Did anyone watch the TRump's Detroit Speech

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It just ended.

He used teleprompters and hardly went off script.
When heckled, many times, he didn't make faces or lose composure. He just waited it out. Except for a comment about Sander's protestors.
I don't recall him using the term crooked Hillery or placing an empathizes on her being a liar. He dropped the name calling quite a bit.
He talked about her record in New York. And the difference in their economic policy.

It looked like a very different Trump, at least to me.

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Now enter CNM ---- drum roll in his head please ................

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It's on youtube already.
v=fzuJsUllDug

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I like him better when he calls her crooked Hillary. He's only telling it like it is. He must be tired. Hope he didn't short circuit. Oh, that's right Hillary is the one that has the brain short circuit.

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More tax cuts for him and the kids. More trickle down economics.

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Now enter CNM ---- drum roll in his head please ................
CNM is in your head. This must be playing out to you like The Tell-Tale Heart. [emoji6]

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More tax cuts for him and the kids. More trickle down economics.

Sounds like it with an even bigger military which we do NOT need. We do need repairs to bridges, railroads, roads, etc.

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I don't care if your for or against him

It was a good speech.

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He is worth a chance. We know what we are getting with her, a corrupt politician !

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I don't care if your for or against him

It was a good speech.
I also don't care if you are for or against him.
My hunch is you were the only other person so far to watch it.

He was so different, I wonder who did the coaching. It was out of character. People say that he is always himself. That's the real Donald but that's not what you saw today, was it?

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He is worth a chance. We know what we are getting with her, a corrupt politician !

:BigApplause:

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They upped his meds so he would appear to act like a normal person.

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BS

that is how he speaks when he gets down to biz.

Do you think he spoke any other way in his biz dealing to get rich?

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They upped his meds so he would appear to act like a normal person.

You exposed yourself as a typical Hillary sucker!

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So even when he sounds presidential people complain.

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Forget his new found manner, talk about the policies he spoke about. They have failed numerous times in the past. Why will it work now? What did the last tax cut, and the unfunded wars do? It doubled the national debt. His proposals for tax cuts are going to the upper classes. He is talking about deregulating Wall Street. They worked great for us, didn't it? Trickle down economics will just go away in the minds of rich Republicans. They are all for themselves.

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you're right the last 8 years were great

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I don't care if your for or against him

It was a good speech.

You didn't learn from history, trickle down does not work. trump giving a speech reading is like watching the grass grow.

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Forget his new found manner, talk about the policies he spoke about. They have failed numerous times in the past. Why will it work now? What did the last tax cut, and the unfunded wars do? It doubled the national debt. His proposals for tax cuts are going to the upper classes. He is talking about deregulating Wall Street. They worked great for us, didn't it? Trickle down economics will just go away in the minds of rich Republicans. They are all for themselves.

It won't effect you unless you are one of the entitled. What difference does it make if someone else gets to keep more of the money they earned? Do you wish to pay more taxes? No one does, so why do you think the wealthy should pay more than anyone else? People like you are a spoiled jerks. Everyone/EVERYONE should pay the same percentage, if we are going to pay ANY income tax at all. Personally, I do not think someone should be taxed on their work. Tax them on goods and services, like the "Fair Tax" commonly known as a Federal Sales tax.

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The content of the speech was the same old hash. It was a canned speech and he just read off a teleprompter. Trump did not mean any of it.

Hillary is ahead nationally by 12 percent! Hillary is winning in all the swing states! Hillary has taken Red states back into Blue! Trump LOSES big time!

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The content of the speech was the same old hash. It was a canned speech and he just read off a teleprompter. Trump did not mean any of it.

Hillary is ahead nationally by 12 percent! Hillary is winning in all the swing states! Hillary has taken Red states back into Blue! Trump LOSES big time!

Hmmm, makes one wonder why Hillary's little rallies are so small, a hundred or so I believe. And Trump's always has thousands that show up. Of course, Trump may say some outrageous things, but he doesn't do things that gets people killed and then lies about it. He doesn't steal from the government and made to pay back thousands with only a pat on the hand. And Trump doesn't have to worry about Stein or Johnson stealing voters and votes from him. And Trump has increased Republican turnout by over 50% to Hillary losing 20% of Democrat voters. Not to mention how many Bernit voters she can't count on.

So, learn the mantra "Make America Great Again" and say it over and over again, because you are going to be hearing it for a while. At least 4 years.

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Hmmm, makes one wonder why Hillary's little rallies are so small, a hundred or so I believe. And Trump's always has thousands that show up. Of course, Trump may say some outrageous things, but he doesn't do things that gets people killed and then lies about it. He doesn't steal from the government and made to pay back thousands with only a pat on the hand. And Trump doesn't have to worry about Stein or Johnson stealing voters and votes from him. And Trump has increased Republican turnout by over 50% to Hillary losing 20% of Democrat voters. Not to mention how many Bernit voters she can't count on.

So, learn the mantra "Make America Great Again" and say it over and over again, because you are going to be hearing it for a while. At least 4 years.
Isn't it now "America First?"

When was the last time the slogan was "America First?"

Wasn't it 1940 and 41?"

Tell me about those years. You seem to be a student of history and well versed in politics.

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Isn't it now "America First?"

When was the last time the slogan was "America First?"

Wasn't it 1940 and 41?"

Tell me about those years. You seem to be a student of history and well versed in politics.

Google is your friend. It's real simple. Made especially for people like you. I'm not your daddy. Do it yourself.

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Sounds like it with an even bigger military which we do NOT need. We do need repairs to bridges, railroads, roads, etc.


There would be plenty of money for roads/bridges if taxes specifically taxed for that wasn't wasted, mismanaged, or stolen by collectors or fed gov.

WW right around the corner with the failed Arab Spring by this zero In charge. USA will need stronger military when the terrorist rain they're terror on us do to open boarder policy of this administration. He will be out of office just like Clinton when we will be attacked again. Just like Clinton he will be directly the cause of it because of years of doing nothing but, pass it on just like the deficit. Same with health care, it will really get expense after he's out of office and the care only going to get worse .

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Carter is very grateful that Obama came along .

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He is worth a chance. We know what we are getting with her, a corrupt politician !

The parties are corrupt, that's what needs to go. No Ds or Rs...

