So many faded, peeling & ugly street signs.

[ColdNoMore]

So what's up with that?

It has become very obvious, that an awful lot of street signs will/should be replaced soon.

Given that many of these aren't that old, I'm curious as to the story behind it.

I don't know if the developer was responsible for sourcing these signs, or since they are actually public roads the county did them, they are certainly failing pretty miserably.

The peeling and fading of the letters and numbers, with a lot of them falling off or hanging, has become quite embarrassing in my mind.

For the last couple of years I've seen them deteriorate at an accelerated rate and while every so often I might see similar problems in other parts of the state, nothing on this scale has ever caught my eye.

In other words, the excuse of "we live in Florida and the sun shortens their lives" doesn't really explain it.

My guess is that whomever was responsible for them, simply went after the cheapest price and we are now seeing the result of that decision.

The old "you usually get what you pay for" is what runs through my mind.

The next time you're driving around, start noticing how many of them that are a lot less than 10 years old are really in poor shape.

Comments?

[champion6]

You need to be specific regarding the locations of these signs. After all, TV stretches into 3 counties. Each jurisdiction has its own budget and priorities.

[SouthOfTheBorder]

So what's up with that?

It has become very obvious, that an awful lot of street signs will/should be replaced soon.

Given that many of these aren't that old, I'm curious as to the story behind it.

I don't know if the developer was responsible for sourcing these signs, or since they are actually public roads the county did them, they are certainly failing pretty miserably.

The peeling and fading of the letters and numbers, with a lot of them falling off or hanging, has become quite embarrassing in my mind.

For the last couple of years I've seen them deteriorate at an accelerated rate and while every so often I might see similar problems in other parts of the state, nothing on this scale has ever caught my eye.

In other words, the excuse of "we live in Florida and the sun shortens their lives" doesn't really explain it.

My guess is that whomever was responsible for them, simply went after the cheapest price and we are now seeing the result of that decision.

The old "you usually get what you pay for" is what runs through my mind.

The next time you're driving around, start noticing how many of them that are a lot less than 10 years old are really in poor shape.

Comments?

Where :confused:
Thanks
Don

[golf2140]

Another D

[ColdNoMore]

You need to be specific regarding the locations of these signs. After all, TV stretches into 3 counties. Each jurisdiction has its own budget and priorities.

Where :confused:
Thanks
Don

Almost anywhere that is north of 466A and south of 466, a person that is paying even a modicum of attention will notice a large number of ratty signs.

North of 466 is older and yet a rough approximation tells me that the signs are wearing better, but there are still more poor ones than would be expected.

Here's an idea, let's let this thread run a few days and those reading it start paying attention to every single street sign they see and then come back and state that they don't see a higher % of signs that are looking pretty poor than there should be given their age?

Or are y'all expecting me to drive around and take a plethora of photo's proving my point, that some would still argue with? :loco:

As I said in my original post, I don't know who is responsible for the signs, but I will bet right now that if it is the developer the usual suspects will quickly jump in and say there's hardly any that are failing.

Wanna bet? ;)

[ColdNoMore]

Another D

Please explain. :confused:

[NYGUY]

....Or are y'all expecting me to drive around and take a plethora of photo's....

Yes!!

[ColdNoMore]

Yes!!

Fugetaboutit. :p

[KittyKat]

I have noticed them in my neighborhood/Village of Amelia, which was built in 2007. They are metal and you can hardly see the names on some of them. Also, on both ends of my street they planted trees right next to the street signs, which are on only one side of the street. :sigh:

[Jima64]

everyone should adopt a sign and take care of it.

[Bogie Shooter]

Almost anywhere that is north of 466A and south of 466, a person that is paying even a modicum of attention will notice a large number of ratty signs.

North of 466 is older and yet a rough approximation tells me that the signs are wearing better, but there are still more poor ones than would be expected.

Here's an idea, let's let this thread run a few days and those reading it start paying attention to every single street sign they see and then come back and state that they don't see a higher % of signs that are looking pretty poor than there should be given their age?

Or are y'all expecting me to drive around and take a plethora of photo's proving my point, that some would still argue with? :loco:

As I said in my original post, I don't know who is responsible for the signs, but I will bet right now that if it is the developer the usual suspects will quickly jump in and say there's hardly any that are failing.

Wanna bet? ;)

I suggest you contact the following. Sam has publically stated that if you see something that needs attention let them know. (they cannot be everywhere). Give them a call.
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The District Property Management Department is responsible for upholding the aesthetic, physical and environmental assets of the District by maintaining the District’s physical assets and infrastructure.

Sam Wartinbee, Director
sam.wartinbee@districtgov.org

Main Office
1071 Canal Street
The Villages, FL 32162

Phone: 352-753-4022
Fax: 352-753-4296


Business Hours:
8am to 5pm, EST
Monday – Friday

[asianthree]

it easy easier when you make a blanket statement saying so many signs are fading if you could just list a couple so we can get an idea of what you're talking about.

[ColdNoMore]

it easy easier when you make a blanket statement saying so many signs are fading if you could just list a couple so we can get an idea of what you're talking about.

I respect your comment (and you), but the list is so long (in my mind) I wouldn't even know where to begin.

In spite of NYGuy's request of taking photos, I might just do it anyway and post some in the next few days.

In the meantime, I encourage everyone reading this thread to really start looking at street signs and then post on their observations.

Thnx. :)

[outlaw]

I suggest you contact the following. Sam has publically stated that if you see something that needs attention let them know. (they cannot be everywhere). Give them a call.
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The District Property Management Department is responsible for upholding the aesthetic, physical and environmental assets of the District by maintaining the District’s physical assets and infrastructure.

