Obamas Nuclear Farewell : WSJ 8.5.16 Editorial

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" With his time in office winding down, President Obama plans to make a valedictory round of changes to U.S. nuclear weapons policy. The aim is to cement his cherished " Prague Agenda " , named for the Czech city where in 2009 he set out his vision for a nuclear free world . The moves would more likely cement his legacy for arms control illusions that are producing a new era of nuclear proliferation ."

" Mr. Obama`s Prague Agenda has consisted mostly of shrinking and weakening the US nuclear arsenal , as he did by signing the 2010 New Start Treaty [ The Reset Button ] with Russia and deferring the modernization of aging US nuclear platforms ."

" This gives America`s friends reason to doubt its nuclear umbrella ,while giving adversaries more incentive to grow their arsenals . "
" Mr. Obama has already entered a brave new world of executive overreach by ignoring Congress on immigration and sending the Iran Deal to the UN before submitting it as a " non-treaty " to The US Senate . This would be a new low , undermining America`s nuclear deterrent while showing contempt for congressional bounds . "

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Gee ? I wonder what the unbiased experts at Snopes have to say about this matter "

I`m sure that we will be updated very quickly .

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Most people posting and calling out names on this site would not be able to grasp the very serious message contained in the OP .

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Serious business . Where is the main stream media on this --- silent as usual .

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I don`t like the sound of this . Could it be true ? If so we are in very deep trouble .

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Gee ? I wonder what the unbiased experts at Snopes have to say about this matter "

I`m sure that we will be updated very quickly .Let's hear what you have to say?

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Say what who has to say ?

[Guest]

How big is our nuclear arsenal? How many times can we blow up the entire world? Our nuclear arsenal is never going to go away unless of course Trump gets elected president, and uses it. This is the same fear mongering as about the strength of our military. We are so head and shoulders above the rest of the world that a little reduction isn't going to hurt us at all. If the Republicans were so worried about the strength, they would never have push the sequester to get to a balanced budget.

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How big is our nuclear arsenal? How many times can we blow up the entire world? Our nuclear arsenal is never going to go away unless of course Trump gets elected president, and uses it. This is the same fear mongering as about the strength of our military. We are so head and shoulders above the rest of the world that a little reduction isn't going to hurt us at all. If the Republicans were so worried about the strength, they would never have push the sequester to get to a balanced budget.

It is NOT just about the number of nukes we have it is about the very old technology that drives it . Some of our delivery / launch systems are reliant on floppy discs to launch them .

Many of our bunkers are rusting into poor condition . Sixty -Minutes covered these issues within the past year . In fact there is a particular wrench that is necessary to tighten certain parts on
a particular type of launch vehicle that is in such short supply that the crews have to send it from one to another via Fed-Ex .

[Guest]

How big is our nuclear arsenal? How many times can we blow up the entire world? Our nuclear arsenal is never going to go away unless of course Trump gets elected president, and uses it. This is the same fear mongering as about the strength of our military. We are so head and shoulders above the rest of the world that a little reduction isn't going to hurt us at all. If the Republicans were so worried about the strength, they would never have push the sequester to get to a balanced budget.

OK you win --- you get the " Smartest Man in the Villages " recognition award for the day .

Go away folks don`t bother to read the original post . Nothing to see here sleep well .

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WSJ = News Corp = Rupert Murdoch. There may be a slant there, eh?

[Guest]

WSJ = News Corp = Rupert Murdoch. There may be a slant there, eh?

" The Washington Post " : Jeff Bezos Owner

" The NY Times " : Mexican national Carlos Slim Owner

There just might be a bit of a Left Wing edge to their writings

--- Ehh !

Want to keep playing this game ? I can name a lot more Leftie owned pubs than you can conservative owned pubs .

[Guest]

WSJ = News Corp = Rupert Murdoch. There may be a slant there, eh?

True, but they put on a good show. They just slammed Hannity pretty hard.

[Guest]

" With his time in office winding down, President Obama plans to make a valedictory round of changes to U.S. nuclear weapons policy. The aim is to cement his cherished " Prague Agenda " , named for the Czech city where in 2009 he set out his vision for a nuclear free world . The moves would more likely cement his legacy for arms control illusions that are producing a new era of nuclear proliferation ."

