Re. Trump's Speech

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Why wasn't it delivered in German? Would have been fitting.

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Why wasn't it delivered in German? Would have been fitting.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

One liners from the talking point group?

Pull the string in the neck?

Do you think that is original?

Maybe next week Clinton will do it for you.

Nah! German's would noy qualify...they are whte and think for themselves.

Hers will be black, spanish, islamic, muslim, transgender, how to keep the freebies coming, make me the desrved queen.

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:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

One liners from the talking point group?

Pull the string in the neck?

Do you think that is original?

Maybe next week Clinton will do it for you.

Nah! German's would noy qualify...they are whte and think for themselves.

Hers will be black, spanish, islamic, muslim, transgender, how to keep the freebies coming, make me the desrved queen.

dummy.

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:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

One liners from the talking point group?

Pull the string in the neck?

Do you think that is original?

Maybe next week Clinton will do it for you.

Nah! German's would noy qualify...they are whte and think for themselves.

Hers will be black, spanish, islamic, muslim, transgender, how to keep the freebies coming, make me the desrved queen.

Trump lies so much that Germans would run away from him. Have no fear swallowing Trump's lies is a trait almost all Republicans are buying. If trump told the truth, they would think that he was being sarcastic.

FactChecking Trump’s Big Speech (http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/factchecking-trump%e2%80%99s-big-speech/ar-BBuEx5G?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=iehp)

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dummy.

I could be wrong, but I don't think you have to sign your posts with your moniker.

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Trump lies so much that Germans would run away from him. Have no fear swallowing Trump's lies is a trait almost all Republicans are buying. If trump told the truth, they would think that he was being sarcastic.

FactChecking Trump’s Big Speech (http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/factchecking-trump%e2%80%99s-big-speech/ar-BBuEx5G?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=iehp)

Well, at least Director Comey never called him a liar, so Trump (unlike Hillary) has that going for him.

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Trump lies so much that Germans would run away from him. Have no fear swallowing Trump's lies is a trait almost all Republicans are buying. If trump told the truth, they would think that he was being sarcastic.

FactChecking Trump’s Big Speech (http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/factchecking-trump%e2%80%99s-big-speech/ar-BBuEx5G?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=iehp)

however I think the original poster was alluding to the Donald's similarity to a historical German figure who shall go nameless.

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Nah! German's would noy qualify...they are whte and think for themselves.

Hers will be black, spanish, islamic, muslim, transgender. QUOTE]

Yeah, that is right. The Nazis thought for themself and not for Trump - oops, I mean Hitler.

Hillary will show a Democratic Party of INCLUSION and not DIVISION like the Regressive Republicans.

You may have noticed that Trump kept saying he would protect the LBGT community from foreign invaders who would do them harm. He never did say he would protect them from the unconstitutional discrimination from Americans - like Mike Pence.

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If Trump is going to be the "Law and Order" president, how is he going to stem the violence in the urban cities? Is he going to confiscate guns from urban youths? Is he going to have police crackdowns on urban youths? That would be divisive and lead to much more violence.

Trump just gave a wish list but offered absolutely NO SUBSTANCE.

What would he be able to get through Congress? ZIPPO!

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If Trump is going to be the "Law and Order" president, how is he going to stem the violence in the urban cities? Is he going to confiscate guns from urban youths? Is he going to have police crackdowns on urban youths? That would be divisive and lead to much more violence.

Trump just gave a wish list but offered absolutely NO SUBSTANCE.

What would he be able to get through Congress? ZIPPO!

Well, we wouldn't want that would we? I guess we should maintain political correctness and continue ignore the problem as Obama has done.

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If Trump is going to be the "Law and Order" president, how is he going to stem the violence in the urban cities? Is he going to confiscate guns from urban youths? Is he going to have police crackdowns on urban youths? That would be divisive and lead to much more violence.

Trump just gave a wish list but offered absolutely NO SUBSTANCE.

What would he be able to get through Congress? ZIPPO!I asked the same question on another thread.

"I have a message for all of you: the crime and violence that today afflicts our nation will soon come to an end. Beginning on January 20th 2017, safety will be restored."

That sounds like an old TV plot. There's a new marshall in town. Now law and order will rule the day.

Maybe he thinks that's what Martial Law is and that's his plan. I could see how he would get those two words mixed up.

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I asked the same question on another thread.

"I have a message for all of you: the crime and violence that today afflicts our nation will soon come to an end. Beginning on January 20th 2017, safety will be restored."

That sounds like an old TV plot. There's a new marshall in town. Now law and order will rule the day.

Maybe he thinks that's what Martial Law is and that's his plan. I could see how he would get those two words mixed up.

What you are missing, by design, on purpose, because the party said so, dumb(?) is the simple task or re-instating enforcement of the laws that are currently on the books.

The laws that are being ignored, not enforced for political gain, political correctness, raism and islamic sympathizing.