Sam Wartinbee, Director
sam.wartinbee@districtgov.org

Main Office
1071 Canal Street
The Villages, FL 32162

Phone: 352-753-4022
Fax: 352-753-4296


Business Hours:
8am to 5pm, EST
Monday – Friday

WHAT! Community watch drives by my house at least 3 times per day. How about giving a clipboard to these guys and tell them to look at these things and write them down?

[outlaw]

I'm too busy taking pictures of speeding golf carts.

[ColdNoMore]

I'm too busy taking pictures of speeding golf carts.

OK, now that's funny! :clap2:

[dewilson58]

Fading, peeling, ugly..............sounds like me.

[Gpsma]

First world problems

[looneycat]

couldn't care less about a nonissue

[Marathon Man]

Aren't the street signs owned and maintained by the county?

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

After reading this post, drove from my house in Silver Lake, over the bridge, through Spanish Springs Town Square , down Main St, down Del Mar to Rio Grande and up Rio Grande to Avenida Central and through a couple of villages while paying attention to the street signs. I didn't see one that look bad. They all look fine to me.
Where are these signs that you'r talking about?

[Topspinmo]

Some may just need the mildew washed off.

[graciegirl]

After reading this post, drove from my house in Silver Lake, over the bridge, through Spanish Springs Town Square , down Main St, down Del Mar to Rio Grande and up Rio Grande to Avenida Central and through a couple of villages while paying attention to the street signs. I didn't see one that look bad. They all look fine to me.
Where are these signs that you'r talking about?

She (op) must work for Top of the World. I don't see any either. What a headline. Our collective homes all went down in value.

[Bogie Shooter]

I suggest you contact the following. Sam has publically stated that if you see something that needs attention let them know. (they cannot be everywhere). Give them a call.
-----------------------------
The District Property Management Department is responsible for upholding the aesthetic, physical and environmental assets of the District by maintaining the District’s physical assets and infrastructure.

Sam Wartinbee, Director
sam.wartinbee@districtgov.org

Main Office
1071 Canal Street
The Villages, FL 32162

Phone: 352-753-4022
Fax: 352-753-4296


Business Hours:
8am to 5pm, EST
Monday – Friday

WHAT! Community watch drives by my house at least 3 times per day. How about giving a clipboard to these guys and tell them to look at these things and write them down?

Just once a positive post would be nice..................

[spring_chicken]

After reading this post, drove from my house in Silver Lake, over the bridge, through Spanish Springs Town Square , down Main St, down Del Mar to Rio Grande and up Rio Grande to Avenida Central and through a couple of villages while paying attention to the street signs. I didn't see one that look bad. They all look fine to me.
Where are these signs that you'r talking about?

Answered in post #5.

[2BNTV]

What I put on my survey was street signs should be staggered so one could see to side street sign, to ensure making a proper turn.

I don't have a specific area I'm taking about as they are too many all over TV.

[Cedwards38]

Aren't the street signs owned and maintained by the county?

That's what I think. Road maintenance, including street signs, belong to the respective county government.

[ColdNoMore]

And more....

[ColdNoMore]

Yes, even more....

[dewilson58]

Yep, some cracking.

Good news..............all very readable.

Now what should be talk about?

[ColdNoMore]

Yep.....

[Fredster]

Yes, even more....

What seems to be happening is the adhesive backed
vinyl sign material is failing due to weather exposure.
The material is not a forever material and has a
variable useful life depending on the
intensity of weather exposure.
OP you might be better off finding out what dept
is responsible for maintenance of signs and contacting them.
They might appreciate a list of locations with your photos.
Good luck!

[Fredster]

Now for those that are really pizzed that I found so many and proved my point, in such a short trip, I offer the following excuses for you (pick as many as apply). :D

1. You haven't spent 40 years in an industry that requires a honed sense of observation of things that are only minutely different, haven't become very good at that sense of observation and therefore don't really notice things like this.

2. You live in an area that is predominately black lettering on white backgrounds and are going too fast past the green signs, to be able to discern their actual condition.

3. You haven't seen an optometrist in a while and your glasses are a little too weak (think the little old lady in My Cousin Vinnie).

4. You are loathe to criticize anything having to do with anything, regarding The Villages.


Thanks. :waving:

None of the above, even though The Villages is not perfect,
I see way too many things all around that are maintained
in a first rate manner.
I have bought vinyl material meant for exterior use and I do
question your assumption that weathering failure
is a sign of buying cheap.
Florida weather provides a pretty extreme environment for any sign material.
Plus adhesives used could vary in quality.
Maybe after 40 years a habit of looking for fault could be at work.

[ColdNoMore]

None of the above, even though The Villages is not perfect,
I see way too many things all around that are maintained
in a first rate manner.

Loooong sigh. :sigh:

What does one have to do with another?

I too think this place has, overall and in general, the most magnificent landscaping of anywhere in the world.

That's one of the reasons I moved here.

BUT, I also have no problem telling the truth and pointing out problems that do exist.



Florida weather provides a pretty extreme environment for any sign material.
Plus adhesives used could vary in quality.
So why is it only certain signs are prematurely failing and that all seem to have the same attributes I mentioned above?





Maybe after 40 years a habit of looking for fault could be at work.
Orrrrrrr......... ;)

I vote for the latter. :D

[Bogie Shooter]

Yes, even more....

Why not send these pics to Sam?

[Bogie Shooter]

What seems to be happening is the adhesive backed
vinyl sign material is failing due to weather exposure.
The material is not a forever material and has a
variable useful life depending on the
intensity of weather exposure.
OP you might be better off finding out what dept
is responsible for maintenance of signs and contacting them.
They might appreciate a list of locations with your photos.
Good luck!

See post #4