Awful Home Invasion

[jazzy48]

Not that any home invasion isn't awful, but the one that happened today is sickening.

Having this information since this afternoon, I hesitated to post it hoping it would come out from another source, but people need to be aware of what happened!

Village of Labelle. Knock on door, woman opened door, intruder pushed his way into home. Resident's dog was barking, so intruder took dog to garage and beat it to death.

Be alert! Be aware!

[ColdNoMore]

Not that any home invasion isn't awful, but the one that happened today is sickening.

Having this information since this afternoon, I hesitated to post it hoping it would come out from another source, but people need to be aware of what happened!

Village of Labelle. Knock on door, woman opened door, intruder pushed his way into home. Resident's dog was barking, so intruder took dog to garage and beat it to death.

Be alert! Be aware!

Is the woman OK?

Did they catch the scum?

Where did you hear/see this?

[TraceyMooreRN]

What time of day did this happen? Do we know if the intruder was known to the resident? This is horrible, I certainly hope the woman is safe.

[The20Percent]

Around what time? Any description of the vehicle?

[gerryh1943]

Where is the village of labelle?

[The20Percent]

South of 466a, off Morse and near the new Belle Glade country club.

[CassieInVa]

Can anyone confirm this or have any additional details???

[Challenger]

Not that any home invasion isn't awful, but the one that happened today is sickening.

Having this information since this afternoon, I hesitated to post it hoping it would come out from another source, but people need to be aware of what happened!

Village of Labelle. Knock on door, woman opened door, intruder pushed his way into home. Resident's dog was barking, so intruder took dog to garage and beat it to death.

Be alert! Be aware!

Source???

[Chatbrat]

We're a community of HAVES, surrounded by communities of HAVE NOTS-we represent old rich people who are easy pickings. Furthermore; my massage therapist has informed me that Fruitland Park & Wildwood are home to the 2 biggest drug gangs in the state of Fl-- and to those who think they don't have to carry a firearm, maybe its time to rethink about learning how to shoot and get a concealed carry permit

If you dispute the facts about Fruitland Park & Wildwood--approach a police officer , they'll tell you the truth (off the record)

[RickeyD]

We're a community of HAVES, surrounded by communities of HAVE NOTS-we represent old rich people who are easy pickings. Furthermore; my massage therapist has informed me that Fruitland Park & Wildwood are home to the 2 biggest drug gangs in the state of Fl-- and to those who think they don't have to carry a firearm, maybe its time to rethink about learning how to shoot and get a concealed carry permit

If you dispute the facts about Fruitland Park & Wildwood--approach a police officer , they'll tell you the truth (off the record)



Also, don't forget the 2 Fruitland Park PO's caught being members of the local KKK last year.

[Chatbrat]

Back in 2006 a young man became the youngest person on Fl's death row. He shot a Villages woman to death. The newspaper article referred to the Villages as a wealthy community. We have been targeted in the past and will continue to be targeted.

[graciegirl]

Back in 2006 a young man became the youngest person on Fl's death row. He shot a Villages woman to death. The newspaper article referred to the Villages as a wealthy community. We have been targeted in the past and will continue to be targeted.

Daughter of Villager brought the 18 year old into the home. It was about drugs.

Woman dies, husband injured after shootings in The Villages - tribunedigital-orlandosentinel (http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2006-07-22/news/LVILLAGESHOT22_1_sheila-miller-james-miller-diana-miller)

[ColdNoMore]

Also, don't forget the 2 Fruitland Park PO's caught being members of the local KKK last year.

Yep, and those are just the ones that were caught.


I'm still wondering about the legitimacy of the story and where the OP got their information? :confused:

It seems strange to post something like that, only mention what supposedly happened to a dog and nothing about the homeowner.

[Villager Joyce]

The print paper has a small blurb. Used the term "burglary/battery".

[graciegirl]

The print paper has a small blurb. Used the term "burglary/battery".

From The Daily Sun, Today, Friday August 12,2016

"Incident Sends Detectives to Harlow Villas

The Villages

Harlow Villas in the Village of Labelle was closed of to residents for a while Thursday while the Sumter County Sheriff's Office investigated a suspicious incident.