There is only one fool who would consider martial law...the current twit in chief!

No new laws required.

No additional justification required.

Insist on laws of the land be effective immediately January 20, 2016.
Not a big deal unless you are one have a gain os some sort by the current lack of enforcement.

If you were allowed to think for yourself and not just blindly follow the party directions of the day you would know that law enforcement is wanted by the majority of we the people...including the thinking democrats, blacks and other law abiding minorities.

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The laws that are being ignored, not enforced for political gain, political correctness, raism and islamic sympathizing.
On January 20th everyone, from the cop on the beat to James B. Comey will enforce the law as it is written just because he takes office. He will have his finger on the pulse of millions of law enforcement officers. Is this what you believe?

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If Trump is going to be the "Law and Order" president, how is he going to stem the violence in the urban cities? Is he going to confiscate guns from urban youths? Is he going to have police crackdowns on urban youths? That would be divisive and lead to much more violence.

Trump just gave a wish list but offered absolutely NO SUBSTANCE.

What would he be able to get through Congress? ZIPPO!
Sounds like Trump channeled his inner Nixon. From the 1968 acceptance speech:

"As we look at America, we see cities enveloped in smoke and flame. We hear sirens in the night. We see Americans dying on distant battlefields abroad. We see Americans hating each other; fighting each other; killing each other at home. And as we see and hear these things, millions of Americans cry out in anguish. Did we come all this way for this?"

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On January 20th everyone, from the cop on the beat to James B. Comey will enforce the law as it is written just because he takes office. He will have his finger on the pulse of millions of law enforcement officers. Is this what you believe?

Trumpanzee is just a blowhard who makes absurd statements without a thought out plan of how to put them in action.

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On January 20th everyone, from the cop on the beat to James B. Comey will enforce the law as it is written just because he takes office. He will have his finger on the pulse of millions of law enforcement officers. Is this what you believe?

Call it what ever your talk guidance counselors allow you to accept.

What do you call the current administrations catch and release of immigrants? It is allowing aliens in illegally. No back ground checks. No vetting. Criminals and terrorists from all over the world get a free pass....yes along with the good ones (still illegal).

How about eliminating the stop and frisk laws in NYC proven to be a deterrent of crime in the area. Cease and desist because the black folks, the crminal ones, bitch and moan they are being profiled.

I forgot that presenting facts do not work on those who are brain washed to object to what ever the opposition says.

Try something when no one i around. Just ask yourself if you prefer the lack of enforcement.

Nah! Never mind we know the result.

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Call it what ever your talk guidance counselors allow you to accept.

What do you call the current administrations catch and release of immigrants? It is allowing aliens in illegally. No back ground checks. No vetting. Criminals and terrorists from all over the world get a free pass....yes along with the good ones (still illegal).

How about eliminating the stop and frisk laws in NYC proven to be a deterrent of crime in the area. Cease and desist because the black folks, the crminal ones, bitch and moan they are being profiled.

I forgot that presenting facts do not work on those who are brain washed to object to what ever the opposition says.

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How would YOU like it if the Sumter County police stopped YOU on the streets of The Villages and frisked YOU "up against the wall" in front of your friends - not just one time but rather every time they saw you?

As to illegal immigrants, are you planning to round up 12 million, put them into concertina wire compounds, and bus them across A border, and dump them? They would be back in the USA before the bus returned! Maybe, kneecap them so walking would be more difficult - after all, that is the Republican way.

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How would YOU like it if the Sumter County police stopped YOU on the streets of The Villages and frisked YOU "up against the wall" in front of your friends - not just one time but rather every time they saw you?

As to illegal immigrants, are you planning to round up 12 million, put them into concertina wire compounds, and bus them across A border, and dump them? They would be back in the USA before the bus returned! Maybe, kneecap them so walking would be more difficult - after all, that is the Republican way.

What do YOU propose as a viable solution?

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Call it what ever your talk guidance counselors allow you to accept.

What do you call the current administrations catch and release of immigrants? It is allowing aliens in illegally. No back ground checks. No vetting. Criminals and terrorists from all over the world get a free pass....yes along with the good ones (still illegal).

How about eliminating the stop and frisk laws in NYC proven to be a deterrent of crime in the area. Cease and desist because the black folks, the crminal ones, bitch and moan they are being profiled.

I forgot that presenting facts do not work on those who are brain washed to object to what ever the opposition says.

Try something when no one i around. Just ask yourself if you prefer the lack of enforcement.

Nah! Never mind we know the result.

Obama has deported more illegal immigrants than any other president. Maybe you should check your facts. You are the poster boy for objecting to whatever the opposition says.

Trump entire campaign is pitting people against each other. The next thing coming out of his mouth is that he will be THE GREAT UNITER.

At the beginning of his acceptance speech, he said that he would BE TELLING NO LIES. Take a damn good look at the fact check article that was posted in this thread. All he does is lie. He is a con man.

