Shopping carts

[virgind]

Please be considerate of handicap people. This was at winn dixie Sumter Landing. You took the cart out there take it back.

[kcrazorbackfan]

Please be considerate of handy cap people. This was at winn dixie Sumter Landing. You took the cart out there take it back.

I don't know why, must have had a brain freeze or something, but I decided to go to Colony Publix one afternoon to get a few groceries. I noticed some shopping carts like this in a handicap area so I gathered them up to take them in; a lady that happened to be parked next to them thanked me because of the difficulty of her husband getting out of their car. Said she couldn't understand why people left them there.

[DeanFL]

Personally I like the way Aldi does it. To get a cart, put a quarter in the mechanism near the cart handle and the chain releases from the cart in front of it. Do your thing and return the cart to the cart corral, put the chain into your cart holder and out pops your quarter. Efficient. Works for me, folks bring their carts back, and possibly one less employee at the store rounding up carts.

[Fraugoofy]

Personally I like the way Aldi does it. To get a cart, put a quarter in the mechanism near the cart handle and the chain releases from the cart in front of it. Do your thing and return the cart to the cart corral, put the chain into your cart holder and out pops your quarter. Efficient. Works for me, and possibly one less employee at the store rounding up carts.
Yes, I agree. I love Aldi!

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[Fredster]

Personally I like the way Aldi does it. To get a cart, put a quarter in the mechanism near the cart handle and the chain releases from the cart in front of it. Do your thing and return the cart to the cart corral, put the chain into your cart holder and out pops your quarter. Efficient. Works for me, folks bring their carts back, and possibly one less employee at the store rounding up carts.

That is great, but also consider the people that are hired to go out and round up carts, would lose their jobs.
A woman friend of mine worked with those kids to get them employed, and it meant a lot to them to have the work.

[Miles42]

If you look around close to the handicap spots there is no real place to take them. I suspect they are left by those who are handicapped because of the difficulties they may have. When I am walking by there if I see them i take them on back to the store.

[starflyte1]

Some people use a cart instead of taking their walker.

[Sable99]

There is always two sides of a story. I always take the cart back to the cart corral. However, my 92 year old mother appreciates the carts left near handicapped parking. She uses them to get into a store without using her walker. If it is a good day, she will use that cart inside the store. If it's not a good day, she will try to get a rider.

I agree that it is not always easy for a handicapped person to return a cart to the cart corral.

[maureenod]

I believe all handicapped people are given assistance with their shopping to their car. Even people in good health are asked if they need help. The carts are then taken back to the store by the employee. It only takes a minute to return a cart to the corral and the exercise is good. I think most considerate people do this.

[golfing eagles]

That is great, but also consider the people that are hired to go out and round up carts, would lose their jobs.
A woman friend of mine worked with those kids to get them employed, and it meant a lot to them to have the work.

Just wait and see what happens to THAT job if minimum wage goes to $15/hour

[stan the man]

Dont worry you will pay for the raise

[golfing eagles]

Dont worry you will pay for the raise

Doubt it. The grocery stores will just take a $20 deposit to leave the store with a cart and give it back when you return it. Better bring your cash.

[maureenod]

Just wait and see what happens to THAT job if minimum wage goes to $15/hour

Everyone needs to make a decent wage, even $15 hour is hard to live on. Welfare has to come into play at present minimum wage. Business have to factor it in, also they have to get rid of deadbeats. Shape up or ship out.

[DeanFL]

Everyone needs to make a decent wage, even $15 hour is hard to live on. Welfare has to come into play at present minimum wage. Business have to factor it in, also they have to get rid of deadbeats. Shape up or ship out.

I'm the guy that brought up Aldi's and their carts. After writing I JUST KNEW that someone would point out those employees who round up carts and lost jobs and... valid point of view but... Now the Thread transitions to minimum wage.

Sometime I get dizzy with responses to original topics and how they tend to wander away.... Thus is our online life in TV. Nothing bad about it - just an observation.

And - we don't have this problem much in FL - but living in Massachusetts for 20 years...many many times I saw runaway carts in parking lots slamming into parked cars - or driving cars...dangerous of course. Not a big issue here in flatland USA tho.

[klough53]

Post#8 makes a valid point! Some folks do like using the cart to move around

[Rollie]

I almost always take a cart into the store.

I took my mother shopping the other day. She has a handicap sticker but can walk, with a little help. When we arrived at the store she asked my to get her a cart so she could walk with it. I also think that carts are left behind by the somewhat handicapped.

Rollie

[Bogie Shooter]

That is great, but also consider the people that are hired to go out and round up carts, would lose their jobs.
A woman friend of mine worked with those kids to get them employed, and it meant a lot to them to have the work.