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Hmmm, makes one wonder why Hillary's little rallies are so small, a hundred or so I believe. And Trump's always has thousands that show up. Of course, Trump may say some outrageous things, but he doesn't do things that gets people killed and then lies about it. He doesn't steal from the government and made to pay back thousands with only a pat on the hand. And Trump doesn't have to worry about Stein or Johnson stealing voters and votes from him. And Trump has increased Republican turnout by over 50% to Hillary losing 20% of Democrat voters. Not to mention how many Bernit voters she can't count on.

So, learn the mantra "Make America Great Again" and say it over and over again, because you are going to be hearing it for a while. At least 4 years.

Dream on little man.

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So even when he sounds presidential people complain.

Thats presidential, he sounded like the buffoon that he is. He read exactly the words his handlers wrote for him. Your now getting the trump his handlers want, not the trump you misguided people went gaga over.

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It won't effect you unless you are one of the entitled. What difference does it make if someone else gets to keep more of the money they earned? Do you wish to pay more taxes? No one does, so why do you think the wealthy should pay more than anyone else? People like you are a spoiled jerks. Everyone/EVERYONE should pay the same percentage, if we are going to pay ANY income tax at all. Personally, I do not think someone should be taxed on their work. Tax them on goods and services, like the "Fair Tax" commonly known as a Federal Sales tax.

You literally have to the stupidest person on this board. Only a moron would think a flat tax is the way to go. You are that moron.

You want the same rate for everybody. Fine everybody starts the same, 100% inheritance tax, and free college tuition for everyone for starters. Take away the head starts for people of wealth. Do you think for a second they would want to start out, where 99% of the people in this country do, with the sole benefit as paying the same tax rate as everyone? If you do, seek help.

No person with a brain in their would push for a flat tax. The presidential candidates that did were shown the door in one big hurry. The reason being it would bring this country.

Are going to sit there in a world of your own, and say everyone starts out the same financially? Funny my father didn't die and leave me 300 million dollars.

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You literally have to the stupidest person on this board. Only a moron would think a flat tax is the way to go. You are that moron.

You want the same rate for everybody. Fine everybody starts the same, 100% inheritance tax, and free college tuition for everyone for starters. Take away the head starts for people of wealth. Do you think for a second they would want to start out, where 99% of the people in this country do, with the sole benefit as paying the same tax rate as everyone? If you do, seek help.

No person with a brain in their would push for a flat tax. The presidential candidates that did were shown the door in one big hurry. The reason being it would bring this country.

Are going to sit there in a world of your own, and say everyone starts out the same financially? Funny my father didn't die and leave me 300 million dollars.

You have been spoon fed a bunch of sugar coated manure. You don't even know what you are talking about. You are just another entitled liberal that believes that anyone that is better than you has to be evil. If you are not motivated enough to earn some honest money, then that's your problem. What are you, a union member? A gov worker? It doesn't matter. If I want to leave my home for my kids, I paid for it. It's not yours. It's not the gov's. You are a pathetic crybaby that thinks that the rich should pay your way.
I don't even like the flat tax, but think it is more fair than a progressive tax. To me a progressive tax is discriminatory. Penalizing a group of people is discrimination. Penalizing the earners is discrimination. and making one group pay a higher rate of taxes than another group fits that category. I believe that the fairest tax system is doing away with income tax and adding a federal sales tax. That is fair. Some states already do that on a smaller scale and make it work.
Everyone should pay something so they all have some investment in our country.

I do NOT like death tax. Why should someone have to give up the family farm because they do not have liquid assets to pay what the gov feels they should pay for their family farm? Why should I not be able to give my kids, my home when I am gone? Why should the gov get it? What did the gov do to earn my home? Perhaps we should just call it what it is, communism. The gov would technically own your home and your business and take it back if you die. Why should I take care of it, if I know my kids won't get it?

Why am I discussing this with you anyway? You are one of the needy ones, or a libtard bleeding heart.

Trump wants successful people to advise him on the economy
Hillary, like Obama wants to hire professors to advise her. Professors/teachers usually can't do the job so they teach it. They are not successful so they teach. That's why we have had 8 years of less than 3% GDP growth, a stagnant economy. This is the ONLY administration that has not had a 3% GDP growth in history. And Hillary wants to continue with this stagnant economy; with Obama's failed policies.

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You literally have to the stupidest person on this board. Only a moron would think a flat tax is the way to go. You are that moron.

You want the same rate for everybody. Fine everybody starts the same, 100% inheritance tax, and free college tuition for everyone for starters. Take away the head starts for people of wealth. Do you think for a second they would want to start out, where 99% of the people in this country do, with the sole benefit as paying the same tax rate as everyone? If you do, seek help.

No person with a brain in their would push for a flat tax. The presidential candidates that did were shown the door in one big hurry. The reason being it would bring this country.

Are going to sit there in a world of your own, and say everyone starts out the same financially? Funny my father didn't die and leave me 300 million dollars.

You are obviously a candidate for anger management therapy. Do you get punched a lot, or are you only brave on your computer? Not my business. What a pathetic loser!

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How many people here watched the speech?

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You have been spoon fed a bunch of sugar coated manure. You don't even know what you are talking about. You are just another entitled liberal that believes that anyone that is better than you has to be evil. If you are not motivated enough to earn some honest money, then that's your problem. What are you, a union member? A gov worker? It doesn't matter. If I want to leave my home for my kids, I paid for it. It's not yours. It's not the gov's. You are a pathetic crybaby that thinks that the rich should pay your way.
I don't even like the flat tax, but think it is more fair than a progressive tax. To me a progressive tax is discriminatory. Penalizing a group of people is discrimination. Penalizing the earners is discrimination. and making one group pay a higher rate of taxes than another group fits that category. I believe that the fairest tax system is doing away with income tax and adding a federal sales tax. That is fair. Some states already do that on a smaller scale and make it work.
Everyone should pay something so they all have some investment in our country.

I do NOT like death tax. Why should someone have to give up the family farm because they do not have liquid assets to pay what the gov feels they should pay for their family farm? Why should I not be able to give my kids, my home when I am gone? Why should the gov get it? What did the gov do to earn my home? Perhaps we should just call it what it is, communism. The gov would technically own your home and your business and take it back if you die. Why should I take care of it, if I know my kids won't get it?

Why am I discussing this with you anyway? You are one of the needy ones, or a libtard bleeding heart.