Take a look at his tax plan. All the reduction will be going to the upper tax bracket. That in itself will add 10 trillion to the debt in ten years. He is going to increase law enforcement, military, border guards, and it will not cost a thing.

How stupid do you to be to believe a word that is coming out of his mouth? The answer is pretty stupid.

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But why isn't that obvious to everyone?

If a car salesman said he was selling you a car with low miles on it, great mileage per gallon, the most comfortable drive and a great price you would be very impressed until he couldn't give you the specifics.

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Call it what ever your talk guidance counselors allow you to accept.

What do you call the current administrations catch and release of immigrants? It is allowing aliens in illegally. No back ground checks. No vetting. Criminals and terrorists from all over the world get a free pass....yes along with the good ones (still illegal).

How about eliminating the stop and frisk laws in NYC proven to be a deterrent of crime in the area. Cease and desist because the black folks, the crminal ones, bitch and moan they are being profiled.

I forgot that presenting facts do not work on those who are brain washed to object to what ever the opposition says.

Try something when no one i around. Just ask yourself if you prefer the lack of enforcement.

Nah! Never mind we know the result.

The Obama administration has revived the maligned illegal immigrant “catch-and-release” policy of the Bush years, ordering Border Patrol agents not to bother arresting and deporting many new illegal immigrants, the head of the agents’ labor union revealed Thursday.
Brandon Judd, president of the National Border Patrol Council, told Congress that Homeland Security was embarrassed by the number of illegal immigrants not showing up for their deportation hearings, but instead of cracking down on the immigrants, the department ordered agents not to arrest them in the first place — meaning they no longer need to show up for court.
Mr. Judd said the releases are part of President Obama’s “priorities” program, which orders agents to worry chiefly about criminals, national security risks and illegal immigrants who came into the U.S. after Jan. 1, 2014. Mr. Judd said illegal immigrants without serious criminal convictions have learned that by claiming they came before 2014 — without even needing to show proof — they can be released immediately rather than being arrested.
“Immigration laws today appear to be mere suggestions,” Mr. Judd testified to the House Judiciary Committee’s immigration subcommittee. “That fact is well known in other countries.”The Obama administration has revived the maligned illegal immigrant “catch-and-release” policy of the Bush years, ordering Border Patrol agents not to bother arresting and deporting many new illegal immigrants, the head of the agents’ labor union revealed Thursday.
Brandon Judd, president of the National Border Patrol Council, told Congress that Homeland Security was embarrassed by the number of illegal immigrants not showing up for their deportation hearings, but instead of cracking down on the immigrants, the department ordered agents not to arrest them in the first place — meaning they no longer need to show up for court.
Mr. Judd said the releases are part of President Obama’s “priorities” program, which orders agents to worry chiefly about criminals, national security risks and illegal immigrants who came into the U.S. after Jan. 1, 2014. Mr. Judd said illegal immigrants without serious criminal convictions have learned that by claiming they came before 2014 — without even needing to show proof — they can be released immediately rather than being arrested.
“Immigration laws today appear to be mere suggestions,” Mr. Judd testified to the House Judiciary Committee’s immigration subcommittee. “That fact is well known in other countries.”

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What you are missing, by design, on purpose, because the party said so, dumb(?) is the simple task or re-instating enforcement of the laws that are currently on the books.

The laws that are being ignored, not enforced for political gain, political correctness, raism and islamic sympathizing.

There is only one fool who would consider martial law...the current twit in chief!

No new laws required.

No additional justification required.

Insist on laws of the land be effective immediately January 20, 2016.
Not a big deal unless you are one have a gain os some sort by the current lack of enforcement.

If you were allowed to think for yourself and not just blindly follow the party directions of the day you would know that law enforcement is wanted by the majority of we the ipeople...including the thinking democrats, blacks and other law abiding minorities.And when Trump is in charge, using the same budget and not adding a single new job all the laws will be enforced the day he takes office, as he predicts because he has great business skills.

Is this what you tell yourself?

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What do YOU propose as a viable solution?

Stop and Frisk is unconstitutional. End of story.

As for the illegal immigrants - create a pathway for legal residence for them. No, not citizenship. Let them work, pay taxes, their children born in the USA are constitutionally citizens, if criminality happens - deport the criminal after doing the sentence in USA.

This decriminalizes illegals and lets them work and pay paxes.

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And when Trump is in charge, using the same budget and not adding a single new job all the laws will be enforced the day he takes office, as he predicts because he has great business skills.

Is this what you tell yourself?

What will Hillary do?

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What will Hillary do?I don't feel like looking it up. I'm getting tired of doing all the heavy lifting. When she gives her speech, let's pick it apart with facts. For now, we have The Donald Von Trump's family speeches to examine.

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Stop and Frisk is unconstitutional. End of story.