The report came in at 1:14 p.m., and the event was described as a burglary/battery. Sumter Sheriff's Capt. Chris Haworth said, but details were still under investigation Thursday evening.

Leah Schwarting
Daily Sun."

[Chatbrat]

Quite a difference in description--we're grown ups -heaven forbid the Daily Sun would print anything that could tarnish the image of LaLaLand

[graciegirl]

Quite a difference in description--we're grown ups -heaven forbid the Daily Sun would print anything that could tarnish the image of LaLaLand

I imagine that is all the information available from valid sources.

That is what good journalists do, just print facts from valid sources. There may be a couple journalists left who do not give opinions like the mainstream media.

[skyking]

Not that any home invasion isn't awful, but the one that happened today is sickening.

Having this information since this afternoon, I hesitated to post it hoping it would come out from another source, but people need to be aware of what happened!

Village of Labelle. Knock on door, woman opened door, intruder pushed his way into home. Resident's dog was barking, so intruder took dog to garage and beat it to death.

Be alert! Be aware!

Good thing she had a dog.

[Cisco Kid]

Good thing she had a dog.

Heartless SOB

[daveczo]

I agree, stupid thing to say.

[Barefoot]

I agree, stupid thing to say.
Very insensitive. :ohdear:

[Chatbrat]

If she didn't have a dog she might have been killed

[Sandtrap328]

It seems very strange to me that the online news would not have any mention of this - since they write articles about someone sleeping in the bushes, etc.

The Daily Sun says the police investigated a "suspicious incident" and describe it as a "burglary/battery".

It sounds to me it was a person known to the homeowner.

The gun issue is not part of the equation here. Who answers the door with a pistol drawn and pointed?

Will we find out more details of what the actual situation was or not?

[Chatbrat]

You answer the door with your hand in your pocket, ready to access your firearm--looks like you have had zero training, when it comes to firearms

I was taught how to shoot by a retired secret service agent who was on the white house security detail. Home invasions are prevalent in Florida.

This was not the typical home invasion. Most home invasions have at least 2-3 perpetrators--their intent is to shock their victim by overwhelming force.

[Stdole]

Not sure how this connects to this thread? Stay on Point

[Miles42]

Heartless SOB

Agree

[Bonny]

Good thing she had a dog.
Why would you say this ??

[graciegirl]

Sometimes people sound a little too trigger happy for me.

I love dogs. I can't think of one that ever didn't make me want to smile. How anyone could beat a dog to death in a home invasion is so far beyond my understanding, I just wonder why anyone could do that. Jeffry Dahmer comes to mind.

However. This is all based on partial knowledge. Wise people reserve judgment.

We will hope this is all a mistake. About the dog being beaten to death. Sometimes most sincere and good people pass on rumors. I will hope it is a rumor.

[CFrance]

You answer the door with your hand in your pocket, ready to access your firearm--looks like you have had zero training, when it comes to firearms

I was taught how to shoot by a retired secret service agent who was on the white house security detail. Home invasions are prevalent in Florida.

This was not the typical home invasion. Most home invasions have at least 2-3 perpetrators--their intent is to shock their victim by overwhelming force.
1. I do not walk around in clothing with pockets big enough to carry a gun in, just in case someone rings my doorbell in order to bust in.

2. You don't really know the particulars of the incident, so it's too soon to say whether it was typical or not.

3. Compassion for a defenseless animal victim as well as empathy for the human victim is in order. It is NOT good that s/he had a dog; it is bad that someone beat it to death... if that is even true.

[Chatbrat]

My carry hand guns are very compact--the dog was most likely a distraction & it broke the bad person's attention

[graciegirl]

My carry hand guns are very compact--the dog was most likely a distraction & it broke the bad person's attention

I don't care if you carry a Bazooka around. Your carrying it makes you happy. This place being safe makes me happy.

[Bogie Shooter]

I don't care if you carry a Bazooka around. Your carrying it makes you happy. This place being safe makes me happy.

