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Guest
07-18-2016, 02:35 PM
When you start almost all your statements with "I" watch out. He has no plan but "I".

Guest
07-18-2016, 02:45 PM
When you start almost all your statements with "I" watch out. He has no plan but "I".

It is also about $$$$. This grifter will make off like a bandit from his campaign.

Guest
07-18-2016, 03:11 PM
He can't be the first one, Obama was the first one:BigApplause: thank you, thank you! Please hold the applause :D

Guest
07-18-2016, 04:30 PM
When you start almost all your statements with "I" watch out. He has no plan but "I".

Apparently you haven't ever listened to Obama's speeches. Even now, it is always "I" did this and "I" accomplished that.

Typical desperate liberal, grasping at anything.

Guest
07-18-2016, 04:31 PM
It is also about $$$$. This grifter will make off like a bandit from his campaign.

Better that than making millions off of a fake charity. Ring any Clinton bells for ya?

Guest
07-18-2016, 05:02 PM
Apparently you haven't ever listened to Obama's speeches. Even now, it is always "I" did this and "I" accomplished that.

Typical desperate liberal, grasping at anything.

But you have. I see said the blind man. Here is the speech he gave at the memorial for Dallas police officers. Please point out where he said I did this, and I accomplished that.

Full Transcript of President Obama's Speech at Dallas Police Memorial - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/full-transcript-president-obamas-speech-dallas-police-memorial/story?id=40521153)

Guest
07-18-2016, 05:16 PM
When you start almost all your statements with "I" watch out. He has no plan but "I".

Nice Try !

Obama uses the word I so often that the media conduct a count each time he speaks .

His favorite words " I , Me , MY , Mine " .

You should be ashamed to put forth such a weak argument .

Guest
07-18-2016, 07:07 PM
Nice Try !

Obama uses the word I so often that the media conduct a count each time he speaks .

His favorite words " I , Me , MY , Mine " .

You should be ashamed to put forth such a weak argument .

Exactly!

Guest
07-18-2016, 10:18 PM
Lots of Grumpy old ladies on here today . They must be getting very worried that Mr. Hillary is in trouble .

Especially that old girl called Cold No More .

Guest
07-19-2016, 08:32 AM
:BigApplause::BigApplause::BigApplause:He can't be the first one, Obama was the first one:BigApplause: thank you, thank you! Please hold the applause :D

Guest
07-19-2016, 09:52 AM
No President in history as referred to himself more in his public speaking and interviews than the " skinny Professor " / Lecturer In-Chief " .

Guest
07-19-2016, 10:24 AM
No President in history as referred to himself more in his public speaking and interviews than the " skinny Professor " / Lecturer In-Chief " .

:agree:

You won't hear any argument from the left on that. The proof is blatantly in EVERY speech he makes.

Guest
07-19-2016, 10:49 AM
He is the original " Yada Yada Yada " CEO !

Guest
07-19-2016, 03:32 PM
Nice Try !

Obama uses the word I so often that the media conduct a count each time he speaks .

His favorite words " I , Me , MY , Mine " .

You should be ashamed to put forth such a weak argument .

You wouldn't know the truth if it hit you in the head.

Guest
07-19-2016, 03:45 PM
You wouldn't know the truth if it hit you in the head.

So tell us all please ------- explain under how system just how any elected president could become the dictator that you claim Trump would become .

This should be of interest and insightful to all of us members of
" the great unwashed " .

Guest
07-19-2016, 03:48 PM
You wouldn't know the truth if it hit you in the head.

Wow ! What constructive phraseology and use of the Kings English .
You must have at least one degree in Literature with that demonstrated mastery words !

Very original and spot on I say !!

Guest
07-19-2016, 03:49 PM
Oh -- by the way -- pour yourself another drink it`s nearly 5PM .

Guest
07-19-2016, 04:29 PM
Nice Try !

Obama uses the word I so often that the media conduct a count each time he speaks .

His favorite words " I , Me , MY , Mine " .

You should be ashamed to put forth such a weak argument .

Nonsense. Another biased opinion.

Guest
07-19-2016, 04:30 PM
Nonsense. Another biased opinion.

You silly girl !!

Guest
07-19-2016, 05:37 PM
Lots of Grumpy old ladies on here today . They must be getting very worried that Mr. Hillary is in trouble .

Especially that old girl called Cold No More .

I'm so in your head...I own your azz. :1rotfl:


CNM

Guest
07-19-2016, 05:47 PM
I'm so in your head...I own your azz. :1rotfl:


CNM

I guarantee that I could buy your sorry old azz several times over and hardly miss the funds .

Guest
07-19-2016, 06:02 PM
Nonsense. Another biased opinion.

Actually, he is correct. It's been speculated as to how many times per speech he uses the words "I, me, my."

Guest
07-19-2016, 06:06 PM
When you start almost all your statements with "I" watch out. He has no plan but "I".

You are confused....the "I" me, guy is in the WH now!

Guest
07-19-2016, 06:06 PM
I guarantee that I could buy your sorry old azz several times over and hardly miss the funds .

Yeah, suuuure.


If you have to try and compare, you've already lost. But hey, make it worth my while and I would gladly give up my real identity to take your money.


So either put up...or shut up. ;)


I so OWN your ignorant azz. :1rotfl:




CNM

Guest
07-19-2016, 06:06 PM
I guarantee that I could buy your sorry old azz several times over and hardly miss the funds .

first bull $hitter doesn't stand a chance!

Guest
07-19-2016, 06:09 PM
I guarantee that I could buy your sorry old azz several times over and hardly miss the funds .

You're too chicken$hit to even use your stage name in this forum, so I'm sure you're not lying about how 'rich' you are either.

Riiiiiight. :1rotfl:


CNM

Guest
07-19-2016, 11:49 PM
Well the AH we now have has so many attempts to by pass congress he has set a record.

Guest
07-20-2016, 03:51 AM
Well the unfortunate fact of the matter is that they both belong to the me generation. It is also surprising that both of these guys given their educational backgrounds and chosen professions are not better, inspiring or convincing speakers. And I might add Hillary does no better.

Personal Best Regards:

Guest
07-20-2016, 04:40 AM
Well the unfortunate fact of the matter is that they both belong to the me generation. It is also surprising that both of these guys given their educational backgrounds and chosen professions are not better, inspiring or convincing speakers. And I might add Hillary does no better.

Personal Best Regards:

:agree: But, I will say that Donald Jr did a great job with his speech last night. I can see a future for that guy. If he has the tenacity of his father, he would do very well in politics.

Guest
07-20-2016, 06:58 AM
Make America Great Again!
Who doesn't want that? Are you aware how scared the Democratic Clinton Party is?
They are paying people to walk the streets to talk to the homeless areas, black communities, Hispanic communities, Asian communities and Prisons actually giving out FREE handouts to them to try to make sure they get out and vote. That's what Crooked Hillary Clinton is all about, buying her way into the White House. She has to pretend she cares about these people to get their votes. She will bus them to the polls in Nov.. Exactly what Obama did to win, no regard for the money spent to do this.
To you Democrats, she's a liar, cheating, backstabbing criminal. If you continue to support her you are actually an accomplice to her crimes. If you think she is cute because she might get away with what she has done you may be in for a surprise. And hopefully under the Donald J. Trump administration, the cases against her will be opened up again and she will be sent to prison where she belongs. She is not above the law just like Martha Stewart was not when she lied to the FBI.
:22yikes::22yikes::22yikes::22yikes:

Guest
07-20-2016, 07:04 AM
'Make America Great Again' is simply a dog whistle for.....'Make America White Again.'

Those ignorant enough to support Chump, think this is just another reality show and have given no thought as to what would happen should he be elected.

Not that it could ever happen of course, because there are still too many decent Americans to ever let that happen. :thumbup:


CNM

Guest
07-20-2016, 07:12 AM
So tell us all please ------- explain under how system just how any elected president could become the dictator that you claim Trump would become .

This should be of interest and insightful to all of us members of
" the great unwashed " .

"So tell us all please ------- explain under how system just how any elected president could become the dictator that you claim Trump would become ."
,
First read your statement "how system" second study history
, if you are capable.

Guest
07-20-2016, 07:13 AM
Wow ! What constructive phraseology and use of the Kings English .
You must have at least one degree in Literature with that demonstrated mastery words !

Very original and spot on I say !!

Thank you

Guest
07-20-2016, 07:18 AM
:agree: But, I will say that Donald Jr did a great job with his speech last night. I can see a future for that guy. If he has the tenacity of his father, he would do very well in politics.

He didn't read it off a teleprompter did he? But wait one second and trump will change his mind again. This is your biggest problem he tells you one thing then says another.

Guest
07-20-2016, 07:28 AM
"So tell us all please ------- explain under how system just how any elected president could become the dictator that you claim Trump would become ."
,
First read your statement "how system" second study history
, if you are capable.

So your saying it could never happen. You are so naive, you are pathetic, someone who needs help.

Guest
07-20-2016, 07:31 AM
He didn't read it off a teleprompter did he? But wait one second and trump will change his mind again. This is your biggest problem he tells you one thing then says another.

Apparently you ran off at the mouth/keyboard in this case, before reading the comment. But, that is you and your spontaneous nature. In the future, try to have enough patience to read the comment before replying to it. The attached quote seems fitting.

Guest
07-20-2016, 08:36 AM
Trump still says the Mexican boarder wall is going up and it won't be any too soon. We are fastly becoming a Spanish majority America. I took Spanish in Jr. High school and remember not much of it. btk

Guest
07-20-2016, 09:04 AM
'Make America Great Again' is simply a dog whistle for.....'Make America White Again.'