As for the illegal immigrants - create a pathway for legal residence for them. No, not citizenship. Let them work, pay taxes, their children born in the USA are constitutionally citizens, if criminality happens - deport the criminal after doing the sentence in USA.

This decriminalizes illegals and lets them work and pay paxes.

If anyone wants to know what happens when a large population of illegals are deported, read a book called "Postville,A Clash Of Cultures". It tells of a very large Kosher meat packing plant in a small Iowa town that was staffed by Mexican line workers. One day an immigration raid was held, the Mexicans were deported, and the Jewish management jailed, the packing plant closed, and the little town dries up and shrivels. No more economy for the townspeople.

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however I think the original poster was alluding to the Donald's similarity to a historical German figure who shall go nameless.

The op is a intelligence challenged individual!

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I don't feel like looking it up. I'm getting tired of doing all the heavy lifting. When she gives her speech, let's pick it apart with facts. For now, we have The Donald Von Trump's family speeches to examine.

You are going to vote for Hillary, but you are too "tired of doing all the heavy lifting" to see where she stands on the issues.:rolleyes:

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And when Trump is in charge, using the same budget and not adding a single new job all the laws will be enforced the day he takes office, as he predicts because he has great business skills.

Is this what you tell yourself?

New executive orders may not cost as much as you think!

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If anyone wants to know what happens when a large population of illegals are deported, read a book called "Postville,A Clash Of Cultures". It tells of a very large Kosher meat packing plant in a small Iowa town that was staffed by Mexican line workers. One day an immigration raid was held, the Mexicans were deported, and the Jewish management jailed, the packing plant closed, and the little town dries up and shrivels. No more economy for the townspeople.

Moral of story: It was the packing plant that was good for the town, but the illegals were not!
Apparently this happens if you break laws if they are enforced.
Why do you think management hired illegals?
Could it possibly to hold labor costs down, and profits up?

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What you are missing, by design, on purpose, because the party said so, dumb(?) is the simple task or re-instating enforcement of the laws that are currently on the books.

The laws that are being ignored, not enforced for political gain, political correctness, raism and islamic sympathizing.

There is only one fool who would consider martial law...the current twit in chief!

No new laws required.

No additional justification required.

Insist on laws of the land be effective immediately January 20, 2016.
Not a big deal unless you are one have a gain os some sort by the current lack of enforcement.

If you were allowed to think for yourself and not just blindly follow the party directions of the day you would know that law enforcement is wanted by the majority of we the people...including the thinking democrats, blacks and other law abiding minorities.

Drink the cool aide, trumpy said it tastes good, you wouldn't doubt him would you? LOL

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What you are missing, by design, on purpose, because the party said so, dumb(?) is the simple task or re-instating enforcement of the laws that are currently on the books.

The laws that are being ignored, not enforced for political gain, political correctness, raism and islamic sympathizing.

There is only one fool who would consider martial law...the current twit in chief!

No new laws required.

No additional justification required.

Insist on laws of the land be effective immediately January 20, 2016.
Not a big deal unless you are one have a gain os some sort by the current lack of enforcement.

If you were allowed to think for yourself and not just blindly follow the party directions of the day you would know that law enforcement is wanted by the majority of we the people...including the thinking democrats, blacks and other law abiding minorities.

If its so easy, why didn't Bush43 do it?

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I asked the same question on another thread.

"I have a message for all of you: the crime and violence that today afflicts our nation will soon come to an end. Beginning on January 20th 2017, safety will be restored."

That sounds like an old TV plot. There's a new marshall in town. Now law and order will rule the day.

Maybe he thinks that's what Martial Law is and that's his plan. I could see how he would get those two words mixed up.

Maybe it might be different if we have a president that enforces all laws instead of picking and choosing which ones will serve a political agenda!

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If its so easy, why didn't Bush43 do it?

Because all establishment politicians would not do it.
And that is why we have an outsider like Trump
as a presidential candidate.
Millions of Americans are fed up with not being
heard and sold out by politicians of both parties.

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Drink the cool aide, trumpy said it tastes good, you wouldn't doubt him would you? LOL

All the cool aide is gulped by Dems....why else would they support Hillary....those piggies leave none for others!

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It is now the cult of Donald Trump rather than the Republican Party of Ronald Reagan.

Reagan must be rolling in his grave to see what the Donald has done with respect to limited government. Trump wants to create a police state like you see in some Eastern European, Middle Eastern, and South American countries.

Do cry for me Argentina....

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I'm reposting this link for the heck of it, FactChecking Trump’s Big Speech (http://www.factcheck.org/2016/07/factchecking-trumps-big-speech/)
Trump supporters who keep saying Hillary is a liar need to realize that all Trump does is lie and he'll continue lying to our country. Hillary has lied and dems accept that but Republicans you are blinded by Trump. Please check your facts, don't just agree with Trumps bullsh*t and be brainwashed by him. Wait and see, with Hillary's DNC speech there will be lies but not nearly to the extent of Trumps speeches

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I smell the sweet sent of " Desperation " emanating from each post by the Lefties on this site today .

