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Guest
07-25-2016, 07:32 PM
Until a balanced budget amendment with no loopholes is made into law Democrats are going to win. The Republican House cut their own throat when they pass the gigantic spending bill and went on vacation last Dec. Republicans are in love with deficit spending as much as Dems are, just apply it a little differently. Unfortunately they apply it to fewer voters than Dems do. The cheering for Hillary and Trump make me ill.

Guest
07-25-2016, 07:35 PM
Until a balanced budget amendment with no loopholes is made into law Democrats are going to win. The Republican House cut their own throat when they pass the gigantic spending bill and went on vacation last Dec. Republicans are in love with deficit spending as much as Dems are, just apply it a little differently. Unfortunately they apply it to fewer voters than Dems do. The cheering for Hillary and Trump make me ill.

It's ludicrous to think that anyone in congress is going to push a balanced budget amendment and lose voters. Trump might push it, but it wouldn't get passed. However, if he is as good a negotiator as he suggests, maybe..

Guest
07-26-2016, 05:20 PM
It's ludicrous to think that anyone in congress is going to push a balanced budget amendment and lose voters. Trump might push it, but it wouldn't get passed. However, if he is as good a negotiator as he suggests, maybe..

His campaign promises blow the budget worse than Hillary's. When and how does it end, it has to.

Guest
07-26-2016, 05:28 PM
I think they passed it to shut the democrats up and take it off the campaign HS. If democrats were concerned about balance budget when they were in control for 11 or so years they could of done something besides add earmarks to ever bill doubling downing the cost of bill by kidnapping. Don't say repub do it they do but LIbrats are the queens of the earmarks.

Guest
07-27-2016, 05:16 AM
It's ludicrous to think that anyone in congress is going to push a balanced budget amendment and lose voters. Trump might push it, but it wouldn't get passed. However, if he is as good a negotiator as he suggests, maybe..

Ha ha ha...a balanced budget...you mean like Clinton? Who robbed the SS trustfund to balance it?

His campaign promises blow the budget worse than Hillary's. When and how does it end, it has to.

More debt fixes the problem of not enough money to pay for everything...or so they say. Don't YOU try that at home.

He'll borrow/spend like a mad man. A LOT of people will get VERY rich. Why do you think he's there? If the R party REALLY didn't want Trump, he'd be ignored like EVERY candidate "they" don't want. This is all theater. We're being played...again...politics as usual.

Guest
07-27-2016, 06:07 AM
A balanced budget would never get signed by the BLM-in-chief.

Guest
07-27-2016, 06:14 AM
[QUOTE=Guest;1260686]I think they passed it to shut the democrats up and take it off the campaign HS. If democrats were concerned about balance budget when they were in control for 11 or so years they could of done something besides add earmarks to ever bill doubling downing the cost of bill by kidnapping. Don't say repub do it they do but LIbrats are the queens of the earmarks.[/QUOTE

"I think they passed it to shut the democrats up"

You mean the repus are into appeasement? LOL

Guest
07-27-2016, 08:01 AM
I asked where does it end. The forum is a good example of why it doesn't. Both parties pointing fingers at each other while the disaster keeps coming. Where are the adults. I would think the milliniums would be leading the balanced budget push but they are as addicted to deficit spending and free stuff as our generation is.

Guest
07-27-2016, 08:36 AM
A constitutional amendment to balance the budget would never pass. We are borrowing about 40 percent of what we spend, so we would need to cut spending by 40 percent. In fact, I don't think any constitutional amendment could pass. The country is too polarized.

Guest
07-27-2016, 12:41 PM
A constitutional amendment to balance the budget would never pass. We are borrowing about 40 percent of what we spend, so we would need to cut spending by 40 percent. In fact, I don't think any constitutional amendment could pass. The country is too polarized.

That's what happens when you diversify...you lose your country. We're nothing but a bunch of squabbling minorities.

We spend $600,000,000,000 a year on interest alone. That's MORE than the yearly income for ANY corporation on the entire planet. WalMart makes less than $500 billion a year. Just think ALL the money WM makes is still WELL below what this country pays in interest alone.

We're doomed. Interest rates are kept artificially low so we can make the minimum payments. We KEEP borrowing...not only to keep the government functioning but to pay off maturing debt. Most just gets rolled over into another bond at at criminally low rate. We'll NEVER pay off $20 trillion...never...it's over $60,000 per man woman and child.

Plus...we have that latin population explosion with hispanics becoming the majority and gaining ALL political power within 30 years.

Your grandchildren will curse you.

Guest
07-27-2016, 12:48 PM
That's what happens when you diversify...you lose your country. We're nothing but a bunch of squabbling minorities.

We spend $600,000,000,000 a year on interest alone. That's MORE than the yearly income for ANY corporation on the entire planet. WalMart makes less than $500 billion a year. Just think ALL the money WM makes is still WELL below what this country pays in interest alone.

We're doomed. Interest rates are kept artificially low so we can make the minimum payments. We KEEP borrowing...not only to keep the government functioning but to pay off maturing debt. Most just gets rolled over into another bond at at criminally low rate. We'll NEVER pay off $20 trillion...never...it's over $60,000 per man woman and child.

Plus...we have that latin population explosion with hispanics becoming the majority and gaining ALL political power within 30 years.

Your grandchildren will curse you.

If you keep blathering on and on with this, everyone will be "cursing you."

Guest
07-27-2016, 01:10 PM
If you keep blathering on and on with this, everyone will be "cursing you."

