Enough with the bitching, moaning and whining...

[Guest]

It's time to actually do what the candidates should be doing, but aren't, and that is to propose specific ideas on solving our political problems.

Here, I'll start. :D

- I say that we should pay a salary that attracts bright people and competes with what they can make in private business. While some people may think that a base of $174,000 a year salary for Senators and Congressman is a fortune, the truth of the matter is that it’s actually very low compared to what even the average bright person can make in the private sector. When you add the additional cost of maintaining two residences (very few of their families follow them to DC), and even with their office allowances, it makes it so tough that Congressman and Senators have been sharing apartments for years. So let’s make the pay $250,000 per year and with the term limit I suggest below, it will allow someone who might not otherwise think of serving...to do so.

- Another thing that needs to be laid to rest, is the false rumor spread about how Congress is guaranteed this salary for the rest of their lives ( for even one or two terms). This is totally false, but I won’t get into it in depth here. Suffice to say and to try and set the record straight, any retirement/pension they currently receive is similar to other Civil Service/FERS employees and is a function of the number of years (a % for each year) times the number of years of service.

- Regarding term limits, although that's a tough one, something definitely needs to be done. The shorter the term, the more they will be tempted to set something up quickly for themselves for when their term is through or begging for donations for their next election. The way it is now, a Congressman is voted in for only two years. If a person has decided that they want to be more than a one term Congressman, what do you think they’re doing the minute they get sworn in for their term? EXACTLY, they have to immediately start campaigning and looking for donations for their next term! No one with any common sense can fail to see that if a Congressman has another election in two years, they are not concentrating on doing their job and are much more concerned with trying to get more donations. And while Senators are elected for four years, they are almost in the exact same boat and have the exact same goals.

- Given the current situation, there is way too much potential for ingratiating themselves with big business/industries to either get donations or set themselves up for a much better paying job when they get out. Being a current professional politician has shown to have these exact problems. They seem to spend more time trying to get reelected or ingratiating themselves with businesses/industries… than taking care of business.

- So maybe make it a single 6 year term for both Senators and Congressman, so they can concentrate on governing and then they don't have to spend their time campaigning to get reelected, or sucking up to businesses/industries for future employment.

- In other words, I believe lengthening the terms for Senators and Representatives to one 6 year term, will eliminate a lot of the problems we have now of politicians being in constant "campaign/job seeking mode."

- I also believe that campaign reform along the lines below, will greatly reduce the need for elected officials to "pay back" those who donated a lot of money for them to get elected. Because I don’t care what anyone says, if someone donates a lot of money to your campaign, anyone with a modicum of intelligence knows damned well that candidate will look favorably upon that donor.

Consequently, I suggest:

1. Eliminating all private/business/PAC campaign contributions, except $50 from individuals only.

2. Establish a new tax on businesses that is used for the 'election pot.' And yes, I can hear the screaming now but.....since these same businesses will no longer be able to contribute directly (or through lobbyists/PAC’s), they will probably find that they are actually spending less money.

3. Give each candidate a set amount of campaign money........ and they have to determine how they want to best spend it. If they want to blow it on a few expensive TV ads, so be it. I’m guessing though, they will choose to figure out more cost effective ways to reach out to the voters and let them get to know the candidate better.

4. Limit access of lobbyists to politicians. Much like agents are limited in their access to amateur athletes, the number of lobbyists running around the halls of Congress is not much different than an infestation of cockroaches.

5. Mandate a quarterly report that shows every single lobbyist/interest group/individual that has met with each politician....and any votes made by that politician that could even be obliquely construed as affecting them.


- It is my opinion that although some will cry about muzzling their 'freedom of speech' (by limiting campaign amounts), if we were to allow smart, dedicated regular citizens (who can't afford it now) be able to run for a public office, we will get back to what was envisioned by the FF’s…which is a 'citizen legislature.'

Instead of the current lifetime occupation of.... 'Politician'…..soon followed by ‘Lobbyist.’


OK y’all, instead of the usual 2 or 3 sentence sound bites and personal attacks, quit being so lazy and let’s hear what you think will help solve our current problems.

:popcorn:

:wave:


CNM

[Guest]

It's time to actually do what the candidates should be doing, but aren't, and that is to propose specific ideas on solving our political problems.

Here, I'll start. :D

- I say that we should pay a salary that attracts bright people and competes with what they can make in private business. While some people may think that a base of $174,000 a year salary for Senators and Congressman is a fortune, the truth of the matter is that it’s actually very low compared to what even the average bright person can make in the private sector. When you add the additional cost of maintaining two residences (very few of their families follow them to DC), and even with their office allowances, it makes it so tough that Congressman and Senators have been sharing apartments for years. So let’s make the pay $250,000 per year and with the term limit I suggest below, it will allow someone who might not otherwise think of serving...to do so.

- Another thing that needs to be laid to rest, is the false rumor spread about how Congress is guaranteed this salary for the rest of their lives ( for even one or two terms). This is totally false, but I won’t get into it in depth here. Suffice to say and to try and set the record straight, any retirement/pension they currently receive is similar to other Civil Service/FERS employees and is a function of the number of years (a % for each year) times the number of years of service.

- Regarding term limits, although that's a tough one, something definitely needs to be done. The shorter the term, the more they will be tempted to set something up quickly for themselves for when their term is through or begging for donations for their next election. The way it is now, a Congressman is voted in for only two years. If a person has decided that they want to be more than a one term Congressman, what do you think they’re doing the minute they get sworn in for their term? EXACTLY, they have to immediately start campaigning and looking for donations for their next term! No one with any common sense can fail to see that if a Congressman has another election in two years, they are not concentrating on doing their job and are much more concerned with trying to get more donations. And while Senators are elected for four years, they are almost in the exact same boat and have the exact same goals.

- Given the current situation, there is way too much potential for ingratiating themselves with big business/industries to either get donations or set themselves up for a much better paying job when they get out. Being a current professional politician has shown to have these exact problems. They seem to spend more time trying to get reelected or ingratiating themselves with businesses/industries… than taking care of business.

- So maybe make it a single 6 year term for both Senators and Congressman, so they can concentrate on governing and then they don't have to spend their time campaigning to get reelected, or sucking up to businesses/industries for future employment.

- In other words, I believe lengthening the terms for Senators and Representatives to one 6 year term, will eliminate a lot of the problems we have now of politicians being in constant "campaign/job seeking mode."

- I also believe that campaign reform along the lines below, will greatly reduce the need for elected officials to "pay back" those who donated a lot of money for them to get elected. Because I don’t care what anyone says, if someone donates a lot of money to your campaign, anyone with a modicum of intelligence knows damned well that candidate will look favorably upon that donor.

Consequently, I suggest:

1. Eliminating all private/business/PAC campaign contributions, except $50 from individuals only.

2. Establish a new tax on businesses that is used for the 'election pot.' And yes, I can hear the screaming now but.....since these same businesses will no longer be able to contribute directly (or through lobbyists/PAC’s), they will probably find that they are actually spending less money.

3. Give each candidate a set amount of campaign money........ and they have to determine how they want to best spend it. If they want to blow it on a few expensive TV ads, so be it. I’m guessing though, they will choose to figure out more cost effective ways to reach out to the voters and let them get to know the candidate better.

4. Limit access of lobbyists to politicians. Much like agents are limited in their access to amateur athletes, the number of lobbyists running around the halls of Congress is not much different than an infestation of cockroaches.

5. Mandate a quarterly report that shows every single lobbyist/interest group/individual that has met with each politician....and any votes made by that politician that could even be obliquely construed as affecting them.