Those ignorant enough to support Chump, think this is just another reality show and have given no thought as to what would happen should he be elected.

Not that it could ever happen of course, because there are still too many decent Americans to ever let that happen. :thumbup:


CNM

Amen

Guest
07-20-2016, 09:07 AM
He didn't read it off a teleprompter did he? But wait one second and trump will change his mind again. This is your biggest problem he tells you one thing then says another.

There you go again getting your characters mixed. We were not talking about the current dictator in the WH.
You know the guy who never does what he says.
The guy who plays the race game for his advantage.
The islamic sympathizer who manipulates all in favor of his religions masters.
The hope and change guy?
The you can keep your medical plan (:1rotfl:) you can keep your doctor (:1rotfl:).

We are doomed by the likes of those who see no fault in the current black activist, islamic sympatizer, ignore the constitution, liar in the WH

or

the Clinton dictatot wannabe...the felon, incompetent, careless, reckless, unsophisticated piano shaped female impersonator.

Guest
07-20-2016, 09:16 AM
'Make America Great Again' is simply a dog whistle for.....'Make America White Again.'

Those ignorant enough to support Chump, think this is just another reality show and have given no thought as to what would happen should he be elected.

Not that it could ever happen of course, because there are still too many decent Americans to ever let that happen. :thumbup:


CNM

Decent as in ignorant of Hillary's complicity in multiple felonies? Got it. Or, are the aware of the felonious criminals, the Clintons and just wish to enable more crime by making them the most powerful crime family in the world?

Either way, your use of the word "decent" just proves to everyone on here that you are the fool that they labeled you. Decent people convict, not endorse criminal behavior.

Guest
07-20-2016, 09:17 AM
There you go again getting your characters mixed. We were not talking about the current dictator in the WH.
You know the guy who never does what he says.
The guy who plays the race game for his advantage.
The islamic sympathizer who manipulates all in favor of his religions masters.
The hope and change guy?
The you can keep your medical plan (:1rotfl:) you can keep your doctor (:1rotfl:).

We are doomed by the likes of those who see no fault in the current black activist, islamic sympatizer, ignore the constitution, liar in the WH

or

the Clinton dictatot wannabe...the felon, incompetent, careless, reckless, unsophisticated piano shaped female impersonator.

:agree:

Guest
07-20-2016, 09:20 AM
'Make America Great Again' is simply a dog whistle for.....'Make America White Again.'

Those ignorant enough to support Chump, think this is just another reality show and have given no thought as to what would happen should he be elected.

Not that it could ever happen of course, because there are still too many decent Americans to ever let that happen. :thumbup:


CNM

Yes, that's pretty much true. Name me a brown/black paradise, like the villages, 99.9% brown/black and a paradise...I'll wait...

White parts of America ARE better than the brown/black parts. White parts of the world ARE better than the brown/black parts. Name me ONE that isn't. Whites DO create better societies. Whites DO have better economies. Whites dominate over the brown/blacks in every category I can think of...how about you? Besides "entertainment", something tangible. A "building a better world" kind of way.

Trump is either "playing ball" or he'll be dead soon. They WON'T let an outsider become president, they just won't. There'll be an accident.

I wish he could turn back the hands of time and send us back to the 50s...the nations peak. Besides losers having "equality", what has gotten better? More toys? We're in debt up to our eyeballs as a nation borrowing for all that crap. I'm downsizing, my "stuff" owns me.

It's a phase we should have skipped. A "family", a man and a women raising independent, productive children is our only job, it's why we're here, we're failing it miserably. For millions of years a "traditional" family worked very well. A few ugly women in the 60s felt left out and decided to change everything. They've wrought destruction, decline, diversity. When it all collapses under the dead weight of a Hispanic majority, we'll go back to the old ways. The old roles. This is what happens when Laquanda "raises" an entire generation and turns them into idiots. The standards, the quality of life, all declines.

Let's hear your retort. Tell me how diversity is making places better, how rising minority populations improve quality of life. How affirmative action and quotas are good for anyone other than the "lucky winner".

The "system" is what needs to continue, the corrupt system of systematic stealing. Trump won't win if he's not on board.

So your saying it could never happen. You are so naive, you are pathetic, someone who needs help.

It could NEVER happen, the "system" will survive. Trump is playing ball, or he'll have an accident. I bet he's playing ball and this whole "rogue" thing was "reality TV".

Trump still says the Mexican boarder wall is going up and it won't be any too soon. We are fastly becoming a Spanish majority America. I took Spanish in Jr. High school and remember not much of it. btk

You better brush up, minorities are the majority from age 6 down. Tell me again how great the education system is. Down to #17 at last count. You women better enjoy the good times while they last. Minority men don't play that "equality" game that white men do. They'll show you your place.

How do black men treat women? How do Hispanic men treat women? THAT will become the new norm as their numbers and political power grows. These are mathematical certainties UNLESS we actively stop it.

We abort our children, they can't wait to increase the household income with another dependent.

Guest
07-20-2016, 09:32 AM
Yes, that's pretty much true. Name me a brown/black paradise, like the villages, 99.9% brown/black and a paradise...I'll wait...

White parts of America ARE better than the brown/black parts. White parts of the world ARE better than the brown/black parts. Name me ONE that isn't. Whites DO create better societies. Whites DO have better economies. Whites dominate over the brown/blacks in every category I can think of...how about you? Besides "entertainment", something tangible. A "building a better world" kind of way.

Trump is either "playing ball" or he'll be dead soon. They WON'T let an outsider become president, they just won't. There'll be an accident.

I wish he could turn back the hands of time and send us back to the 50s...the nations peak. Besides losers having "equality", what has gotten better? More toys? We're in debt up to our eyeballs as a nation borrowing for all that crap. I'm downsizing, my "stuff" owns me.

It's a phase we should have skipped. A "family", a man and a women raising independent, productive children is our only job, it's why we're here, we're failing it miserably. For millions of years a "traditional" family worked very well. A few ugly women in the 60s felt left out and decided to change everything. They've wrought destruction, decline, diversity. When it all collapses under the dead weight of a Hispanic majority, we'll go back to the old ways. The old roles. This is what happens when Laquanda "raises" an entire generation and turns them into idiots. The standards, the quality of life, all declines.

Let's hear your retort. Tell me how diversity is making places better, how rising minority populations improve quality of life. How affirmative action and quotas are good for anyone other than the "lucky winner".

The "system" is what needs to continue, the corrupt system of systematic stealing. Trump won't win if he's not on board.



It could NEVER happen, the "system" will survive. Trump is playing ball, or he'll have an accident. I bet he's playing ball and this whole "rogue" thing was "reality TV".



You better brush up, minorities are the majority from age 6 down. Tell me again how great the education system is. Down to #17 at last count. You women better enjoy the good times while they last. Minority men don't play that "equality" game that white men do. They'll show you your place.

How do black men treat women? How do Hispanic men treat women? THAT will become the new norm as their numbers and political power grows. These are mathematical certainties UNLESS we actively stop it.

We abort our children, they can't wait to increase the household income with another dependent.

:BigApplause:

Guest
07-20-2016, 09:59 AM
Yes, that's pretty much true. Name me a brown/black paradise, like the villages, 99.9% brown/black and a paradise...I'll wait...

White parts of America ARE better than the brown/black parts. White parts of the world ARE better than the brown/black parts. Name me ONE that isn't. Whites DO create better societies. Whites DO have better economies. Whites dominate over the brown/blacks in every category I can think of...how about you? Besides "entertainment", something tangible. A "building a better world" kind of way.


Spoken like a true racist....good job. :thumbup:

So tell us again, what you did to earn the single biggest advantage in this country...that being born white?

You're too stupid to understand, that it is racists like yourself that have made sure that minorities are 'kept in their place.'

Poverty and overt/covert racism is the real driver of the problems in black areas, yet you are too ignorant to see it.

Oh how I wish I had the power to make sleazballs like you turn black.

You're exactly the type that would become militant at the despicable and prejudicial way you were treated, simply because of your black skin.....and it would be deliciously funny to then point out your flaming hypocrisy. :D

Alas, I don't have that power so will have to just rely on the fact that you consider yourself 'superior'...even though your posts prove otherwise.

:wave:

CNM

Guest
07-20-2016, 10:07 AM
Spoken like a true racist....good job. :thumbup:

So tell us again, what you did to earn the single biggest advantage in this country...that being born white? One cannot deny the facts!!

You're too stupid to understand, that it is racists like yourself that have made sure that minorities are 'kept in their place.'
No they actually do that themselves.


Poverty and overt/covert racism is the real driver of the problems in black areas,

Another fact of life!! yet you are too ignorant to see it.

Oh how I wish I had the power to make sleazballs like you turn black.

You're exactly the type that would become militant at the despicable and prejudicial way you were treated, simply because of your black skin.....and it would be deliciously funny to then point out your flaming hypocrisy. :D

Alas, I don't have that power so will have to just rely on the fact that you consider yourself 'superior'...another fact confirmed!!!even though your posts prove otherwise.

:wave:

CNM

Ah you need to talk to some of the successful blacks...the true minority within the minority.....and listen to what they have to say. I am guessing to you it will sound very, very white.

