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VApeople
07-24-2016, 08:09 PM
We were walking around Osceola Hills this evening and some guy was letting his two large dogs run around wild. They came charging up to us and really scared us.

He would not give us his name but I saw where he lives so I will go up to CDD at Lake Sumter tomorrow morning and file a complaint. Is there anything else we can do to convince him to ALWAYS have his dogs on leashes when they are off his property?

redwitch
07-24-2016, 08:56 PM
They're supposed to be on a lead even in their own yards unless fenced. Best to call animal control rather than CDD. CCD has no authority to handle this issue. The County does.

Phanatic Luvr
07-24-2016, 09:23 PM
Maybe instead of reporting him, you could have made a suggestion and told him where the new dog park is and suggested since he has large dogs that need to run, that would be a great place for him to take them. It would have been a nice way of breaking into the leash law topic.

VApeople
07-24-2016, 09:31 PM
CCD has no authority to handle this issue. The County does.

So is there anyone in The Villages management who has the authority to enforce the strict leash laws?

redwitch
07-25-2016, 03:49 AM
So is there anyone in The Villages management who has the authority to enforce the strict leash laws?

Nope. The clue is the word "laws". If it is a law, it is up to the appropriate governmental agency to handle it, in this case animal control. Community Watch might have a talk with the dog owner, but is not required to do so.

kcrazorbackfan
07-25-2016, 05:30 AM
Maybe instead of reporting him, you could have made a suggestion and told him where the new dog park is and suggested since he has large dogs that need to run, that would be a great place for him to take them. It would have been a nice way of breaking into the leash law topic.

Isn't that the way of life for most people, reporting someone to "the authority"? I'm surprised the OP didn't whip out the smart phone and start filming everything to be used in court. What happened to the old fashioned talking it out with someone you have a problem with?

RickeyD
07-25-2016, 05:34 AM
Isn't that the way of life for most people, reporting someone to "the authority"? I'm surprised the OP didn't whip out the smart phone and start filming everything to be used in court. What happened to the old fashioned talking it out with someone you have a problem with?



These are the very same type of people that would "tell" on others as children. "Telling" was frowned upon then, encouraged today.

graciegirl
07-25-2016, 06:25 AM
These are the very same type of people that would "tell" on others as children. "Telling" was frowned upon then, encouraged today.

If you see something say something. Check, good.

I love dogs but leash laws are in effect here and I think leash laws are good.

If I remember correctly about MY childhood, "telling" was only "frowned" on by bad kids and folks who ended up in prison complaining about snitches.

I loved being a "good girl". I was shocked later to find out that good girls didn't have any fun.

RickyD....if I see you out running around with your big dogs off leash, I'm tellin'.;)

P.S. Ditto that large Pikichu figure in your front yard that isn't under the eaves.............................................

village dreamer
07-25-2016, 06:48 AM
why have any laws at all.......

redwitch
07-25-2016, 07:35 AM
Sounds like the OP did try to talk to the owner, at least enough to ask his name. There are times when talking to someone does work. I'm not convinced this would be one of them. There are very few towns today that don't have leash laws. The dogs' owner had to know he was in violation of those laws and didn't care.

I don't know if the dogs were running to say hello to the new people, just running and having fun or were trying to protect their owner. I do know it frightened the OP. I would guess that it will take an authority figure to convince this gentleman that his dogs need to be on a lead except at a dog park. Sometimes the only thing that works is threat of a fine or worse.

HimandMe
07-25-2016, 08:24 AM
Maybe instead of reporting him, you could have made a suggestion and told him where the new dog park is and suggested since he has large dogs that need to run, that would be a great place for him to take them. It would have been a nice way of breaking into the leash law topic.

I agree. You know his address. He could just be your next life long friend if you give him a chance to apologize. If he doesn't then...you made the friendly gesture anyway and do what you then think best.

HimandMe
07-25-2016, 08:30 AM
These are the very same type of people that would "tell" on others as children. "Telling" was frowned upon then, encouraged today.

It goes back further than that ..the Pharisees were always looking to find "others" faults, and explained it was trying to see if it was FAIR-U-SEE.

