Talked with a construction worker

[jwainsco]

Was visiting a friend over near cr 466 and rolling acres road. I noticed they were constructing a path on the south side of 466. I spoke with one of the workers he confirmed it was a golf cart path but was unsure of how they were going to connect it.

I am betting that they'll take all the way down to Morse. That will be nice for both myself, friend, and the environment since everything on that side will be golf cart accessible. I am still wondering what kind of business's they are gonna put in across from those apartments that were built last summer. Its amazing how the villages are building nearly 300 houses a month in this economy. But as many say Villagers have "old money".

[billethkid]

all there are 90+% still gainfully employed.....93% are still paying their mortgage every month....retirees have a finite resource....a somewhat finite horizon of life expectancy.

There are more businesses other than just TV doing well, there is just no reason for the media or politicians to make anybody aware of the good things...eh?
Not in their best fear mongering interest.

The Villages monthly build and close rate so far for 2009 is up over 2008 rates.
Their resales have seen a significant increase in sales in 2009.

Yup things are slow in TV....or I meant slower....still doing very well but not at the gang busters rate of a couple of years ago.

Of course nothing of interest to the media in this kind of story.

Housing values decline 17%....big deal. That only means they have assumed a normal level VS the go-go bubble. How many have the 17% decline but are still worth more than what they paid? Now why woulod anybody want to know that? A reality politicians and the media certainly do not want to address.

Dontya know you are being managed? manipulated? frightened?

Anyway.....those of us in the majority are enjoying life as per normal...aren't you?

BTK

[jwainsco]

obviously the media has their own interests. I'm lucky, I have lost no money in stocks have budgeted well over the years. Not saying our economy going downhill is a good thing but at least Im paying less for certain items.


But what about all of this construction has anyone else get a better scoop?

[RCT]

obviously the media has their own interests. I'm lucky, I have lost no money in stocks have budgeted well over the years. Not saying our economy going downhill is a good thing but at least Im paying less for certain items.


But what about all of this construction has anyone else get a better scoop?

Anyone who says they have lost no money in stocks, either wasn't involved in them at all, or has a last name of Madoff.

[Boomer]

obviously the media has their own interests. I'm lucky, I have lost no money in stocks have budgeted well over the years. Not saying our economy going downhill is a good thing but at least Im paying less for certain items.


But what about all of this construction has anyone else get a better scoop?

My assumption is that if you are saying you have lost no money in stocks, you must be saying either that you own no stocks or that you have sold no stocks.

Boomer Buyanhold

[jwainsco]

exactly i never have owned enough stocks to where my lively hood was based upon them.

Anyone have any further info on that new construction on 466?

[Cassie325]

Was visiting a friend over near cr 466 and rolling acres road. I noticed they were constructing a path on the south side of 466. I spoke with one of the workers he confirmed it was a golf cart path but was unsure of how they were going to connect it.

I am betting that they'll take all the way down to Morse. .

Does this mean that Recreation Plantation will have legal golf cart accesiblilty?

[Muncle]

Does this mean that Recreation Plantation will have legal golf cart accesiblilty?

If the cart path story is true, then it dead-ends at Rolling Road. Unless someone puts a bridge or tunnel in ---- very doubtful ---- you couldn't cross 466 and probably not Rolling Rd. In fact, I kinda wonder about the legality of crossing CR-100.

All in all, I question the validity of this rumor. I especially cannot see TV funding or even supporting it. There is conflict between TV and Lady Lake re non-TVers having golf cart access to the campus, highlighted at the Rolling Road crossing close to 27/441. But regardless of Lady Lake's desires, there are still state laws about golf carts being on or crossing highways.






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[GMONEY]

It will be interesting to see how this cart path works out. Unless they build one from Cherry Lake Rd (CR-100) to The Villages then no way for carts to get in. Seems there would be the issue of minors flying down that path thus a legal matter for insurance and if someone gets hurts. I know the kids in Parkwood were using the sidewalk to drive carts from Parkwood into Bison Valley then use the golf cart access to The Villages. But I think SCSO is watching that. Cant drive on the sidewalk.

[musicman]

Cant drive on the sidewalk.