Guest
07-20-2016, 10:08 AM
And we don't say much about politics publicly, but we are silently steaming about the mess the world is in and about the inappropriate sympathy given to people who then turn around and think it is o.k. to shoot the police. We don't say much but we are going to elect a non politician who can't seem to keep his foot out of his mouth, just like members of our own family. His wife isn't clever about writing speeches either, but we are going to begin in November clearing out the political machine that has screwed things up mightily. Then we will somehow get the attention of both political parties. Be aware of the power of silence. We will win this election. We will change this country back to being run in a common sense way.

Guest
07-20-2016, 10:43 AM
Spoken like a true racist....good job. :thumbup:

So tell us again, what you did to earn the single biggest advantage in this country...that being born white?

You're too stupid to understand, that it is racists like yourself that have made sure that minorities are 'kept in their place.'

Poverty and overt/covert racism is the real driver of the problems in black areas, yet you are too ignorant to see it.

Oh how I wish I had the power to make sleazballs like you turn black.

You're exactly the type that would become militant at the despicable and prejudicial way you were treated, simply because of your black skin.....and it would be deliciously funny to then point out your flaming hypocrisy. :D

Alas, I don't have that power so will have to just rely on the fact that you consider yourself 'superior'...even though your posts prove otherwise.

:wave:

CNM

Thank you, for both compliments. A job well done and being aware that there are HUGE differences, different species differences, between the "races". We're as different as Darwin's Finches.

That's IT, I was born white and they were born "dark". It's like saying what makes a thoroughbred different from a donkey? Birth. They CAN breed, but they shouldn't. Birth made you different than your neighbor too. Are you smarter than your neighbor? Then compensate her for it. If you made more growing up because you were smarter, you OWE her some. Isn't that what "liberalism" is all about? Total equality? Whites ARE smarter than blacks and Hispanics, it's a fact. The REAL test, success in the real world, proves it, white places are better than brown/black places. Everywhere on this entire planet.

Minorities keep themselves in their place because they're innately incapable of keeping up with the whites and Asians. These are facts proven throughout the planet. Name me ONE black paradise...there are plenty of white and Asian, but no black or even Hispanic. Why?

On the WHOLE planet WE oppress them? I don't think so. It's THEM, they're incapable of living in "civilized, polite society". We've had 50,000 years of evolution, selective breeding, to live in a complex society, they have not.

No...VIOLENCE is what keeps them separated and in poverty. Poverty does not beget violence but violence will ALWAYS beget poverty. It really IS them. They really ARE different than you and I. Skin color only helps to identify them, the real differences go all the way through.

Why would you do that to me? Why would you WISH that on someone? You're worse than me and a hypocrite too. It's like wishing I'd become a rat, or a cockroach. All three destroy an area once their numbers reach a certain number. Diversity does NOTHING but destroy.

I probably would be violent, being too stupid to know what the hell is going on in the world. Too stupid to know it's our own doing. After 150 years, they're worse off then they were the day they were freed. They, as a people, are incapable of self management. That's the trouble with being stupid, you're too stupid to realize just how stupid you are.

I am superior, ALL my life experiences have reinforced it. How about you? Are you so low on the IQ totem pole that you're bested by them? Then why am I arguing with you? You CAN'T understand.

Ah you need to talk to some of the successful blacks...the true minority within the minority.....and listen to what they have to say. I am guessing to you it will sound very, very white.

You mean the 0.001% The baggage they bring with them isn't worth the trouble.

Guest
07-20-2016, 11:42 AM
Make America Great Again!
Who doesn't want that? Are you aware how scared the Democratic Clinton Party is?
They are paying people to walk the streets to talk to the homeless areas, black communities, Hispanic communities, Asian communities and Prisons actually giving out FREE handouts to them to try to make sure they get out and vote. That's what Crooked Hillary Clinton is all about, buying her way into the White House. She has to pretend she cares about these people to get their votes. She will bus them to the polls in Nov.. Exactly what Obama did to win, no regard for the money spent to do this.
To you Democrats, she's a liar, cheating, backstabbing criminal. If you continue to support her you are actually an accomplice to her crimes. If you think she is cute because she might get away with what she has done you may be in for a surprise. And hopefully under the Donald J. Trump administration, the cases against her will be opened up again and she will be sent to prison where she belongs. She is not above the law just like Martha Stewart was not when she lied to the FBI.
:22yikes::22yikes::22yikes::22yikes:


Seriously, are you so naive to think that Trump isn't a liar, backstabbling criminal. You really think he got to where he is by being honest??? Check all of the fact-checking sites, every speech Trump makes has lies in it. I guarantee he's stabbed some people in the back as well. But, no, Republicans think he's "Terrific" and "fabulous" to use trumps favorite words. Actually thats not true. Republicans don't even like their own candidate, they just don't want Clinton. Poor Paul Ryan had to make a speech about not wanting Clinton rather than being excited about Trump.

Guest
07-20-2016, 12:10 PM
Spoken like a true racist....good job. :thumbup:

So tell us again, what you did to earn the single biggest advantage in this country...that being born white?

You're too stupid to understand, that it is racists like yourself that have made sure that minorities are 'kept in their place.'

Poverty and overt/covert racism is the real driver of the problems in black areas, yet you are too ignorant to see it.

Oh how I wish I had the power to make sleazballs like you turn black.

You're exactly the type that would become militant at the despicable and prejudicial way you were treated, simply because of your black skin.....and it would be deliciously funny to then point out your flaming hypocrisy. :D

Alas, I don't have that power so will have to just rely on the fact that you consider yourself 'superior'...even though your posts prove otherwise.

:wave:

CNM

Don't tell me, English is your second language, right?

Guest
07-20-2016, 12:31 PM
Seriously, are you so naive to think that Trump isn't a liar, backstabbling criminal. You really think he got to where he is by being honest??? Check all of the fact-checking sites, every speech Trump makes has lies in it. I guarantee he's stabbed some people in the back as well. But, no, Republicans think he's "Terrific" and "fabulous" to use trumps favorite words. Actually thats not true. Republicans don't even like their own candidate, they just don't want Clinton. Poor Paul Ryan had to make a speech about not wanting Clinton rather than being excited about Trump.

Just like you had to wait for the dem HQ and or her highness to tell you what to say about the Malanie Trump speech....did you have to wait long to find out what to shovel dirt at for today!!!

I bet if most of you did not watch the media every morning noon and night you would not know what to say on your own.

Parrots can only beget parrots and parrots can only parrot what they have been told.

If someone asked your opinion before you got the official position/marching orders you would be slumped in the chair waiting for INPUT!!!

Sad.

Guest
07-20-2016, 12:42 PM
[QUOTE=Guest;1256958]Seriously, are you so naive to think that Trump isn't a liar, backstabbling criminal. You really think he got to where he is by being honest??? Check all of the fact-checking sites, every speech Trump makes has lies in it. I guarantee he's stabbed some people in the back as well. But, no, Republicans think he's "Terrific" and "fabulous" to use trumps favorite words. Actually thats not true. Republicans don't even like their own candidate, they just don't want Clinton. Poor Paul Ryan had to make a speech about not wanting Clinton rather than being excited about Trump.[/QUOTE

But he is going to make every American rich with his economical plan, although he will not tell you what it is. Maybe we should all go to trump university and learn the scams. I think one is to start a business, suck the money out and then go bankrupt, leaving the small business man holding the bag.

Guest
07-20-2016, 01:21 PM
Just like you had to wait for the dem HQ and or her highness to tell you what to say about the Malanie Trump speech....did you have to wait long to find out what to shovel dirt at for today!!!

I bet if most of you did not watch the media every morning noon and night you would not know what to say on your own.

Parrots can only beget parrots and parrots can only parrot what they have been told.

If someone asked your opinion before you got the official position/marching orders you would be slumped in the chair waiting for INPUT!!!

Sad.


Good job deflecting away from the truth of what I wrote and not defending your own candidate, did you learn that in debate 101. Seems to be status quo for most republicans. You deflect away from the horrible mess that is Trump and fire away at Clinton in hopes that no one realizes how bad Trump actually is. How about actually arguing against the points I was making, oh wait, you can't because Trump is just as dishonest, fraudulent, and corrupt as Clinton. At least take some responsibility for the bulls**t that Trump says and does.

Guest
07-20-2016, 01:29 PM
[QUOTE=Guest;1256958]Seriously, are you so naive to think that Trump isn't a liar, backstabbling criminal. You really think he got to where he is by being honest??? Check all of the fact-checking sites, every speech Trump makes has lies in it. I guarantee he's stabbed some people in the back as well. But, no, Republicans think he's "Terrific" and "fabulous" to use trumps favorite words. Actually thats not true. Republicans don't even like their own candidate, they just don't want Clinton. Poor Paul Ryan had to make a speech about not wanting Clinton rather than being excited about Trump.[/QUOTE

But he is going to make every American rich with his economical plan, although he will not tell you what it is. Maybe we should all go to trump university and learn the scams. I think one is to start a business, suck the money out and then go bankrupt, leaving the small business man holding the bag.
WAIT, WHAT!!!???, you mean Trump did lie and do something fraudulent and dishonest. Holy sh*t, how will moral christian republicans stomach it and still stand by their candidate. Oh, wait, they don't have a choice but to embrace a immoral and corrupt business man by trying to make Clinton look worse than he does. Good plan, republicans, way to stick to your so treasured values.

Guest
07-20-2016, 04:19 PM
Don't tell me, English is your second language, right?