Trump wants successful people to advise him on the economy
Hillary, like Obama wants to hire professors to advise her. Professors/teachers usually can't do the job so they teach it. They are not successful so they teach. That's why we have had 8 years of less than 3% GDP growth, a stagnant economy. This is the ONLY administration that has not had a 3% GDP growth in history. And Hillary wants to continue with this stagnant economy; with Obama's failed policies.

Apparently, you aren't the person that wrote the initial post. I think that you are the person that always uses the word libtard. When someone responses to you with facts, you always disappear. However, you are follow the same stupid path that he did. You are just another far right wing Republican that always has to tag everyone that doesn't agree with you as a liberal with their hands always out. In other words, you don't know anything about me.

I worked in management all my life. The only thing that I have received from the government is social security, and Medicare. My last year of college, I was supporting my wife, and a baby. I had 20 hours days between work, and college. We qualified for the WIC program. You try existing on 4 hours of sleep a night with a new baby in the house.

There is nothing wrong with the current tax rate system. The reason that I brought up the estate tax was that he said all things should be equal. I don't believe for one second that you shouldn't be able to pass your estate to your children. even with the graduated rates, the tax system as is benefits the rich, and powerful. The money that they are paying is coming from their disposal income, which they have a hard time spending now. You are talking about increasing taxes on at least 47% of the people in the U. S, most of which couldn't afford a tax increase.

I think Trump threw a number 45% of a two person working family sending their children to daycare. These people have very little, if any, disposal income. You are talking money out of their fixed expenses, and putting it in peoples' pockets that don't need it.

45% daycare, say 18% federal and 5% state income tax, and 8% SS, and Medicare, that is 76% in taxes. The only number that could drop is daycare. You think that this is a way to live, and work. It is great, if you don't intend eat. Maybe you can go out bare ass, so you can save on clothing. Maybe as an act of common decency, the government can provide people clothing. Of course, the clothing would all have to be the same, so we will know who the deadbeat freeloaders are.

Let's talk about a flat tax. The contention is everybody should pay the tax rate as if all things are equal. They are not. So, my post was to level the field. There has a graduated income forever. You don't change that overnight, and now say all things are equal. How do you make up for the past injustices by punishing the people that can least afford it?

The flat tax would have to be gross income with no deductions. Everyone, and everything has to be equal. That eliminates all the itemized deductions, and the child tax credit.

The housing market, and the stock market would collapse. It would be a lot worse than 2008. Banks and mortgage companies would look at the losses in 2008 as the good old days. The rich would lose more in the stock market than they would gain by having a lower tax rate. What do you say to people that need the mortgage interest, and property tax deduction, and all other itemized deductions to pay for the mortgage? Sorry! We have to give the rich more money. Sure, that would fly.

As far as the estate tax, the death tax is a term Republican's use demonize it. It affects 2 out of 1,000 people in the U.S. These people have excellent accountants, and attorneys. They are getting around a portion of the tax. If it is within the law, there is no problem. Don't go out there and give the impression that elimination of the estate tax will benefit everyone.

By the way, I gave my daughter, and my three grandchildren $125,000. as a down payment on a house. You don't have to wait until you die to help your children. They appreciate it more, when the gift is given when you are living. I guess when you said I was one of the needy ones, you hit the nail right on the head.

A flat tax will never happen. It is a beyond stupid idea. Simple solutions to complex problems never work.

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Apparently, you aren't the person that wrote the initial post. I think that you are the person that always uses the word libtard. When someone responses to you with facts, you always disappear. However, you are follow the same stupid path that he did. You are just another far right wing Republican that always has to tag everyone that doesn't agree with you as a liberal with their hands always out. In other words, you don't know anything about me.

I worked in management all my life. The only thing that I have received from the government is social security, and Medicare. My last year of college, I was supporting my wife, and a baby. I had 20 hours days between work, and college. We qualified for the WIC program. You try existing on 4 hours of sleep a night with a new baby in the house.

There is nothing wrong with the current tax rate system. The reason that I brought up the estate tax was that he said all things should be equal. I don't believe for one second that you shouldn't be able to pass your estate to your children. even with the graduated rates, the tax system as is benefits the rich, and powerful. The money that they are paying is coming from their disposal income, which they have a hard time spending now. You are talking about increasing taxes on at least 47% of the people in the U. S, most of which couldn't afford a tax increase.

I think Trump threw a number 45% of a two person working family sending their children to daycare. These people have very little, if any, disposal income. You are talking money out of their fixed expenses, and putting it in peoples' pockets that don't need it.

45% daycare, say 18% federal and 5% state income tax, and 8% SS, and Medicare, that is 76% in taxes. The only number that could drop is daycare. You think that this is a way to live, and work. It is great, if you don't intend eat. Maybe you can go out bare ass, so you can save on clothing. Maybe as an act of common decency, the government can provide people clothing. Of course, the clothing would all have to be the same, so we will know who the deadbeat freeloaders are.

Let's talk about a flat tax. The contention is everybody should pay the tax rate as if all things are equal. They are not. So, my post was to level the field. There has a graduated income forever. You don't change that overnight, and now say all things are equal. How do you make up for the past injustices by punishing the people that can least afford it?

The flat tax would have to be gross income with no deductions. Everyone, and everything has to be equal. That eliminates all the itemized deductions, and the child tax credit.

The housing market, and the stock market would collapse. It would be a lot worse than 2008. Banks and mortgage companies would look at the losses in 2008 as the good old days. The rich would lose more in the stock market than they would gain by having a lower tax rate. What do you say to people that need the mortgage interest, and property tax deduction, and all other itemized deductions to pay for the mortgage? Sorry! We have to give the rich more money. Sure, that would fly.

As far as the estate tax, the death tax is a term Republican's use demonize it. It affects 2 out of 1,000 people in the U.S. These people have excellent accountants, and attorneys. They are getting around a portion of the tax. If it is within the law, there is no problem. Don't go out there and give the impression that elimination of the estate tax will benefit everyone.

By the way, I gave my daughter, and my three grandchildren $125,000. as a down payment on a house. You don't have to wait until you die to help your children. They appreciate it more, when the gift is given when you are living. I guess when you said I was one of the needy ones, you hit the nail right on the head.

A flat tax will never happen. It is a beyond stupid idea. Simple solutions to complex problems never work.