" Mr. Obama`s Prague Agenda has consisted mostly of shrinking and weakening the US nuclear arsenal , as he did by signing the 2010 New Start Treaty [ The Reset Button ] with Russia and deferring the modernization of aging US nuclear platforms ."

" This gives America`s friends reason to doubt its nuclear umbrella ,while giving adversaries more incentive to grow their arsenals . "
" Mr. Obama has already entered a brave new world of executive overreach by ignoring Congress on immigration and sending the Iran Deal to the UN before submitting it as a " non-treaty " to The US Senate . This would be a new low , undermining America`s nuclear deterrent while showing contempt for congressional bounds . "

Yes, I read it and thought to myself that Obama from day one has made every effort domestically, economically militarily and with foreign policy to weaken this nation. One has to be guarded about the reasons but irrespective of Obama's motives he has been on the wrong side of the argument from day one. He seems to be unaware of the manifest consequences of his actions. I suppose he is narcissistic enough to believe his own press about his omnipotence

Now we have Hillary who wants to have the baton passed to her so she can continued down this road to perdition. And as noted on these pages we have the uninformed that applaud their efforts and to deflect further marginalize one of the more honest and informative publications left. It is indeed exasperating at times to have to deal with people whose only response to an article such as this is "oh that old rag" vis a vis commenting on the implications of said policy. One wonders why they participate in political talk when they don't talk but offer bumper sticker phrases and name calling believing that is their argument...and the beat goes on

Personal Best Regards:

Personal Best Regards:

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Yes, I read it and thought to myself that Obama from day one has made every effort domestically, economically militarily and with foreign policy to weaken this nation.

Seriously dude? :ohdear:

While I don't share your politics (obviously :D ), I used to think you were smarter than that. :oops:

U.S. Military Spending Dwarfs Rest of World - NBC News (http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/military-spending-cuts/u-s-military-spending-dwarfs-rest-world-n37461)

http://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2014_09/206761/140224-us-defense-chart-215p_d40ecad0e93608f7224bcfd4d5df8a2f.nbcnews-ux-600-480.jpg


PS. Since you certainly don't really mean it, why don't you just drop the.... "Personal Best Regards?"

At least then, folks wouldn't see what a flaming hypocrite you are. ;)



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CNM

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True, but they put on a good show. They just slammed Hannity pretty hard.
Calling Hannity Fox News' dumbest anchor a slam or a matter of fact? Sean took it pretty hard and called the WSJ editor an a-hole and dumbass. Such intellectual chops.

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We know for sure it will be a good deal for America. Right?

Just look at the Iran nuclear deal....:boom:

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

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Seriously dude? :ohdear:

While I don't share your politics (obviously :D ), I used to think you were smarter than that. :oops:

U.S. Military Spending Dwarfs Rest of World - NBC News (http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/military-spending-cuts/u-s-military-spending-dwarfs-rest-world-n37461)

http://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2014_09/206761/140224-us-defense-chart-215p_d40ecad0e93608f7224bcfd4d5df8a2f.nbcnews-ux-600-480.jpg


PS. Since you certainly don't really mean it, why don't you just drop the.... "Personal Best Regards?"

At least then, folks wouldn't see what a flaming hypocrite you are. ;)



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CNM

Unprovoked name calling by CNM today # 1 .

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Unprovoked name calling by CNM today # 1 .

We all know the traits and responses from the master baiter.
Predictable as the sun coming up in the morning.
School yard mentality.
Total and complete disrespect.

All allowed by and protected by the anonymity of "guest" hiding behind the key board.

Nothing new....ever.

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Seriously dude? :ohdear:

While I don't share your politics (obviously :D ), I used to think you were smarter than that. :oops:

U.S. Military Spending Dwarfs Rest of World - NBC News (http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/military-spending-cuts/u-s-military-spending-dwarfs-rest-world-n37461)

http://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2014_09/206761/140224-us-defense-chart-215p_d40ecad0e93608f7224bcfd4d5df8a2f.nbcnews-ux-600-480.jpg


PS. Since you certainly don't really mean it, why don't you just drop the.... "Personal Best Regards?"