Your dripping envy of my superior writing skills (at least compared to yourself) and pathetic attempt to deflect...are duly noted. :thumbup:

Thanks for the compliment. :ho:



:wave:


CNM

Guest
07-20-2016, 04:35 PM
There you go again getting your characters mixed. We were not talking about the current dictator in the WH.
You know the guy who never does what he says.
The guy who plays the race game for his advantage.
The islamic sympathizer who manipulates all in favor of his religions masters.
The hope and change guy?
The you can keep your medical plan (:1rotfl:) you can keep your doctor (:1rotfl:).

We are doomed by the likes of those who see no fault in the current black activist, islamic sympatizer, ignore the constitution, liar in the WH

or

the Clinton dictatot wannabe...the felon, incompetent, careless, reckless, unsophisticated piano shaped female impersonator.

Oh, very mature reply.

Guest
07-20-2016, 04:40 PM
Yes, that's pretty much true. Name me a brown/black paradise, like the villages, 99.9% brown/black and a paradise...I'll wait...

White parts of America ARE better than the brown/black parts. White parts of the world ARE better than the brown/black parts. Name me ONE that isn't. Whites DO create better societies. Whites DO have better economies. Whites dominate over the brown/blacks in every category I can think of...how about you? Besides "entertainment", something tangible. A "building a better world" kind of way.

Trump is either "playing ball" or he'll be dead soon. They WON'T let an outsider become president, they just won't. There'll be an accident.

I wish he could turn back the hands of time and send us back to the 50s...the nations peak. Besides losers having "equality", what has gotten better? More toys? We're in debt up to our eyeballs as a nation borrowing for all that crap. I'm downsizing, my "stuff" owns me.

It's a phase we should have skipped. A "family", a man and a women raising independent, productive children is our only job, it's why we're here, we're failing it miserably. For millions of years a "traditional" family worked very well. A few ugly women in the 60s felt left out and decided to change everything. They've wrought destruction, decline, diversity. When it all collapses under the dead weight of a Hispanic majority, we'll go back to the old ways. The old roles. This is what happens when Laquanda "raises" an entire generation and turns them into idiots. The standards, the quality of life, all declines.

Let's hear your retort. Tell me how diversity is making places better, how rising minority populations improve quality of life. How affirmative action and quotas are good for anyone other than the "lucky winner".

The "system" is what needs to continue, the corrupt system of systematic stealing. Trump won't win if he's not on board.



It could NEVER happen, the "system" will survive. Trump is playing ball, or he'll have an accident. I bet he's playing ball and this whole "rogue" thing was "reality TV".



You better brush up, minorities are the majority from age 6 down. Tell me again how great the education system is. Down to #17 at last count. You women better enjoy the good times while they last. Minority men don't play that "equality" game that white men do. They'll show you your place.

How do black men treat women? How do Hispanic men treat women? THAT will become the new norm as their numbers and political power grows. These are mathematical certainties UNLESS we actively stop it.

We abort our children, they can't wait to increase the household income with another dependent.

You are utterly revolting. As an American, you make me want to puke. Preferably, all over you.

Guest
07-20-2016, 04:52 PM
Your dripping envy of my superior writing skills (at least compared to yourself) and pathetic attempt to deflect...are duly noted. :thumbup:

Thanks for the compliment. :ho:



:wave:


CNM

Please, I think you are being overly generous!

Guest
07-20-2016, 05:23 PM
Oh, very mature reply.

As usual the vast majority of the acid disconected rambeling diatribes posted on this site are brought to you by a single person known as:

COLD NO MORE or CNM

Sometimes however in order to try to make it appear that there are more Clintonites on this site than there actually are then

Ms. Cold No More drops a bomb and does not include her identity .

Guest
07-20-2016, 05:31 PM
I guarantee that I could buy your sorry old azz several times over and hardly miss the funds .

You must be Chatbrat, always bragging..., 2 Mercedes-Benz, high end oceanfront condo, yacht, etc, etc. In reality, has a builder grade refrigerator.

Guest
07-20-2016, 05:45 PM
As usual the vast majority of the acid disconected rambeling diatribes posted on this site are brought to you by a single person known as:

COLD NO MORE or CNM

Sometimes however in order to try to make it appear that there are more Clintonites on this site than there actually are then

Ms. Cold No More drops a bomb and does not include her identity .

I think most of us have noticed the same thing. Her posts are obvious.

Guest
07-21-2016, 05:32 AM
You are utterly revolting. As an American, you make me want to puke. Preferably, all over you.

The changing of America, the diversifying of America is what makes me want to puke.

Guest
07-21-2016, 05:42 AM
You are utterly revolting. As an American, you make me want to puke. Preferably, all over you.

You nailed it! :thumbup:


The anonymity here has at least one benefit, it allows the putrid racists, bigots and misogynists to crawl out of the woodwork and spew their true feelings.


Which they would otherwise be too chicken$hit and ashamed (rightfully so) to do in public. :ho:


CNM

Guest
07-21-2016, 06:08 AM
You nailed it! :thumbup:


The anonymity here has at least one benefit, it allows the putrid racists, bigots and misogynists to crawl out of the woodwork and spew their true feelings.


Which they would otherwise be too chicken$hit and ashamed (rightfully so) to do in public. :ho:


CNM

Do you really think you are any better? Do you think you are fooling anyone by using three letters as your form of identification? Give it a break, because you enjoy the exact same anonymous privilege as anyone else on here. Some of the things you say on here, you would not say to my face, so get over it. You are a fraud.

So, rather than disparage those that don't agree with you, why not have an honest discussion? Or, are you afraid that you are not knowledgeable enough to participate so you attack anyone that you don't agree with?

You whine constantly on here about how you don't like the way Admin is handling their forum. You complain about other posters on here that you don't agree with. You attack and then when someone responds, you whine about ID. If you are so miserable, why do you stay on here?

You have accomplished one of your goals. You have caused me to divert from the subject to address your constant whining. You have caused me to lower myself to your level. So congratulations. I normally just ignore the racist on here and don't even read his posts. But, you are like one of those no-see-'em bugs that gets under your skin and requires one to scratch the itch.

Guest
07-21-2016, 06:51 AM
Do you really think you are any better? Do you think you are fooling anyone by using three letters as your form of identification? Give it a break, because you enjoy the exact same anonymous privilege as anyone else on here. Some of the things you say on here, you would not say to my face, so get over it. You are a fraud.

So, rather than disparage those that don't agree with you, why not have an honest discussion? Or, are you afraid that you are not knowledgeable enough to participate so you attack anyone that you don't agree with?

You whine constantly on here about how you don't like the way Admin is handling their forum. You complain about other posters on here that you don't agree with. You attack and then when someone responds, you whine about ID. If you are so miserable, why do you stay on here?

You have accomplished one of your goals. You have caused me to divert from the subject to address your constant whining. You have caused me to lower myself to your level. So congratulations. I normally just ignore the racist on here and don't even read his posts. But, you are like one of those no-see-'em bugs that gets under your skin and requires one to scratch the itch.

Save your whining, because you're simply another one of the chicken$hits here....that isn't even brave enough to use your stage name.

YOU are the one that tries to act superior, when in fact you're just another wanna-be tough guy hiding behind your keyboard.

And you're dead wrong in thinking that I wouldn't say it to your face.

So quit being a whiny little chicken$hit and at least use your stage name. ;)

:wave:

CNM

Guest
07-21-2016, 06:57 AM
Save your whining, because you're simply another one of the chicken$hits here....that isn't even brave enough to use your stage name.

YOU are the one that tries to act superior, when in fact you're just another wanna-be tough guy hiding behind your keyboard.

And you're dead wrong in thinking that I wouldn't say it to your face.

So quit being a whiny little chicken$hit and at least use your stage name. ;)

:wave:

CNM

You're brave because you use three letters?
:a20:..:a20:...:a20:
You wouldn't even have the guts to say these things to someone in public.
Take your stage name and cram it up your girly parts....:a20:

Guest
07-21-2016, 07:14 AM
You're brave because you use three letters?
:a20:..:a20:...:a20:
You wouldn't even have the guts to say these things to someone in public.
Take your stage name and cram it up your girly parts....:a20:

YOU are the one that tries to act superior, when in fact you're just another wanna-be tough guy hiding behind your keyboard.

And you're dead wrong in thinking that I wouldn't say it to your face.

So quit being a whiny little chicken$hit and at least use your stage name.

:ho:

:wave:

CNM

Guest
07-21-2016, 07:21 AM
You nailed it! :thumbup:


The anonymity here has at least one benefit, it allows the putrid racists, bigots and misogynists to crawl out of the woodwork and spew their true feelings.


Which they would otherwise be too chicken$hit and ashamed (rightfully so) to do in public. :ho:


CNM

You SHOULD be listening. But you won't you'll stick to your delusions that "diversity and equality" are noble causes that will eventually result in our all living in nirvana. The reality is, we're going lower and lower into the abyss each year. In 30 years, "America" will no longer exist. You're grandchildren will live in a 3rd world sh!thole. They will curse your name for destroying their nation.

The truth in this age of lies, deception, propaganda isn't very popular.

Do you really think you are any better? Do you think you are fooling anyone by using three letters as your form of identification? Give it a break, because you enjoy the exact same anonymous privilege as anyone else on here. Some of the things you say on here, you would not say to my face, so get over it. You are a fraud.

So, rather than disparage those that don't agree with you, why not have an honest discussion? Or, are you afraid that you are not knowledgeable enough to participate so you attack anyone that you don't agree with?

You whine constantly on here about how you don't like the way Admin is handling their forum. You complain about other posters on here that you don't agree with. You attack and then when someone responds, you whine about ID. If you are so miserable, why do you stay on here?