I wrote the original post and I have never called anyone a libtard but have been accused 100's of times. Recently I also asked how many people watched the speech? I even gave a link so you could watch it without doing anything but click. The speech was important for both sides to see and nobody here will take the time to look at it.

Hardly anyone reads.

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People read and hear what they want to.
the other day Hillary said in error she was raising taxes everyone cheered, they heard "lower"

I'm sure millions watched it.

I'm sure many in TV watched, it was a major policy speech.

yes I watched it and saw it as CHANGE.

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I wrote the original post and I have never called anyone a libtard but have been accused 100's of times. Recently I also asked how many people watched the speech? I even gave a link so you could watch it without doing anything but click. The speech was important for both sides to see and nobody here will take the time to look at it.

Hardly anyone reads.

The person that I was responding to called me "a needy one, or a libtard bleeding heart. Take a look at the first sentence of my post. I said that I doubted that I was responding to the person that started this thread, which would be you.

I did watch the speech, and my first post was more about details of the speech rather than his appearance, which all the respondents were to that point. Then, I got attacked by the flat taxers.

AP fact check: How does Donald Trump's economic plan hold up? | PBS NewsHour (http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/ap-fact-check-donald-trumps-economic-plan-hold/)

Trump might have changed his tone, but he still lives in his own fact free zone.

Independent government agencies have put numbers on his economic proposals, as well as Hillary's. They have projected that his plan will add between 7-10 trillion to the national debt over ten years. Hillary would add less than 1 trillion over ten years.

Reagan, Bush Sr., and Clinton all cut taxes, but they were all revenue neutral. The cut expense to offset the loss of revenue. That was Republican 101. You don't add to the debt. Trump, and Hillary didn't cut any of the existing programs. Trump is relying totally on a doubling of the GDP. That is an incredible roll of the dice.

This is for Mr. Libtard also, who mentioned the recent recovery under Obama. Things have changed with the world economy. This last recovery took time, because of changes in the world economy. Blaming Obama for the changes are just Republican talking points to the undereducated that care less about details. Production jobs in great number have left the U.S. Making the assumption that cutting taxes will put more money in people's pockets; therefore, everything will be peachy keen again.

The tax rate cuts that he is proposing are going to the wealthy. Middle class aren't going to see much more in their pockets. The tax rate cuts will benefit the upper classes you would expect coming from the advisors that he used.

He intends to cut the corporate tax for 35% to 15%. There is a real big problem there. Professional organizations (ie. attorneys, accountants, Wall Street ) have been using the LLC laws to reduce their tax burden. Instead of paying the 39.% rate as an individual, they are paying the corporate rate 35%, and get to deduct expense they wouldn't have been able to do as a private citizen. As corporations these people that add little production to the economy will have their tax rate lowered by 20% with no benefit to the economy.

Trump didn't or include in his proposal how he was going to pay for the inter structure changes he wants to make. It has been estimated that it would cost three trillion over ten years to correct. They estimated that only 1/3 of the changes made sense due to the cost.

Again given the state of the world economy, relying of an doubling of the GDP just isn't smart.

He will probably upset many countries with his renegotiations of the existing trade agreements. The trade deal were Republican inspired that backfired for the common working man, but major corporation did just fine.

I done!

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You are obviously a candidate for anger management therapy. Do you get punched a lot, or are you only brave on your computer? Not my business. What a pathetic loser!

You are another one that thinks that name calling bothers people. I only respond to name calling with name calling on my own, when the name caller deserved it.

The best response is the one that we were taught as a child. I am rubber. You are glue. Everything that you say about me bounces off me, and sticks to you.

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Apparently, you aren't the person that wrote the initial post. I think that you are the person that always uses the word libtard. When someone responses to you with facts, you always disappear. However, you are follow the same stupid path that he did. You are just another far right wing Republican that always has to tag everyone that doesn't agree with you as a liberal with their hands always out. In other words, you don't know anything about me.

I worked in management all my life. The only thing that I have received from the government is social security, and Medicare. My last year of college, I was supporting my wife, and a baby. I had 20 hours days between work, and college. We qualified for the WIC program. You try existing on 4 hours of sleep a night with a new baby in the house.

There is nothing wrong with the current tax rate system. The reason that I brought up the estate tax was that he said all things should be equal. I don't believe for one second that you shouldn't be able to pass your estate to your children. even with the graduated rates, the tax system as is benefits the rich, and powerful. The money that they are paying is coming from their disposal income, which they have a hard time spending now. You are talking about increasing taxes on at least 47% of the people in the U. S, most of which couldn't afford a tax increase.

I think Trump threw a number 45% of a two person working family sending their children to daycare. These people have very little, if any, disposal income. You are talking money out of their fixed expenses, and putting it in peoples' pockets that don't need it.

45% daycare, say 18% federal and 5% state income tax, and 8% SS, and Medicare, that is 76% in taxes. The only number that could drop is daycare. You think that this is a way to live, and work. It is great, if you don't intend eat. Maybe you can go out bare ass, so you can save on clothing. Maybe as an act of common decency, the government can provide people clothing. Of course, the clothing would all have to be the same, so we will know who the deadbeat freeloaders are.

Let's talk about a flat tax. The contention is everybody should pay the tax rate as if all things are equal. They are not. So, my post was to level the field. There has a graduated income forever. You don't change that overnight, and now say all things are equal. How do you make up for the past injustices by punishing the people that can least afford it?

The flat tax would have to be gross income with no deductions. Everyone, and everything has to be equal. That eliminates all the itemized deductions, and the child tax credit.

The housing market, and the stock market would collapse. It would be a lot worse than 2008. Banks and mortgage companies would look at the losses in 2008 as the good old days. The rich would lose more in the stock market than they would gain by having a lower tax rate. What do you say to people that need the mortgage interest, and property tax deduction, and all other itemized deductions to pay for the mortgage? Sorry! We have to give the rich more money. Sure, that would fly.

As far as the estate tax, the death tax is a term Republican's use demonize it. It affects 2 out of 1,000 people in the U.S. These people have excellent accountants, and attorneys. They are getting around a portion of the tax. If it is within the law, there is no problem. Don't go out there and give the impression that elimination of the estate tax will benefit everyone.

By the way, I gave my daughter, and my three grandchildren $125,000. as a down payment on a house. You don't have to wait until you die to help your children. They appreciate it more, when the gift is given when you are living. I guess when you said I was one of the needy ones, you hit the nail right on the head.