Everyone makes a slip now and then....first give them a chance...and down the road hopefully when you slip up by mistake, they will do likewise.

billethkid
07-25-2016, 09:35 AM
It is because of the few who feel the leash laws do not apply to them that I always have a walking stick with me when I take our dog for her morning two mile walk every day.

Villager Joyce
07-25-2016, 09:59 AM
My hesitancy with calling the authority is fear of the dogs being removed from the house. That many times doesn't have a happy ending. It would be a different story if they put the owners in the pokey.

mfp509
07-25-2016, 11:08 AM
The Villages does nothing about loose dogs. They will give you the number of Animal Control. In Marion county section anyway.

RickeyD
07-25-2016, 11:28 AM
If you see something say something. Check, good.

I love dogs but leash laws are in effect here and I think leash laws are good.

If I remember correctly about MY childhood, "telling" was only "frowned" on by bad kids and folks who ended up in prison complaining about snitches.

I loved being a "good girl". I was shocked later to find out that good girls didn't have any fun.

RickyD....if I see you out running around with your big dogs off leash, I'm tellin'.;)

P.S. Ditto that large Pikichu figure in your front yard that isn't under the eaves.............................................



I was raised not to snitch plus I was a major nerd as a kid. I cut loose as a college freshman and rarely look back.
I always confront any issue directly and rarely approach any authority both in and out of work.

VApeople
07-25-2016, 02:09 PM
I went to the Community Development office at Lake Sumter this morning to complain about the dogs running loose in Osceola Hills, and they took my complaint seriously. They said that because our neighborhood is new, they would have the builder send a letter to the homeowner reminding them of the leash laws in TV. I stressed that these dogs were not the small dogs so common in TV, but they were larger and more aggressive. I said that, to my knowledge, many villagers are armed and might shoot an aggressive dog running loose. I said it would be a very good idea for the builder to talk with the dog owners personally. She seemed very concerned and said she would call the builder.

Then we drove down to the Sumter county Animal Control office in Lake Pannasofkie. They also took our complaint seriously and said they would send an officer to the dog owners house. I told them we used to live in a TV-like community in Maryland and that one homeowner shot and killed a dog that was harassing them. The person at Animal Control did not blink and eye and said that is allowed here as well.

Well, I have not fired a gun in 45 years so I will not go that route, but we will definitely not walk by that house again.

Bonny
07-25-2016, 02:28 PM
It is because of the few who feel the leash laws do not apply to them that I always have a walking stick with me when I take our dog for her morning two mile walk every day.
Yes, and I would use that stick on the owner who didn't leash his fur baby!:icon_wink:

Barefoot
07-25-2016, 02:33 PM
Maybe instead of reporting him, you could have made a suggestion and told him where the new dog park is and suggested since he has large dogs that need to run, that would be a great place for him to take them. It would have been a nice way of breaking into the leash law topic.

You know his address. He could just be your next life long friend if you give him a chance to apologize. If he doesn't then...you made the friendly gesture anyway and do what you then think best.

It goes back further than that ..the Pharisees were always looking to find "others" faults, and explained it was trying to see if it was FAIR-U-SEE.
Everyone makes a slip now and then....first give them a chance...and down the road hopefully when you slip up by mistake, they will do likewise.
I like the "friendly approach" suggestions.

Bogie Shooter
07-25-2016, 02:42 PM
I went to the Community Development office at Lake Sumter this morning to complain about the dogs running loose in Osceola Hills, and they took my complaint seriously. They said that because our neighborhood is new, they would have the builder send a letter to the homeowner reminding them of the leash laws in TV. I stressed that these dogs were not the small dogs so common in TV, but they were larger and more aggressive. I said that, to my knowledge, many villagers are armed and might shoot an aggressive dog running loose. I said it would be a very good idea for the builder to talk with the dog owners personally. She seemed very concerned and said she would call the builder.

Then we drove down to the Sumter county Animal Control office in Lake Pannasofkie. They also took our complaint seriously and said they would send an officer to the dog owners house. I told them we used to live in a TV-like community in Maryland and that one homeowner shot and killed a dog that was harassing them. The person at Animal Control did not blink and eye and said that is allowed here as well.

