" Hedge Funds Back Clinton "

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Published in " The Wall Street Journal " July 30th , 2016 pg A5


" Hedge Funds are playing a far bigger role than in past elections
and Hillary Clinton has been the single biggest beneficiary ."

" Owners and employees of hedge funds have made $122.7 Million
in campaign contributions this election cycle , more then twice as much as they gave during the 2012 cycle ".

" The data shows that the seven financial firms alone have generated nearly $48.5 million for groups working for Mrs. Clinton ."
" The total for Donald Trump : about $19,000 . "
" And amid criticism that Mrs. Clinton has close ties with the financial industry , her campaign has emphasized her plan to confront Wall Street " .

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That's because Trump promised to tax the hedge funds. Hillary told Wall St not to worry about what she says about taxing them. She would never push it hard enough to get it done. Hillary is taking in big bucks from Wall St.

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It is a very strange situation has to make a reasonable person wonder if she really has any intention to " go after Wall Street " .
Here is a bit more from the same article :

" Hillary Clinton has the toughest plan to reform Wall Street , clean up the abuses .. and close loopholes that benefit hedge funds a campaign manager said ".
" Multimillion-dollar donors to groups backing Mrs. Clinton Haim Saban , who controls Saban Capital Group ; Renaissance Technologies LLC founder James Simons ; George Soros of Soros Fund Management , and Paloma Partners founder Donald Susman ".
NOTE : A photo in the same article of Mr. Simons states as a caption : " James Simons has contributed $9.5 Million to Clinton groups .

Mr. Simons is one of the wealthiest people on Wall Street --- other articles state that he made over $1.5 Billion thru his trading activities last year .
Clearly they feel that Hillary will not do anything to interfere with their business practices .

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Amazing

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That's because Trump promised to tax the hedge funds. Hillary told Wall St not to worry about what she says about taxing them. She would never push it hard enough to get it done. Hillary is taking in big bucks from Wall St."Donald Trump said “hedge fund guys are getting away with murder” when he called for ending a lucrative tax advantage for investment managers, but his published tax plan would give them an even bigger break.

Trump, the presumptive Republican nomi..............."


Trump's Tough Talk on Hedge-Fund Taxes Doesn't Match His Plan - Bloomberg Politics (http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-05-09/trump-s-tough-talk-on-hedge-fund-taxes-doesn-t-match-his-plan)

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BFD.....a lot of people back the wrong horse at the race track every day.

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BFD.....a lot of people back the wrong horse at the race track every day.But most people are not in the business of assessing risks and rewards, are they?

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Obviously Wall Street realizes that Ms. Clinton`s flogging them in her campaign is just the opposite of what she will really do when in office . Behind " The Curtin " an understanding has been reached .
Otherwise these mostly publicly unknown titans would not be feeding so much of their money into her campaign .
Trump on the other-hand they do fear which is why they are trying to sink him . They fear that they could not control him .

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Obviously Wall Street realizes that Ms. Clinton`s flogging them in her campaign is just the opposite of what she will really do when in office . Behind " The Curtin " an understanding has been reached .
Otherwise these mostly publicly unknown titans would not be feeding so much of their money into her campaign .
Trump on the other-hand they do fear which is why they are trying to sink him . They fear that they could not control him .

:agree: ...:thumbup:

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Obviously Wall Street realizes that Ms. Clinton`s flogging them in her campaign is just the opposite of what she will really do when in office . Behind " The Curtin " an understanding has been reached .
Otherwise these mostly publicly unknown titans would not be feeding so much of their money into her campaign .
Trump on the other-hand they do fear which is why they are trying to sink him . They fear that they could not control him .

Really? You really believe that?

Trump IS playing ball...it's an act, it's theater, it's reality TV.

Trump NEEDS the banks...his livelihood depends on it. You REALLY think he's going to try to screw them over?

you're being played...

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Obviously Wall Street realizes that Ms. Clinton`s flogging them in her campaign is just the opposite of what she will really do when in office . Behind " The Curtin " an understanding has been reached .
Otherwise these mostly publicly unknown titans would not be feeding so much of their money into her campaign .
Trump on the other-hand they do fear which is why they are trying to sink him . They fear that they could not control him .