A flat tax will never happen. It is a beyond stupid idea. Simple solutions to complex problems never work.

How did you deal with the " Gift Tax " which the IRS is looking for if you give anyone more than about $11,000 in any single year ?

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Apparently, you aren't the person that wrote the initial post. I think that you are the person that always uses the word libtard. When someone responses to you with facts, you always disappear. However, you are follow the same stupid path that he did. You are just another far right wing Republican that always has to tag everyone that doesn't agree with you as a liberal with their hands always out. In other words, you don't know anything about me.

I worked in management all my life. The only thing that I have received from the government is social security, and Medicare. My last year of college, I was supporting my wife, and a baby. I had 20 hours days between work, and college. We qualified for the WIC program. You try existing on 4 hours of sleep a night with a new baby in the house.

There is nothing wrong with the current tax rate system. The reason that I brought up the estate tax was that he said all things should be equal. I don't believe for one second that you shouldn't be able to pass your estate to your children. even with the graduated rates, the tax system as is benefits the rich, and powerful. The money that they are paying is coming from their disposal income, which they have a hard time spending now. You are talking about increasing taxes on at least 47% of the people in the U. S, most of which couldn't afford a tax increase.

I think Trump threw a number 45% of a two person working family sending their children to daycare. These people have very little, if any, disposal income. You are talking money out of their fixed expenses, and putting it in peoples' pockets that don't need it.

45% daycare, say 18% federal and 5% state income tax, and 8% SS, and Medicare, that is 76% in taxes. The only number that could drop is daycare. You think that this is a way to live, and work. It is great, if you don't intend eat. Maybe you can go out bare ass, so you can save on clothing. Maybe as an act of common decency, the government can provide people clothing. Of course, the clothing would all have to be the same, so we will know who the deadbeat freeloaders are.

Let's talk about a flat tax. The contention is everybody should pay the tax rate as if all things are equal. They are not. So, my post was to level the field. There has a graduated income forever. You don't change that overnight, and now say all things are equal. How do you make up for the past injustices by punishing the people that can least afford it?

The flat tax would have to be gross income with no deductions. Everyone, and everything has to be equal. That eliminates all the itemized deductions, and the child tax credit.

The housing market, and the stock market would collapse. It would be a lot worse than 2008. Banks and mortgage companies would look at the losses in 2008 as the good old days. The rich would lose more in the stock market than they would gain by having a lower tax rate. What do you say to people that need the mortgage interest, and property tax deduction, and all other itemized deductions to pay for the mortgage? Sorry! We have to give the rich more money. Sure, that would fly.

As far as the estate tax, the death tax is a term Republican's use demonize it. It affects 2 out of 1,000 people in the U.S. These people have excellent accountants, and attorneys. They are getting around a portion of the tax. If it is within the law, there is no problem. Don't go out there and give the impression that elimination of the estate tax will benefit everyone.

By the way, I gave my daughter, and my three grandchildren $125,000. as a down payment on a house. You don't have to wait until you die to help your children. They appreciate it more, when the gift is given when you are living. I guess when you said I was one of the needy ones, you hit the nail right on the head.

A flat tax will never happen. It is a beyond stupid idea. Simple solutions to complex problems never work.

Excellent post! :BigApplause:

It does however, create a problem.

Per some people, I am the only left-leaning person here.

I guess you just disabused them of that hope. :D

While taking credit for your well written and time consuming post refuting some right-wingnuts simplistic screeching, would be an honor...no way my integrity and ethics would allow that.

Once again...outstanding job! :thumbup:

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CNM

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Apparently, you aren't the person that wrote the initial post. I think that you are the person that always uses the word libtard. When someone responses to you with facts, you always disappear. However, you are follow the same stupid path that he did. You are just another far right wing Republican that always has to tag everyone that doesn't agree with you as a liberal with their hands always out. In other words, you don't know anything about me.

I worked in management all my life. The only thing that I have received from the government is social security, and Medicare. My last year of college, I was supporting my wife, and a baby. I had 20 hours days between work, and college. We qualified for the WIC program. You try existing on 4 hours of sleep a night with a new baby in the house.

There is nothing wrong with the current tax rate system. The reason that I brought up the estate tax was that he said all things should be equal. I don't believe for one second that you shouldn't be able to pass your estate to your children. even with the graduated rates, the tax system as is benefits the rich, and powerful. The money that they are paying is coming from their disposal income, which they have a hard time spending now. You are talking about increasing taxes on at least 47% of the people in the U. S, most of which couldn't afford a tax increase.

I think Trump threw a number 45% of a two person working family sending their children to daycare. These people have very little, if any, disposal income. You are talking money out of their fixed expenses, and putting it in peoples' pockets that don't need it.

45% daycare, say 18% federal and 5% state income tax, and 8% SS, and Medicare, that is 76% in taxes. The only number that could drop is daycare. You think that this is a way to live, and work. It is great, if you don't intend eat. Maybe you can go out bare ass, so you can save on clothing. Maybe as an act of common decency, the government can provide people clothing. Of course, the clothing would all have to be the same, so we will know who the deadbeat freeloaders are.

Let's talk about a flat tax. The contention is everybody should pay the tax rate as if all things are equal. They are not. So, my post was to level the field. There has a graduated income forever. You don't change that overnight, and now say all things are equal. How do you make up for the past injustices by punishing the people that can least afford it?

The flat tax would have to be gross income with no deductions. Everyone, and everything has to be equal. That eliminates all the itemized deductions, and the child tax credit.

The housing market, and the stock market would collapse. It would be a lot worse than 2008. Banks and mortgage companies would look at the losses in 2008 as the good old days. The rich would lose more in the stock market than they would gain by having a lower tax rate. What do you say to people that need the mortgage interest, and property tax deduction, and all other itemized deductions to pay for the mortgage? Sorry! We have to give the rich more money. Sure, that would fly.

As far as the estate tax, the death tax is a term Republican's use demonize it. It affects 2 out of 1,000 people in the U.S. These people have excellent accountants, and attorneys. They are getting around a portion of the tax. If it is within the law, there is no problem. Don't go out there and give the impression that elimination of the estate tax will benefit everyone.