At least then, folks wouldn't see what a flaming hypocrite you are. ;)



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CNM

Dear Guest: Perhaps what you might want to do is to look at the details of the budget you present and its efficacy. A comparison to other nations means little. Department of Defense and intelligence communities have had an ongoing battle with Obama's lack of expertise along these lines and further exacerbated by foreign policy as as the Iran Deal

As to my "Personal Best Regards, you do not know my heart

Personal Best Regards:

[Guest]

" The Washington Post " : Jeff Bezos Owner

" The NY Times " : Mexican national Carlos Slim Owner

There just might be a bit of a Left Wing edge to their writings

--- Ehh !

Want to keep playing this game ? I can name a lot more Leftie owned pubs than you can conservative owned pubs .
In what court do you put the Buffalo News?

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In what court do you put the Buffalo News?

Extremely Liberal . Never have seen them endorse a Republican for office .

As you know the BN is owned by Warren Buffet and has been for well over 25 years .

Odd thing . One of my best friends is now the " Publisher " which is equivalent to President and Chief Executive Officer and Chief Operating Officer. He himself is a very conservative Republican but he stays far away from the Editorial and Journalism aspects and focuses on the business issues of running the paper .

IE --- the editorial side operates on it`s own and is controlled by the paper`s staff of editors not the CEO . Otherwise the reporters would walk out .


There are something like 6 different Unions operating at the Buffalo News and that alone takes a great amount of managerial effort .

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Just more conservative propaganda .

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We all know the traits and responses from the master baiter.
Predictable as the sun coming up in the morning.
School yard mentality.
Total and complete disrespect.

What is it that makes you so blatantly blind and such a liar?

I know you didn't miss my little test, whereby I allowed 15 different posts personally attacking me...without responding in kind.

In other words, I simply give...what I get. ;)

If someone wants to debate with me in a respectful manner, I will (and have) reciprocated.

If you want to try and take personal shots without it being returned tenfold, then you better put your head between your knees or go cry to your mommy...because I don't give a $hit if I hurt your feelings. :D





All allowed by and protected by the anonymity of "guest" hiding behind the key board.
Oh the flaming ignorant hypocrisy!! :1rotfl:

At least I have the guts to let people know who is posting, whereby little chicken$hits like yourself...don't.

I have to say though, that just you saying something that stupid and ignorant makes it abundantly evident...why you refuse to identify yourself even with your stage name.

After all, you may actually have a few people upstairs fooled and you don't want to take the chance that they can see the real you. :ohdear:



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CNM

[Guest]

Dear Guest: Perhaps what you might want to do is to look at the details of the budget you present and its efficacy. A comparison to other nations means little. Department of Defense and intelligence communities have had an ongoing battle with Obama's lack of expertise along these lines and further exacerbated by foreign policy as as the Iran Deal.
Your constant attempts at diversion and throwing out red herrings, instead of addressing the facts, might actually fool some people...but you should have figured out by now it doesn't me. ;)

I simply proved that we spend more on our military than any other 10 nations combined and yet you are so biased that you make a blatantly false statement (shoved back down your throat by the facts BTW :D )....that Obama is trying to weaken our nations military? :oops:

What have you provided, except your obvious intellectually limited 'opinion?'




As to my "Personal Best Regards, you do not know my heart

Personal Best Regards:
THAT is actually the only thing I've seen posted lately from you...that is actually true.

I don't know "what is in your heart."

All I can go by are your posts down here (the ones you identify yourself with that little saying anyway, of which I have no idea whether some of the other idiotic posts in this forum are also yours)...so I'm simply judging based on your own posts.

I have actually found myself nodding in approval on some of your posts in the main forum, but then you try and use your opinion to dispute actual facts down here...and you lose any credibility you've built upstairs.

You gave a mild rebuke to the resident putrid racists down here....then turn around and say that I am the same as those pond scum

That tells me that you are either seriously deranged, or just so biased/prejudiced and intimidated by someone who backs up what they're saying...that you are only pretending upstairs to be someone you're really not.