- It is my opinion that although some will cry about muzzling their 'freedom of speech' (by limiting campaign amounts), if we were to allow smart, dedicated regular citizens (who can't afford it now) be able to run for a public office, we will get back to what was envisioned by the FF’s…which is a 'citizen legislature.'

Instead of the current lifetime occupation of.... 'Politician'…..soon followed by ‘Lobbyist.’


OK y’all, instead of the usual 2 or 3 sentence sound bites and personal attacks, quit being so lazy and let’s hear what you think will help solve our current problems.

:popcorn:

:wave:


CNM

And that affects us how? Other than the money part of the equation, this is the most unimportant part of this election cycle. There are many, much more important issues at stake. And if you weren't so lazy, you would go to the candidate's website and you would know that they have their own ideas about how to handle specific issues. But, typical liberal that needs someone else to do the work for them.

[Guest]

And that affects us how? Other than the money part of the equation, this is the most unimportant part of this election cycle. There are many, much more important issues at stake. And if you weren't so lazy, you would go to the candidate's website and you would know that they have their own ideas about how to handle specific issues. But, typical liberal that needs someone else to do the work for them.


I should have known to ask for this.....
OK y’all, instead of the usual 2 or 3 sentence sound bites and personal attacks, quit being so lazy and let’s hear what you think will help solve our current problems. ......would mean some weren't capable.


Campaign reform and the unlimited amount of money that is allowed to buy candidates.....IS the primary problem.

That you prefer to ignore that...is not surprising.

That you're too lazy to even offer your own ideas...is not surprising either.

Now run along and let's wait and see if any adults aren't too lazy to proffer their own ideas.


:wave:

CNM

[Guest]

While term limits seem appealing on the surface, you must realize that the effect is to eliminate all senior leadership.
Imagine a corporation where no one has been employed for more than 6 years. Imagine a military with no officers serving for more than 6 years. Imagine a doctor who cannot have more than 6 years experience.
Term limits solve the impetus for re-election problem, but create many more problems in its place.

[Guest]

I should have known to ask for this.....
......would mean some weren't capable.


Campaign reform and the unlimited amount of money that is allowed to buy candidates.....IS the primary problem.

That you prefer to ignore that...is not surprising.

That you're too lazy to even offer your own ideas...is not surprising either.

Now run along and let's wait and see if any adults aren't too lazy to proffer their own ideas.


:wave:

CNM

So, you are finally going to change your ways and demand everyone else discuss issues? What a useless hypocrite! You have already lost all credibility. Go away.

[Guest]

So, you are finally going to change your ways and demand everyone else discuss issues? What a useless hypocrite! You have already lost all credibility. Go away.

I have discussed MANY issues and provided links backing up my POV, (whereby you haven't)......and can only prove how prescient I was when I wrote this. ;)


OK y’all, instead of the usual 2 or 3 sentence sound bites and personal attacks, quit being so lazy and let’s hear what you think will help solve our current problems.


It must really suck to realize, that you are so pitifully transparent. :1rotfl:

:wave:

CNM

[Guest]

Campaign reform and the unlimited amount of money that is allowed to buy candidates.....IS the primary problem.
:wave:

CNM

No I don't feel that is the primary problem. I feel the lack of pride is the primary problem in this country.

There seems to be too many pride-less people that have not been successful enough in life to be generous with their own money, so they want to force others that have been successful to give money away to people that don't have enough pride to work for a living. That practice has not helped anyone, it has held many back in life. It has created a society of people that have developed a sense of entitlement to those handouts. That is the primary problem facing this country today.

:sad:
CNM

[Guest]

- Another thing that needs to be laid to rest, is the false rumor spread about how Congress is guaranteed this salary for the rest of their lives ( for even one or two terms). This is totally false, but I won’t get into it in depth here.

:wave:


CNM

Go ahead feel free to get into depth here...

:sad:

CNM

[Guest]

No I don't feel that is the primary problem. I feel the lack of pride is the primary problem in this country.

There seems to be too many pride-less people that have not been successful enough in life to be generous with their own money, so they want to force others that have been successful to give money away to people that don't have enough pride to work for a living. That practice has not helped anyone, it has held many back in life. It has created a society of people that have developed a sense of entitlement to those handouts. That is the primary problem facing this country today.

:sad:
CNM

LOL :1rotfl:

Signing my initials to something I didn't write, is the epitome of originality and desperation.

Thanks for showing all that you are so intimidated by me that you have to do it.


:wave:

The REAL CNM

[Guest]

go ahead feel free to get into depth here...

:sad:

Cnm

lol!

[Guest]

LOL :1rotfl:

Signing my initials to something I didn't write, is the epitome of originality and desperation.

Thanks for showing all that you are so intimidated by me that you have to do it.


:wave:

The REAL CNM

:icon_wink:

[Guest]

The term limits that the OP speaks of would be extremely hard, if not impossible, to achieve.

It would take a Constitutional Amendment to do it. The current terms are written into the Constitution. Congress cannot agree on simple things. They would never agree on shortening their cushy jobs.

[Guest]

:icon_wink:

Yep, typical.

Call anyone that makes you look like an idiot a 'troll.' :oops:


CNM

[Guest]

The term limits that the OP speaks of would be extremely hard, if not impossible, to achieve.

It would take a Constitutional Amendment to do it. The current terms are written into the Constitution. Congress cannot agree on simple things. They would never agree on shortening their cushy jobs.

Thank you for at least providing an intelligent response that isn't churlish. :thumbup:

While I tend to agree it would be very hard, just that fact alone that Congress would fight something that would eliminate their corrupt ways however...is something I think is worth pursuing.

CNM

[Guest]

The term limits that the OP speaks of would be extremely hard, if not impossible, to achieve.

It would take a Constitutional Amendment to do it. The current terms are written into the Constitution. Congress cannot agree on simple things. They would never agree on shortening their cushy jobs.

:agree:
Some folks didn't learn that in their middle school civics class so they need to be reminded. Term limits are more important to them than the state of our economy, employment, national defense and justice. They will ignore criminal activity and vote for the most corrupt candidate in Democrat history and then turn around and complain about turn limits and fight voter ID.

[Guest]

Thank you for at least providing an intelligent response that isn't churlish. :thumbup:

While I tend to agree it would be very hard, just that fact alone that Congress would fight something that would eliminate their corrupt ways however...is something I think is worth pursuing.

CNM

Because you agree with the response? If you don't, then it's "nasty and mean spirited"?

[Guest]

Because you agree with the response? If you don't, then it's "nasty and mean spirited"?

:agree:

[Guest]

Go ahead feel free to get into depth here...

:sad:

CNM

So, go ahead get into depth CNM:boxing2:

[Guest]

No I don't feel that is the primary problem. I feel the lack of pride is the primary problem in this country.

There seems to be too many pride-less people that have not been successful enough in life to be generous with their own money, so they want to force others that have been successful to give money away to people that don't have enough pride to work for a living. That practice has not helped anyone, it has held many back in life. It has created a society of people that have developed a sense of entitlement to those handouts. That is the primary problem facing this country today.

:sad:
CNM
This post sure doesn't sound like CNM. It must be a case of identity theft. CNM has definitely gotten into a few heads.

[Guest]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guest View Post
No I don't feel that is the primary problem. I feel the lack of pride is the primary problem in this country.

There seems to be too many pride-less people that have not been successful enough in life to be generous with their own money, so they want to force others that have been successful to give money away to people that don't have enough pride to work for a living. That practice has not helped anyone, it has held many back in life. It has created a society of people that have developed a sense of entitlement to those handouts. That is the primary problem facing this country today.