Well, I have not fired a gun in 45 years so I will not go that route, but we will definitely not walk by that house again.

This is a very strong statement. No dogs have been shot or shot at in The Villages.
Why do you think that someone would shoot a dog in The Villages. That is kinda paranoid to me!
If the folks at Community Development said they would respond to the situation........why then go to Animal Control? What's next a stop at the Sheriffs Office?

jimmemac
07-25-2016, 02:51 PM
We were walking around Osceola Hills this evening and some guy was letting his two large dogs run around wild. They came charging up to us and really scared us?

What did the dogs do other than run up to you???Did they jump on you? Did they scratch you? did they bite you? Did they bark their fool heads off?? Why should small dogs be any different than large dogs?? I understand your being scared because of not knowing but what did you learn about the dogs_that they just run up to you????

Chi-Town
07-25-2016, 03:31 PM
This is a very strong statement. No dogs have been shot or shot at in The Villages.
Why do you think that someone would shoot a dog in The Villages. That is kinda paranoid to me!
If the folks at Community Development said they would respond to the situation........why then go to Animal Control? What's next a stop at the Sheriffs Office?
A few shots at humans in the past but no dogs. [emoji6]

VApeople
07-25-2016, 05:03 PM
Why do you think that someone would shoot a dog in The Villages?

Probably for the same reason a guy shot a dog in the Maryland neighborhood where we lived in the 1970's.


If the folks at Community Development said they would respond to the situation........why then go to Animal Control?

Because I thought they might put more pressure on the dog owner to realize the error of his ways.


What's next a stop at the Sheriffs Office?

Yes, that is next if a loose dog scratches or bites me.

VApeople
07-25-2016, 05:08 PM
What did the dogs do other than run up to you???Did they jump on you? Did they scratch you? did they bite you? Did they bark their fool heads off?? Why should small dogs be any different than large dogs?? I understand your being scared because of not knowing but what did you learn about the dogs_that they just run up to you????

The large dogs ran up very close to us barking loudly in a very aggressive manner. It really scared us. Later the owner finally came out of his house.

Is it reasonable that we were very upset? I would appreciate a Yes or No answer.

Emmakrock@yahoo.com
07-25-2016, 06:31 PM
Have a question how does the dog warden have any business in your own yard,if your dog isn't doing anything wrong.Guess I need to check the law that refers to

Polar Bear
07-25-2016, 06:49 PM
FWIW, following is from the Sumter County website...

"County Code 4-10 states that all dogs must be confined on owners property at all times or under direct control or on a leash when off the owners property.

Otherwise a citation will be issued for the animal running free."

IMO, this is a reasonable law. I seriously doubt TV would ever enforce any rule more strict than this.

graciegirl
07-25-2016, 06:57 PM
FWIW, following is from the Sumter County website...

"County Code 4-10 states that all dogs must be confined on owners property at all times or under direct control or on a leash when off the owners property.

Otherwise a citation will be issued for the animal running free."

IMO, this is a reasonable law. I seriously doubt TV would ever enforce any rule more strict than this.

As usual, a sane and common sense response.

VApeople
07-25-2016, 07:50 PM
FWIW, following is from the Sumter County website...

"County Code 4-10 states that all dogs must be confined on owners property at all times or under direct control or on a leash when off the owners property.

Otherwise a citation will be issued for the animal running free."

IMO, this is a reasonable law.

In my opinion, this law is not reasonable. The phrase "under direct control" is too ambiguous.

I like the statement in section 2.23 of our Declaration of Restrictions which states that dog owners "shall be responsible to keep such pet on a leash".

graciegirl
07-25-2016, 08:03 PM
In my opinion, this law is not reasonable. The phrase "under direct control" is too ambiguous.

I like the statement in section 2.23 of our Declaration of Restrictions which states that dog owners "shall be responsible to keep such pet on a leash".

In my opinion, I think you are one of those rather afraid of all dogs, or not a fan of them.