:a20:

[outlaw]

I'm sure this person thought she was very safe too. Head in sand.

[graciegirl]

I'm sure this person thought she was very safe too. Head in sand.

I am 76 years old. I have lived in three states and 12 different neighborhoods in my life. They were all relatively safe. We tried very hard to work and save so we could live in relatively safe neighborhoods. This is one of them. For a place this size, crime is very low. My history may not be your history. No need to call names.

[outlaw]

I am 76 years old. I have lived in three states and 12 different neighborhoods in my life. They were all relatively safe. We tried very hard to work and save so we could live in relatively safe neighborhoods. This is one of them. For a place this size, crime is very low. My history may not be your history. No need to call names.

Probably this woman had the same experience as you, until this happened. No need to accuse anyone of calling names.

[graciegirl]

Probably this woman had the same experience as you, until this happened. No need to accuse anyone of calling names.

The sky could fall, a sinkhole could open under your shower while you're in it, you could get diagnosed with cancer tomorrow, there are possibilities always that terrible things could happen.

YOU said head in sand. I say I am a positive person with a realistic attitude. Drugs bring danger to a lot of doors, anywhere you live.

Most people who live here are law abiding. That is not to say that burglaries never happen here. There is usually a rash when the snowbirds return and every year our local LEO's have been on top of the situation. I can only think of one in recent years where the people were home...and they didn't wake up. Most people have security systems and lots of cameras everywhere. A wise move and a deterrent to crime. But break in's still could still happen, but not as likely as many places in the U.S.

The newspaper said battery. That crime is usually someone who is mad at you. Someone who knows you. A personal thing.

[kstew43]

I'm sure this person thought she was very safe too. Head in sand.

This place gives some a false sense of security.....I know it does me as well....I fall for the utopia of safety and security...

It pains me to say that we were just down the street...
scooting around in the golf cart, that very day....sun shining...looking at the new lots available in Labelle....

Horrible feeling that it was all happening when I was right down the street.

Hopefully the woman was just robbed and not something worse.

[skyking]

Heartless SOB

????
The point is: the dog may have saved her. What's wrong with you?

[Barefoot]

The Daily Sun says the police investigated a "suspicious incident" and describe it as a "burglary/battery".
It sounds to me it was a person known to the homeowner.
I wondered about that myself.
I thought a typical home invasion would involve a show of force, and quick in and out.
Taking time to beat a dog seems more personal and vindictive than a burglary, and meant to cause the homeowner distress.
Of course it's senseless to speculate about this awful situation.

[gemscatTV]

Thanks for sharing!

[Sandtrap328]

I wondered about that myself.
I thought a typical home invasion would involve a show of force, and quick in and out.
Taking time to beat a dog seems more personal and vindictive than a burglary, and meant to cause the homeowner distress.
Of course it's senseless to speculate about this awful situation.

These were villas. People who have dogs like villas so they can let the dogs out in he backyard. We were thinking maybe a neighbor just got terribly angry at a barking dog, snapped, and took matters into his hands. Any further ideas unil it is brought out in the news?

[ColdNoMore]

These were villas. People who have dogs like villas so they can let the dogs out in he backyard. We were thinking maybe a neighbor just got terribly angry at a barking dog, snapped, and took matters into his hands. Any further ideas unil it is brought out in the news?

After more facts have emerged, I was thinking the same thing.

It wouldn't surprise me at all, to find out it was a neighbor who had enough of a neighbors dog.

[skyking]

Why would you say this ??

Because I am a dog owner (rescue "Mutt") and see all the posts from those who dislike dogs (poop, barking, visiting the squares, etc.). Dogs are loyal companions and virtually all are friendly. They also can alert you and your neighbors to the presence of strangers. In this case the poor pup distracted or irritated the intruder possibly saving the victim from personal harm. Hopefully the invader receives significant punishment, not "probation".

Again, Good thing she had a dog. Everyone should have one.

[VApeople]

Dogs are loyal companions and virtually all are friendly.