Hasn't stopped many a Villager. I see carts on sidewalks every day and on roads that they aren't allowed on at least once a week. And it is rarely a minor.

[Bryan]

It will be very interesting to see how this golf cart path thingy works out.

I remember when Freedom Pointe was first proposed, and they were advertising that residents had full TV amenities, what a hoo-haa that raised. As it turns out, residents of Freedom Pointe will have full access (including golf cart) to all TV facilities - they were "sold" to them. And they are "officially" not a part of TV!

The next big concern was "If they can sell access to our amenities to Freedom Pointe, who else can they sell it to?" When will they announce that all residents of Parkwood can have access to all TV facilities? How about Recreation Plantation? Bend over and hold on tight to the south side of your north bound mule because you know it's coming - sooner or later.

As far as Rolling Acres Road being a "stop" for the golf cart path going south (or is that east?), that is true today. At 27/441, TV access via golf cart south of Target/Circuit City/etc (I forget the name of the shopping center) is blocked by Rolling Acres Road. The Lady Lake Police to patrol and ticket golf carts that cross Rolling Acres Road on a fairly regular basis.

This is not the "know all - end all" though. Exceptions can be applied for and made. Already golf cart exceptions are in place within TV that allow golf carts to cross roads similar to Rolling Acres Road. For example, crossing El Camino Real at the traffic light at Botello (Village of Alhambra)/Enrique (Village of Santiago) is allowed. As far as I know there are no approved "exceptions" for golf carts to cross 27/441 (yet!).

It is interesting that all the "approved exceptions" that I know of are at places where you can cross a busy street (such as El Camino Real) from one developer developed property to another developer developed property. However I know of no approved exceptions where you go from a developer developed property (i.e. TV) to a non-developer developed property such as to the Home Depot/Sams complex or the complex where the Longhorn Steak House/Bed, Bath & Beyond is located.

Someone has some political pull to get those exceptions they want approved and those they don't want disapproved! But that probably will not last forever.:cus:

[billethkid]

Bridgeport at Lake Miona Shores they had to get the speed limit reduced to 35 mph which they did. Put up the appropriate signage and road striping...to be able to cross 472 to get into Ashland to access the cart path system.

If it is to the developer of TV advantage (which ultimately is to the benefit of residents....most of the time!!!) it will be done.?!

BTK

[bargee]

I posed this question before but I will ask it again.What happens if I am hit by a 14 year old driving an uninsured golf cart(and I'm sure there are many of those around)on a public roadway?Do I go after the state,the county or the developer whose rules allowed them to operate the cart?This may sound far fetched but as our community grows and we have to provide access to all it is a possibility.

[chuckster]

The owner of the cart that allowed the 14 year old to operate the cart and/or the 14 year olds parents.

[GMONEY]

Yep that is what I would think. The parents of the 14 yr old are still reponsible just like driving a car. Underage.. I cant believe that The Villages have anything to do with that cart path.

[collie1228]

If the kid's parents have any property, you might collect something after a long, expensive and risky lawsuit process. My sister lives in Poinciana near Kissimmee, and in December her vehicle was struck and flipped over by a speeding 17 year old, no license, no insurance, and the car belonged to a friend of his, also not insured. She got squat out of the deal. Not only that, but when the insurance company totaled her car, she got a notice from her bank that she needed to pay the loan balance within ten days. She wasn't even reimbursed for the $500 she spent on a rental car. The kid and car owner never even got a ticket. Bottom line is, don't be involved in any kind of traffic accident in Florida. In NY, both the kid and the car owner would have been in court explaining themselves . . . and might even have spent a night or two in jail . . . but apparently not in Florida.

[SteveFromNY]

I posed this question before but I will ask it again.What happens if I am hit by a 14 year old driving an uninsured golf cart(and I'm sure there are many of those around)on a public roadway?Do I go after the state,the county or the developer whose rules allowed them to operate the cart?This may sound far fetched but as our community grows and we have to provide access to all it is a possibility.

Bargee, I'm guessing your legal counsel would advise you to sue everyone, the owner, the developer, the town, the state, the county.
Having had a little experience up north with a "slip and fall" on my property there, the person who fell sued me and the city. I was amazed at the process. Ultimately, it was a frivolous claim, but the city actually settled with them for a few thousand dollars. My insurance company fought. Went to a civil trial by jury, and they found for me, so the person who fell got (deservedly) nothing from me.