By the way, I gave my daughter, and my three grandchildren $125,000. as a down payment on a house. You don't have to wait until you die to help your children. They appreciate it more, when the gift is given when you are living. I guess when you said I was one of the needy ones, you hit the nail right on the head.

A flat tax will never happen. It is a beyond stupid idea. Simple solutions to complex problems never work.

Well said. Economists have looked at Trump's proposals and said they would lead the country into recession. He obviously doesn't have a clue. He can change his demeanor and try to appear normal, but we've already seen what he is really like - an immature, petulant hater who picks fights with everyone. Clearly not fit to president. And the polls are now supporting that statement.

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Excellent post! :BigApplause:

It does however, create a problem.

Per some people, I am the only left-leaning person here.

I guess you just disabused them of that hope. :D

While taking credit for your well written and time consuming post refuting some right-wingnuts simplistic screeching, would be an honor...no way my integrity and ethics would allow that.

Once again...outstanding job! :thumbup:

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CNMMy guess is about 8 lefties.

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I also don't care if you are for or against him.
My hunch is you were the only other person so far to watch it.

He was so different, I wonder who did the coaching. It was out of character. People say that he is always himself. That's the real Donald but that's not what you saw today, was it?


You are so transparent. In all your guises.

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You are so transparent. In all your guises.Is this the resurrection of the Sybil theory? I'm the one you thought was one person with many different voices.

Anyway--
Here's my favorite part of the speech that helps people like us:

"Trump presented his pledge to repeal the estate tax, worth an estimated $25bn a year, as a boon for the working class, but it only applies applies to estates larger than $5.45m for individuals, or $10.9m for married couples – in effect, people like himself and his children."

Now I will be able to give my kids the $11 million I've been saving up.

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The person that I was responding to called me "a needy one, or a libtard bleeding heart. Take a look at the first sentence of my post. I said that I doubted that I was responding to the person that started this thread, which would be you.

I did watch the speech, and my first post was more about details of the speech rather than his appearance, which all the respondents were to that point. Then, I got attacked by the flat taxers.

AP fact check: How does Donald Trump's economic plan hold up? | PBS NewsHour (http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/ap-fact-check-donald-trumps-economic-plan-hold/)

Trump might have changed his tone, but he still lives in his own fact free zone.

Independent government agencies have put numbers on his economic proposals, as well as Hillary's. They have projected that his plan will add between 7-10 trillion to the national debt over ten years. Hillary would add less than 1 trillion over ten years.

Reagan, Bush Sr., and Clinton all cut taxes, but they were all revenue neutral. The cut expense to offset the loss of revenue. That was Republican 101. You don't add to the debt. Trump, and Hillary didn't cut any of the existing programs. Trump is relying totally on a doubling of the GDP. That is an incredible roll of the dice.

This is for Mr. Libtard also, who mentioned the recent recovery under Obama. Things have changed with the world economy. This last recovery took time, because of changes in the world economy. Blaming Obama for the changes are just Republican talking points to the undereducated that care less about details. Production jobs in great number have left the U.S. Making the assumption that cutting taxes will put more money in people's pockets; therefore, everything will be peachy keen again.

The tax rate cuts that he is proposing are going to the wealthy. Middle class aren't going to see much more in their pockets. The tax rate cuts will benefit the upper classes you would expect coming from the advisors that he used.

He intends to cut the corporate tax for 35% to 15%. There is a real big problem there. Professional organizations (ie. attorneys, accountants, Wall Street ) have been using the LLC laws to reduce their tax burden. Instead of paying the 39.% rate as an individual, they are paying the corporate rate 35%, and get to deduct expense they wouldn't have been able to do as a private citizen. As corporations these people that add little production to the economy will have their tax rate lowered by 20% with no benefit to the economy.

Trump didn't or include in his proposal how he was going to pay for the inter structure changes he wants to make. It has been estimated that it would cost three trillion over ten years to correct. They estimated that only 1/3 of the changes made sense due to the cost.

Again given the state of the world economy, relying of an doubling of the GDP just isn't smart.

He will probably upset many countries with his renegotiations of the existing trade agreements. The trade deal were Republican inspired that backfired for the common working man, but major corporation did just fine.

I done!

Thank you for taking the time to write a true, honest post. Keep up the great work.

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People read and hear what they want to.

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I guess that makes me a perv.

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How did you deal with the " Gift Tax " which the IRS is looking for if you give anyone more than about $11,000 in any single year ?

it wasn't a gift. I am part own of the house, and I am on the mortgage.

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My guess is about 8 lefties.

Combined with Trump's upcoming, inevitable, humiliating and crushing loss... that's gonna really bum the righties around here out. :D


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CNM

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Well said. Economists have looked at Trump's proposals and said they would lead the country into recession. He obviously doesn't have a clue. He can change his demeanor and try to appear normal, but we've already seen what he is really like - an immature, petulant hater who picks fights with everyone. Clearly not fit to president. And the polls are now supporting that statement.

LEAD the country into recession? We've BEEN in a recession...without $10 trillion in government borrowing/spending, we'd be in a major depression. The whole "recovery" was fake, bought with borrowing $1.5 trillion a year.

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LEAD the country into recession? We've BEEN in a recession...without $10 trillion in government borrowing/spending, we'd be in a major depression. The whole "recovery" was fake, bought with borrowing $1.5 trillion a year.
I say the recovery was rigged. Rigged. The recovery was so rigged.....you know the recovery was rigged.

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I say the recovery was rigged. Rigged. The recovery was so rigged.....you know the recovery was rigged.

:BigApplause:

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it wasn't a gift. I am part own of the house, and I am on the mortgage.

Thanks for the info I do appreciate it .

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Is this the resurrection of the Sybil theory? I'm the one you thought was one person with many different voices.

Anyway--
Here's my favorite part of the speech that helps people like us:

"Trump presented his pledge to repeal the estate tax, worth an estimated $25bn a year, as a boon for the working class, but it only applies applies to estates larger than $5.45m for individuals, or $10.9m for married couples – in effect, people like himself and his children."

Now I will be able to give my kids the $11 million I've been saving up.

What century did you just come from? $5 million is nothing when you look at a family farm. Shoot, a home in a big city will cost you that much. Why should the gov. take your property when you pass? I have nothing but disdain for Democrats because of their belief that anyone that is better than them should share their earnings. That is NOT American. That is childish and selfish.