You have accomplished one of your goals. You have caused me to divert from the subject to address your constant whining. You have caused me to lower myself to your level. So congratulations. I normally just ignore the racist on here and don't even read his posts. But, you are like one of those no-see-'em bugs that gets under your skin and requires one to scratch the itch.

You really should read them...there's truth in them. We've gone from #1 to #17 because of "Equality and diversity", how much lower are you willing to fall before you open your eyes and see the truth? It's THEM and they're dragging us down with them. Diversity DOES destroy, everywhere it rears it's ugly head.

Name me ONE "diversified" place that got better with an influx of blacks and Hispanics...just ONE.

Open your eyes! It's a fraud. You're being conned. You're losing your country.

You're brave because you use three letters?
:a20:..:a20:...:a20:
You wouldn't even have the guts to say these things to someone in public.
Take your stage name and cram it up your girly parts....:a20:

Sure she would, she's the type, spouting her tripe to anyone within earshot, within 100 yds. I hear these STUPID women at the pool all the time, saying the most ridiculous things. It really was a huge mistake giving women the vote. They have no sense. EVERYTHING is based on emotion, how it "feels". That may work with deciding what guy to date, but it doesn't work for much else. It doesn't work when facts contradict.

Women LOVE to opinionate about things they have NO IDEA about. They're the queens of believing what an "authority" says about something. They believe the most obvious bullsh!t. No wonder marketers target women more than men now. They, along with the minorities, make great suckers who will buy anything.

Guest
07-21-2016, 07:35 AM
You SHOULD be listening. But you won't you'll stick to your delusions that "diversity and equality" are noble causes that will eventually result in our all living in nirvana. The reality is, we're going lower and lower into the abyss each year. In 30 years, "America" will no longer exist. You're grandchildren will live in a 3rd world sh!thole. They will curse your name for destroying their nation.

The truth in this age of lies, deception, propaganda isn't very popular.



You really should read them...there's truth in them. We've gone from #1 to #17 because of "Equality and diversity", how much lower are you willing to fall before you open your eyes and see the truth? It's THEM and they're dragging us down with them. Diversity DOES destroy, everywhere it rears it's ugly head.

Name me ONE "diversified" place that got better with an influx of blacks and Hispanics...just ONE.

Open your eyes! It's a fraud. You're being conned. You're losing your country.



Sure she would, she's the type, spouting her tripe to anyone within earshot, within 100 yds. I hear these STUPID women at the pool all the time, saying the most ridiculous things. It really was a huge mistake giving women the vote. They have no sense. EVERYTHING is based on emotion, how it "feels". That may work with deciding what guy to date, but it doesn't work for much else. It doesn't work when facts contradict.

Women LOVE to opinionate about things they have NO IDEA about. They're the queens of believing what an "authority" says about something. They believe the most obvious bullsh!t. No wonder marketers target women more than men now. They, along with the minorities, make great suckers who will buy anything.

I didn't say that I don't agree with you. I just don't find it productive to expound over and over again about the racial divide in America. If folks are honest, they do realize the most of the racism is on the other side and perpetrated by the other side.

Yes, the he/she is a minor nuisance that whines about anyone that doesn't agree with her, but uses vulgarity when doing so. Just another hypocrite that demands everyone cater to her will. She must find herself impotent down here in The Villages and hides out on the Internet trolling the political forums. It is her only source of satisfaction, because in her demented mindset, she thinks that she really makes a difference. Funny how no one has listened to her enough to agree to put some silly "screen name" whatever that is supposed to mean, on their posts. Could she be a has-been actress in her earlier years? I get a kick out of it every time she demands one to put their "screen name" on their posts. If she only knew how many are laughing at her as they read her erratic blather.

Guest
07-21-2016, 08:08 AM
I didn't say that I don't agree with you. I just don't find it productive to expound over and over again about the racial divide in America. If folks are honest, they do realize the most of the racism is on the other side and perpetrated by the other side.

Yes, the he/she is a minor nuisance that whines about anyone that doesn't agree with her, but uses vulgarity when doing so. Just another hypocrite that demands everyone cater to her will. She must find herself impotent down here in The Villages and hides out on the Internet trolling the political forums. It is her only source of satisfaction, because in her demented mindset, she thinks that she really makes a difference. Funny how no one has listened to her enough to agree to put some silly "screen name" whatever that is supposed to mean, on their posts. Could she be a has-been actress in her earlier years? I get a kick out of it every time she demands one to put their "screen name" on their posts. If she only knew how many are laughing at her as they read her erratic blather.

I must repeat it, over and over to COUNTER the propaganda lies about diversity being good.

Sometimes I feel demented trying over and over to get people to open their eyes and realize WHAT is happening to our country. The FACT is, below age 6, we are NOT the majority. The FACT is, in 30 years or less, we WILL be "Mexico II" as Hispanics WILL be the majority. You'll live in a nation where Spanish is #1 and English is #2. We're losing America and nobody realizes it...or cares.

Ask your grandkids if they would like to live in a world run by and dominated by Mexicans. That is what you're leaving them. 1/3 the population, over 100 million people in America RIGHT NOW are either foreign born themselves or the child of a foreign born, an anchor baby. We're literally being bred out of our own country by Hispanic invaders. They're taking their land back, one county at a time.

Guest
07-21-2016, 08:46 AM
Save your whining, because you're simply another one of the chicken$hits here....that isn't even brave enough to use your stage name.

YOU are the one that tries to act superior, when in fact you're just another wanna-be tough guy hiding behind your keyboard.

And you're dead wrong in thinking that I wouldn't say it to your face.

So quit being a whiny little chicken$hit and at least use your stage name. ;)

:wave:

CNM

A " Must See " : Check out " Cold No More`s " Posts on the other areas of TOTV such as the Villages Health Insurance issue .

Clearly this sad soul is a very unhappy camper who seems to have an issue with Capitalism .
I simply do not understand how someone like this would choose to live in a community such as this and constantly carp about the Developer at ever single turn .
Why stay here ?

Guest
07-21-2016, 09:24 AM
A " Must See " : Check out " Cold No More`s " Posts on the other areas of TOTV such as the Villages Health Insurance issue .

Clearly this sad soul is a very unhappy camper who seems to have an issue with Capitalism .
I simply do not understand how someone like this would choose to live in a community such as this and constantly carp about the Developer at ever single turn .
Why stay here ?

Because she is addicted to being miserable. She won't last long.

Guest
07-21-2016, 09:25 AM
You nailed it! :thumbup:


The anonymity here has at least one benefit, it allows the putrid racists, bigots and misogynists to crawl out of the woodwork and spew their true feelings.


Which they would otherwise be too chicken$hit and ashamed (rightfully so) to do in public. :ho:


CNM

So, you don't believe in the second amendment? You sure seem to exploit it consistently.

Guest
07-21-2016, 11:06 AM
You nailed it! :thumbup:


The anonymity here has at least one benefit, it allows the putrid racists, bigots and misogynists to crawl out of the woodwork and spew their true feelings.


Which they would otherwise be too chicken$hit and ashamed (rightfully so) to do in public. :ho:


CNM

CNM you are a very sad soul . Do you go outside much at all ?
You might begin to heal and feel better about yourself if you spent a few hours a week engaged in helping others .

You might even meet a few people who would be very impressed with your insights and opinions . This too might help you feel better .

Give it a try . We know it is tough but take the first steps .

Guest
07-21-2016, 03:02 PM
CNM you are a very sad soul . Do you go outside much at all ?
You might begin to heal and feel better about yourself if you spent a few hours a week engaged in helping others .

You might even meet a few people who would be very impressed with your insights and opinions . This too might help you feel better .

Give it a try . We know it is tough but take the first steps .

Amen! ..:thumbup:

Guest
07-21-2016, 05:43 PM
A " Must See " : Check out " Cold No More`s " Posts on the other areas of TOTV such as the Villages Health Insurance issue .

Clearly this sad soul is a very unhappy camper who seems to have an issue with Capitalism .
I simply do not understand how someone like this would choose to live in a community such as this and constantly carp about the Developer at ever single turn .
Why stay here ?
Because she is addicted to being miserable. She won't last long.
CNM you are a very sad soul . Do you go outside much at all ?
You might begin to heal and feel better about yourself if you spent a few hours a week engaged in helping others .

You might even meet a few people who would be very impressed with your insights and opinions . This too might help you feel better .

Give it a try . We know it is tough but take the first steps .
Amen! ..:thumbup:

:1rotfl:


Being in so many people's head, because I consistently post links backing my point and prove so many wrong who can only rebut with one or two liners spewing their bile and watching where all they can do is whine, sputter and regurgitate talking points that they've been force fed by right-wingnuts....warms the cockles of my heart. :D


:ho:

:wave:

CNM

Guest
07-21-2016, 07:36 PM
:1rotfl:


Being in so many people's head, because I consistently post links backing my point and prove so many wrong who can only rebut with one or two liners spewing their bile and watching where all they can do is whine, sputter and regurgitate talking points that they've been force fed by right-wingnuts....warms the cockles of my heart. :D


:ho:

:wave:

CNM

NO, I'm the real CNM...:22yikes:..:girlneener:....:0000000000luvmyh ors

Guest
07-22-2016, 05:45 AM
Because she is addicted to being miserable. She won't last long.

Hello!!!!! "She" is a man.

Guest
07-22-2016, 06:28 AM
Hello!!!!! "She" is a man.