Please read this web site:

U.S. Dog Bite Statistics - DogsBite.org (http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics.php)

Please accept the fact that some of us have had very bad experiences with dogs and do not like dogs.

[graciegirl]

Not a peep yet from the online news. I hope if someone did harm a dog that they will be arrested for animal cruelty.

[CassieInVa]

I find it odd that there's not more information available . Even if the person was known to the homeowner, the online newspaper usually doesn't hesitate to put names, pictures, etc. of the perpetrators.

It concerns me, because it could be a safety issue for the rest of us. I would just like to know what we are dealing with here. Very strange that it is all being kept very quiet, compared to usual.

[circletrack]

Because I am a dog owner (rescue "Mutt") and see all the posts from those who dislike dogs (poop, barking, visiting the squares, etc.). Dogs are loyal companions and virtually all are friendly. They also can alert you and your neighbors to the presence of strangers. In this case the poor pup distracted or irritated the intruder possibly saving the victim from personal harm. Hopefully the invader receives significant punishment, not "probation".

Again, Good thing she had a dog. Everyone should have one.


I'm glad that you clarified your post. Depending on how you read it, you can come away with two different feelings.

I hope the woman is OK and more details will emerge. Anything else is just speculation.

A side note: It's funny how concealed carry seems to make its way into every thread these days. I have nothing against it, but does it have to be thrown into every situation.

But I guess we all have some sort of hobby or sport or activity that consumes us.

[rubicon]

It never occurred to me to defend this development as to its, friendliest, healthiest ,securest, wonderment, as it is by some because these descriptions are simply a state of mind and marketing terms.

I always speak well of my neighbors. I compliment many village employees for their accommodations and I appreciate the courtesy given by many residents.

TVLSI spends millions on advertising and does nicely on their own for its promotion. I take no credit or blame for TV's accomplishments or faux pas because all I did was pay to live here. I appreciate many things here but then I had in every other town I lived in past years.

Perhaps before this post appears the news media will publish the rest of this story and then we will all have the truth

[Bogie Shooter]

Please read this web site:

U.S. Dog Bite Statistics - DogsBite.org (http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics.php)

Please accept the fact that some of us have had very bad experiences with dogs and do not like dogs.

There you have it.......................

[Bogie Shooter]

I wondered about that myself.
I thought a typical home invasion would involve a show of force, and quick in and out.
Taking time to beat a dog seems more personal and vindictive than a burglary, and meant to cause the homeowner distress.
Of course it's senseless to speculate about this awful situation.

Some posters apparently did not get this memo.:wave:

[graciegirl]

Some posters apparently did not get this memo.:wave:

Very good reminder.

Do you remember all that brouhaha about the "incident" at the sports pool shower room? I do. It ended up being a tempest in a teapot.

I think something happened here because a very reliable poster reported it and it was touched on in the news.

Maybe we will find out more and maybe we won't. We do now know, if we didn't before, who likes dogs, who loves them, who doesn't, who carries firearms, who doesn't care if they do and who thinks we live in a relatively safe community and who thinks we have our heads in the sand.

So...carry on y'all. And thank you Bogie. You are right.

[kfierle]

From page C6 in the paper:

"Sumter County sheriff's detectives on Friday were still investigating a possible burglary/battery incident that occurred in Harlow Villas in the Village of LaBelle.

The villas were closed for a time Thursday, the day of the incident. Sumter Capt. Chris Haworth described the investigation as a burgulary with a battery that included an animal cruelty case.

The animal was the dog of a 64-year-old woman, who reported the incident. The dog was found dead at the house. No people were badly injured, Haworth said."

[CFrance]

Please read this web site:

U.S. Dog Bite Statistics - DogsBite.org (http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics.php)

Please accept the fact that some of us have had very bad experiences with dogs and do not like dogs.
But when you read that report, pay close attention to the statistics. 86% of those bites were infliced by pit bulls, rottweilers, presa canarios, cane corsos, mastiffs, dogo argentinos, fila brasieros, sharpeis, boxers, and their mixes and only comprise 9.2% of the dog population. How many of those breeds do you see in your neighborhood? Maybe some boxers.