Barefoot
07-25-2016, 08:09 PM
The large dogs ran up very close to us barking loudly in a very aggressive manner. It really scared us. Later the owner finally came out of his house.
Is it reasonable that we were very upset? I would appreciate a Yes or No answer.
I could tell from the title of the thread that you're very upset about the situation.
Not "Large Dogs Off Leash", but "Large Dogs Running Wild".
You are right that the dogs had no right to be running in the streets.
(I assume the dogs were off the owner's property and not confined by an invisible fence?)
I'm sorry you were scared by these large dogs.

Polar Bear
07-25-2016, 08:29 PM
In my opinion, this law is not reasonable. The phrase "under direct control" is too ambiguous.

I like the statement in section 2.23 of our Declaration of Restrictions which states that dog owners "shall be responsible to keep such pet on a leash".
The phrase "under direct control" is a commonly used phrase in leash laws. Such control is easily demonstrated and a lack of such control is readily obvious. It is not ambiguous to law enforcement.

Requiring that a well-trained dog be on a leash while being supervised on its owner's property is not reasonable. That's why it's rarely (never that I've seen) written into law.

goodtimesintv
07-25-2016, 08:35 PM
Isn't that the way of life for most people, reporting someone to "the authority"? I'm surprised the OP didn't whip out the smart phone and start filming everything to be used in court. What happened to the old fashioned talking it out with someone you have a problem with?

"Talk it out" with somebody whose large dogs are already really scaring me??

Take the chance that the dogs would defend the owner if the o.p. came near him????? No way!!

That owner was obligated to do the talking, and apparently did not. I wouldn't take any chances with his scary dogs defending him if I tried getting close enough to him to talk sense to him!

"They came charging up to us and really scared us."

:ohdear: :ohdear: :ohdear:

jimmemac
07-25-2016, 08:44 PM
We're the dogs in the street or in their yard maybe within an invisible.fence??? Makes a big difference.

Mleeja
07-25-2016, 08:53 PM
I suspect the "talking" was more like scolding or lecturing.

VApeople
07-25-2016, 09:02 PM
In my opinion, I think you are one of those rather afraid of all dogs, or not a fan of them.

You are correct.

Fredster
07-25-2016, 09:03 PM
I googled dog bite statistics and I was really surprised
how many people are bitten annually that require medical attention.
And a number of attacks are fatal.
I remember a friend telling me that one of their labs
attacked a very young neighbor girl, it caused
her Injury and pain, and them legal problems.

VApeople
07-25-2016, 09:06 PM
We're the dogs in the street or in their yard maybe within an invisible.fence???

Yes, the large dogs were in the street about 40 yards from the owners house. The owner was not present, but came out of his house shortly afterwards.

Any more questions?

VApeople
07-25-2016, 09:12 PM
Requiring that a well-trained dog be on a leash while being supervised on its owner's property is not reasonable. That's why it's rarely (never that I've seen) written into law.

Read section 2.23 of the Declaration of Restrictions that you signed when you bought your house. It says that dogs must be on a leash.

Fredster
07-25-2016, 09:13 PM
In my opinion, I think you are one of those rather afraid of all dogs, or not a fan of them.

Not everything is black and white....I generally like dogs and
have had a few over the years. But I don't care for aggressive dogs of any size, or loud yappy ones.
Even dogs, that their owners feel are so gentle and docile can become agitated and aggressive in certain situations.

Polar Bear
07-25-2016, 09:39 PM
Read section 2.23 of the Declaration of Restrictions that you signed when you bought your house. It says that dogs must be on a leash.
First, I clearly spoke of laws, not deed restrictions.

Second, you do know there are different restrictions for the various villages within each district, don't you?

I have read and know what is in the Declaration of Restrictions for my village. It speaks to the number of pets allowed, responsibility for damage, etc. But it does not even address the subject of pets on a leash. It apparently leaves that matter to the Sumter County law previously cited.

goodtimesintv
07-25-2016, 11:16 PM
VApeople, I'm with you, and I'm not at all afraid of dogs, of any kind.