If they were really as confident as they pretend to be they would just ignore this site .

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I'm reposting this link for the heck of it, FactChecking Trump’s Big Speech (http://www.factcheck.org/2016/07/factchecking-trumps-big-speech/)
Trump supporters who keep saying Hillary is a liar need to realize that all Trump does is lie and he'll continue lying to our country. Hillary has lied and dems accept that but Republicans you are blinded by Trump. Please check your facts, don't just agree with Trumps bullsh*t and be brainwashed by him. Wait and see, with Hillary's DNC speech there will be lies but not nearly to the extent of Trumps speeches

So, small lies are o.k., it's the big ones that bother you.

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I smell the sweet sent of " Desperation " emanating from each post by the Lefties on this site today .

If they were really as confident as they pretend to be they would just ignore this site .


As usual you have no way of denying or arguing Trumps dishonesty and reply with some nonsense about Lefties. Oh and sent is spelled SCENT.

I would ignore this site but I hate to see people being delusional, yes even reps.

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So, small lies are o.k., it's the big ones that bother you.

No I admitted that both candidates are lying. The difference is that reps are actually buying into Trumps bullsh*t and believing his lies. Trump has no political policies so all he can do is make up stories and make up dooms-day ideas. Hillary at least can give us some policies and specifics.

But hey, good job again not being able to defend Trump as the reps continue to do.

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No votes for your candidate to be converted from the vast majority on this site so please keep at it thru election day .
You must be a home bound special needs person otherwise you would be at Clinton`s Regional / Local Headquarters in order to maximize the return for your efforts .
If you really believed in your candidate you would be working hard to get out the vote and also convince the undecided . No gain for your girl from this site .
All a rationale person can conclude is that you have another agenda rather than scoring voters for your side . Hummmmm what could it be ?

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No votes for your candidate to be converted from the vast majority on this site so please keep at it thru election day .
You must be a home bound special needs person otherwise you would be at Clinton`s Regional / Local Headquarters in order to maximize the return for your efforts .
If you really believed in your candidate you would be working hard to get out the vote and also convince the undecided . No gain for your girl from this site .
All a rationale person can conclude is that you have another agenda rather than scoring voters for your side . Hummmmm what could it be ?


Wow, great come back, except you are still not able to quite defend Trump and his blatant lies. Why would you want to back someone who constantly lies to your face??? You are making my point exactly, reps can't be converted because they are brainwashed into believing Trumps lies. Check the facts!!! I thought reps are supposed to be so moral and Christian but are ok Trumps lying???

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No I admitted that both candidates are lying. The difference is that reps are actually buying into Trumps bullsh*t and believing his lies. Trump has no political policies so all he can do is make up stories and make up dooms-day ideas. Hillary at least can give us some policies and specifics.

But hey, good job again not being able to defend Trump as the reps continue to do.

Well, at least Director Comey didn't call him a liar on national television, so Donald has that going for him.:D

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Well, at least Director Comey didn't call him a liar on national television, so Donald has that going for him.:D

Ummm, again, check your facts. Comey didn't call Hillary a liar. And in fact said what she did wasn't illegal. Of course Trump says that it was illegal and once again lies to the American people because he knows better that the FBI

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No I admitted that both candidates are lying. The difference is that reps are actually buying into Trumps bullsh*t and believing his lies. Trump has no political policies so all he can do is make up stories and make up dooms-day ideas. Hillary at least can give us some policies and specifics.

But hey, good job again not being able to defend Trump as the reps continue to do.

Yeah, we've seen what the implementation of her policies have yielded. Take a look at her foreign policy "successes" in: Russia, Israel, Libya, Syria. Iran, Egypt, etc.

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Wow, great come back, except you are still not able to quite defend Trump and his blatant lies. Why would you want to back someone who constantly lies to your face??? You are making my point exactly, reps can't be converted because they are brainwashed into believing Trumps lies. Check the facts!!! I thought reps are supposed to be so moral and Christian but are ok Trumps lying???

You Dems will have a very difficult time convincing
people that Trump is a liar when your candidate Hillary
has so much difficulty mustering any degree of honesty!

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She is not offering anything new --- she believes that overall things are pretty good .
All she is offering is more of the same .

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Ummm, again, check your facts. Comey didn't call Hillary a liar. And in fact said what she did wasn't illegal. Of course Trump says that it was illegal and once again lies to the American people because he knows better that the FBI

Yes when questioned Comey admitted Hillary
did not tell the truth.

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Wow, great come back, except you are still not able to quite defend Trump and his blatant lies. Why would you want to back someone who constantly lies to your face??? You are making my point exactly, reps can't be converted because they are brainwashed into believing Trumps lies. Check the facts!!! I thought reps are supposed to be so moral and Christian but are ok Trumps lying???