I would like to see a further statistic: how many of those 9.2 percent are kept as watchdogs in neighborhoods of high crime and have actually been trained as watchdogs? I suspect a high percentage.

So... are you going to malign 90.8% of the dog population because of less than 10%, and of a percentage much higher than what you are going to find in The Villages?

I'm sorry you had a bad experience with a dog and can understand your wariness. I've had a bad experience with a person, but I don't dislike all people.

I think you can pretty much tell right away what dogs to stay away from. (People, not so much.)

[Bogie Shooter]

But when you read that report, pay close attention to the statistics. 86% of those bites were infliced by pit bulls, rottweilers, presa canarios, cane corsos, mastiffs, dogo argentinos, fila brasieros, sharpeis, boxers, and their mixes and only comprise 9.2% of the dog population. How many of those breeds do you see in your neighborhood? Maybe some boxers.

I would like to see a further statistic: how many of those 9.2 percent are kept as watchdogs in neighborhoods of high crime and have actually been trained as watchdogs? I suspect a high percentage.

So... are you going to malign 90.8% of the dog population because of less than 10%, and of a percentage much higher than what you are going to find in The Villages?

I'm sorry you had a bad experience with a dog and can understand your wariness. I've had a bad experience with a person, but I don't dislike all people.

I think you can pretty much tell right away what dogs to stay away from. (People, not so much.)
___________________________________________
They know which people too. (from an earlier post)

"We have observed several thug-looking groups hanging out in the parking lots at SS. Over near the veterans monument, we saw a young guy trying to make a serious phone call (drug deal?) while his trashy-looking girlfriend was hanging all over him. Maybe that happens more in the parking lots near to 441."

[graciegirl]

From page C6 in the paper:

"Sumter County sheriff's detectives on Friday were still investigating a possible burglary/battery incident that occurred in Harlow Villas in the Village of LaBelle.

The villas were closed for a time Thursday, the day of the incident. Sumter Capt. Chris Haworth described the investigation as a burgulary with a battery that included an animal cruelty case.

The animal was the dog of a 64-year-old woman, who reported the incident. The dog was found dead at the house. No people were badly injured, Haworth said."

Now we know more and sadly the OP appears to be right about the dog. Betty Crocked, a poster who we don't see often anymore, pointed out that a burglary was when people were not present and a robbery was when people had items taken and the robber and the people were both present... This was described by Law Enforcement as a Burglary...So maybe this poor soul came home to find things gone and her pup beaten to death? I would like to harm those people myself.

[Nucky]

I think I saw those same two youngins hanging all over each other. It wasn't a drug deal it was a stock tip. Can you really tell a drug deal by where the phone call is made? That's now my neighborhood and don't like the inference that was suggested. We live here together. If it was a drug deal. See something...Say something...ring any bells?

People made innocent comments in the last year about train noises, different unidentifiable odors and it turned me off before I ever saw the village they were referring to. I would be grateful to live anywhere that's here and I would never mention those villages specifically or the main road near them.

[2BNTV]

From page C6 in the paper:

"Sumter County sheriff's detectives on Friday were still investigating a possible burglary/battery incident that occurred in Harlow Villas in the Village of LaBelle.

The villas were closed for a time Thursday, the day of the incident. Sumter Capt. Chris Haworth described the investigation as a burgulary with a battery that included an animal cruelty case.

The animal was the dog of a 64-year-old woman, who reported the incident. The dog was found dead at the house. No people were badly injured, Haworth said."

:agree:

As Sargent Joe Friday used to say, "just the facts, mame".

As usual, the speculation runs rampant.

It pays to be careful as there is some crime. I never open my door unless I know who it is. I had a peephole installed in my door, to see, who is at my door.

I hope they catch this person, as he was a savage in beating a dog, to it's death. Very sad. :(

[Villager Joyce]

I will pay the first hundred dollars to get his/her ugly mug on a billboard! Sorry a$$ garbage.