Just wait and see what happens to THAT job if minimum wage goes to $15/hour

The job holder might be able to buy some groceries.....

[Sophie11]

I almost always take a cart into the store.

I took my mother shopping the other day. She has a handicap sticker but can walk, with a little help. When we arrived at the store she asked my to get her a cart so she could walk with it. I also think that carts are left behind by the somewhat handicapped.

Rollie

You can always tell who really needs the spot as they will leave the cart for the next handicap person! If they feel as if they can walk to put the cart away I think they do not need to park in this spot. The spots are wide for this reason.

[Fredster]

Just wait and see what happens to THAT job if minimum wage goes to $15/hour

These are special needs kids, and really having work
which matches and expands their capabilities is a higher priority than the money!
Up north many supermarkets hire and employ special needs people who would
have a tough time handling other types of work!
Those are the folks I'm afraid would lose employment if all stores did carts like Aldi's!

[Topspinmo]

Please be considerate of handicap people. This was at winn dixie Sumter Landing. You took the cart out there take it back.


Good luck with that! Easier to cure cancer:wave:

[Fredster]

The job holder might be able to buy some groceries.....

Aldi's is a good example of what happens when hourly pay rises, employees multitask,
no bags, no bagging, no cart people.
Bottom line fewer jobs!

[Gpsma]

I cant wait until im fully retired so i can worry about shopping carts

Aldi is nothing more than a high class welfare store. Off brands sprinkled in with quality stuff to attract a better class of people.

Id rather go to walmart

[golfing eagles]

Everyone needs to make a decent wage, even $15 hour is hard to live on. Welfare has to come into play at present minimum wage. Business have to factor it in, also they have to get rid of deadbeats. Shape up or ship out.

Yes, it is. But minimum wage jobs are not intended to be enough for a sole breadwinner to support a family of four. They are entry level jobs for kids to get some $$ and workplace experience.

So, If we raise the pay of the high school drop out burger flipper from $ 7 to $15/hr., then the high school graduate assistant manager making $11 wants $20. The manager with an associates degree getting $17 wants $30. The regional manager with a bachelor's degree getting $25 want $40. Now, when the business "factors it in", the Big Mac meal goes from $7 to $15, and the burger flipper still works the same 1 hour to buy his dinner. Meanwhile, the seniors on fixed incomes fall further behind. They now are forced to re-enter the job market, and the manager would much rather hire a mature person with 40 years experience who is reliable than a kid who calls in sick when the surf is up and spends his work time on his cell phone. Bye-bye entry level job.

At the same time, the widget factory worker across town who screws tab A into slot B gets $15 and so on up his food chain, so that the price of American widgets goes from $10 to $14, while Chinese widgets stay $7. Pretty soon, the widget factory is priced out of the market and closes, leaving all those workers who thought they were getting a big raise unemployed. But not to worry, when they give up looking for work, they no longer count as unemployed, so that rate stays around 5%. Nothing to see here, everything is just fine.

[ColdNoMore]

Yes, it is. But minimum wage jobs are not intended to be enough for a sole breadwinner to support a family of four. They are entry level jobs for kids to get some $$ and workplace experience.
That is a totally false premise, based on an overly simplistic philosophy...that doesn't jive with reality.

There aren't enough jobs (mostly thanks to big corp's off-shoring) to allow everyone to 'move up.'

And how exactly does a 'kid' at convenience stores, housekeeping at hotels, fast-food joints, etc., etc....work during the day when they are in school? :oops:

In other words, there will ALWAYS be a need for adults to fill those positions.




So, If we raise the pay of the high school drop out burger flipper from $ 7 to $15/hr., then the high school graduate assistant manager making $11 wants $20. The manager with an associates degree getting $17 wants $30. The regional manager with a bachelor's degree getting $25 want $40. Now, when the business "factors it in", the Big Mac meal goes from $7 to $15, and the burger flipper still works the same 1 hour to buy his dinner. Meanwhile, the seniors on fixed incomes fall further behind. They now are forced to re-enter the job market, and the manager would much rather hire a mature person with 40 years experience who is reliable than a kid who calls insick when the surf is up and spends his work time on his cell phone. Bye-bye entry level job.

At the same time, the widget factory worker across town who screws tab A into slot B gets $15 and so on up his food chain, so that the price of American widgets goes from $10 to $14, while Chinese widgets stay $7. Pretty soon, the widget factory is priced out of the market and closes, leaving all those workers who thought they were getting a big raise unemployed. But not to worry, when they give up looking for work, they no longer count as unemployed, so that rate stays around 5%. Nothing to see here, everything is just fine.

Easy enough to solve.