Prove it. He/she writes like a prissy female, so if IT is a he, then he is pretty girly. Perhaps, he/she is gay? That would answer the question of why he/she is so miserable. Identity crisis. :shrug:

Guest
07-22-2016, 06:38 AM
Oh noooo, We can’t have a president who actually gives a damn about America and Americans now can we? Go Trump!!!

Guest
07-22-2016, 06:46 AM
Oh noooo, We can’t have a president who actually gives a damn about America and Americans now can we? Go Trump!!!

:thumbup:

Guest
07-22-2016, 07:15 AM
When you start almost all your statements with "I" watch out. He has no plan but "I".I think he made that dictator point again and again last night. Instead of telling the populace the only thing you have to fear is fear itself he sent his usual message that everyone has a lot to fear.

"the crime and violence that today afflicts our nation will soon come to an end. Beginning on January 20th 2017, safety will be restored."

Did anyone catch how he was going to do this? I must have missed it.

Does anyone remember how we were supposed to be afraid of all the protestors at the convention? What happened?

Guest
07-22-2016, 07:26 AM
I think he made that dictator point again and again last night. Instead of telling the populace the only thing you have to fear is fear itself he sent his usual message that everyone has a lot to fear.

"the crime and violence that today afflicts our nation will soon come to an end. Beginning on January 20th 2017, safety will be restored."

Did anyone catch how he was going to do this? I must have missed it.

Does anyone remember how we were supposed to be afraid of all the protestors at the convention? What happened?

Well, at least he didn't promise to lower the level of the ocean like Obama. How has that worked out?

And of course, Obie and Chillary have been assuring everyone/lying to everyone with "it's all a Republican conspiracy, and there is no terrorism." And the economy is booming, and the unemployment is fine. You know, the regular lies from the pathological.

Guest
07-22-2016, 07:40 AM
Well, at least he didn't promise to lower the level of the ocean like Obama. How has that worked out?

When did he say that?

Guest
07-22-2016, 02:24 PM
Oh noooo, We can’t have a president who actually gives a damn about America and Americans now can we? Go Trump!!!

He is going to fix the economy, if he is president he will have the country file for bankruptcy, he has had a lot of practice.

Guest
07-22-2016, 02:59 PM
He is going to fix the economy, if he is president he will have the country file for bankruptcy, he has had a lot of practice.


Feeling Hillar`ys election slipping away day by day .

You are not going to save her by posting on this site you should really be spending your time working each day at her local campaign office with all of the other unemployed " General Studies " Majors .

Guest
07-22-2016, 03:53 PM
Feeling Hillar`ys election slipping away day by day .

You are not going to save her by posting on this site you should really be spending your time working each day at her local campaign office with all of the other unemployed " General Studies " Majors .

More like LIBERAL arts majors. :a20:

Guest
07-22-2016, 04:08 PM
More like LIBERAL arts majors. :a20:

There are many Liberal Arts colleges and Universities today that do not have set Majors .

Instead they allow the students to " create their own Majors ".

One such well known school is Brown University . I am familiar with this trend because in my former life I recruited both Undergrads and MBA`s for employment .

The lack of basic knowledge and basic skills of these young people who have had over $250,000 spent on their undergrad education is stunning .

Just no comparison to the young people I saw coming out of well known and respected universities 20 years ago .

Guest
07-22-2016, 04:46 PM
He is going to fix the economy, if he is president he will have the country file for bankruptcy, he has had a lot of practice.

True. And apparently you still don't really get it. It's right there, you said it and yet, you ignore the indication.

Trump has been in business for many years, and has failed on a few projects. BUT, he has succeeded more than he has failed and is now a Billionaire with lots of experience at success. He has many years of success, versus Hillary's many years of failure. Hillary has failed at everything she has attempted and you still want to give her the top job in the world. Remind me not to hire you as a recruiter.

Trump has employed thousands of workers, including lots of women in high positions. And he paid them very well, equal to the men in the same positions. Hillary paid her few women gov workers less than her men. How may jobs has Hillary created? What is her claim to success? We know she has failed a lot, but we never hear of any success stories. The whole middle east went to sh*t during her watch and with her policies.

I have heard many many good things about Trump, but I have not heard anything good about Hillary. She thinks ONLY of herself. I have researched to find something good that Hillary has accomplished, and found NOTHING. In her whole tenure in congress, she authored three DO-NOTHING bills. We already know she was a miserable failure as SecState. Believe me, I am a retired employee of State. We also know that her charity is a scam, only 6-8% actually going to charity, and the rest goes to admin. Admin that pays for jetting about of the Clintons, lavish meals and hotel stays and high pay for their speeches. And it is being investigated for tax fraud. Not a good thing.

Trump has been around in the spot light for decades and the left has no dirt of merit to use against him. Either he is REALLY. Really good at hiding dirt or he is what you see.

I did not like Trump when he threw his name into the campaign, but the more I have learned about him, the more I have been impressed.

Trump has my vote, my wife's vote and my four children's votes. They came up with their decision before I did.

You can vote for Hillary, and then go and wash your hands. Think about those folks in Benghazi that died under her watch. And think about the possibility that some of our top secret information may be out there, compromised and some of our sources may be in danger because of her. She is careless with her job at least and dangerous and deadly at the extreme.

Vote for her, and then be careful how you explain your vote to your family. You may be losing a lot of respect when they hear that you voted for a criminal.

Guest
07-22-2016, 08:24 PM
True. And apparently you still don't really get it. It's right there, you said it and yet, you ignore the indication.

Trump has been in business for many years, and has failed on a few projects. BUT, he has succeeded more than he has failed and is now a Billionaire with lots of experience at success. He has many years of success, versus Hillary's many years of failure. Hillary has failed at everything she has attempted and you still want to give her the top job in the world. Remind me not to hire you as a recruiter.

Trump has employed thousands of workers, including lots of women in high positions. And he paid them very well, equal to the men in the same positions. Hillary paid her few women gov workers less than her men. How may jobs has Hillary created? What is her claim to success? We know she has failed a lot, but we never hear of any success stories. The whole middle east went to sh*t during her watch and with her policies.

I have heard many many good things about Trump, but I have not heard anything good about Hillary. She thinks ONLY of herself. I have researched to find something good that Hillary has accomplished, and found NOTHING. In her whole tenure in congress, she authored three DO-NOTHING bills. We already know she was a miserable failure as SecState. Believe me, I am a retired employee of State. We also know that her charity is a scam, only 6-8% actually going to charity, and the rest goes to admin. Admin that pays for jetting about of the Clintons, lavish meals and hotel stays and high pay for their speeches. And it is being investigated for tax fraud. Not a good thing.

Trump has been around in the spot light for decades and the left has no dirt of merit to use against him. Either he is REALLY. Really good at hiding dirt or he is what you see.

I did not like Trump when he threw his name into the campaign, but the more I have learned about him, the more I have been impressed.

Trump has my vote, my wife's vote and my four children's votes. They came up with their decision before I did.

You can vote for Hillary, and then go and wash your hands. Think about those folks in Benghazi that died under her watch. And think about the possibility that some of our top secret information may be out there, compromised and some of our sources may be in danger because of her. She is careless with her job at least and dangerous and deadly at the extreme.

Vote for her, and then be careful how you explain your vote to your family. You may be losing a lot of respect when they hear that you voted for a criminal.

I agree with you 100% however you will become very frustrated posting on the Political section or any other section on " Talk " .
If the people who post on this site are reflective of the population of the Villages as a whole God help us !
Most of the posters sound like a bunch of spoiled 12 and 13 year olds who still expect their parents to dress them each day and do their homework for them .
There is a very sad lack of general business knowledge or any level of sophistication of thought exhibited on this site .
About 90% who post think that the government is supposed to replace their parents and the Developer should also be functioning as a benevolent parent .
Profits are a dirty word and the wealth envy is profoundly evident .
Such people are immature bores and I want nothing to do with them .

Guest
07-22-2016, 08:38 PM
I agree with you 100% however you will become very frustrated posting on the Political section or any other section on " Talk " .
If the people who post on this site are reflective of the population of the Villages as a whole God help us !
Most of the posters sound like a bunch of spoiled 12 and 13 year olds who still expect their parents to dress them each day and do their homework for them .
There is a very sad lack of general business knowledge or any level of sophistication of thought exhibited on this site .
About 90% who post think that the government is supposed to replace their parents and the Developer should also be functioning as a benevolent parent .
Profits are a dirty word and the wealth envy is profoundly evident .
Such people are immature bores and I want nothing to do with them .

Totally agree. But, I doubt that the majority of villagers are like that. Of course, we are getting a lot of liberals from up North, but the majority of residents here right now are conservatives.

They are in for a big shock if Hillary does get elected.
First off, in order to fulfill her promise to Bernie (I doubt she will) EVERYONE's taxes will automatically have to be increased to pay for the free college. It will cost trillions.'
In order to produce a single payer system, she will also have to increase payroll taxes substantially, on EVERYONE.
When she increases the minimum salary, all products will increase in cost.
When she furthers Obie's clean air program, thousands of coal miners will be unemployed. Energy will cost more so your power bill will go up.

And these are just the domestic issues. We won't go into her failure with foreign policy.

Guest
07-22-2016, 09:13 PM
Totally agree. But, I doubt that the majority of villagers are like that. Of course, we are getting a lot of liberals from up North, but the majority of residents here right now are conservatives.