But.....There is one thing that does make me afraid of a dog of any size: when they come on aggressively, and the owner does not, or cannot, make him obey. To me, that tells the dog "go ahead, intimidate all you want".

Ignore people here who want to make you out to be a suspect!

:ohdear:

Barefoot
07-25-2016, 11:31 PM
I don't care for aggressive dogs of any size.
Even dog lovers usually don't care for aggressive dogs.
But sometimes enthusiasm and friendliness can be mistaken for aggressiveness.
The owner of the dogs definitely shouldn't have let the dogs out without his supervision.
He was clearly in violation of the leash law, and clearly not respecting the property of his neighbors or the danger of traffic.
Unless it was a new area under construction, with no neighbor's and no traffic?

Villageswimmer
07-26-2016, 05:26 AM
VApeople, I'm with you, and I'm not at all afraid of dogs, of any kind.

But.....There is one thing that does make me afraid of a dog of any size: when they come on aggressively, and the owner does not, or cannot, make him obey. To me, that tells the dog "go ahead, intimidate all you want".

Ignore people here who want to make you out to be a suspect!

:ohdear:


I'm with you, too. I really like dogs. I feel sorry that you were treated unkindly by some on this board who can't even think a dog (actually, an owner) could be negligent and irresponsible. It wasn't your fault and I can respect your fear.

People first, then dogs.

redwitch
07-26-2016, 05:54 AM
To say I love dogs is probably an understatement. I've even made friends with dogs who have bitten me. I also had an Old English who was never on a lead. If I took him to a town where he wasn't known, my first stop would be the police station to prove that he was totally under voice and hand controls. I only once had an issue in Camarillo where they insisted he had to be on a lead regardless of how well trained he was. Even so, I would never let him out of my house without me being present. There's no excuse for allowing a dog outside without you watching the dog if there's no fence to prevent wandering and I've seen more than one dog run right through an invisible fence. This dog owner was not being responsible and his behavior was inexcusable.

VApeople
07-26-2016, 06:24 AM
He was clearly in violation of the leash law, and clearly not respecting the property of his neighbors or the danger of traffic.
Unless it was a new area under construction, with no neighbor's and no traffic?

Why does it matter whether or not he lives in a new area under construction?

He lives in a new area of Osceola Hills where there are vacant lots to the side of his house and across the street. However, we and others like to walk in the evening and often go down that street.

Are we now supposed to avoid that street?

VApeople
07-26-2016, 06:31 AM
I have read and know what is in the Declaration of Restrictions for my village. It speaks to the number of pets allowed, responsibility for damage, etc. But it does not even address the subject of pets on a leash.

Thanks for pointing that out. Before we moved to Osceola Hills, I asked to see a copy of the Declaration of Restrictions so I could verify that it said dogs must be on a leash. I was told, perhaps incorrectly, that all of the villages have the same restriction on dogs.

Would you please tell the name of the village where you live so I can check your Declaration of Restrictions for myself? Thanks.

Polar Bear
07-26-2016, 06:32 AM
Thanks for pointing that out. Before we moved to Osceola Hills, I asked to see a copy of the Declaration of Restrictions so I could verify that it said dogs must be on a leash. I was told, perhaps incorrectly, that all of the villages have the same restriction on dogs.

Would you please tell the name of the village where you live so I can check your Declaration of Restrictions for myself? Thanks.

Sure. Mallory Square.

graciegirl
07-26-2016, 06:50 AM
VApeople, I'm with you, and I'm not at all afraid of dogs, of any kind.

But.....There is one thing that does make me afraid of a dog of any size: when they come on aggressively, and the owner does not, or cannot, make him obey. To me, that tells the dog "go ahead, intimidate all you want".

Ignore people here who want to make you out to be a suspect!

:ohdear:

I absolutely think people should have their dogs on a leash. That is a law and a good one. I love dogs, but don't have any of our own, and I am afraid of Pitbulls, which may be irrational, but I am. It was mentioning the shooting of a dog that made me wonder if the OP was afraid of all dogs and did not like all dogs. There are many people like him. Everyone would be happier here if people were good dog parents and if they would remember that they may love their furry kids, but others may not, and to make their furry kids behave in a manner as to not make other people offended. The people I know well and our neighbors are all good dog parents and I so enjoy them and their pets. But I love all dogs and attribute good things to them they may not have, and think they will all be equally as fond of me. That is prejudice and I have it. In fact the more I know about people, the better I like dogs. BUT............