When you have only called out those scumbag racists once, and the in the very mildest of terms, then said I was just as bad...that told me all I need to know about the real you. :ohdear:

I can guarantee you that if someone who claims to be left leaning were posting such disgusting and purely despicable racist trash...I would be jumping down their throat every time they did it.

That's the big difference between you and me. I have honesty, integrity and ethics...that aren't just on display when I am dealing with someone that has a different political ideology than myself.

A racist, putrid and totally worthless racist human being is just that...regardless of the letter they prefer to put in front of their name.

So keep posting your "Personal Best Regards," but until you prove otherwise on a consistent basis...we both know that it is simply a platitude that you throw out in hopes someone less smart actually believes it.

Sorry Bubba... but that person isn't me. :D


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CNM

[Guest]

All bow to CNM a true Christian and man of great human depth in fact so much so that you don`t even meed to ask him .
He will tell you as soon as he comes into contact with you what a wonderful human being he is to the core .

And a man of humility ? Oh my absolutely yes in fact it is his greatest quality and we are very fortunate that he danes to honor us with his wise counsel and wit .

[Guest]

All bow to CNM a true Christian and man of great human depth in fact so much so that you don`t even meed to ask him .
He will tell you as soon as he comes into contact with you what a wonderful human being he is to the core .

And a man of humility ? Oh my absolutely yes in fact it is his greatest quality and we are very fortunate that he danes to honor us with his wise counsel and wit .

:1rotfl:

Another flaming hypocrite! :oops:

Damn, I may need those galoshes sooner than I thought...given that I'm already knee deep in ignorant hypocrites. :D


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CNM

[Guest]

All bow to CNM a true Christian and man of great human depth in fact so much so that you don`t even meed to ask him .
He will tell you as soon as he comes into contact with you what a wonderful human being he is to the core .

And a man of humility ? Oh my absolutely yes in fact it is his greatest quality and we are very fortunate that he danes to honor us with his wise counsel and wit .I appreciate his posts. It's a breath of fresh air.

What does it mean to be a good Christian? I was taught it meant being Christ like and asking yourself if you are treating someone the way you wanted to be treated.

What were you taught?

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I was taught to challenge bullies and CNM is a bully .

[Guest]

No he is not a bully . He is a first class coward and a first class A$$-hole .

[Guest]

No he is not a bully . He is a first class coward and a first class A$$-hole .

I agree with both, bully and first class coward and first class @sshole. But, that's just my opinion. In real life he/she is probably just an @sshole.

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I was taught to challenge bullies and CNM is a bully .

:1rotfl:

This is an unmoderated forum. :oops:

The real bullies live in the moderated forums, whereby they get away with more personal attacks than anyone else...because of their little 'bully clique.'

And everyone knows of whom I'm speaking. ;)

The fact that they have been shut down of late upstairs, due to a more even-handed approach by the mods...just burns their a$$es. :D

So run along back to your little gang...you can't hide behind them down here.



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CNM

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No he is not a bully . He is a first class coward and a first class A$$-hole .

I agree with both, bully and first class coward and first class @sshole. But, that's just my opinion. In real life he/she is probably just an @sshole.

The real cowards (and Azzholes) are chicken$hit scumbags like yourselves, who don't even have the guts to use your stage name when you attack other people. :oops:

What are you afraid of, that people will know what flaming hypocrites you are?

When I first came into this political forum, it was very easy to see those who were left-leaning.

They were the ones who wrote intelligent posts and weren't always leveling personal attacks toward others who had a difference of opinion.

I tried that at first, but after constant attacks I then decided to screw you chicken$hit bullies and cowards...and started giving you back a little of your own medicine. :pepper2:

Now a whole bunch of you can't stop pouting, whining, crying and stomping your feet about it. :D

When my name gets constantly mentioned in threads I haven't even participated in, THAT is the clue that I'm living rent-free inside your heads. :1rotfl:

So if you want civil discourse from me, I suggest you take a look in the mirror...and start doing it yourself first. :ho:

Starting with the Queen 'B'....and all her little minions. :p


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CNM


PS. Yes, I do fly first class...as I've earned it. :D

[Guest]