[graciegirl]

I will pay the first hundred dollars to get his/her ugly mug on a billboard! Sorry a$$ garbage.

Great idea. I so agree.

[Barefoot]

I looked in the online newspaper today for a report on this incident.
It was first reported on this thread as a "home invasion" with the owner home.
Apparently the Daily Sun is reporting it as a burglary/battery.
The online newspaper is usually the first to report "breaking crime news". Perhaps I missed it.
The circumstances are still very murky.

I don't doubt this incident happened. And it's natural for us all to be concerned about violent crime in TV.
The Daily Sun apparently reported a dead dog had been found in the Villa, a disgusting crime.
I hope the owner is OK.

[graciegirl]

From page C6 in the paper:

"Sumter County sheriff's detectives on Friday were still investigating a possible burglary/battery incident that occurred in Harlow Villas in the Village of LaBelle.

The villas were closed for a time Thursday, the day of the incident. Sumter Capt. Chris Haworth described the investigation as a burgulary with a battery that included an animal cruelty case.

The animal was the dog of a 64-year-old woman, who reported the incident. The dog was found dead at the house. No people were badly injured, Haworth said."

Here is a quote from the Sun. Nothing in online news so far.

[2BNTV]

Here is a quote from the Sun. Nothing in online news so far.

Seems like the Daily Sun scooped, the online news. :D

[Barefoot]

Seems like the Daily Sun scooped, the online news. :D
Or for some reason, the online newspaper is reticent about reporting the incident. Very strange.

[Railcruiser]

It wouldn't be a first. I'm thinking she did it herself or is protecting someone. Before you all start doubting look up the Charles Stewart case in Boston.

[Lovey2]

We're a community of HAVES, surrounded by communities of HAVE NOTS-we represent old rich people who are easy pickings. Furthermore; my massage therapist has informed me that Fruitland Park & Wildwood are home to the 2 biggest drug gangs in the state of Fl-- and to those who think they don't have to carry a firearm, maybe its time to rethink about learning how to shoot and get a concealed carry permit

If you dispute the facts about Fruitland Park & Wildwood--approach a police officer , they'll tell you the truth (off the record)

I'm still kinda stuck on Fruitland Park & Wildwood having the biggest drug gangs. Can this be true??I would think Ft. Lauderdale and Miami, maybe even Orlando would be more like it. Am I wrong to doubt the massage therapist? Anybody else ever hear this?

[Deseylou]

We moved here from Polk county
We were told that it was/ is the capital of meth houses in FL
I don't think Wildwood has a very big population to be a center for gang activity.
I'm sure they exist, but hopefully not to that extent.

[justjim]

I'm still kinda stuck on Fruitland Park & Wildwood having the biggest drug gangs. Can this be true??I would think Ft. Lauderdale and Miami, maybe even Orlando would be more like it. Am I wrong to doubt the massage therapist? Anybody else ever hear this?

I believe that there are drugs in those two cities but I have my doubts they come anywhere close to the drug activity in the Miami/Ft. Lauderdale area.

I keep looking for the "facts" from some source regarding this bizarre incident. I could give an opinion but it would just be speculation. Apparently this is still under investigation. Just glad the woman was not seriously injured and very sorry she lost her dog. BTY, this is our Village but we don't live anywhere close to the Harlow Villa complex, however, my neighborhood is very concerned.

[duffysmom]

The way this is being reported is so strange. So far we know a dog was beaten to death and have heard nothing about anyone being treated after being battered. Sickening!

[graciegirl]

The way this is being reported is so strange. So far we know a dog was beaten to death and have heard nothing about anyone being treated after being battered. Sickening!

It said in the Sun's article that no person was injured. But of course someone's pet was killed so her heart was broken. Again burglary means theft with no victim present. I would like to do some vengeful awful thing to this perp.

[Barefoot]

Am I wrong to doubt the massage therapist? As a general rule, and I'm certain there are exceptions, people working in a service industry love to pass on unsubstantiated rumors. So I wouldn't take any information to the bank that you hear from a massage therapist.