They are in for a big shock if Hillary does get elected.
First off, in order to fulfill her promise to Bernie (I doubt she will) EVERYONE's taxes will automatically have to be increased to pay for the free college. It will cost trillions.'
In order to produce a single payer system, she will also have to increase payroll taxes substantially, on EVERYONE.
When she increases the minimum salary, all products will increase in cost.
When she furthers Obie's clean air program, thousands of coal miners will be unemployed. Energy will cost more so your power bill will go up.

And these are just the domestic issues. We won't go into her failure with foreign policy.

The worst...she'll mandate landlords take section 8 irregardless of the rent. We may soon regret all the rentals in the villages.

Guest
07-23-2016, 12:54 AM
The worst...she'll mandate landlords take section 8 irregardless of the rent. We may soon regret all the rentals in the villages.

You are very correct ! This issue will be fully upon us very soon and sooner if she is elected .

Forcing Section 8 Housing into every Zip Code and incorporated
Town and Village in America is one of OB`s major items on his to be completed domestic agenda .

And he is doing it by tying Federal Funding for say schools to the acceptance and creation of such housing in each and every community .
It will also be tied to rental properties by some means .
In the meanwhile the voters are fast asleep and more focused in this community on the fear that a Development Company might be making an extra dollar form them .
Wait until the Section 8 provisions hit even age restricted communities such as this one .

Guest
07-23-2016, 04:19 AM
You are very correct ! This issue will be fully upon us very soon and sooner if she is elected .

Forcing Section 8 Housing into every Zip Code and incorporated
Town and Village in America is one of OB`s major items on his to be completed domestic agenda .

And he is doing it by tying Federal Funding for say schools to the acceptance and creation of such housing in each and every community .
It will also be tied to rental properties by some means .
In the meanwhile the voters are fast asleep and more focused in this community on the fear that a Development Company might be making an extra dollar form them .
Wait until the Section 8 provisions hit even age restricted communities such as this one .

It's too late now. The development is almost complete. You can't mandate section 8 housing in areas that are already established. They could mandate section 8 housing in any new residential construction on the outskirts of The Villages, but not IN The Villages. Liberals can gloat all they want with the threat (they are not happy until they can make others miserable) but the worst that can happen here in The Villages is that another liberal from the North moves into the neighborhood. But, we are a decent bunch and will humor them as well as ignore them. Personally, I do not mind my liberal neighbors because most of them are amenity paying snow birds. Snow birds pay our amenities while they stay up North most of the year. It may be hot here during the summer but not so crowded and it leaves the courts and courses less crowded, while the snow birds are also hot up North but without the activities we have. As a matter of fact, it frequently gets hotter up North than here.

So, section 8 housing threat in The Villages? I'm not worrying about it. It won't happen.

Guest
07-23-2016, 04:20 AM
There are many Liberal Arts colleges and Universities today that do not have set Majors .

Instead they allow the students to " create their own Majors ".

One such well known school is Brown University . I am familiar with this trend because in my former life I recruited both Undergrads and MBA`s for employment .

The lack of basic knowledge and basic skills of these young people who have had over $250,000 spent on their undergrad education is stunning .

Just no comparison to the young people I saw coming out of well known and respected universities 20 years ago .

me too recruited, interviewed, hired, trained, managed... Sad so sad

Sadder is that you can see from this forum and the presidential campaigns that people prefer to blame ridicule, label, rather than focus on America's problems with well thought out solutions. Perhaps its all circular in that they never were taught how to think logically but only to emote. Its enough to make even an atheist pray.

Personal Best Regards:

Guest
07-23-2016, 04:51 AM
me too recruited, interviewed, hired, trained, managed... Sad so sad

Sadder is that you can see from this forum and the presidential campaigns that people prefer to blame ridicule, label, rather than focus on America's problems with well thought out solutions. Perhaps its all circular in that they never were taught how to think logically but only to emote. Its enough to make even an atheist pray.

Personal Best Regards:

You have to play to the voters. They do not want facts or policies and don't recognize them when they are given. They want entertainment. America craves, is addicted to entertainment. They love the villain, so they will support an evil person like Hillary. They excuse her multiple crimes and disparage a successful person like Trump, because of wealth envy. Actually, I was not enamored with Trump, but the more I learn of him and his private life, the more I respect him. He has privately helped a lot of folks and it is too bad that he does not allow these things to be publicized because it would help him in popularity. It now appears that he is a lot of huff and puff, but underneath he is a hard charging worker. He has become successful because he has failed on occasion. He has learned by his failures.

Walt Disney went bankrupt in 1921 and built a billion dollar business.
Henry Ford went bankrupt in 1903 and built a multi-billion dollar empire.

Of course, no one gives the Clintons credit for their rise to multi-million dollar success, after leaving the White House "dirt poor" because most of their money came from selling favors, I mean donors from Foreigners seeking favors and speeches given to big business for fees of half million to million bucks a pop. The only thing they have built is a multi-million dollar charity scam that is being investigated for tax fraud.

So, when liberals cut down on Trump for a couple of his bankrupt ventures, I find it disingenuous. Our country is on the brink of bankruptcy and we have already seen the lack of business sense in D.C. so what does America have to lose?

Guest
07-23-2016, 04:53 AM
It's too late now. The development is almost complete. You can't mandate section 8 housing in areas that are already established. They could mandate section 8 housing in any new residential construction on the outskirts of The Villages, but not IN The Villages. Liberals can gloat all they want with the threat (they are not happy until they can make others miserable) but the worst that can happen here in The Villages is that another liberal from the North moves into the neighborhood. But, we are a decent bunch and will humor them as well as ignore them. Personally, I do not mind my liberal neighbors because most of them are amenity paying snow birds. Snow birds pay our amenities while they stay up North most of the year. It may be hot here during the summer but not so crowded and it leaves the courts and courses less crowded, while the snow birds are also hot up North but without the activities we have. As a matter of fact, it frequently gets hotter up North than here.

So, section 8 housing threat in The Villages? I'm not worrying about it. It won't happen.

What you're thinking of is low income housing.

This is MANDATING that ALL house rentals, no matter the "rent amount", will be open to section 8. Landlords will be forced to take the voucher and then will get tax credits for the rent over the amount the voucher will pay.

They want to "bust" EVERY neighborhood.

me too recruited, interviewed, hired, trained, managed... Sad so sad

Sadder is that you can see from this forum and the presidential campaigns that people prefer to blame ridicule, label, rather than focus on America's problems with well thought out solutions. Perhaps its all circular in that they never were taught how to think logically but only to emote. Its enough to make even an atheist pray.

Personal Best Regards:

The "solution" is to decrease the amount of minorities in this country. We're currently heading in the opposite direction and we'll be the minority soon.

Guest
07-23-2016, 05:18 AM
What you're thinking of is low income housing.

This is MANDATING that ALL house rentals, no matter the "rent amount", will be open to section 8. Landlords will be forced to take the voucher and then will get tax credits for the rent over the amount the voucher will pay.

They want to "bust" EVERY neighborhood.



The "solution" is to decrease the amount of minorities in this country. We're currently heading in the opposite direction and we'll be the minority soon.

No, it still won't work in The Villages. Most of the rentals are short term and private rentals. Section 8 housing does not pertain to "vacation" rentals.

Guest
07-23-2016, 05:55 AM
No, it still won't work in The Villages. Most of the rentals are short term and private rentals. Section 8 housing does not pertain to "vacation" rentals.

Please stop talking if you don't know what you're talking about. There ARE long term rentals in the villages, not MOST...but ENOUGH to make this place just like every other "diversified" sh!thole if "they" start moving in.

I bet the people living in Bridgeport can't wait to have "grandma" from the projects move into the 4,000 SF home next door. There'll be plenty of room for her 8 children and 28 grandchildren to visit...and that family pool...MUCH better than an open fire hydrant.

I can't wait to diversify the villages!
/s

Guest
07-23-2016, 07:23 AM
Please stop talking if you don't know what you're talking about. There ARE long term rentals in the villages, not MOST...but ENOUGH to make this place just like every other "diversified" sh!thole if "they" start moving in.

I bet the people living in Bridgeport can't wait to have "grandma" from the projects move into the 4,000 SF home next door. There'll be plenty of room for her 8 children and 28 grandchildren to visit...and that family pool...MUCH better than an open fire hydrant.

I can't wait to diversify the villages!
/s

It goes both ways. It is you that is fear mongering, by making ludicrous suggestions that can't happen.

Long term rentals? Sure, my son has a long term rental. Do you actually think that he would rent to section 8? Nope. He can easily go back to short term rental on it. He only went long term because it was an offer and it was convenient. No one is going to allow section 8 in The Villages. It just won't happen. You can spout all of your racist cr@p and worry people about diversity, but no one will bite. I am a conservative, but I will disavow anyone that spouts your divisive cr@p just as I disavow our current Divider-in-Chief for his racist, anti-police cr@p.

So, my advice to you is that if you don't like it here, then move. It's still possible to get top dollar on your home, IF you really live here.

Guest
07-23-2016, 08:33 AM
The worst...she'll mandate landlords take section 8 irregardless of the rent. We may soon regret all the rentals in the villages.

Why should you be excluded?

Guest
07-23-2016, 09:43 AM
Why should you be excluded?

Does Freedom ring a bell?

Guest
07-23-2016, 11:55 AM
It's too late now. The development is almost complete. You can't mandate section 8 housing in areas that are already established. They could mandate section 8 housing in any new residential construction on the outskirts of The Villages, but not IN The Villages. Liberals can gloat all they want with the threat (they are not happy until they can make others miserable) but the worst that can happen here in The Villages is that another liberal from the North moves into the neighborhood. But, we are a decent bunch and will humor them as well as ignore them. Personally, I do not mind my liberal neighbors because most of them are amenity paying snow birds. Snow birds pay our amenities while they stay up North most of the year. It may be hot here during the summer but not so crowded and it leaves the courts and courses less crowded, while the snow birds are also hot up North but without the activities we have. As a matter of fact, it frequently gets hotter up North than here.

