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Bjeanj
08-08-2016, 11:35 AM
Gracie started this on another thread. Have lived here over a year, and every time we see rain headed our way, it either disappears or "splits" and misses us entirely! I don't get it!

In Indiana, when we saw clouds heading over from Illinois following I-70, yep: we got rain.

Is there a secret Villages rain dance we must learn?

villagetinker
08-08-2016, 11:41 AM
We need to have them 'open the dome' so the rain can get in....:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
but on a more serious note, I have noticed the same thing of the last month. Been here almost 3 years and did not notice it before.
Just yesterday, there was a huge storm over the gulf, and it looked like it stopped at Wildwood.

NotGolfer
08-08-2016, 12:16 PM
We can't gauge the weather as we did up north in the midwestern states. Ours here, is caused by the sea breezes coming off from both coasts. Yes, it can be spotty with rain monsoons in one area and sun in another at that exact time. If you watch the weather on t.v.---it seems that south and north of here get A LOT of it while we're missed. Marion Cnty for some reason always seems to get the rain. Maybe we should ALL wash our cars and leave them out IF we need moisture in our area(s).

golfing eagles
08-08-2016, 12:21 PM
We can't gauge the weather as we did up north in the midwestern states. Ours here, is caused by the sea breezes coming off from both coasts. Yes, it can be spotty with rain monsoons in one area and sun in another at that exact time. If you watch the weather on t.v.---it seems that south and north of here get A LOT of it while we're missed. Marion Cnty for some reason always seems to get the rain. Maybe we should ALL wash our cars and leave them out IF we need moisture in our area(s).

Agree. Up north, the main driver of weather was the cold and warm fronts and storm systems that moved in from the Pacific and worked their way across the country driven by the jet stream. Tropical/sub-tropical patterns are very different

DonH57
08-08-2016, 12:42 PM
That is the weather pattern here, unpredictable!

villagetinker
08-08-2016, 01:11 PM
I can only guarantee rain if I leave the top down on the convertible, several neighbors have requested I do so.....

Bjeanj
08-08-2016, 01:54 PM
That would certainly be the thoughtful thing to do!

dewilson58
08-08-2016, 02:06 PM
Whatever is South of you, it ain't coming.

Whatever is North of you, it ain't coming.

Whatever is East of you, it ain't coming.

Whatever is West of you, it might come.

:ho:

John_W
08-08-2016, 02:27 PM
I use this website Intellicast Radar (http://www.intellicast.com/Local/WxMap.aspx?location=USFL0372), I find it's easier to use and navigate with better images than weather.com. What I've noticed over the last five years is the weather will move in from the west coast and split or diverge in the direction of either Ocala or Leesburg. What makes this strange is I-75 and The Florida Turnpike both join together just west of here and seem to act as the buffer.

One of the main reasons for winds aloft and wind currents is the uneven heating of the earth's surface. That's why they're is so much turbulence near the coast where water surface and earth meet creating thunderstorms. I think the same is true for the two major highways which account for a lot of hot air. Since hot air rises I believe they sort of create a wall of wind currents that direct the storms in these other directions and protects The Villages.

Bjeanj
08-08-2016, 03:19 PM
I've been using the Storm app; maybe I'll change it to Intellicast Radar. I guess protection from storms is good, although it would be nice to know if I should put the sides down on my cart.

tuccillo
08-08-2016, 03:45 PM
There is much more temporal and spacial variance to rainfall in the warm season than the cool season. Over a period of several months you will find that it all averages out over an area the size of The Villages. Of course, accurate measurements are always an issue. In other words, there may be some preferential forcing but it would be hard to actually detect the signal. What "seems" to happen and what "actually" happens are often different. You can construct all sorts of theories about how "this" causes "that" but in reality few are actually meteorologically sound and even less are likely significant. The rainfall varies and a lot of it is driven by the collision of the sea breezes from the east and west coasts. The atmosphere has non-linear, chaotic forcing and what causes what is difficult to determine during the warm season. The atmosphere strives to eliminate gradients. During the warm season these are primarily vertical gradients of temperature and moisture. During the cold season these are primarily horizontal gradients of temperature and they have much greater spacial dimensions and are therefore more predictable.


Gracie started this on another thread. Have lived here over a year, and every time we see rain headed our way, it either disappears or "splits" and misses us entirely! I don't get it!

In Indiana, when we saw clouds heading over from Illinois following I-70, yep: we got rain.

Is there a secret Villages rain dance we must learn?

Shimpy
08-08-2016, 04:14 PM
Since hot air rises I believe they sort of create a wall of wind currents that direct the storms in these other directions and protects The Villages.

I think I may be partially to blame. I've been BBQ'ing every day lately.

Bjeanj
08-08-2016, 05:05 PM
I think I may be partially to blame. I've been BBQ'ing every day lately.