[rubicon]

Now we know more and sadly the OP appears to be right about the dog. Betty Crocked, a poster who we don't see often anymore, pointed out that a burglary was when people were not present and a robbery was when people had items taken and the robber and the people were both present... This was described by Law Enforcement as a Burglary...So maybe this poor soul came home to find things gone and her pup beaten to death? I would like to harm those people myself.

a person is robbed while a house is burglarized (break and entry)

[Lovey2]

I'm still kinda stuck on Fruitland Park & Wildwood having the biggest drug gangs. Can this be true??I would think Ft. Lauderdale and Miami, maybe even Orlando would be more like it. Am I wrong to doubt the massage therapist? Anybody else ever hear this?

So sorry! I didn't see the actual report of the incident when I posted this. WE must have been typing at the same time. (?) I thought the story was still unsubstantiated and now I feel awful. Poor puppy, and poor owner, who must feel heartbroken. I'd much rather have my "stuff" taken, than my pet hurt! :cry:

[Bogie Shooter]

I'm still kinda stuck on Fruitland Park & Wildwood having the biggest drug gangs. Can this be true??I would think Ft. Lauderdale and Miami, maybe even Orlando would be more like it. Am I wrong to doubt the massage therapist? Anybody else ever hear this?

No more than the waiter, bartender, lawn service guy, Comcast Tech, clerk at the gas station, and on & on...................

[Bogie Shooter]

We moved here from Polk county
We were told that it was/ is the capital of meth houses in FL
I don't think Wildwood has a very big population to be a center for gang activity.
I'm sure they exist, but hopefully not to that extent.

Source??

[Lovey2]

No more than the waiter, bartender, lawn service guy, Comcast Tech, clerk at the gas station, and on & on...................

:thumbup: so true...:)

[outlaw]

I think the online news tends to stay away from a lot of crime type stories, such as this one, that in the aggregate can present a negative image of TV.

[golfing eagles]

I think the online news tends to stay away from a lot of crime type stories, such as this one, that in the aggregate can present a negative image of TV.

Perhaps law enforcement is withholding details of the crime so they can trap a suspect into revealing something only the criminal would know

[graciegirl]

Perhaps law enforcement is withholding details of the crime so they can trap a suspect into revealing something only the criminal would know

I received a PM from someone who owns property in Harlow Villas, and is retired LEO. He says it isn't as bad as reported. Most of the speculation is unfounded.

I also got a PM from someone who knows someone who lives in Harlow Villas and she says it happened in much the way of speculation..

I am praying for the dog not to be harmed and that the burglars didn't find much they wanted. I fiercely hope all concerned are o.k.

[Taltarzac725]

I received a PM from someone who owns property in Harlow Villas, and is retired LEO. He says it isn't as bad as reported. Most of the speculation is unfounded.

I also got a PM from someone who knows someone who lives in Harlow Villas and she says it happened in much the way of speculation..

I am praying for the dog not to be harmed and that the burglars didn't find much they wanted. I fiercely hope all concerned are o.k.

Best to wait for a reliable source about this. Even then they might get it wrong.

[kfierle]

From the online news:

"The death of a dog in the Harlow Villas in the Village of LaBelle is being investigated by the Sumter County Sheriff’s Office.

The incident occurred Thursday afternoon and prompted a temporary security restriction of the villas.

A 64-year-old woman made a 911 call prompting the arrival of law enforcement.

The investigation is ongoing."

[TomW]

This may truly be the tragedy as reported but a lot of it doesn't ring true. Two men force the answered front door, lock the woman in a room and rob the house; and they also kill the dog for some reason during the process. Anything is possible but the report begs many questions.

[rubicon]

When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth? Sherlock Holmes

[Barefoot]

From the online news:
"The death of a dog in the Harlow Villas in the Village of LaBelle is being investigated by the Sumter County Sheriff’s Office.
The incident occurred Thursday afternoon and prompted a temporary security restriction of the villas.
A 64-year-old woman made a 911 call prompting the arrival of law enforcement.
The investigation is ongoing."
No mention of a home invasion or burglary or battery.
Just a 911 call about a dead dog which is very sad; and a temporary security restriction at the villas.
I'm sure the details will surface at a time the Police feel it's appropriate.