Only a Socialist could twist my points into such a ridiculous knot ..
However please continue on this site because your doing so takes one less Hillary soldier off the battle field .
And we thank you for doing so !:bowdown:

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Moral of story: It was the packing plant that was good for the town, but the illegals were not!
Apparently this happens if you break laws if they are enforced.
Why do you think management hired illegals?
Could it possibly to hold labor costs down, and profits up?

The answer to your question is, NO. Look what happened in Southern states that passed tough illegal immigration laws.

Alabama Illegal Immigrant Crackdown Destroys Farm Business | Mic (https://mic.com/articles/8272/alabama-illegal-immigrant-crackdown-destroys-farm-business#.KMVXvMQK8)

Farmers couldn't locals to do the work that illegal were doing, and they offered double the minimum wage.

If you don't think going after illegals aggressively will hurt our economy, you can't see the nose right in front of your face.

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You Dems will have a very difficult time convincing
people that Trump is a liar when your candidate Hillary
has so much difficulty mustering any degree of honesty!

Anyone that doesn't think Trump is a liar, and a con man just isn't looking. You can't convince a person, who isn't looking, of everything.

Has Hillary lied about any of Trump's claims to fame? Has she lied about any of Trump's statements of what he will do, if elected.

All he does is lie about her. I can't stand the woman. It is not right for a person running for the most important position in the country to defend herself against a bold face liar.

He said he wasn't going to lie in his acceptance speech, and all he did was lie.

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Anyone that doesn't think Trump is a liar, and a con man just isn't looking. You can't convince a person, who isn't looking, of everything.

Has Hillary lied about any of Trump's claims to fame? Has she lied about any of Trump's statements of what he will do, if elected.

All he does is lie about her. I can't stand the woman. It is not right for a person running for the most important position in the country to defend herself against a bold face liar.

He said he wasn't going to lie in his acceptance speech, and all he did was lie.

sociopath.

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"All he does is lie about her. I can't stand the woman. It is not right for a person running for the most important position in the country to defend herself against a bold face liar.

And a lot of us, don't want the bold faced liar Hillary,
to be our President. We honestly would never know if she was being truthful or not. Scary to think about that!

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"All he does is lie about her. I can't stand the woman. It is not right for a person running for the most important position in the country to defend herself against a bold face liar.

And a lot of us, don't want the bold faced liar Hillary,
to be our President. We honestly would never know if she was being truthful or not. Scary to think about that!

It`s not about you . It`s not about your family . It`s not about women or Blacks , or Latinos or America .

It`s all about Hillary and her place in history as the first female president . It IS all about her Legacy .
Again if winning would have made her the second female elected to this office she would not be running . It`s all about her .

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Moral of story: It was the packing plant that was good for the town, but the illegals were not!
Apparently this happens if you break laws if they are enforced.
Why do you think management hired illegals?
Could it possibly to hold labor costs down, and profits up?

The Jewish sect did not mix with the locals. The Mexicans stayed by themselves. The Iowans did not mix with either culture.

The Jewish management actually recruited in Mexico and provided the false documents to the immigrants. That is why they were put in prison.

The Mexicans did not mix with locals and townies did not like them due to not knowing Spanish.

No one figured on the domino effect of what would happen if Immigration found out about the scheme of false documents.

Very interesting book. I recommend it! I also have relatives about 15 miles from Postville so I have been there several times.

[Guest]

The answer to your question is, NO. Look what happened in Southern states that passed tough illegal immigration laws.

Alabama Illegal Immigrant Crackdown Destroys Farm Business | Mic (https://mic.com/articles/8272/alabama-illegal-immigrant-crackdown-destroys-farm-business#.KMVXvMQK8)

Farmers couldn't locals to do the work that illegal were doing, and they offered double the minimum wage.

If you don't think going after illegals aggressively will hurt our economy, you can't see the nose right in front of your face.

Any bright person could understand that by giving these illegals amnesty and making them legal, will put them in the same category as those others that refuse to work on the farms. They will LEGALLY price themselves into better jobs in the market, taking our jobs. The farmers are just going to have to start paying proper wages, regardless of what it does to our prices. Anyone can see that. Making illegals legitimate will only expedite more unemployment for our lower level folks that can only qualify for those jobs. Yes, it will hurt our economy by making them legal We only allow so many immigrants into our country at a time. They stand in line. They are the type you would hire, not criminals that want to take short cuts.

Can you not see the logic? Or are you just ignoring the obvious?

[Guest]

OK how about we cut the BS stories about towns drying up and farms going broke because of losing the illehals.

How about we make all the democrats feel good and just say to hell with who ever is here now.

BUT.......starting tomorrow, we are going to 100% enforce the laws on who can or cannot enter this country.