The pets on a leash is NOT a deed restriction. That is the law in Sumter and Marion County but not in Lake County, apparently;

Is There a Dog Leash Law in Sumter County (Bushnell, Wildwood, Cherry Lake, Saint Catherine) Florida? - Florida Child Injury Lawyer Blog (http://www.floridachildinjurylawyer.com/2009/03/is_there_a_dog_leash_law_in_su.html)

Is There a Dog Leash Law in Lake County (Altoona, Astatula, Clermont, Eustis, Leesburg, Mount Dora, Tavares) Florida? - Florida Child Injury Lawyer Blog (http://www.floridachildinjurylawyer.com/2010/07/is_there_a_dog_leash_law_for_l.html)

Is There a Dog Leash Law in Marion County (Ocala, Silver Springs ) Florida ? - Florida Child Injury Lawyer Blog (http://www.floridachildinjurylawyer.com/2009/03/is_there_a_dog_leash_law_in_ma.html)

Bogie Shooter
07-26-2016, 07:12 AM
This thread is becoming more entertaining to read than a dog poop thread..................:popcorn::popcorn:

Nucky
07-26-2016, 07:33 AM
I was raised not to snitch plus I was a major nerd as a kid. I cut loose as a college freshman and rarely look back.
I always confront any issue directly and rarely approach any authority both in and out of work.

I got the same report on you from the fella's back home. Lol. Good guy, no snitch! Our boy is well trained but we must take into account the others who live around us. I have our Boxer Mr. Barney take care of his business before we go for a walk. I would never allow him to relieve himself on your property. I think that is just common sense. We put Barney on a leash when we got here and he looked up at me and thought What The Hell Is This Rope For? He is trustworthy and listens well but he is an animal and I don't remember making any laws in Florida so I have decided we'll just follow them instead. Our dog is for the enrichment of our life, not to ever scare anyone or violate their property. If the law says Leash 'em then just do it. :duck:

jimmemac
07-26-2016, 07:34 AM
Yes, the large dogs were in the street about 40 yards from the owners house. The owner was not present, but came out of his house shortly afterwards.

Any more questions?

Then clearly the owner is wrong and I am sorry that this happened to you. I sure hope this gets resolved for you and your neighbors.

RickeyD
07-26-2016, 08:00 AM
I got the same report on you from the fella's back home. Lol. Good guy, no snitch! Our boy is well trained but we must take into account the others who live around us. I have our Boxer Mr. Barney take care of his business before we go for a walk. I would never allow him to relieve himself on your property. I think that is just common sense. We put Barney on a leash when we got here and he looked up at me and thought What The Hell Is This Rope For? He is trustworthy and listens well but he is an animal and I don't remember making any laws in Florida so I have decided we'll just follow them instead. Our dog is for the enrichment of our life, not to ever scare anyone or violate their property. If the law says Leash 'em then just do it. :duck:



Now I feel sorry for Mr. Barney [emoji240]

photo1902
07-26-2016, 08:13 AM
First, I clearly spoke of laws, not deed restrictions.

Second, you do know there are different restrictions for the various villages within each district, don't you?

I have read and know what is in the Declaration of Restrictions for my village. It speaks to the number of pets allowed, responsibility for damage, etc. But it does not even address the subject of pets on a leash. It apparently leaves that matter to the Sumter County law previously cited.

Read 'em again. 2.23, Shall be responsible to keep such pet on a leash.

graciegirl
07-26-2016, 08:53 AM
Now I feel sorry for Mr. Barney [emoji240]

Mr. Barney has visited our home. He is gentle and has good manners and is much loved. I have not yet approached him about being my nephew, but I am planning to do so.

kstew43
07-26-2016, 09:33 AM
possibly the dogs have a invisible fence and that is why they are allowed to roam the yard unleashed.

whoops...never mind....missed the fact the dogs were in the road......

justjim
07-26-2016, 09:47 AM
When we had a dog, we observed that it took a while for ours to adapt when we moved. OP, perhaps this is the case with the encounter you recently had in the new area of TV. I'm not making excuses for the owner who should had them on a leash---but when you first move there are many many "things" on your mind.