CNM


This post sure doesn't sound like CNM. It must be a case of identity theft. CNM has definitely gotten into a few heads.

Pride? ONLY minorities and women are ALLOWED to have any pride. And it's a false pride to boot. If you're a white male and you show you have "pride", you're called a racist or a misogynist.

I'm a white man, I have pride, I have the audacity to show it, and I'm called all kinds of names. People love to tear those above them down.

[Guest]

I should have known to ask for this.....
......would mean some weren't capable.


Campaign reform and the unlimited amount of money that is allowed to buy candidates.....IS the primary problem.

That you prefer to ignore that...is not surprising.

That you're too lazy to even offer your own ideas...is not surprising either.

Now run along and let's wait and see if any adults aren't too lazy to proffer their own ideas.


:wave:

CNM

You certainly DO NOT have a way with words!

[Guest]

This post sure doesn't sound like CNM. It must be a case of identity theft. CNM has definitely gotten into a few heads.


The above was posted by CNM .

[Guest]

Oh no....there could be more than one CNM imposter!







CNm

[Guest]

Today we are celebrating the wit and profound wisdom of CNM !

The Real CNM

[Guest]

This post sure doesn't sound like CNM. It must be a case of identity theft. CNM has definitely gotten into a few heads.

Chi-town - I am surprised that you didn't give CNM the same advice you gave me, when I first came on here. You told me that I didn't belong here. I took that as an insult, but it wasn't.

Anyone that wants to talk politics doesn't belong here. This forum is for Republicans that want to follow the lead of the party, and do nothing but criticize, condemn, and complain. Blame Democrats for everything that is wrong with the world, but hardly ever support their rants with anything other than what right wing clowns, and Fox Noise puke mouths of their mouths, or wherever.

CNM - When someone tells you to supply details for one of your statements, and you do, I can guarantee you that will be the end of the post. Since they never supply details, they assume that you can't either. In their minds going to the extreme is the ultimate destination. If Hillary is elected, the world will end. Obama tried, but couldn't complete his goal. Both houses of the Republican congress are exhausted for all the hard work that they had to do opposing everything that he put forward. They will not be able to stop round two of the end of the world.

Even if Trump is elected, the world will come to an end. That is why Trump stated that he wouldn't rule out using nuclear bombs. He wants to put everyone out of the misery in one big hurry. Why suffer? He is going to put an end to the world to end all suffering. What a guy!

[Guest]

Chi-town - I am surprised that you didn't give CNM the same advice you gave me, when I first came on here. You told me that I didn't belong here. I took that as an insult, but it wasn't.

Anyone that wants to talk politics doesn't belong here. This forum is for Republicans that want to follow the lead of the party, and do nothing but criticize, condemn, and complain. Blame Democrats for everything that is wrong with the world, but hardly ever support their rants with anything other than what right wing clowns, and Fox Noise puke mouths of their mouths, or wherever.

CNM - When someone tells you to supply details for one of your statements, and you do, I can guarantee you that will be the end of the post. Since they never supply details, they assume that you can't either. In their minds going to the extreme is the ultimate destination. If Hillary is elected, the world will end. Obama tried, but couldn't complete his goal. Both houses of the Republican congress are exhausted for all the hard work that they had to do opposing everything that he put forward. They will not be able to stop round two of the end of the world.

Even if Trump is elected, the world will come to an end. That is why Trump stated that he wouldn't rule out using nuclear bombs. He wants to put everyone out of the misery in one big hurry. Why suffer? He is going to put an end to the world to end all suffering. What a guy!

:loco:

[Guest]

It's time to actually do what the candidates should be doing, but aren't, and that is to propose specific ideas on solving our political problems.

Here, I'll start. :D

- I say that we should pay a salary that attracts bright people and competes with what they can make in private business. While some people may think that a base of $174,000 a year salary for Senators and Congressman is a fortune, the truth of the matter is that it’s actually very low compared to what even the average bright person can make in the private sector. When you add the additional cost of maintaining two residences (very few of their families follow them to DC), and even with their office allowances, it makes it so tough that Congressman and Senators have been sharing apartments for years. So let’s make the pay $250,000 per year and with the term limit I suggest below, it will allow someone who might not otherwise think of serving...to do so.

- Another thing that needs to be laid to rest, is the false rumor spread about how Congress is guaranteed this salary for the rest of their lives ( for even one or two terms). This is totally false, but I won’t get into it in depth here. Suffice to say and to try and set the record straight, any retirement/pension they currently receive is similar to other Civil Service/FERS employees and is a function of the number of years (a % for each year) times the number of years of service.

- Regarding term limits, although that's a tough one, something definitely needs to be done. The shorter the term, the more they will be tempted to set something up quickly for themselves for when their term is through or begging for donations for their next election. The way it is now, a Congressman is voted in for only two years. If a person has decided that they want to be more than a one term Congressman, what do you think they’re doing the minute they get sworn in for their term? EXACTLY, they have to immediately start campaigning and looking for donations for their next term! No one with any common sense can fail to see that if a Congressman has another election in two years, they are not concentrating on doing their job and are much more concerned with trying to get more donations. And while Senators are elected for four years, they are almost in the exact same boat and have the exact same goals.

- Given the current situation, there is way too much potential for ingratiating themselves with big business/industries to either get donations or set themselves up for a much better paying job when they get out. Being a current professional politician has shown to have these exact problems. They seem to spend more time trying to get reelected or ingratiating themselves with businesses/industries… than taking care of business.

- So maybe make it a single 6 year term for both Senators and Congressman, so they can concentrate on governing and then they don't have to spend their time campaigning to get reelected, or sucking up to businesses/industries for future employment.

- In other words, I believe lengthening the terms for Senators and Representatives to one 6 year term, will eliminate a lot of the problems we have now of politicians being in constant "campaign/job seeking mode."

- I also believe that campaign reform along the lines below, will greatly reduce the need for elected officials to "pay back" those who donated a lot of money for them to get elected. Because I don’t care what anyone says, if someone donates a lot of money to your campaign, anyone with a modicum of intelligence knows damned well that candidate will look favorably upon that donor.

Consequently, I suggest:

1. Eliminating all private/business/PAC campaign contributions, except $50 from individuals only.

2. Establish a new tax on businesses that is used for the 'election pot.' And yes, I can hear the screaming now but.....since these same businesses will no longer be able to contribute directly (or through lobbyists/PAC’s), they will probably find that they are actually spending less money.

3. Give each candidate a set amount of campaign money........ and they have to determine how they want to best spend it. If they want to blow it on a few expensive TV ads, so be it. I’m guessing though, they will choose to figure out more cost effective ways to reach out to the voters and let them get to know the candidate better.

4. Limit access of lobbyists to politicians. Much like agents are limited in their access to amateur athletes, the number of lobbyists running around the halls of Congress is not much different than an infestation of cockroaches.

5. Mandate a quarterly report that shows every single lobbyist/interest group/individual that has met with each politician....and any votes made by that politician that could even be obliquely construed as affecting them.


- It is my opinion that although some will cry about muzzling their 'freedom of speech' (by limiting campaign amounts), if we were to allow smart, dedicated regular citizens (who can't afford it now) be able to run for a public office, we will get back to what was envisioned by the FF’s…which is a 'citizen legislature.'

Instead of the current lifetime occupation of.... 'Politician'…..soon followed by ‘Lobbyist.’


OK y’all, instead of the usual 2 or 3 sentence sound bites and personal attacks, quit being so lazy and let’s hear what you think will help solve our current problems.