So, section 8 housing threat in The Villages? I'm not worrying about it. It won't happen.

I appreciate your well thought out response and I certainly hope that you are 100% correct .
Before I moved down here I lived for 5 years in small town on an island . Population about 12,000 . It was pretty much crime free .
Then came Section 8 Housing which somehow got attached to some type of Federal Grant towards a new updated water treatment system .
It wasn`t long and we had hard narcotics in our high school and many many break-ins committed by young men who lived in the Section 8 housing .

Guest
07-23-2016, 12:32 PM
I appreciate your well thought out response and I certainly hope that you are 100% correct .
Before I moved down here I lived for 5 years in small town on an island . Population about 12,000 . It was pretty much crime free .
Then came Section 8 Housing which somehow got attached to some type of Federal Grant towards a new updated water treatment system .
It wasn`t long and we had hard narcotics in our high school and many many break-ins committed by young men who lived in the Section 8 housing .

Ouch! No wonder you are worried. We do have a lot of pubic highway going around and through the Villages, so it IS possible for Sect 8 to pop up very close to home. But, I believe we are safe INSIDE the Bubble.

Guest
07-23-2016, 07:06 PM
I appreciate your well thought out response and I certainly hope that you are 100% correct .
Before I moved down here I lived for 5 years in small town on an island . Population about 12,000 . It was pretty much crime free .
Then came Section 8 Housing which somehow got attached to some type of Federal Grant towards a new updated water treatment system .
It wasn`t long and we had hard narcotics in our high school and many many break-ins committed by young men who lived in the Section 8 housing .

Ouch! No wonder you are worried. We do have a lot of pubic highway going around and through the Villages, so it IS possible for Sect 8 to pop up very close to home. But, I believe we are safe INSIDE the Bubble.

You're wrong, both of you. They want ANY rental house available to section 8. ESPECIALLY in affluent areas. They want to "bust" every neighborhood. You won't get families living here, you could get grandma. And then her "immediate family" is eligible for guest passes...all 35 of them. If they get their way, the villages you've known will be gone.

Why do liberals want to destroy others freedoms? Freedom to associate.

Diversity ALWAYS ends the same. Sh!t.

Guest
07-24-2016, 04:45 AM
You're wrong, both of you. They want ANY rental house available to section 8. ESPECIALLY in affluent areas. They want to "bust" every neighborhood. You won't get families living here, you could get grandma. And then her "immediate family" is eligible for guest passes...all 35 of them. If they get their way, the villages you've known will be gone.

Why do liberals want to destroy others freedoms? Freedom to associate.

Diversity ALWAYS ends the same. Sh!t.

You're paranoid. You can believe anything you wish, but you are wrong on this. But, like I said believe anything you wish. You can't put section 8 housing in here. It doesn't fit the criteria. If you are so worried, buy yourself ten acres out in the boonies and set up camp there, away from everyone else. I did it in the foothills of NC and loved it, but my wife comes first in my life and she loves it here. I can be happy anywhere that includes my wife. I almost lost her to cancer, so now where I live is not as important as who I live it with.

Guest
07-24-2016, 05:18 AM
You're paranoid. You can believe anything you wish, but you are wrong on this. But, like I said believe anything you wish. You can't put section 8 housing in here. It doesn't fit the criteria. If you are so worried, buy yourself ten acres out in the boonies and set up camp there, away from everyone else. I did it in the foothills of NC and loved it, but my wife comes first in my life and she loves it here. I can be happy anywhere that includes my wife. I almost lost her to cancer, so now where I live is not as important as who I live it with.

section 8 housing in affluent neighborhoods - Google Search (https://www.google.com/search?q=section+8+housing+in+affluent+neighborhoo ds&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8)

YOU are wrong.

Guest
07-24-2016, 05:37 AM
section 8 housing in affluent neighborhoods - Google Search (https://www.google.com/search?q=section+8+housing+in+affluent+neighborhoo ds&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8)

YOU are wrong.

Like I said, it won't happen here. It does not fit the criteria. Take your paranoia to another subject, because this one doesn't mesh with your worries. You are nothing but a fear monger. At the rate you worry, you won't live long enough for any of your paranoia to come to fruition.

Guest
07-24-2016, 06:09 AM
You're wrong, both of you. They want ANY rental house available to section 8. ESPECIALLY in affluent areas. They want to "bust" every neighborhood. You won't get families living here, you could get grandma. And then her "immediate family" is eligible for guest passes...all 35 of them. If they get their way, the villages you've known will be gone.

Why do liberals want to destroy others freedoms? Freedom to associate.

Diversity ALWAYS ends the same. Sh!t.

True, it is also up to the owner to sign up for section 8. There a numerous "investors in TV , so the program may be appealing with a guaranteed check every month. There may already be section 8 occupied as many seniors, especially singles, are low income, under guideline around $30,000.

Guest
07-24-2016, 06:12 AM
You have to play to the voters. They do not want facts or policies and don't recognize them when they are given. They want entertainment. America craves, is addicted to entertainment. They love the villain, so they will support an evil person like Hillary. They excuse her multiple crimes and disparage a successful person like Trump, because of wealth envy. Actually, I was not enamored with Trump, but the more I learn of him and his private life, the more I respect him. He has privately helped a lot of folks and it is too bad that he does not allow these things to be publicized because it would help him in popularity. It now appears that he is a lot of huff and puff, but underneath he is a hard charging worker. He has become successful because he has failed on occasion. He has learned by his failures.

Walt Disney went bankrupt in 1921 and built a billion dollar business.
Henry Ford went bankrupt in 1903 and built a multi-billion dollar empire.

Of course, no one gives the Clintons credit for their rise to multi-million dollar success, after leaving the White House "dirt poor" because most of their money came from selling favors, I mean donors from Foreigners seeking favors and speeches given to big business for fees of half million to million bucks a pop. The only thing they have built is a multi-million dollar charity scam that is being investigated for tax fraud.

So, when liberals cut down on Trump for a couple of his bankrupt ventures, I find it disingenuous. Our country is on the brink of bankruptcy and we have already seen the lack of business sense in D.C. so what does America have to lose?


"So, when liberals cut down on Trump for a couple of his bankrupt ventures"

"Donald Trump has filed for corporate bankruptcy four times, in 1991, 1992, 2004 and 2009."

How many small businesses did he destroy, and the people's lives that owned and worked for them? So just slough it off and the hell with the people.

Guest
07-24-2016, 06:30 AM
Like I said, it won't happen here. It does not fit the criteria. Take your paranoia to another subject, because this one doesn't mesh with your worries. You are nothing but a fear monger. At the rate you worry, you won't live long enough for any of your paranoia to come to fruition.

Not now, but that is what the liberals want. Hillary will continue to push what Obama started.

True, it is also up to the owner to sign up for section 8. There a numerous "investors in TV , so the program may be appealing with a guaranteed check every month. There may already be section 8 occupied as many seniors, especially singles, are low income, under guideline around $30,000.

The TENANT signs up for section 8 and gets vouchers to go house hunting. Right now the federal law doesn't require that landlords accept the vouchers but many cities and states ARE requiring landlords to accept section 8 vouchers. Liberals DO want landlords to have to accept them.

do landlords have to accept section 8 vouchers - Google Search (https://www.google.com/search?q=do+landlords+have+to+accept+section+8+vou chers&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8)

Guest
07-24-2016, 07:22 AM
Not now, but that is what the liberals want. Hillary will continue to push what Obama started.



The TENANT signs up for section 8 and gets vouchers to go house hunting. Right now the federal law doesn't require that landlords accept the vouchers but many cities and states ARE requiring landlords to accept section 8 vouchers. Liberals DO want landlords to have to accept them.

do landlords have to accept section 8 vouchers - Google Search (https://www.google.com/search?q=do+landlords+have+to+accept+section+8+vou chers&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8)

If they do not live in the house, such as a two family, they cannot refuse if the tenant has a good background and can pay the rent. Yes, the tenant signs up, presents voucher to landlord and landlord signs up, house is inspected and if approved, it's a go.

Guest
07-24-2016, 07:24 AM
"So, when liberals cut down on Trump for a couple of his bankrupt ventures"

"Donald Trump has filed for corporate bankruptcy four times, in 1991, 1992, 2004 and 2009."

How many small businesses did he destroy, and the people's lives that owned and worked for them? So just slough it off and the hell with the people.

I'd venture a guess that not as many were destroyed in Trumps failures as were killed in all the Democrat started wars. But, that is just a guess. How many died in Vietnam? Something like 60K and then about 50k suicides, right? And how many other wars? I believe that the latest, Iraqi and Afgan combined is small potatoes in comparison. But, I digress.

Do you want to talk about Hillary's failures and how many people have been affected by them? WE can do that, but I know you are too lazy to google so I would have to do all the work. And that is typical mindset for liberals - get someone else to do the work. So, speaking of Trump how many people that got laid off are still not working? Speaking of Trump, how many people have benefited from his investments? How many jobs has he created? How many jobs has Hillary created? What has Hillary done that has benefited America, and not just her?

The thread was not about Trump's bankrupted businesses. An off hand remark does not mean a cause to divert to another subject.