Whether we put up a wall or not will be determined by what is needed to stop the aliens from coming across.....wall, wild dogs, snipers, etc.
Put some :censored: fear in the hearts of those attempting to cross ILLEGALLY.

Some things are easy to stop like the BS catch and release program.

Fixing the illegal immigration problem is easy....just enforce the existing laws on immigration!!!!

Yes, it is just that easy. Don't keep filling the air with BS reasons why it cannot be done. Either add value by helping figure how to get it done or just get the :censored: outta the way and let some real Americans get to work on it.

[Guest]

If Trump is going to be the "Law and Order" president, how is he going to stem the violence in the urban cities? Is he going to confiscate guns from urban youths? Is he going to have police crackdowns on urban youths? That would be divisive and lead to much more violence.

Trump just gave a wish list but offered absolutely NO SUBSTANCE.

What would he be able to get through Congress? ZIPPO!

Well then, why don't we just wall off the inner cities and be done with them? We can't enforce the laws there so why not wall it in? UNsafe zones will be increasing as the numbers of minorities grows.

Sounds like Trump channeled his inner Nixon. From the 1968 acceptance speech:

"As we look at America, we see cities enveloped in smoke and flame. We hear sirens in the night. We see Americans dying on distant battlefields abroad. We see Americans hating each other; fighting each other; killing each other at home. And as we see and hear these things, millions of Americans cry out in anguish. Did we come all this way for this?"

Yes...did we come all this way for this? Ever since the 60s and civil rights, what HAS changed? For the better... Nothing. It's gotten worse as their numbers have grown.

How would YOU like it if the Sumter County police stopped YOU on the streets of The Villages and frisked YOU "up against the wall" in front of your friends - not just one time but rather every time they saw you?

As to illegal immigrants, are you planning to round up 12 million, put them into concertina wire compounds, and bus them across A border, and dump them? They would be back in the USA before the bus returned! Maybe, kneecap them so walking would be more difficult - after all, that is the Republican way.

If I was walking along Jackson street in Wildwood, or MLK Blvd in ANY town, I'm out of place and would probably be asked what I was doing there.

12 million? Ha ha ha...are you kidding? Those are the 1990s numbers. There are over 100 million immigrants or children of immigrants in the US right now, 1/3 the population. And you wonder WHY I'm so urgent in my pleas for us to all work together to SAVE America from turning into Mexico II. Below age 6 the new MAJORITY is Hispanic.

Stop and Frisk is unconstitutional. End of story.

As for the illegal immigrants - create a pathway for legal residence for them. No, not citizenship. Let them work, pay taxes, their children born in the USA are constitutionally citizens, if criminality happens - deport the criminal after doing the sentence in USA.

This decriminalizes illegals and lets them work and pay paxes.

You're not happy with over 100 million of them here? 1/3 the population being Hispanic does alarm you? Anchor babies destroyed us.

If anyone wants to know what happens when a large population of illegals are deported, read a book called "Postville,A Clash Of Cultures". It tells of a very large Kosher meat packing plant in a small Iowa town that was staffed by Mexican line workers. One day an immigration raid was held, the Mexicans were deported, and the Jewish management jailed, the packing plant closed, and the little town dries up and shrivels. No more economy for the townspeople.

Be honest and tell the WHOLE story...in context.

Because all establishment politicians would not do it.
And that is why we have an outsider like Trump
as a presidential candidate.
Millions of Americans are fed up with not being
heard and sold out by politicians of both parties.

Believe me, Trump will sell you out too. If he's elected, he's playing ball. He may scream and yell that he can't get anything through, but as usual, it's all theater. This election is "reality TV".

The answer to your question is, NO. Look what happened in Southern states that passed tough illegal immigration laws.

Alabama Illegal Immigrant Crackdown Destroys Farm Business | Mic (https://mic.com/articles/8272/alabama-illegal-immigrant-crackdown-destroys-farm-business#.KMVXvMQK8)

Farmers couldn't locals to do the work that illegal were doing, and they offered double the minimum wage.

If you don't think going after illegals aggressively will hurt our economy, you can't see the nose right in front of your face.

Welfare pays up to $60,000 a year in benefits, THAT is why the jobs go unfilled.

The nose in front of your face is 1/3 the US population is an immigrant or the child of an immigrant. THEY will be the majority, THEY will be in power. Your grandchildren will curse you.

Any bright person could understand that by giving these illegals amnesty and making them legal, will put them in the same category as those others that refuse to work on the farms. They will LEGALLY price themselves into better jobs in the market, taking our jobs. The farmers are just going to have to start paying proper wages, regardless of what it does to our prices. Anyone can see that. Making illegals legitimate will only expedite more unemployment for our lower level folks that can only qualify for those jobs. Yes, it will hurt our economy by making them legal We only allow so many immigrants into our country at a time. They stand in line. They are the type you would hire, not criminals that want to take short cuts.

Can you not see the logic? Or are you just ignoring the obvious?