:popcorn:

:wave:


CNM

You are making a king size assumption, when it comes to Senators, and especially what Congressman can make in the real world. People of above average intelligence should be able to make over $174,000. that assumes that our elected officials have above average intelligence. Have you checked out the brain power in the Texas delegation? A lot of them can't find their ass with their both hands.

It is a joke to say that the representatives especially in the House have to start begging for funds immediately after being elected. Gerrymandering across the board is so wide spread that upon being elected, there is a better than average chance that you will run unopposed next time around.

There is an easy way to get rid of Gerrymandering. It is people running for the House run state wide. No more districts. Change the term to four years. The rural areas may not have people representing them. That is the price to be paid. It is not like the House gives a damn about people in rural areas anyway.

If corporations in this county were paying their fair share of federal income taxes, you may be able to have federally funded campaigns. Get rid of the 401(c) charitable groups. All donors to Pacs names will be made public. Let us see who is trying to buy what.

The plain and simple fact of the matter is right now that nothing is going to change. The parties have gone so far into their corners, that you couldn't get them to agree upon the time of day.

You don't go against your best interests. Our elected officials won't do anything to hurt them, or the people/businesses that got them there.

[Guest]

Chi-town - I am surprised that you didn't give CNM the same advice you gave me, when I first came on here. You told me that I didn't belong here. I took that as an insult, but it wasn't.

Anyone that wants to talk politics doesn't belong here. This forum is for Republicans that want to follow the lead of the party, and do nothing but criticize, condemn, and complain. Blame Democrats for everything that is wrong with the world, but hardly ever support their rants with anything other than what right wing clowns, and Fox Noise puke mouths of their mouths, or wherever.

CNM - When someone tells you to supply details for one of your statements, and you do, I can guarantee you that will be the end of the post. Since they never supply details, they assume that you can't either. In their minds going to the extreme is the ultimate destination. If Hillary is elected, the world will end. Obama tried, but couldn't complete his goal. Both houses of the Republican congress are exhausted for all the hard work that they had to do opposing everything that he put forward. They will not be able to stop round two of the end of the world.

Even if Trump is elected, the world will come to an end. That is why Trump stated that he wouldn't rule out using nuclear bombs. He wants to put everyone out of the misery in one big hurry. Why suffer? He is going to put an end to the world to end all suffering. What a guy!

:loco:

I blame BOTH "sides" for the destruction of this country. And yes, it's already been partially destroyed. It's already a shell of it's former glory. Why? The people changed. We went from proud and white...to mediocre and dark. We're still heading that way, towards darkness, it'll be complete within 30 years. They'll be the majority, they'll run things, they'll have all the power. Will it be better? Look at where they came from and you tell me what you think. You've left your grandchildren a stinking pile of ****. Europe too is getting dark, an invasion of "refugees". Western civilization has peaked and begun it's slide.

In all my dealing with CNM, it's her that stops responding when the facts start rolling out.

[Guest]

Once in a while I check these forums but always see CNM on them blathering away about some nonsense. CNM do you really have nothing better to do, is your life really just composed of monitoring these forums and berating others, how sad.

Its ironic that you go around putting others down, saying how lazy they are and that the country sucks, yada yada, but you are just sitting on your ass day after day and hour after hour trolling these forums. That sounds pretty lazy to me and not to mention not doing anything to contribute to society. Well good luck with that, hope it fills your emptiness and poor self esteem but doubt you'll mind happiness or purpose this way.

[Guest]

I blame BOTH "sides" for the destruction of this country. And yes, it's already been partially destroyed. It's already a shell of it's former glory. Why? The people changed. We went from proud and white...to mediocre and dark. We're still heading that way, towards darkness, it'll be complete within 30 years. They'll be the majority, they'll run things, they'll have all the power. Will it be better? Look at where they came from and you tell me what you think. You've left your grandchildren a stinking pile of ****. Europe too is getting dark, an invasion of "refugees". Western civilization has peaked and begun it's slide.

In all my dealing with CNM, it's her that stops responding when the facts start rolling out.


How exactly has the country been destroyed???

[Guest]

How exactly has the country been destroyed???

You either are too young to have known it before, or you are in total denial of reality!

[Guest]

You either are too young to have known it before, or you are in total denial of reality!

Good job, don't actually answer the question. Just make general statement about the country being destroyed but nothing to back it up with.

Please enlighten me, how had the country been destroyed? How is your life so horrible?

[Guest]

Good job, don't actually answer the question. Just make general statement about the country being destroyed but nothing to back it up with.

Please enlighten me, how had the country been destroyed? How is your life so horrible?

It's not HERE in the last bastion of "whiteness". But outside the bubble, it has and is getting worse. We were #1 in many areas, now we're lucky to be in the teens. Education is a broken mess, medicine is a broken mess, banking is a broken mess, the inner cities are a broken mess, it takes two incomes to make it, kids are idiots being raised by Lawanda, housing and education is unaffordable. What HASN'T gotten worse?

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It's not HERE in the last bastion of "whiteness". But outside the bubble, it has and is getting worse. We were #1 in many areas, now we're lucky to be in the teens. Education is a broken mess, medicine is a broken mess, banking is a broken mess, the inner cities are a broken mess, it takes two incomes to make it, kids are idiots being raised by Lawanda, housing and education is unaffordable. What HASN'T gotten worse?

Libtards think it's great...go figure!

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It's not HERE in the last bastion of "whiteness". But outside the bubble, it has and is getting worse. We were #1 in many areas, now we're lucky to be in the teens. Education is a broken mess, medicine is a broken mess, banking is a broken mess, the inner cities are a broken mess, it takes two incomes to make it, kids are idiots being raised by Lawanda, housing and education is unaffordable. What HASN'T gotten worse?


How is medicine a mess, we have the best physicians and medicine in the world?

We've never been the best in education, but ultimately that's parents responsibility. But education isn't worse, fact is more children have to go to college today than in the past to get a decent job.

Please banking a mess, that hasn't changed. Banking has always been crooked

When haven't the inner cities been a mess? But here you are wrong, there's actually less crime in places like NYC and elsewhere. Back in the day there were actually more murders and streets were more unsafe.

2 incomes to make it, well yeah, the economy has grown, cost of living has grown, inflation etc. Its great that the economy has grown so much, its called capitalism, what our country was founded on, hardly all for doomsday and saying that the country has been destroyed, quite the opposite.

I have to disagree that kids are idiots. Where's your proof?? I have kids and they are amazingly smart. There are millions of smart kids these days and as said before most have to go to college making them smarter then past generations.

How is education and housing unaffordable??? The housing market continues to grow meaning somebody is buying homes. I bought 2 new homes in the past 5 years without a problem. Education does cost money, I have student loans but just pay them like a mortgage, its an investment.


I think you really have a misperception of the world, perhaps due to matching too much news. People continuously say that America has been destroyed or that America needs to be great again. America is great, prosperous, and the world's super power. Economy is highest its ever been, unemployment is very low, housing market is growing, military is strongest in the world, and the list goes on. Hardly seems like the country has been destroyed.

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Libtards think it's great...go figure!


Wow, intellectually stimulating comment. Good job contributing to the discussion with substantial ideas. Love your elementary school yard name calling, that definitely makes our country great.

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Wow, intellectually stimulating comment. Good job contributing to the discussion with substantial ideas. Love your elementary school yard name calling, that definitely makes our country great.

it was made clear what is going bad in the country in a previous post, but apparently you did not get it or read it.
Now maybe you can share how things are really going fantastic for most Americans?

