pull the trigger.
The first thing you do if you're going to clean your gun is to remove the ammunition. If it's a revolver all you need to do is to remove the bullets from the cylinder. If it's a semi automatic, you remove the magazine and clear the chamber. Once you do that the gan cannot fire.
I've been taught to treat every gun as if it is loaded. Even if you unload it and lay it down on a table or hand it to someone else, when you get it back check the magazine and clear the chamber.
And I agree. This was a suicide not an accident.
I agree who cleans loaded gun!
Topspinmo
07-10-2016, 10:29 AM
only my opinion but I think the presence of a gun makes an impulsive decision more likely to achieve the result. I imagine a knife would do it, but I suspect less people could go thru with it.
Don't buy guns to clean potato's with.
Bonnevie
07-10-2016, 10:38 AM
Don't buy guns to clean potato's with.
I don't understand this. I assume people buy guns thinking of using them to protect themselves from others. I simply believe the presence of a gun in the home might make someone who is drunk, or overly upset do something impulsive as what may have occurred in this case.
tedquick
07-10-2016, 12:54 PM
If a person chooses to end their life they are going to end it, gun or no gun. I have known a number of people over the decades who have ended their lives and each one chose their own method. A pistol, a shot gun, a rope, a plastic bag, a bridge abutment and these are just off the top of my head.
outlaw
07-10-2016, 05:18 PM
only my opinion but I think the presence of a gun makes an impulsive decision more likely to achieve the result. I imagine a knife would do it, but I suspect less people could go thru with it.
Ever hear of a razor blade to the wrist?
Shimpy
07-10-2016, 05:25 PM
Ever hear of a razor blade to the wrist?
I wouldn't want the pain........I'd just jump in front of an 18 wheeler on I75 if I was so inclined.
Fredster
07-10-2016, 05:41 PM
only my opinion but I think the presence of a gun makes an impulsive decision more likely to achieve the result. I imagine a knife would do it, but I suspect less people could go thru with it.
iMO It seems that there are a lot of things readily
available that a person could use to commit suicide.
Autos, bridges, lakes, rivers, tall buildings,
trains, traffic, rope etc, etc.
Fredster
07-10-2016, 05:51 PM
I don't understand this. I assume people buy guns thinking of using them to protect themselves from others. I simply believe the presence of a gun in the home might make someone who is drunk, or overly upset do something impulsive as what may have occurred in this case.
Hunting, target shooting, collecting, are some
other reasons besides personal protection for gun purchases.
People that are drunk, quite often kill themselves
and others while under the influence,
and a gun isn't even in the equation.
dbussone
07-10-2016, 06:56 PM
iMO It seems that there are a lot of things readily
available that a person could use to commit suicide.
Autos, bridges, lakes, rivers, tall buildings,
trains, traffic, rope etc, etc.
Prescribed drugs, assisted suicide, etc. You are quite correct Fredster. We could go on and on.
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dbussone
07-10-2016, 07:00 PM
I wouldn't want the pain........I'd just jump in front of an 18 wheeler on I75 if I was so inclined.
Ohh! I've seen the outcome. I wish people would think of their surviving friends and family before they commit suicide. By itself, suicide is terrible. Add a terrible method to a terrible event and you can doubly traumatize a family for life.
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kcrazorbackfan
07-10-2016, 07:43 PM
.....just take a swim in Lake Sumter (gator bait)
Jima64
07-10-2016, 09:50 PM
Ban the booze that numbs the brain into thinking it will be okay to do it.
Barefoot
07-10-2016, 10:12 PM
?....I simply believe the presence of a gun in the home might make someone who is drunk, or overly upset do something impulsive as what may have occurred in this case.
I see your point. Suicide is sometimes an impulsive act.
Railcruiser
07-10-2016, 10:36 PM
I live around the corner and this is the first I've heard. Do sad and chances are we kne him. Did they release a name. Hope the women is now safe too
outlaw
07-11-2016, 07:20 AM
I don't understand this. I assume people buy guns thinking of using them to protect themselves from others. I simply believe the presence of a gun in the home might make someone who is drunk, or overly upset do something impulsive as what may have occurred in this case.
How does an inanimate object "make" a person do something? That's like saying a car capable of going 100 mph "makes" people speed. Maybe you should place the blame on the alcohol. Of course, the alcohol didn't "make" him drink it. But it did make him drunk.
Chatbrat
07-11-2016, 11:37 AM
As long as it isn't hard to clean up
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