Agree, a RIGGED system

He can't be bought.

All the data on Clintons (esp their foundations and speaking fees show otherwise

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Really? You really believe that?

Trump IS playing ball...it's an act, it's theater, it's reality TV.

Trump NEEDS the banks...his livelihood depends on it. You REALLY think he's going to try to screw them over?

you're being played...

Yes every business needs one or more commercial bank . The larger the business or business empire the more relationships with commercial banks .

Commercial Banks are NOT " Investment Banks " or Wall Street Hedge Funds . There is a HUGE difference .

It`s the Hedge Fund Managers / Owner/ Operators and the Investment Bankers that traditionally ride as close to or over the edge of the Regulatory Operating Rules as possible .
It is the same folks who often operate on " Insider Information ". These are NOT the type of Funds and Investments that would be open / available to 99% of US Voters .

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The Dems are extremely good at pretending to attack an industry while the same industry is very comfortable handing them millions to do so .

Why ? Because the Captains of the industries in question have already received the " nod and wink " that all will cease when the election is won . Then it will be business as usual and the Dem Voters will have tuned back in to their favorite TV Shows for another 4 years .

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The Dems are extremely good at pretending to attack an industry while the same industry is very comfortable handing them millions to do so .

Why ? Because the Captains of the industries in question have already received the " nod and wink " that all will cease when the election is won . Then it will be business as usual and the Dem Voters will have tuned back in to their favorite TV Shows for another 4 years .

Yes so sadly true .

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The Dems are extremely good at pretending to attack an industry while the same industry is very comfortable handing them millions to do so . .

What industry are you talking about?

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What industry are you talking about?
now i get it

What do you know about bank bailouts?

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What industry are you talking about?

Wall Street : Investment Banks [ Goldman Sachs , Morgan Stanley et al ] and Hedge Funds and their owner/operators such as Hillary`s son-in -law who just tanked his and cost his investors millions BTW .

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now i get it

What do you know about bank bailouts?
Forbes Welcome (http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikecollins/2015/07/14/the-big-bank-bailout/#25c332eb3723)

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now i get it

What do you know about bank bailouts?

A great deal -- in the industry for 35 years . First 15 at one of the largest banks in America .

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A great deal -- in the industry for 35 years . First 15 at one of the largest banks in America .

So you know that "banking" is just a giant Ponzi scheme?

That the banks get "credit" from the Fed and use that to "create money" that they "lend" to you for interest?

Did you get your "million dollar bonus" while some poor fool who lost their job gets their stuff "repossessed" because they can't make the interest payments?

You know that the bank didn't really have anything to lose when they "loaned the money" but everything to gain when they repossess?

Banking is stealing.

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So you know that "banking" is just a giant Ponzi scheme?

That the banks get "credit" from the Fed and use that to "create money" that they "lend" to you for interest?

Did you get your "million dollar bonus" while some poor fool who lost their job gets their stuff "repossessed" because they can't make the interest payments?

You know that the bank didn't really have anything to lose when they "loaned the money" but everything to gain when they repossess?

Banking is stealing.

Amazingly ignorant analysis . Clearly no understanding of finance or accounting . etc .
And I will not take the bait and get into it with you because ithe subject matter is obviously too complex for your emotion driven little mind .

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Amazingly ignorant analysis . Clearly no understanding of finance or accounting . etc .
And I will not take the bait and get into it with you because ithe subject matter is obviously too complex for your emotion driven little mind .

I resemble that remark .

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I resemble that remark .

Michael Jackson and The 3 Stooges
Sure-we're not old.

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Originally Posted by Guest View Post
So you know that "banking" is just a giant Ponzi scheme?

That the banks get "credit" from the Fed and use that to "create money" that they "lend" to you for interest?

Did you get your "million dollar bonus" while some poor fool who lost their job gets their stuff "repossessed" because they can't make the interest payments?

You know that the bank didn't really have anything to lose when they "loaned the money" but everything to gain when they repossess?

Banking is stealing.

Amazingly ignorant analysis . Clearly no understanding of finance or accounting . etc .
And I will not take the bait and get into it with you because ithe subject matter is obviously too complex for your emotion driven little mind .