In a few days, I would try a civil conversation before I would take the next steps. 95% of the time that works.

Polar Bear
07-26-2016, 10:24 AM
Read 'em again. 2.23, Shall be responsible to keep such pet on a leash.


Give me a link. I read it again. Said the same thing as last time I read it.

But just for the record, read my previous posts again. I was discussing laws, not deed restrictions.

Barefoot
07-26-2016, 10:44 AM
Why does it matter whether or not he lives in a new area under construction?
He lives in a new area of Osceola Hills where there are vacant lots to the side of his house and across the street. It matters because I'd posted that dog owner wasn't being respectful of neighbors.
And that he could be putting the dogs' lives in jeopardy because of traffic.
If there are no neighbors and no night traffic, then those two statements have no relevance.

However dogs should never be let outside to roam, for any reason.
VApeople, I am sincerely sorry that you were scared by these dogs.
No, you shouldn't have to avoid these areas. The owner should be supervising the dogs and have them under his control.

We have previously had members that stated they took their dogs to areas under construction to let them get some exercise.
I'm not saying that is OK. I personally wouldn't let my dogs off leash anywhere but a fenced dogpark.
But it obviously happens in new areas.

Polar Bear
07-26-2016, 10:50 AM
The Code 4-10 requirement for a dog to be on a leash does not apply to a dog on its owner's property:

"Section 4 – 10 – Dogs and Cats Running at Large – a dog owner has a duty to keep dogs from “running at large” when in or upon any public street, sidewalk, or other public property of another."

From the Official Sumter County Government Website FAQ's:

"What are the leash laws in Sumter County?
County Code 4-10 states that all dogs must be confined on owners property at all times or under direct control or on a leash when off the owners property.

Otherwise a citation will be issued for the animal running free."

And just so there is no misunderstanding of my personal opinion regarding this matter, I believe a dog should be leashed when on public property, or even on private property that the dog's owner does not own. I'm simply against the idea that a well-trained, directly supervised dog should be required to be on a leash on his owner's property. And I don't believe the above Sumter County code requires that.

photo1902
07-26-2016, 11:52 AM
Give me a link. I read it again. Said the same thing as last time I read it.

But just for the record, read my previous posts again. I was discussing laws, not deed restrictions.

Start here, find your district, and read. Basically, choose any district, any lot, etc, in The Villages. They all have the same pets on a leash requirement. And yes, you're right, you were discussing laws, but you were the one that said its not in your deed restrictions.

VCDD Deed Compliance - Sumter County (http://www.districtgov.org/departments/community-standards/deedrestrict-SumterCounty.aspx)

Polar Bear
07-26-2016, 12:23 PM
Start here, find your district, and read. Basically, choose any district, any lot, etc, in The Villages. They all have the same pets on a leash requirement. And yes, you're right, you were discussing laws, but you were the one that said its not in your deed restrictions.

VCDD Deed Compliance - Sumter County (http://www.districtgov.org/departments/community-standards/deedrestrict-SumterCounty.aspx)

I'm using your link and still get the same results.

Let's put aside our possible differences for a minute...this is getting weird. :)

photo1902
07-26-2016, 12:41 PM
I'm using your link and still get the same results.

Let's put aside our possible differences for a minute...this is getting weird. :)

No worries, PB, didnt mean for it to seem weird. Try this one though, it should be a direct link.

http://www.districtgov.org/images/DeedRestiction/sumter/District%206/S6-112.pdf

Polar Bear
07-26-2016, 12:53 PM
No worries, PB, didnt mean for it to seem weird. Try this one though, it should be a direct link.

http://www.districtgov.org/images/DeedRestiction/sumter/District%206/S6-112.pdf

Boy do I ever stand corrected. Guess I just didn't read far enough...about three times. Sheesh. My humble apology.