Gather enough like-minded people who have invested in companies (either directly or with mutual funds/401K's/Roth's/Etc.) and tell those companies that you are willing to accept a lower return, or even take a loss...on your stocks with them.

I'm sure with that pressure off, they would be more than willing to bring those positions back to this country and thereby allow the current 'working poor'....to get better paying jobs.

And yes, I'm being totally facetious because the big cog in this wheel is the fact that upper management pay is often tied to stock performance (mine was), so unless that changes too, the incentive to reduce costs and increase profits.... will ALWAYS be there. :shrug:

Easiest way to reduce costs? Send the work to a country who is looking to increase their standard of living, by having citizens willing to work for substantially less than what it takes to even survive in the USA.

The big irony of course, is that we scream at countries who are basically trying to live..."The American Dream." :loco:

[golfing eagles]

That is a totally false premise, based on an overly simplistic philosophy...that doesn't jive with reality.

There aren't enough jobs (mostly thanks to big corp's off-shoring) to allow everyone to 'move up.'

And how exactly does a 'kid' at convenience stores, housekeeping at hotels, fast-food joints, etc., etc....work during the day when they are in school? :oops:

In other words, there will ALWAYS be a need for adults to fill those positions.






Easy enough to solve.

Gather enough like-minded people who have invested in companies (either directly or with mutual funds/401K's/Roth's/Etc.) and tell those companies that you are willing to accept a lower return, or even take a loss...on your stocks with them.

I'm sure with that pressure off, they would be more than willing to bring those positions back to this country and thereby allow the current 'working poor'....to get better paying jobs.

And yes, I'm being totally facetious because the big cog in this wheel is the fact that upper management pay is often tied to stock performance (mine was), so unless that changes too, the incentive to reduce costs and increase profits.... will ALWAYS be there. :shrug:

Easiest way to reduce costs? Send the work to a country who is looking to increase their standard of living, by having citizens willing to work for substantially less than what it takes to even survive in the USA.

The big irony of course, is that we scream at countries who are basically trying to live..."The American Dream." :loco:

Which is exactly what is happening. But since there is a finite limit to the total "standard of living" at any one time, the better theirs becomes, the worse ours is. Yet we continue to give the store away.

[golfing eagles]

That is a totally false premise, based on an overly simplistic philosophy...that doesn't jive with reality.

There aren't enough jobs (mostly thanks to big corp's off-shoring) to allow everyone to 'move up.'

And how exactly does a 'kid' at convenience stores, housekeeping at hotels, fast-food joints, etc., etc....work during the day when they are in school? :oops:

In other words, there will ALWAYS be a need for adults to fill those positions.


Who's being simplistic????

[Bogie Shooter]

Yes, it is. But minimum wage jobs are not intended to be enough for a sole breadwinner to support a family of four. They are entry level jobs for kids to get some $$ and workplace experience.

So, If we raise the pay of the high school drop out burger flipper from $ 7 to $15/hr., then the high school graduate assistant manager making $11 wants $20. The manager with an associates degree getting $17 wants $30. The regional manager with a bachelor's degree getting $25 want $40. Now, when the business "factors it in", the Big Mac meal goes from $7 to $15, and the burger flipper still works the same 1 hour to buy his dinner. Meanwhile, the seniors on fixed incomes fall further behind. They now are forced to re-enter the job market, and the manager would much rather hire a mature person with 40 years experience who is reliable than a kid who calls in sick when the surf is up and spends his work time on his cell phone. Bye-bye entry level job.

At the same time, the widget factory worker across town who screws tab A into slot B gets $15 and so on up his food chain, so that the price of American widgets goes from $10 to $14, while Chinese widgets stay $7. Pretty soon, the widget factory is priced out of the market and closes, leaving all those workers who thought they were getting a big raise unemployed. But not to worry, when they give up looking for work, they no longer count as unemployed, so that rate stays around 5%. Nothing to see here, everything is just fine.
Where do doctors and other medical providers figure in your analysis?

[Fredster]

Where do doctors and other medical providers figure in your analysis?

Obviously you need more than a minimum wage to do well in life.
So one might need to get a good education and gain some highly marketable skills.
Working at a low wage entry level job while going to high school convinced me to continue my education,
and work towards a profession.
But years ago we didn't have a veritable flood of uneducated, unskilled people illegally entering the country!
Times have changed haven't they?

[golfing eagles]

Where do doctors and other medical providers figure in your analysis?

That's a diverse group. Neurosurgeons or orderlies????

[virgind]

After reading all these replies I'm sorry for having any concern for handicap people. Still it can be hard for them to get out of their car with a car setting there. Beside that the cart has no handicap sticker on it's rear view mirror so they are parked illegally. Lets see what you folks do with that.