I think your counsel would advise casting as wide a net as possible to maximize your chances of getting any compensation.

[MMC24]

Anyone who says they have lost no money in stocks, either wasn't involved in them at all, or has a last name of Madoff.

I moved all SEPP mutual fund stocks to bonds and the money market 2.5 years ago with the instance of our financial planner just before we moved here from CT. I fought him tooth and nail but finally relented. :bowdown: Wow, I am happy now!!! So technically, I haven't lost any money from stocks. The bond fund has remained stable. I have drawn some funds from the money market for capital improvements to our home. On the other hand, my wife's 401K is now a 201K. We don't think it will come back in our lifetime.

[RCT]

I moved all SEPP mutual fund stocks to bonds and the money market 2.5 years ago with the instance of our financial planner just before we moved here from CT. I fought him tooth and nail but finally relented. :bowdown: Wow, I am happy now!!! So technically, I haven't lost any money from stocks. The bond fund has remained stable. I have drawn some funds from the money market for capital improvements to our home. On the other hand, my wife's 401K is now a 201K. We don't think it will come back in our lifetime.
So, for the years before that, you never lost any money on stocks, either? Seems unrealistic to me. You mean you were only involved for a little bit before this 2.5 year ago movement of them? If this is so, congratulations. I myself, have lost, but am still a good deal ahead of where I was ten years ago. Ups and downs are just something one has to deal with in this game. And, don't know how old you all are, but I do think these 401k's will be back to where they were, in 5 years or so.

[Taj44]

I made about 14% a year a couple years ago on my combined stock/bond holdings. If I had not been in stocks, obviously the return would have been much much less. I sold a bunch of mutual funds last year, but did hang on to some. If the market comes back, so will the funds.

[jwainsco]

just drove by and they have already laid pavement for the path. But still no indication of where its going to connect to other paths. It actually seems like a dangerous path with all the telephone poles and what not. The way people drive down here could pose some problems.

[Ooper]

With no access points and the telephone poles and a lack of house in that area, don't you think it is just a sidewalk... Just reasoning it out!

[jwainsco]

Have you driven by it lately? Its as wide as some of the newer paths and it would make sense to make one there. That whole side past Morse will eventually become a place for businesses. T

hey have already built a medical plaza and commercial business suites across from those new apartments. Also their is the VFW and that driving range on rolling acres rd. with a golf course not too far away. Plus one of the guys working on the path told me it was a golf car path. But you can take that for whatever its worth. The guy could of been a crackhead carrying a shovel.

[Cassie325]

Hey gang...I drive this road daily on the way home. This is either a very, very wide side walk or a golf cart path.

There are MANY new commercial build outs on 466 and family housing complexes....however not Villages housing. I understand that a new plant nursery will be going in there as well....they posted something on here...perhaps they know the details!

I am anxious to see what happens with it! Very interesting!!

[GMONEY]

THey are suppose to be building the The Lady Lake Assisted Living right across from Srping Arbor. That still dont answer why a cart path. Cant see The Villages letting them connect somehow. They would have to put in a cart path from Cherry Lake Road CR-100 down to Morse some how. See what happens

[billethkid]

to enlighten us.
Maybe TV bought a golf cart franchise!

BTK

[Ooper]

I may be wrong, but looking at the Lake County GIS map, it doesn't appear that The Villages even owns that property. If not, why would they put in a cart path? If it is a cart path, I don't think The Villages is building it. But... we'll find out eventually.

[Vichyssoise]

I hear is a special lane for Smart Cars. There must be at least a dozen of them in TV

[musicman]

If it's a cart path, it sure wasn't well planned. It's really crooked and there are those poles... Very odd.

[The Great Fumar]

musicman
If my wife is driving it won't make any difference.......

The late Fumar

[MnGirl]

I'm the one that is opening the nursery on CR466, and I was told it is an 11 foot cart path. Why it's there I don't have a clue, because it only gives access to the apartments to nowhere. It is NOT Village property.