Only when you FINALLY get it... They're using you to enrich themselves.

Guest
07-27-2016, 08:33 PM
A constitutional amendment to balance the budget would never pass. We are borrowing about 40 percent of what we spend, so we would need to cut spending by 40 percent. In fact, I don't think any constitutional amendment could pass. The country is too polarized.
Well this is a great start, you and I understand what is happening. Now is we can each call 5 friends!!!

Guest
07-27-2016, 10:35 PM
I think they passed it to shut the democrats up and take it off the campaign HS. If democrats were concerned about balance budget when they were in control for 11 or so years they could of done something besides add earmarks to ever bill doubling downing the cost of bill by kidnapping. Don't say repub do it they do but LIbrats are the queens of the earmarks.

You should try just once backing up your statements with facts. There were budget surpluses under Bill Clinton.

"W' took over, and we were attacked on 9/11. Now, we wound up in Iraq, and Afghanistan unfunded wars. Are we calling unfunded wars earmarks? Add to that a massive tax cut. Say goodbye to the budget surpluses.

Then, the Great Recession hits, and say hello to Obama. Amazing as it may seem, tax collection go down with the Great Recession. Obama didn't go nuts with social programs. The large increase in the budget deficits were a result of the reduction in taxes. Obama didn't pass the "W" tax cut to the upper tax bracket, and the Republicans bitched about it.

If you want to balance the budget, you start with revising the income tax code especially to large US corporation that are avoiding pay federal income taxes. You can't cut yourself into a balanced budget.

Republicans won't approve federal income tax changes. Democrats won't approve large spending cuts to social programs.

With the unemployment rate being what it is, there won't be a large increase in tax collections due to more people entering the work force.

Trump is making promises that will cripple the US. The Republicans will stop Clinton from doing anything. We are headed to 4 or 8 more years of gridlock under Clinton, Or another Great recession/depression under Trump. You gives a damn about a balanced budget. Until the parties work together, nothing will change. There will be just a lot of finger pointing, and blaming the other party for everything.

Guest
07-27-2016, 10:38 PM
Here are the figures of budget deficits/surpluses. I should have included it above.
The U.S. Federal Budget | Charts and Figures (http://federal-budget.insidegov.com/)

Guest
07-28-2016, 05:26 AM
You should try just once backing up your statements with facts. There were budget surpluses under Bill Clinton.

"W' took over, and we were attacked on 9/11. Now, we wound up in Iraq, and Afghanistan unfunded wars. Are we calling unfunded wars earmarks? Add to that a massive tax cut. Say goodbye to the budget surpluses.

Then, the Great Recession hits, and say hello to Obama. Amazing as it may seem, tax collection go down with the Great Recession. Obama didn't go nuts with social programs. The large increase in the budget deficits were a result of the reduction in taxes. Obama didn't pass the "W" tax cut to the upper tax bracket, and the Republicans bitched about it.

If you want to balance the budget, you start with revising the income tax code especially to large US corporation that are avoiding pay federal income taxes. You can't cut yourself into a balanced budget.

Republicans won't approve federal income tax changes. Democrats won't approve large spending cuts to social programs.

With the unemployment rate being what it is, there won't be a large increase in tax collections due to more people entering the work force.

Trump is making promises that will cripple the US. The Republicans will stop Clinton from doing anything. We are headed to 4 or 8 more years of gridlock under Clinton, Or another Great recession/depression under Trump. You gives a damn about a balanced budget. Until the parties work together, nothing will change. There will be just a lot of finger pointing, and blaming the other party for everything.

Here are the figures of budget deficits/surpluses. I should have included it above.
The U.S. Federal Budget | Charts and Figures (http://federal-budget.insidegov.com/)

Yes...please...FACTS.

The FACT is...there was NO surplus ANY of the years Clinton was in office. EVERY YEAR the total debt went up.

Besides, it was an accounting trick, he took a LOT from the SS "trust fund". A LOT!

Guest
07-28-2016, 06:49 AM
You should try just once backing up your statements with facts. There were budget surpluses under Bill Clinton.

"W' took over, and we were attacked on 9/11. Now, we wound up in Iraq, and Afghanistan unfunded wars. Are we calling unfunded wars earmarks? Add to that a massive tax cut. Say goodbye to the budget surpluses.

Then, the Great Recession hits, and say hello to Obama. Amazing as it may seem, tax collection go down with the Great Recession. Obama didn't go nuts with social programs. The large increase in the budget deficits were a result of the reduction in taxes. Obama didn't pass the "W" tax cut to the upper tax bracket, and the Republicans bitched about it.

If you want to balance the budget, you start with revising the income tax code especially to large US corporation that are avoiding pay federal income taxes. You can't cut yourself into a balanced budget.

Republicans won't approve federal income tax changes. Democrats won't approve large spending cuts to social programs.

With the unemployment rate being what it is, there won't be a large increase in tax collections due to more people entering the work force.

Trump is making promises that will cripple the US. The Republicans will stop Clinton from doing anything. We are headed to 4 or 8 more years of gridlock under Clinton, Or another Great recession/depression under Trump. You gives a damn about a balanced budget. Until the parties work together, nothing will change. There will be just a lot of finger pointing, and blaming the other party for everything.

Sorry, but you are wrong. There was NEVER a surplus during the Clinton administration. There has not been a pay down of the national debt since Eisenhower. You can check it out on TreasuryDirect.gov The figures are there.