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LEAD the country into recession? We've BEEN in a recession...without $10 trillion in government borrowing/spending, we'd be in a major depression. The whole "recovery" was fake, bought with borrowing $1.5 trillion a year.

If you believe this, you really are in a world of your own, but I do see you have a few followers here. Without "W's" tax cuts, and Obama's extension of them, and the unfunded wars, we wouldn't have had to borrow 10 trillion. The problems didn't start on 1/20/09. Keep trying to convince open minded people that was the case. History will prove you wrong, but who gives a damn about history. We know that all history is rigged.

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What century did you just come from? $5 million is nothing when you look at a family farm. Shoot, a home in a big city will cost you that much. Why should the gov. take your property when you pass? I have nothing but disdain for Democrats because of their belief that anyone that is better than them should share their earnings. That is NOT American. That is childish and selfish.

You are being played like a fiddle. Where do get your numbers from only Fox News? I don't think that they would go as far as to state $5 million is nothing for a family farm.

The average family farm is worth 600 to 800 thousand dollars, and very few exceed 1.2 million. In 2013, 20 small businesses, and small family farms estates nationwide owed any estate taxes. These figures came from a government tax agency.

When Trump is throwing out there eliminating estate will help small businesses, and family farms, he is full of it. 20 in an entire year would have benefitted.

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Thanks for the info I do appreciate it .


You are welcome. One thing, you have to careful of. I had to apply for a home equity loan to give my other daughter a down payment on the house. I had to provide the bank with proof that my daughter was making the mortgage payments, which she was. Therefore, the loan got approved.

I will be on my other daughter's mortgage also. We will have to see how they consider my first mortgage responsibility. It would be more expensive due to federal income tax to take the down payment out of 401(k) plan, but you do for one you have to do for the other. I don't need any family wars.

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You are welcome. One thing, you have to careful of. I had to apply for a home equity loan to give my other daughter a down payment on the house. I had to provide the bank with proof that my daughter was making the mortgage payments, which she was. Therefore, the loan got approved.

I will be on my other daughter's mortgage also. We will have to see how they consider my first mortgage responsibility. It would be more expensive due to federal income tax to take the down payment out of 401(k) plan, but you do for one you have to do for the other. I don't need any family wars.

Again many thanks for the info . You make excellent points and helping the next generation is the greatest gift .
I feel the same way about education . I have made certain that my 2 daughters received the best education possible from Elementary School thru College .
It wasn`t easy especially in the early years when I was young and working my way up .

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You are being played like a fiddle. Where do get your numbers from only Fox News? I don't think that they would go as far as to state $5 million is nothing for a family farm.

The average family farm is worth 600 to 800 thousand dollars, and very few exceed 1.2 million. In 2013, 20 small businesses, and small family farms estates nationwide owed any estate taxes. These figures came from a government tax agency.

When Trump is throwing out there eliminating estate will help small businesses, and family farms, he is full of it. 20 in an entire year would have benefitted.

B.S.! A single family home in the suburbs of a sizable city will cost you a million. It appears that it is you that's being played. Played by liberal media. Shoot, my daughter got over $600K for her townhouse in Virginia two years ago.

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B.S.! A single family home in the suburbs of a sizable city will cost you a million. It appears that it is you that's being played. Played by liberal media. Shoot, my daughter got over $600K for her townhouse in Virginia two years ago.

Well, when she deficits what she paid plus the money spent for upgrades and the $500 capitol gains credit. She owes zip, nada.

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B.S.! A single family home in the suburbs of a sizable city will cost you a million. It appears that it is you that's being played. Played by liberal media. Shoot, my daughter got over $600K for her townhouse in Virginia two years ago.

Most farms barely get by, they are heavily mortgaged, having to buy expensive equipment. Horse farms like in Ocala are owned by the wealthy who make their money elsewhere, like the Morse Family. That is who trump is talking about. Tax breaks for the rich.

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Most farms barely get by, they are heavily mortgaged, having to buy expensive equipment. Horse farms like in Ocala are owned by the wealthy who make their money elsewhere, like the Morse Family. That is who trump is talking about. Tax breaks for the rich.

Who cares? It's their money, not the government's. Why does it bother you what someone else does with their money? Aren't you doing OK?

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B.S.! A single family home in the suburbs of a sizable city will cost you a million. It appears that it is you that's being played. Played by liberal media. Shoot, my daughter got over $600K for her townhouse in Virginia two years ago.

You just changed the subject. Who gives a damn suburban housing prices?

Trump comment said eliminating the estate tax would really help SMALL BUSINESSES, AND SMALL FAMILY FARMS.
Ten Facts You Should Know About the Federal Estate Tax | Center on Budget and Policy Priorities (http://www.cbpp.org/research/ten-facts-you-should-know-about-the-federal-estate-tax)

Take a look at number 4!

My eyes are wide open, and I will google a comment that can be verified before I say anything on this forum. Maybe you should do the same before making statements that are not supported by facts.

You are the perfect Trump supporter, and Fox News viewer. You take everything they say at face value, and they are lying their asses off.

If you want both sides of an argument, watch Morning Joe. That is as objective a news program as there is on TV. They ALWAYS support their comments with facts. They have no problem attacking Hillary.

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Who cares? It's their money, not the government's. Why does it bother you what someone else does with their money? Aren't you doing OK?

The 47% wording that you posted is total nonsense.

Who is the 47% Not Paying Taxes? | Fox Business (http://www.foxbusiness.com/features/2012/09/27/who-is-47-not-paying-taxes.html)

Take a look at the breakdown of the 47%. 10% are elderly. The elderly are going to vote for Trump. The working poor make up a great deal of the 47%. Trump's biggest supporters are the undereducated. All races are included in the undereducated. The majority of the 47% aren't saying a damn thing about what everyone else is paying in taxes.

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Come on now. Just look at the demographics of the major cities in all of the battleground states. We all know that the poor, the black, the Latinos, the young, the educated women, the college educated males under 55 are voting blocs that will turn out in big numbers to vote Democrat.

The polls are favoring Hillary. The betting odds are favoring Hillary. Republican leaders are backing away from Trump. Trump is a trainwreck and has dragged the Republican Party to depths unknown in the past.

Trump has played his fantasy of a Presidential run and really does not want to be elected. It was all just playing a game. Yes, he will get back ALL of his campaign money he invested plus interest.