You won't get into it with me because you know I'm right and "banking" IS stealing. Federal reserve "Money" is debt, nothing more.

Banking is a Ponzi? modern banking is a ponzi scheme - Google Search (https://www.google.com/search?q=modern+banking+is+a+ponzi+scheme&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8)

Modern fractional reserve banking is stealing. The same money is lent over and over, each time interest is charged. You're STEALING from people. What did the bank "put up" for the loan? An entry into a ledger. That is ALL the bank has on the line. And they collect interest for that.

modern banking is a ponzi scheme - Google Search (https://www.google.com/search?q=modern+banking+is+a+ponzi+scheme&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=how+is+money+created+in+a+banking+system)

" Banks create new money whenever they make loans. 97% of the money in the economy today is created by banks, whilst just 3% is created by the government."

modern banking is a ponzi scheme - Google Search (https://www.google.com/search?q=modern+banking+is+a+ponzi+scheme&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=bankers+bonuses+during+the+banking+crisis)

"Bankers Reaped Lavish Bonuses During Bailouts ... that led to large bonuses on Wall Street are often cited as a cause of the financial crisis"

modern banking is a ponzi scheme - Google Search (https://www.google.com/search?q=modern+banking+is+a+ponzi+scheme&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=fiat+money+and+fractional+reserve+banking)

Read 'em and weep...

Who doesn't "understand"...the "expert" who was in the field for 35 years...as what? A teller? A loan originator?

Don't speak if you don't know what you're talking about...ok lady?

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Each on of those links IS different, only the name displayed stayed the same.

How money is created in the banking system
Bankers bonuses during the banking crisis
fiat money and fractional reserve banking

That's what the links are.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Guest View Post
So you know that "banking" is just a giant Ponzi scheme?





modern banking is a ponzi scheme - Google Search (https://www.google.com/search?q=modern+banking+is+a+ponzi+scheme&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=fiat+money+and+fractional+reserve+banking)

Read 'em and weep...

Who doesn't "understand"...the "expert" who was in the field for 35 years...as what? A teller? A loan originator?

Don't speak if you don't know what you're talking about...ok lady?

I was a very senior exec for over 20 years.

However you no doubt have forgotten much more knowledge about the financial services industry than I ever knew .
So I am sincerely humbled to have had you even notice my pitiful posting .
Very sorry if I caused you any upset . And many thanks for straightening me out .

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I was a very senior exec for over 20 years.

However you no doubt have forgotten much more knowledge about the financial services industry than I ever knew .
So I am sincerely humbled to have had you even notice my pitiful posting .
Very sorry if I caused you any upset . And many thanks for straightening me out .

So...you're VERY rich and it's ALL ill gotten...and you have no excuse so better to remain silent instead of lie and get torn apart.

Got it!

You deflected well...you learned from those psychologists who study how to manipulate people.

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So...you're VERY rich and it's ALL ill gotten...and you have no excuse so better to remain silent instead of lie and get torn apart.

Got it!

You deflected well...you learned from those psychologists who study how to manipulate people.


Your education and experience put mine to shame .

I am humbled to share the same Board with you or to breath the same Villages air .

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Trump who is perhaps too honest for his own good.
He has shown us/me things that I did not know and perhaps, did not want to know. The crooked, delegate system, the rich-including himself-giving money to candidates simply to have an ear should they win.
The Clintons-well the most skilled liars in the history of the US. They have been caught so many times and have slid past it. WHITEWATER, BOSNIA, E-MAILS, SABOTAGE OF BERNIE, TRAVELGATE, MONICAGATE ALL COME TO MIND-THERE ARE FAR TOO MANY MORE.
Back to Wall Street-HILLY"S son in law IS A HEDGE FUND MANAGER and has lost a fortune for the people who invested with him.
FOR US IN THE VILLAGES, FOR ME AT LEAST-Hilly wants to end the BUSH TAX CUT that allows you to pay long term tax rate on stock dividends-top 15% on regular income it can go to top 56%? On bonds you pay whatever your top tax rate is. Reason why dividend stocks are priced far higher than what is historically normal.