No...welfare needs to be cut so it doesn't pay the equivalent of a $60,000 a year job.

OK how about we cut the BS stories about towns drying up and farms going broke because of losing the illehals.

How about we make all the democrats feel good and just say to hell with who ever is here now.

BUT.......starting tomorrow, we are going to 100% enforce the laws on who can or cannot enter this country.

Whether we put up a wall or not will be determined by what is needed to stop the aliens from coming across.....wall, wild dogs, snipers, etc.
Put some :censored: fear in the hearts of those attempting to cross ILLEGALLY.

Some things are easy to stop like the BS catch and release program.

Fixing the illegal immigration problem is easy....just enforce the existing laws on immigration!!!!

Yes, it is just that easy. Don't keep filling the air with BS reasons why it cannot be done. Either add value by helping figure how to get it done or just get the :censored: outta the way and let some real Americans get to work on it.

Too late, they're already here...over 100 million of them.

Immigrant Population Hits Record 42.1 Million in Second Quarter of 2015 | Center for Immigration Studies (http://cis.org/Immigrant-Population-Hits-Record-Second-Quarter-2015) They say there are 42 million immigrants, add their "citizen children" and it's over 100 million.

They are on their way to being the majority and telling US what to do.

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...and the person who posted that racist rant is exactly the kind of uneducated person that Trumpanzee is pandering to for votes.

Very similar to Adolf Hitler in pre-war Germany stirring up fears from the uneducated against the "mongrel races" like Jews, gypsies, non- Aryans. Very scary similarly.

[Guest]

The racist poster does not believe I told the entire story of "Postville - A Clash of Cultures" truthfully and in context. Believe me, I did.

As I said, it is a very interesting book and I urge people to read it. It is probably availabe at the Sumter County library.

[Guest]

...and the person who posted that racist rant is exactly the kind of uneducated person that Trumpanzee is pandering to for votes.

Very similar to Adolf Hitler in pre-war Germany stirring up fears from the uneducated against the "mongrel races" like Jews, gypsies, non- Aryans. Very scary similarly.

He is NOT a Trump supporter. He is looking at voting for a third party candidate, IF you were following his rants throughout this forum. If anything, he leans more toward the left when you consider he is planning to vote for a libertarian.

Nazis were democrat socialists, more in line with your side. Your side, the party of slavery.

[Guest]

Trump's acceptance speech was the longest fear mongering speech ever in English.

[Guest]

Nazis were democrat socialists, more in line with your side. Your side, the party of slavery.
Yes, you sure do understand people and motives. Bernie Sanders, a self proclaimed democratic socialist can best be described as a Nazie Slave Owner. Wouldn't you agree?

[Guest]

Yes, you sure do understand people and motives. Bernie Sanders, a self proclaimed democratic socialist can best be described as a Nazie Slave Owner. Wouldn't you agree?

You said it, not me.

[Guest]

Yes, you sure do understand people and motives. Bernie Sanders, a self proclaimed democratic socialist can best be described as a Nazie Slave Owner. Wouldn't you agree?

I usually just call Bernie the perverted old commie. Will that suffice?

[Guest]

Trump's acceptance speech was the longest fear mongering speech ever in English.

So, you didn't listen to all of it. I would give you a synopsis of his speech, but it would be a waste of my time. Go vote for your criminal Killary. It won't make any difference. I almost wish she would win, because people like you deserve her for four years. Because those that are already needy, certainly have nothing to lose, right?

[Guest]

I usually just call Bernie the perverted old commie. Will that suffice?Originally Posted by Guest View Post
Nazis were democrat socialists, more in line with your side. Your side, the party of slavery.

try to follow the conversation----

[Guest]

Originally Posted by Guest View Post
Nazis were democrat socialists, more in line with your side. Your side, the party of slavery.

try to follow the conversation----

I believe you left out the post regarding Bernie, where the question was asked.....

Perhaps you should "try to follow the conversation"

[Guest]

I believe you left out the post regarding Bernie, where the question was asked.....

Perhaps you should "try to follow the conversation"

Yes, you sure do understand people and motives. Bernie Sanders, a self proclaimed democratic socialist can best be described as a Nazie Slave Owner. Wouldn't you agree?
this is my post


I usually just call Bernie the perverted old commie. Will that suffice?
who made this stupid remark?

[Guest]

Yes, you sure do understand people and motives. Bernie Sanders, a self proclaimed democratic socialist can best be described as a Nazie Slave Owner. Wouldn't you agree?
this is my post


I usually just call Bernie the perverted old commie. Will that suffice?
who made this stupid remark?

Actually, that post fits Bernie. He is a pervert, at least he wrote like one. He IS old. And he is a "commie." OK, I got it. What's the problem with that, and what does it have to do with Trump's fine speech at the RNC?

And by the way, why would you suggest that Bernie would be a slave owner? I realize that he is old, but I don't believe he is that old.