3 iron

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The Election Betting Odds today gives Hillary a 77 percent chance of being the next President. Trump has dropped to a 19 percent chance.

This is for money, not politics.

Anyone want to take Trump with a $100 bet right now? I always enjoy taking easy money. You hard core Tea Party guys should take a "durn whippersnapper librul" up on this. :beer3:

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All that will change after the debates.

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You just changed the subject. Who gives a damn suburban housing prices?

Trump comment said eliminating the estate tax would really help SMALL BUSINESSES, AND SMALL FAMILY FARMS.
Ten Facts You Should Know About the Federal Estate Tax | Center on Budget and Policy Priorities (http://www.cbpp.org/research/ten-facts-you-should-know-about-the-federal-estate-tax)

Take a look at number 4!

My eyes are wide open, and I will google a comment that can be verified before I say anything on this forum. Maybe you should do the same before making statements that are not supported by facts.

You are the perfect Trump supporter, and Fox News viewer. You take everything they say at face value, and they are lying their asses off.

If you want both sides of an argument, watch Morning Joe. That is as objective a news program as there is on TV. They ALWAYS support their comments with facts. They have no problem attacking Hillary.

It's always refreshing when people put some thought and effort into their posts, by providing actual facts and links... not just opinion, anecdotal references or emotional rhetoric :thumbup:

Why is it, that it's mostly those of us who lean left.....that aren't too lazy or ignorant to do so? ;)


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CNM

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Interesting that almost all of the last six posts were by the same idiot no it all.

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It's always refreshing when people put some thought and effort into their posts, by providing actual facts and links... not just opinion, anecdotal references or emotional rhetoric :thumbup:

Why is it, that it's mostly those of us who lean left.....that aren't too lazy or ignorant to do so? ;)


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CNM

Guess that leaves you out.

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Interesting that almost all of the last six posts were by the same idiot no it all.How do you think the idiot would spell "no it all"?

There are only 4 letters in the word know and you left out half of them.

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How do you think the idiot would spell "no it all"?

There are only 4 letters in the word know and you left out half of them.

Isn't is a fact that the uneducated people the ones that Trumpanzee has as his target audience? Well, the joker who does not know how to spell "know it all" certainly fits into that group.

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All that will change after the debates.

Yesterday, Trump said he may boycott any debates with Hillary - because they conflict with football games.

The election is hers!

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All that will change after the debates.

What debate? trump is waffling, which is not unusual. He will be taken to the wood shed by Hillary.

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How many of the 16 he beat were better than her?

Cruz was considered one of the best, he beat him too.

Oh wait she beat Obama in the debates right?

You should hope she doesn't have a stroke or seizure arguing with his style of debating.


Just make sure to have a lie counter on hand

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Trump will expose her lies & corruption to millions who were blinded by the media.

When Cruz was at Princeton, Cruz was an award-winning debater

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Yesterday, Trump said he may boycott any debates with Hillary - because they conflict with football games.

The election is hers!

Thanks for clearing that up . No need for the election then .
Have you contacted the local Elections Boards to let them know .

The expense associated with running a general election can be avoided so you would be doing everyone a favor by getting it called off .

Thanks ,

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Thanks for clearing that up . No need for the election then .
Have you contacted the local Elections Boards to let them know .

The expense associated with running a general election can be avoided so you would be doing everyone a favor by getting it called off .

Thanks ,

Well, that certainly would be saving money due to the inevitable outcome of Hillary winning.

After all, :jester:The Trumpanzee has publically stated if Hillary wins, it is due to the election being rigged.

You are right. Just cancel the election now, save money, and deport :jester:The Trumpanzee. Sounds like a perfect plan! :a20:

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Well, that certainly would be saving money due to the inevitable outcome of Hillary winning.

After all, :jester:The Trumpanzee has publically stated if Hillary wins, it is due to the election being rigged.

You are right. Just cancel the election now, save money, and deport :jester:The Trumpanzee. Sounds like a perfect plan! :a20:

Why worry about saving money? That money is going toward jobs. A lot of the money is donated by big business/Wall St. so why would anyone care if they saved money or not?

I don't need to watch The Donald expose Hillary's dirt to the world to change my vote from The Donald. I already know that I will not vote for another scumbag Clinton criminal. But, I guess liberals will never be exposed to Hillary's corruption on the liberal media until the debate, so there is that. If a liberal still votes for Hillary after knowing she is a scumbag felon, then those liberals are just plain stupid.

Debate or not, my vote will go to Trump. In my opinion, Trump is smarter than Reagan but with a lot less charisma. I know I will field a lot of wrath from both sides, but that's my opinion.

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Well, that certainly would be saving money due to the inevitable outcome of Hillary winning.

After all, :jester:The Trumpanzee has publically stated if Hillary wins, it is due to the election being rigged.

Already making excuses, because his ego can't stand the shock of losing to a woman...even if she is a LOT smarter than he is. :1rotfl:





You are right. Just cancel the election now, save money, and deport :jester:The Trumpanzee. Sounds like a perfect plan! :a20:

NOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Dang you for even suggesting, taking away the best entertainment.....in a couple of generations. :rant-rave:


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CNM

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Yesterday, Trump said he may boycott any debates with Hillary - because they conflict with football games.

The election is hers!

There have to be conflicts news on the debates. MSNBC has reported that Trump is trying to negotiate for a moderator, that is acceptable to him. That probably limits the candidates to Sean Hannity. He will attend the debates. If he skips them, everybody but his loyal supporters will know that he is a loud mouth coward.

I think that the football excuse didn't fly, when 69% of the people polled said that they would watch the debates over a football game.

Trump didn't win the debates based upon policy. He broke even due to the number of people in the debates, that meant less time questioning him. He stood up there calling people names, and noting the place that they had on the stage. It was all a distraction. The other candidates went at each other, giving him a free pass.

With one on One, there will be no free passes. She will destroy him on policies. He can't get into detail on anything. If he does, there will be follow up questions, that he will not be able to answer.

In case you haven't noticed Trump is just doing what he does best entertaining the crowd with mostly total nonsense. There is no crowd at the debates.

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Already making excuses, because his ego can't stand the shock of losing to a woman...even if she is a LOT smarter than he is. :1rotfl:







NOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Dang you for even suggesting, taking away the best entertainment.....in a couple of generations. :rant-rave:


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CNM

There you go again referring to Hillary as a woman .