But now I wonder about one thing...how do I get the leash on my bird and fish? :)

photo1902
07-26-2016, 12:58 PM
Boy do I ever stand corrected. Guess I just didn't read far enough...about three times. Sheesh. My humble apology.

But now I wonder about one thing...how do I get the leash on my bird and fish? :)

You have to be reaaaaaallllly quick! :)

VApeople
07-26-2016, 01:19 PM
Read 'em again. 2.23, Shall be responsible to keep such pet on a leash.

Thanks for pointing that out, Photo.

I went to CDD this morning and asked to see a copy of the Deed Restrictions for Mallory Square, and it said very clearly that dogs had to be on a leash, not just "under control". The person working there said the basic Deed Restrictions like this are the same for all areas south of 466.

graciegirl
07-26-2016, 01:36 PM
Thanks for pointing that out, Photo.

I went to CDD this morning and asked to see a copy of the Deed Restrictions for Mallory Square, and it said very clearly that dogs had to be on a leash, not just "under control". The person working there said the basic Deed Restrictions like this are the same for all areas south of 466.

You are right and everyone agrees with you so hope those dogs owners do what is right and you will be happy here.

gap2415
07-26-2016, 01:47 PM
I went to the Community Development office at Lake Sumter this morning to complain about the dogs running loose in Osceola Hills, and they took my complaint seriously. They said that because our neighborhood is new, they would have the builder send a letter to the homeowner reminding them of the leash laws in TV. I stressed that these dogs were not the small dogs so common in TV, but they were larger and more aggressive. I said that, to my knowledge, many villagers are armed and might shoot an aggressive dog running loose. I said it would be a very good idea for the builder to talk with the dog owners personally. She seemed very concerned and said she would call the builder.

Then we drove down to the Sumter county Animal Control office in Lake Pannasofkie. They also took our complaint seriously and said they would send an officer to the dog owners house. I told them we used to live in a TV-like community in Maryland and that one homeowner shot and killed a dog that was harassing them. The person at Animal Control did not blink and eye and said that is allowed here as well.

Well, I have not fired a gun in 45 years so I will not go that route, but we will definitely not walk by that house again.

Wow! I'm glad I don't have a dog as occasionally they get loose by oversight. My cat sneaked out once but my neighbor helped me catch her,

VApeople
07-26-2016, 02:48 PM
You are right and everyone agrees with you so hope those dogs owners do what is right and you will be happy here.

Thanks, Gracie. We have been here two months and are really enjoying ourselves in a rental patio villa while our new house is being built. While Virginia was a great place to live, we both love being back in Florida where we met 46 years ago.

We will be happy here no matter what the dog owners do. As one great American said:

“I am still determined to be cheerful and happy, in whatever situation I may be; for I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.”

Martha Washington

Polar Bear
07-26-2016, 02:53 PM
Yeah, let's not let your original topic get lost among all the other discussions. You had a legitimate concern.

Welcome back to Florida.

Bogie Shooter
07-26-2016, 04:13 PM
Thanks for pointing that out, Photo.

I went to CDD this morning and asked to see a copy of the Deed Restrictions for Mallory Square, and it said very clearly that dogs had to be on a leash, not just "under control". The person working there said the basic Deed Restrictions like this are the same for all areas south of 466.

All deed restrictions are posted on Village Community Development Districts (http://www.districtgov.org).
Save a little gas.....

HoosierPa
07-26-2016, 04:41 PM
This is a very strong statement. No dogs have been shot or shot at in The Villages.
Why do you think that someone would shoot a dog in The Villages. That is kinda paranoid to me!
If the folks at Community Development said they would respond to the situation........why then go to Animal Control? What's next a stop at the Sheriffs Office?

Agreed Bogie...and my experience is most dogs are more aggressive on a leash although I understand the need to keep them under control

VApeople
07-26-2016, 05:22 PM
All deed restrictions are posted on Village Community Development Districts (http://www.districtgov.org).
Save a little gas.....

I looked at that website. Exactly how would I use it to find the Deed Restrictions for Mallory Square?