Yes, I read it and thought to myself that Obama from day one has made every effort domestically, economically militarily and with foreign policy to weaken this nation. One has to be guarded about the reasons but irrespective of Obama's motives he has been on the wrong side of the argument from day one. He seems to be unaware of the manifest consequences of his actions. I suppose he is narcissistic enough to believe his own press about his omnipotence

Now we have Hillary who wants to have the baton passed to her so she can continued down this road to perdition. And as noted on these pages we have the uninformed that applaud their efforts and to deflect further marginalize one of the more honest and informative publications left. It is indeed exasperating at times to have to deal with people whose only response to an article such as this is "oh that old rag" vis a vis commenting on the implications of said policy. One wonders why they participate in political talk when they don't talk but offer bumper sticker phrases and name calling believing that is their argument...and the beat goes on

Personal Best Regards:

Personal Best Regards:

The sky is falling, the sky is falling. Typical repub fear mongering. You sure love when trump talks about using nuclear weapons. Just remember they can come this way also, problem is most people have never endured war, just in the movies.

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The sky is falling, the sky is falling. Typical repub fear mongering. You sure love when trump talks about using nuclear weapons. Just remember they can come this way also, problem is most people have never endured war, just in the movies.

There hasn't been a REAL war since WWII. These are neighborhood skirmishes with "rules", the next WW will have no rules.

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No he is not a bully . He is a first class coward and a first class A$$-hole .

:boom:

:BigApplause:

Don't forget the bravado is only because of the anonymity of "guest" and undercover of the keyboard.

[Guest]

:boom:

:BigApplause:

Don't forget the bravado is only because of the anonymity of "guest" and undercover of the keyboard.

You mean like what you're doing? :1rotfl:

Or are you too stupid to understand that you just described yourself, much more than me...since I at least use my stage name? ;)



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CNM

[Guest]

No he is not a bully . He is a first class coward and a first class A$$-hole .

I agree with both, bully and first class coward and first class @sshole. But, that's just my opinion. In real life he/she is probably just an @sshole.

Sorry, I just couldn't resist. :1rotfl:... :1rotfl:... :1rotfl:


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CNM

[Guest]

Sorry, I just couldn't resist. :1rotfl:... :1rotfl:... :1rotfl:


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CNM

A little lonely at your house little man ?

[Guest]

You mean like what you're doing? :1rotfl:

Or do you understand that you just described me, much more than me...since I at least use my stage name? ;)



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CNM(ColdNoMore)

OK :blahblahblah:...:blahblahblah:

[Guest]

You mean like what you're doing? :1rotfl:

Or are you too stupid to understand that you just described yourself, much more than me...since I at least use my stage name? ;)



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CNM

Nah....you have the stupid category completely locked up.

Your dialogue reminds me of watching a tennis match. Nothing new to offer just batting back what comes to you.

We do fully get and understand the type!!

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Sorry, I just couldn't resist. :1rotfl:... :1rotfl:... :1rotfl:


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CNM

Ok, I agree with you. You ARE a hemorrhoid. So, since you are an @sshole and a hemorrhoid, you must be pretty irritable.

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Nah....you have the stupid category completely locked up.

Your dialogue reminds me of watching a tennis match. Nothing new to offer just batting back what comes to you.

We do fully get and understand the type!!

You're dealing with a woman...just ignore her like I do. I could write a book destroying her opinions about just about everything. But I won't waste my time. You're dealing with a female brain, it has no concept of deductive logic. If it "feels right", it must be right. It works for women, there's always some man willing to take care of them.

[Guest]

You are spot on. The Minuteman III systems are long in the tooth. The Trident D5 systems on the Ohio-class missile boats are much younger but the boats are getting old. The actual warheads need to be redesigned eventually also as they are getting long in the tooth. All of these systems have a finite life span.

It is NOT just about the number of nukes we have it is about the very old technology that drives it . Some of our delivery / launch systems are reliant on floppy discs to launch them .

Many of our bunkers are rusting into poor condition . Sixty -Minutes covered these issues within the past year . In fact there is a particular wrench that is necessary to tighten certain parts on
a particular type of launch vehicle that is in such short supply that the crews have to send it from one to another via Fed-Ex .