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it was made clear what is going bad in the country in a previous post, but apparently you did not get it or read it.
Now maybe you can share how things are really going fantastic for most Americans?

Ummmm, I did, look above and here it is again. I f you can't even follow a forum conversation then I can see why you think things are so bad.

Again for the slow people:
"How is medicine a mess, we have the best physicians and medicine in the world?

We've never been the best in education, but ultimately that's parents responsibility. But education isn't worse, fact is more children have to go to college today than in the past to get a decent job.

Please banking a mess, that hasn't changed. Banking has always been crooked

When haven't the inner cities been a mess? But here you are wrong, there's actually less crime in places like NYC and elsewhere. Back in the day there were actually more murders and streets were more unsafe.

2 incomes to make it, well yeah, the economy has grown, cost of living has grown, inflation etc. Its great that the economy has grown so much, its called capitalism, what our country was founded on, hardly all for doomsday and saying that the country has been destroyed, quite the opposite.

I have to disagree that kids are idiots. Where's your proof?? I have kids and they are amazingly smart. There are millions of smart kids these days and as said before most have to go to college making them smarter then past generations.

How is education and housing unaffordable??? The housing market continues to grow meaning somebody is buying homes. I bought 2 new homes in the past 5 years without a problem. Education does cost money, I have student loans but just pay them like a mortgage, its an investment.


I think you really have a misperception of the world, perhaps due to matching too much news. People continuously say that America has been destroyed or that America needs to be great again. America is great, prosperous, and the world's super power. Economy is highest its ever been, unemployment is very low, housing market is growing, military is strongest in the world, and the list goes on. Hardly seems like the country has been destroyed."

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"That's the way you debate" - Will Ferrell, Old School

[Guest]

"That's the way you debate" - Will Ferrell, Old School

Will Ferrell the dope head liberal, @ss.

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That dope head is still smarter and more honest than Trump

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Ok, I'm bored as usual with conservative nonsense and irrationality. Good luck in november, maybe the major republicans will actually endorse trump by then.

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Once in a while I check these forums but always see CNM on them blathering away about some nonsense. CNM do you really have nothing better to do, is your life really just composed of monitoring these forums and berating others, how sad.

Its ironic that you go around putting others down, saying how lazy they are and that the country sucks, yada yada, but you are just sitting on your ass day after day and hour after hour trolling these forums. That sounds pretty lazy to me and not to mention not doing anything to contribute to society. Well good luck with that, hope it fills your emptiness and poor self esteem but doubt you'll mind happiness or purpose this way.

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Chi, you are regressing. You have gone from snarky one liners to ////. Is that shorthand for something?

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That dope head is still smarter and more honest than Trump

Are you sure that you want to go with that reply? After all, you are going to be seeing a lot more of Trump than the idiot actor in the next four years when he wins in Nov.

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Chi, you are regressing. You have gone from snarky one liners to ////. Is that shorthand for something?
Are you calling me a regressive? [emoji6]

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Ok, I'm bored as usual with conservative nonsense and irrationality. Good luck in november, maybe the major republicans will actually endorse trump by then.

So :censored: funny I almost forgot to laugh

:1rotfl::1rotfl:

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You certainly DO NOT have a way with words!
While I've never claimed to be as loquacious as many others I know (mostly academics and moderates on the left), the fact that you felt compelled to even comment...screams volumes of your own insecurity. ;)

By the way, which right-wingnut neanderthal are you again? :1rotfl:


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While I've never claimed to be as loquacious as many others I know (mostly academics and moderates on the left), the fact that you felt compelled to even comment...screams volumes of your own insecurity. ;)

By the way, which right-wingnut neanderthal are you again? :1rotfl:


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Making up stuff to entertain yourself I see.

That makes attempts at conversation easy as the only one who know or cares what you right ...is YOU!!

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This post sure doesn't sound like CNM. It must be a case of identity theft.

Very astute. :thumbup:



CNM has definitely gotten into a few heads.

You've noticed that too...eh?

I've noticed that it basically boils down to simply proving what one is saying, by providing the appropriate factual links (NOT opinion pieces) backing up the truth and then all of a sudden, all you get is a dozen whiners/criers trying to rebut...with their typical one or two liner lies that they've heard on a Faux News or whatever right-wing e-mail chain they belong to. :shrug:

And the thought of all of the PM's flying from the Queen B, stomping feet and screaming for/demanding reinforcements from her gang of thugs...puts a huge smile on my face. :D

But hey...it's a living. :1rotfl:


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Making up stuff to entertain yourself I see.

That makes attempts at conversation easy as the only one who know or cares what you right ...is YOU!!

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Are you calling me a regressive? [emoji6]

Only if you are liberal. Socialism is regressive. You seem too smart to be one of those.

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Ok, I'm bored as usual with conservative nonsense and irrationality. Good luck in november, maybe the major republicans will actually endorse trump by then.

Well, we know at least one "major Republican" that won't be endorsing Chump. :D

While I applaud Cruz's refusal to be bullied after having his wife and father publicly insulted by Chump, I just wish it had been almost anyone else...except that hypocritical, extremist fake Christian.

I know there have to be at least some moderate, decent Republicans whose stomach roils when looking at and listening to Chump...so why aren't you speaking up louder?

Do you really want your entire party painted as a bunch of racist, bigoted and misogynist old white folks?

Oh wait......... :1rotfl:



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Well, we know at least one "major Republican" that won't be endorsing Chump. :D

While I applaud Cruz's refusal to be bullied after having his wife and father publicly insulted by Chump, I just wish it had been almost anyone else...except that hypocritical, extremist fake Christian.

I know there have to be at least some moderate, decent Republicans whose stomach roils when looking at and listening to Chump...so why aren't you speaking up louder?

Do you really want your entire party painted as a bunch of racist, bigoted and misogynist old white folks?

Oh wait......... :1rotfl:



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Interesting perspective you have on the situation. Your messiah in D.C., the half-white pres. has divided the country with his racist rants, and you want to blame the GOP? How confusing for you. You are evidently, very easily prone to mass suggestion from the radical left to believe that Republicans "hate." A word that is worn out by the left when they can't figure out how to defend their own lack of diversity. But, run with the lemmings. You should reach the cliff edge by Nov.

NOT the prissy CNM.

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when they can't figure out how to defend their own lack of diversity What lack of diversity?

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Ummmm, I did, look above and here it is again. I f you can't even follow a forum conversation then I can see why you think things are so bad.

Again for the slow people:



"I f"....Looks like smarty pants made another error while acting smug again.

"How is medicine a mess, we have the best physicians and medicine in the world?

Really? You must enjoy paying 33% more for health care than before Obammacare was enacted. You must enjoy hearing how people are not being covered when they go to the hospital with chest pains if they do not stay overnight (they deem that as an evaluation visit, not covered).

We've never been the best in education, but ultimately that's parents responsibility. But education isn't worse, fact is more children have to go to college today than in the past to get a decent job.

USA used to be considered the best country to go to college, rich foreigners would send their kids here, now it is Germany...So you believe the school teacher is not responsible to educate the children that are in class? You must feel that the teacher is just there to do fun things like coloring and play games. You feel that "the economy has grown" to the point that it takes "2 incomes to make it" and those parents should educate their kids after they get off work so the teacher does not have too...

Please banking a mess, that hasn't changed. Banking has always been crooked

You are not speaking from personal experience as you have no valid experience at a bank to speak of.

When haven't the inner cities been a mess? But here you are wrong, there's actually less crime in places like NYC and elsewhere. Back in the day there were actually more murders and streets were more unsafe.