:BigApplause::BigApplause::BigApplause:

kcrazorbackfan
08-08-2016, 08:36 PM
.....or is it a conspiracy to where those of us that want green lawns and lush landscaping have to water more..... ;-)

sallybowron
08-09-2016, 02:16 AM
i can only guarantee rain if i leave the top down on the convertible, several neighbors have requested i do so.....

take one for the team

sallybowron
08-09-2016, 02:20 AM
I use this website Intellicast Radar (http://www.intellicast.com/Local/WxMap.aspx?location=USFL0372), I find it's easier to use and navigate with better images than weather.com. What I've noticed over the last five years is the weather will move in from the west coast and split or diverge in the direction of either Ocala or Leesburg. What makes this strange is I-75 and The Florida Turnpike both join together just west of here and seem to act as the buffer.

One of the main reasons for winds aloft and wind currents is the uneven heating of the earth's surface. That's why they're is so much turbulence near the coast where water surface and earth meet creating thunderstorms. I think the same is true for the two major highways which account for a lot of hot air. Since hot air rises I believe they sort of create a wall of wind currents that direct the storms in these other directions and protects The Villages.

I believe that it is so D%*#^ hot here, it evaportes before it gets to the surface. We don't understand why it could have poured down At St James Gate and come around the corner to Buttonwood and it is bone dry.

rubicon
08-09-2016, 05:25 AM
There is much more temporal and spacial variance to rainfall in the warm season than the cool season. Over a period of several months you will find that it all averages out over an area the size of The Villages. Of course, accurate measurements are always an issue. In other words, there may be some preferential forcing but it would be hard to actually detect the signal. What "seems" to happen and what "actually" happens are often different. You can construct all sorts of theories about how "this" causes "that" but in reality few are actually meteorologically sound and even less are likely significant. The rainfall varies and a lot of it is driven by the collision of the sea breezes from the east and west coasts. The atmosphere has non-linear, chaotic forcing and what causes what is difficult to determine during the warm season. The atmosphere strives to eliminate gradients. During the warm season these are primarily vertical gradients of temperature and moisture. During the cold season these are primarily horizontal gradients of temperature and they have much greater spacial dimensions and are therefore more predictable.

tuccillo: that's impressive

You know the shorter version is that God is doing his very best given the tremendous amount of requests he gets. This is especially so with those folks from California :024:

2BNTV
08-09-2016, 05:38 AM
I have found every year is different.
1. One year it rained every day in the summer months,
2. One year it stayed hot during the winter months. Remember it being in the 90's at Xmas.
3. This year, very hot in the summer with very little rain. I've noticed the sky looks threatening a lot but doesn't rain much.

As a friend of mine use to say, "if you don't like the weather, wait four hours and it will change". :D

Totally unpredictable. IMHO

Shimpy
08-09-2016, 03:04 PM
We don't understand why it could have poured down At St James Gate and come around the corner to Buttonwood and it is bone dry.
It's got to stop somewhere.

outlaw
08-09-2016, 03:32 PM
I use this website Intellicast Radar (http://www.intellicast.com/Local/WxMap.aspx?location=USFL0372), I find it's easier to use and navigate with better images than weather.com. What I've noticed over the last five years is the weather will move in from the west coast and split or diverge in the direction of either Ocala or Leesburg. What makes this strange is I-75 and The Florida Turnpike both join together just west of here and seem to act as the buffer.

One of the main reasons for winds aloft and wind currents is the uneven heating of the earth's surface. That's why they're is so much turbulence near the coast where water surface and earth meet creating thunderstorms. I think the same is true for the two major highways which account for a lot of hot air. Since hot air rises I believe they sort of create a wall of wind currents that direct the storms in these other directions and protects The Villages.
Then why does it ever rain over a big city that is nothing more than a big concrete jungle?

bbbbbb
08-10-2016, 09:56 AM
Gracie started this on another thread. Have lived here over a year, and every time we see rain headed our way, it either disappears or "splits" and misses us entirely! I don't get it!

In Indiana, when we saw clouds heading over from Illinois following I-70, yep: we got rain.

Is there a secret Villages rain dance we must learn?
This may help, seriously.
1. This is not Indiana
2. All weather maps are generated with a mathematics model, well you may want to visit this guessing game to see the wizardly methods.
3. Most all weather work is done by an agency as part of the US Government, this should tell you something.
4. If you want to know about the weather, just take a look outside your window, door or patio.
bbbbbb :pepper2:

RickeyD
08-10-2016, 10:49 AM
It's got to stop somewhere.



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graciegirl
08-10-2016, 11:42 AM
I think it is a conspiracy. The National Weather Service needs to be investigated.

Bjeanj
08-10-2016, 01:05 PM
I think it is a conspiracy. The National Weather Service needs to be investigated.


:icon_wink:

TomOB
08-10-2016, 01:12 PM
The Family doesn't allow rain here.

Bjeanj
08-11-2016, 06:33 PM
Hey! It's raining! I figured out that when the rain clouds are directly overhead, it will rain.

Hah!


:2excited::pepper2:

Inexes@aol.com
08-12-2016, 04:23 PM
The Family doesn't allow rain here.

You stole my thunder. I was just going to say, 24 posts and not one person has blamed the weather on the Morse family.