Please provide data to back this claim up.

2 incomes to make it, well yeah, the economy has grown, cost of living has grown, inflation etc. Its great that the economy has grown so much, its called capitalism, what our country was founded on, hardly all for doomsday and saying that the country has been destroyed, quite the opposite.
Oh, that is how the person that leaches off others feels. The person that wants to be charitable, but does not have a pot to **** in. I would like to watch you explain how the economy is so great to the people that lost their homes and had to move under the viaduct.

I have to disagree that kids are idiots. Where's your proof?? I have kids and they are amazingly smart. There are millions of smart kids these days and as said before most have to go to college making them smarter then past generations.

Of course your kids are so smart...just like you...blah, blah, blah. A lot of people with college degrees working in retail, great to know they are so smart...spending a hundred thousand to end up working at Kohls, way smarter than the past!

How is education and housing unaffordable??? The housing market continues to grow meaning somebody is buying homes. I bought 2 new homes in the past 5 years without a problem. Education does cost money, I have student loans but just pay them like a mortgage, its an investment.

Well I am going to call your bluff here. Give me an address, I will look up the sales on these supposed 2 homes you bought while you made payments on a college loans (great investment, LOL). Lets see how financially smart you are...

I think you really have a misperception of the world, perhaps due to matching too much news. People continuously say that America has been destroyed or that America needs to be great again. America is great, prosperous, and the world's super power. Economy is highest its ever been, unemployment is very low, housing market is growing, military is strongest in the world, and the list goes on. Hardly seems like the country has been destroyed."

Uh Oh, another error by smarty pants while trying to be smug..."matching news"

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CNM

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Provided especially for your entertainment!

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Excuse my being brief, however, you may find that NO TERM LIMITS is the same concept as TENURE in colleges. Tenure keeps the most inefficient profs in college, secure from termination. You do not have to believe me, however, I taught at three Universities, and I was a also full tenured Department Head,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, TENURE IS ABSOLUTELY DESTROYING EDUCATION AT ALL LEVELS.
Retired, I cannot prove it to you but I did see it first hand. Tenure does this:
A Prof can work for a liberal Chairman or Dean and put in about 6 hours a week for a salary of $70K to $90K so how is that for starters?
How about a full Professor, Tenured at UC Berkeley and has a business full time on the side, full salary at school and shows up MAYBE a couple of hours per week at school. I could give you pages of examples.
In the Congress it appears to be the same system with different players.

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Interesting perspective you have on the situation. Your messiah in D.C., the half-white pres. has divided the country with his racist rants, and you want to blame the GOP? How confusing for you. You are evidently, very easily prone to mass suggestion from the radical left to believe that Republicans "hate." A word that is worn out by the left when they can't figure out how to defend their own lack of diversity. But, run with the lemmings. You should reach the cliff edge by Nov.

NOT the prissy CNM.

You want to place the blame, where it belongs on the GOP. Of course, that is where it belongs. Obama has had racial rants. That is total nonsense. Obama could stand there and keep his mouth shut, and the color of his skin would be considered a racial rant.

Crime is down. Illegal immigration is down. The Dow has tripled, since it hit the bottom with "W's" Great Recession. You listen to Trump, and everything is gloom and doom. His mere presence as president will fix everything. It must be real hard to fix things that aren't broken.

Businesses have more their production overseas for the last 30+ years. However, you listen to Republicans and all the job lose has been in the last 8.
Truth is a foreign concept to Republicans. Hate that is something that they can fully embrace.

How is Trump doing with minorities? No, his speeches, and actions aren't racist. The minorities are jealous that they don't have his whiteness.

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Hey, the Democrats are doing fine, they are showing us how to make a Racehorse out of a Mule.
Good luck, get your Queen in there next?

bbbbbb :crap2:

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Well, I think their over paid, they get a lot of perks and don't forget the lobbist money! That the real pay day! My opinion on term limits are no one should serve more than president. So 8 year limit IMO, this way the corruption may be limited. Next IMO would be get rid of party gang affiliation.

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You want to place the blame, where it belongs on the GOP. Of course, that is where it belongs. Obama has had racial rants. That is total nonsense. Obama could stand there and keep his mouth shut, and the color of his skin would be considered a racial rant.

Crime is down. Illegal immigration is down. The Dow has tripled, since it hit the bottom with "W's" Great Recession. You listen to Trump, and everything is gloom and doom. His mere presence as president will fix everything. It must be real hard to fix things that aren't broken.

Businesses have more their production overseas for the last 30+ years. However, you listen to Republicans and all the job lose has been in the last 8.
Truth is a foreign concept to Republicans. Hate that is something that they can fully embrace.

How is Trump doing with minorities? No, his speeches, and actions aren't racist. The minorities are jealous that they don't have his whiteness.It's just your last sentence that bother me.
Do you mean they are jealous of his education and upbringing?

As for looks, he takes after his father.

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Well, I think their over paid, they get a lot of perks and don't forget the lobbist money! That the real pay day! My opinion on term limits are no one should serve more than president. So 8 year limit IMO, this way the corruption may be limited. Next IMO would be get rid of party gang affiliation.

You may have a good idea about term limits for Congress. However, it would have to be done with a Constitutional amendment. How do you propose to get Congress to put legislation through for a Constitutional amendment to put a limit on their job and perks?

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You may have a good idea about term limits for Congress. However, it would have to be done with a Constitutional amendment. How do you propose to get Congress to put legislation through for a Constitutional amendment to put a limit on their job and perks?Just put it on Trump's bucket list.

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Well, I think their over paid, they get a lot of perks and don't forget the lobbist money! That the real pay day! My opinion on term limits are no one should serve more than president. So 8 year limit IMO, this way the corruption may be limited. Next IMO would be get rid of party gang affiliation.

Agree, we should spread the wealth around, right?

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Hey, the Democrats are doing fine, they are showing us how to make a Racehorse out of a Mule.
Good luck, get your Queen in there next?

bbbbbb :crap2:

More like making a chocolate cream pie out of horse manure. They can put whipped cream on Chillary but she will still be just a pile of dung. Democrats will vote for anything that says FREE on it. And they talk about seniors in The Villages being so easily scammed.

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I'm posting this website to give republicans a dose of reality: FactChecking Trump’s Big Speech
Trump supporters who keep saying Hillary is a liar need to realize that all Trump does is lie and he'll continue lying to our country. Hillary has lied and dems accept that but Republicans you are blinded by Trump. Please check your facts, don't just agree with Trumps bullsh*t and be brainwashed by him. Wait and see, with Hillary's DNC speech there will be lies but not nearly to the extent of Trumps speeches

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There is not enough room on this site to list all of Hillary`s major lies let alone all of her smaller lies .

Hillary will lie even when the truth would do her no harm . Her mind is " wired " in such a way that she just automatically lies .

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There is not enough room on this site to list all of Hillary`s major lies let alone all of her smaller lies .

Hillary will lie even when the truth would do her no harm . Her mind is " wired " in such a way that she just automatically lies .


Yes, and Trump does the same exact thing and yet you still support him, why??? It makes no sense to condemn Hillary for lying but be ok with Trump. I'm not ok with either but how can reps just accept his dishonesty?

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Trump has exactly no need to become president . He is making a real sacrifice to chase the office and if elected to serve .

Hillary on the other-hand will see her life as a complete failure if she does not win the title . She is all about her LEGACY .
If we would have already had a female president she would not bother to run .
Winning the office is her ultimate goal . In Trumps case running the executive branch is his goal . He`s not concerned about his Legacy .

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Yes, and Trump does the same exact thing and yet you still support him, why??? It makes no sense to condemn Hillary for lying but be ok with Trump. I'm not ok with either but how can reps just accept his dishonesty?

The same way that you accept Hillary's.

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Yes, and Trump does the same exact thing and yet you still support him, why??? It makes no sense to condemn Hillary for lying but be ok with Trump. I'm not ok with either but how can reps just accept his dishonesty?

There is a big difference between one that tells some lies, and one that is a pathological liar, a thief, disloyal to America. a felon and a tax fraud Not to mention how despicable she is to women, including that little girl that got raped and hillary defended the rapist, laughing at how she knew he was guilty.

So yes, I believe there is a difference, even if you are too blind to see it.

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Convince us --- the real majority why she would not be best for America .

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Convince us --- the real majority why she would not be best for America .

Are you kidding? She should have convinced you herself. Are you really that dense that you are not up on current events of the past couple of decades of Clinton corruption? Are you admitting to being that naive? Please say it isn't so.

Her complete life's failures should have you convinced that you don't hire the worst employee you can find. You don't hire a felon hoping that they will work honestly for you. I am willing to bet that you NEVER ever hired anyone for a job before.

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Convince us --- the real majority why she would not be best for America .

People like you scare me, because you accept
corruption and deceit. Plus I seriously doubt the
majority of people believe her good for America.

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"I f"....Looks like smarty pants made another error while acting smug again.

Really? You must enjoy paying 33% more for health care than before Obammacare was enacted. You must enjoy hearing how people are not being covered when they go to the hospital with chest pains if they do not stay overnight (they deem that as an evaluation visit, not covered).

USA used to be considered the best country to go to college, rich foreigners would send their kids here, now it is Germany...So you believe the school teacher is not responsible to educate the children that are in class? You must feel that the teacher is just there to do fun things like coloring and play games. You feel that "the economy has grown" to the point that it takes "2 incomes to make it" and those parents should educate their kids after they get off work so the teacher does not have too...

You are not speaking from personal experience as you have no valid experience at a bank to speak of.

Please provide data to back this claim up.

Oh, that is how the person that leaches off others feels. The person that wants to be charitable, but does not have a pot to **** in. I would like to watch you explain how the economy is so great to the people that lost their homes and had to move under the viaduct.

Of course your kids are so smart...just like you...blah, blah, blah. A lot of people with college degrees working in retail, great to know they are so smart...spending a hundred thousand to end up working at Kohls, way smarter than the past!

Well I am going to call your bluff here. Give me an address, I will look up the sales on these supposed 2 homes you bought while you made payments on a college loans (great investment, LOL). Lets see how financially smart you are...


Uh Oh, another error by smarty pants while trying to be smug..."matching news"

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CNM

post #56...What happened to CNM's response on this one? Gee, were the claims of the desire to discuss in detail a lie?

CNM???

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People like you scare me, because you accept
corruption and deceit. Plus I seriously doubt the
majority of people believe her good for America.

So do you if you're voting Republican.

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CNM is still too busy to reply to post #56?

If she won't reply, it leads me to believe she is nothing more than a lying bull dike lesbian...

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Are you kidding? She should have convinced you herself. Are you really that dense that you are not up on current events of the past couple of decades of Clinton corruption? Are you admitting to being that naive? Please say it isn't so.

Her complete life's failures should have you convinced that you don't hire the worst employee you can find. You don't hire a felon hoping that they will work honestly for you. I am willing to bet that you NEVER ever hired anyone for a job before.

It's the PARTY...the corruption lies with the D and R party. Hillary and Trump are simply interviewing for the "talking head" position.

Neither will work "honestly" for you.

People like you scare me, because you accept
corruption and deceit. Plus I seriously doubt the
majority of people believe her good for America.

So do you if you're voting Republican.

You ALL scare me with your willingness to vote for the "other" corrupt candidate. They're ALL corrupt. BOTH parties.

CNM is still too busy to reply to post #56?

If she won't reply, it leads me to believe she is nothing more than a lying bull dike lesbian...

Why do you care what an ignoramus thinks? Tell her off and move on. You're WAITING to hear more politically correct bullsh!t? Why waste YOUR time?

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post #56...What happened to CNM's response on this one? Gee, were the claims of the desire to discuss in detail a lie?

CNM???
CNM is still too busy to reply to post #56?

If she won't reply, it leads me to believe she is nothing more than a lying bull dike lesbian...

Yo, you ignorant hillbilly idiot, why would post #56 apply to me? I'm not the one you (presumably you?) replied to. :oops:

While many try to be me (imitation being the sincerest form of flattery and all that... :D)....the post you quoted didn't even have one of my many fans imitating me.

If you can't follow a simple thread, maybe it's time for you to step away from the keyboard. ;)



On another note, we are now at 8 pages on this thread and not a single moaning, whining, bitching right-wingnut.... has put forth details of their own ideas on how to fix 'the system.'

Which, while not a big surprise for anyone with even a modicum of intelligence, IS indicative of the basic lack of intelligence it takes to back a megalomaniac, racist, thin-skinned bigot like Chump.


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P.S. I signed the above post twice, in hope (most likely in vain)....that you were smart enough to not miss it this time. :1rotfl:


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P.S. I signed the above post twice, in hope (most likely in vain)....that you were smart enough to not miss it this time. :1rotfl:


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You and him are extreme opposite ends of the ideological spectrum. Neither are completely right, neither are convincing. Both have one thing in common, both are egotistical and seek attention.

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You and him are extreme opposite ends of the ideological spectrum. Neither are completely right, neither are convincing. Both have one thing in common, both are egotistical and seek attention.

You are, of course, entitled to your opinion.

Regardless of how wrong it is. :D

As for that list of "egotistical and attention seekers," I'll bet you've never even thought to add yourself to it...now have you? :oops:

You really should.

While you're at it, why don't you have the guts to even use your user name?

Never mind, I know who you are anyway. ;)

BTW, I'll bet you're really pi$$ed I'm even still here...aren't you? :1rotfl:



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You are, of course, entitled to your opinion.

Regardless of how wrong it is. :D

As for that list of "egotistical and attention seekers," I'll bet you've never even thought to add yourself to it...now have you? :oops:

You really should.

While you're at it, why don't you have the guts to even use your user name?

Never mind, I know who you are anyway. ;)

BTW, I'll bet you're really pi$$ed I'm even still here...aren't you? :1rotfl:



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Wow, you are prissy this morning. Use my real name? Is CNM on your birth certificate? Never mind, that issue is only in your mind.
There is nothing that I say on here that I wouldn't say to your face, in reply to you at your same level. If you are sensitive, then like I said before, read the classified.
As far as attention, it is not me that puts little initials on my posts so that everyone will know exactly how many posts come from me.
Your little sissy characters on your non-issue comments are real cute, for an adolescent.
And as far as knowing who I am, OK. But, why are you worried about me signing my comments if you already know who I am? Puzzling or is it?
****ed that you are here? Why? You don't bother me. You are just a funny distraction that seems ignorant of political facts. My hope is that if you are on here reading then you may learn something. NO, I am glad you are still here. You are no more of a thorn in the flesh than our forum racist. Both are in the same category, extreme and attention seeking.

I am happy that I make your day for you. You seem so lonely. I am a caring person underneath the rhetoric.

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Wow, you are prissy this morning. Use my real name? Is CNM on your birth certificate? Never mind, that issue is only in your mind.

So you can't even read?

I said "user name"....you twit. :oops:



There is nothing that I say on here that I wouldn't say to your face, in reply to you at your same level. If you are sensitive, then like I said before, read the classified.
As far as attention, it is not me that puts little initials on my posts so that everyone will know exactly how many posts come from me.
Your little sissy characters on your non-issue comments are real cute, for an adolescent.
And as far as knowing who I am, OK. But, why are you worried about me signing my comments if you already know who I am? Puzzling or is it?
****ed that you are here? Why? You don't bother me.

You're lying.

If I didn't "bother" you, you wouldn't expend so much effort with your screed protesting the opposite.

Just saying. :D




You are just a funny distraction that seems ignorant of political facts. My hope is that if you are on here reading then you may learn something. NO, I am glad you are still here. You are no more of a thorn in the flesh than our forum racist. Both are in the same category, extreme and attention seeking.

:1rotfl:

Thanks for all but admitting that you are who I think you are. :thumbup:



I am happy that I make your day for you. You seem so lonely. I am a caring person underneath the rhetoric.

You're lying again.

You're a passive-aggressive, angry little twit, who is a wolf in sheep's clothing and who has some people here fooled...but not me. ;)



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CNM

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So you can't even read?

I said "user name"....you twit. :oops:





You're lying.

If I didn't "bother" you, you wouldn't expend so much effort with your screed protesting the opposite.

Just saying. :D





:1rotfl:

Thanks for all but admitting that you are who I think you are. :thumbup:





You're lying again.

You're a passive-aggressive, angry little twit, who is a wolf in sheep's clothing and who has some people here fooled...but not me. ;)



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Dale Carnegie graduate????

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Dale Carnegie graduate????

Hold on now, she is just getting wound up. If you wait long enough, her head will explode. When she shows her desperation, you can tell her blood pressure is up.

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So you can't even read?

I said "user name"....you twit. :oops:





You're lying.

If I didn't "bother" you, you wouldn't expend so much effort with your screed protesting the opposite.

Just saying. :D





:1rotfl:

Thanks for all but admitting that you are who I think you are. :thumbup:





You're lying again.

You're a passive-aggressive, angry little twit, who is a wolf in sheep's clothing and who has some people here fooled...but not me. ;)



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CNM

The master baiter is alive and well.

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The master baiter is alive and well.

Ha!....:thumbup:

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Dale Carnegie graduate????

I taught him everything he knew. :D


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The master baiter is alive and well.
Ha!....:thumbup:

The only thing more pathetic than using such an unoriginal, old, trite and hackneyed saying...is a person congratulating them for it. :oops:

Then again, judging by all of the personal attacks from the worms coming out of the woodwork from the simple act of me posting...I guess it's no big surprise. :D

If you'll notice, I don't start making you look ignorant until I'm attacked first.

So if you're trying to put salve on, or to stop the bleeding from, whatever little dignity you have left...don't start nuttin'. :1rotfl:


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The only thing more pathetic than using such an unoriginal, old, trite and hackneyed saying...is a person congratulating them for it. :oops:

Then again, judging by all of the personal attacks from the worms coming out of the woodwork from the simple act of me posting...I guess it's no big surprise. :D

If you'll notice, I don't start making you look ignorant until I'm attacked first.

So if you're trying to put salve on, or to stop the bleeding from, whatever little dignity you have left...don't start nuttin'. :1rotfl:


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In addition to master baiting you are self indulgent, self gratifyingly blind to reality.

No attacks intended....that is in the eye of the beholder or manipulator.

You take yourself and youe self assigned role way to seriously.

That is fine as long as it makes youe day and does not infringe on mine......

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I taught him everything he knew. :D


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Don't look now, but I believe that you just responded to a reply to your comment (if you want to call it that). So, unless you are multi-personality ridden, he was talking about you. :a20:

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In addition to master baiting you are self indulgent, self gratifyingly blind to reality.

No attacks intended....that is in the eye of the beholder or manipulator.

You take yourself and youe self assigned role way to seriously.

That is fine as long as it makes youe day and does not infringe on mine......

:thumbup:

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Don't look now, but I believe that you just responded to a reply to your comment (if you want to call it that). So, unless you are multi-personality ridden, he was talking about you.

And you would be dead wrong. :oops:

Are you really this challenged that you can't discern who is posting what?



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CNM

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And you would be dead wrong. :oops:

Are you really this challenged that you can't discern who is posting what?



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Ha, ha, you are a bit flustered, old girl.

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Ha, ha, you are a bit flustered, old girl.

Hardly. :1rotfl:

That you would resort to throwing spaghetti against the wall and hope something sticks, means that you're getting beyond desperate. ;)

Thanks for that revelation. :ho:




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Hardly. :1rotfl:

That you would resort to throwing spaghetti against the wall and hope something sticks, means that you're getting beyond desperate. ;)

Thanks for that revelation. :ho:




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:a20: whatever you say...:a20:

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Hardly. :1rotfl:

That you would resort to throwing spaghetti against the wall and hope something sticks, means that you're getting beyond desperate. ;)

Thanks for that revelation. :ho:




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CNMDo you toss the whole bowl or just one? With or without sauce? I've never been to a liberal's house.

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Consider this, excuse the brief reply. Some persons who seek political office will almost kill to get there, or as some say, have killed to get there or stay there. Another item, once in, they fight kick and scream to stay on the gravy wagon. Another item, in order to change the basic structure it has to be APPROVED by Congress.
So come on now, they are going to be willing to have term limits, other limits too?
Well, Uh, I do not think so. bbbbbb

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Consider this, excuse the brief reply. Now it's brief, and more interesting.

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Consider this, excuse the brief reply. Some persons who seek political office will almost kill to get there, or as some say, have killed to get there or stay there. Another item, once in, they fight kick and scream to stay on the gravy wagon. Another item, in order to change the basic structure it has to be APPROVED by Congress.
So come on now, they are going to be willing to have term limits, other limits too?
Well, Uh, I do not think so. bbbbbb

The LAST person you want as president...is a guy who WANTS to be president. Psychopaths run for president.

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The LAST person you want as president...is a guy who WANTS to be president. Psychopaths run for president.I don't know if I agree. I don't know candidates very well.

Having said that there is someone who knows Trump very well.
Tony Schwartz, author of The Art of the Deal who spent 18 months with Trump says he knows Trump very well and believes he is a sociopath. He says he has all ten signs. Do you agree?

10 signs for spotting a sociopath

#1) Sociopaths are charming.
#2) Sociopaths are more spontaneous and intense than other people.
#3) Sociopaths are incapable of feeling shame, guilt or remorse.
#4) Sociopaths invent outrageous lies about their experiences.
#5) Sociopaths seek to dominate others and "win" at all costs.
#6) Sociopaths tend to be highly intelligent, but they use their brainpower to deceive others rather than empower them.
#7) Sociopaths are incapable of love and are entirely self-serving.
#8) Sociopaths speak poetically.
#9) Sociopaths never apologize.
#10) Sociopaths are delusional and literally believe that what they say becomes truth merely because they say it!
Learn more: How to spot a sociopath - 10 red flags that could save you from being swept under the influence of a charismatic nut job - NaturalNews.com (http://www.naturalnews.com/036112_sociopaths_cults_influence.html#ixzz4FjmXeh BN)

Trump is trying to issue a cease and desist order about such claims and is trying sue Schwartz.

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The LAST person you want as president...is a guy who WANTS to be president. Psychopaths run for president.

HELLary fits that statement, except I am not sure about the "guy" part. Maybe.......what is it covering up with those ugly pants suits?