[graciegirl]

I am still wondering what happened. Do you think the dog somehow got into the garage and the owner was unaware of it?

It has been very hot.

Keep Pets Safe in the Heat : The Humane Society of the United States (http://www.humanesociety.org/animals/resources/tips/pets_safe_heat_wave.html)

This is pure speculation on my part. But perhaps a reminder to be very careful of our pets in this heat, especially older ones is not amiss.

Again, I know nothing that would lead me to this thought.

[CassieInVa]

Well, I'm not sure why the Daily Sun would have quoted the police as saying it was a burglary/battery incident with animal cruelty, if it was a dog left in a garage. Also not sure why they would block off the street for something like that.

I sure wish that we could get some more details.

[graciegirl]

Well, I'm not sure why the Daily Sun would have quoted the police as saying it was a burglary/battery incident with animal cruelty, if it was a dog left in a garage. Also not sure why they would block off the street for something like that.

I sure wish that we could get some more details.

I do too, I wonder what was said on the 911 call.

[Joejohnson]

Y'all need a drink, if this is stressing you out.

[Bogie Shooter]

It's only speculation, but with all these clouds it may rain.

[red tail]

It's only speculation, but with all these clouds it may rain.

another rumor !
:1rotfl:

[bevlaur]

Don't comment much, but so many times it amazes me that people really do think we live in a "bubble". Yes, crime is very low, but unfortunately, does happen around the country and the world. There are now how many people living here - well over 100,000!!! Are they all lovely, retired, happy people - probably not, but most of us are. We all came from somewhere else and truthfully, was where you lived whether 2,000 or a gazillion people - was there crime? More than likely yes, and all cities, towns etc. are next to other cities, towns, etc. that may have a bad element. So, bottom line, enjoy our lives here and just be aware that tho it is the best place we could be, it is still not Heaven, where everyone is perfect.

[TheVillageChicken]

This is a despicable incident and I don't mean to minimize or diminish it's importance, but did you realize that one our country clubs refuses to substitute tuna salad for chicken salad?

[Taltarzac725]

FLORIDA CRUELTY TO ANIMALS STATUTES (https://asci.uvm.edu/equine/law/cruelty/fl_cruel.htm)

I hope they throw the book at these two perpetrators if this is true.

[graciegirl]

FLORIDA CRUELTY TO ANIMALS STATUTES (https://asci.uvm.edu/equine/law/cruelty/fl_cruel.htm)

I hope they throw the book at these two perpetrators if this is true.

I do too. If there were two and ................

[graciegirl]

Don't comment much, but so many times it amazes me that people really do think we live in a "bubble". Yes, crime is very low, but unfortunately, does happen around the country and the world. There are now how many people living here - well over 100,000!!! Are they all lovely, retired, happy people - probably not, but most of us are. We all came from somewhere else and truthfully, was where you lived whether 2,000 or a gazillion people - was there crime? More than likely yes, and all cities, towns etc. are next to other cities, towns, etc. that may have a bad element. So, bottom line, enjoy our lives here and just be aware that tho it is the best place we could be, it is still not Heaven, where everyone is perfect.

There is no doubt that bad things happen and crime is committed both on campus in The Villages and in the surrounding areas too, and I think we have two excellent ways to read about them; both the online news and The Daily Sun, the Sun being less explicit and doesn't name names as often as the online news.

There have been several incidents reported on this forum that ended up being rumor with very little based in fact. There was an incident reported here where a woman said there was a male intruder when she was in a shower at one of the sports pools. There was another about a home invasion with harm to an individual in Duval.

I read with just as much interest as the next person when I see someone has a mug shot in the online news. Usually if there is something of interest it gets reported in the news...and sometimes it brings world wide interest to us here, like the sex on the square debacle. It is when something is reported here and doesn't appear in the news or what appears in the news is "under investigation" that some think there is a "cover up" and others wonder if anything bad really happened.

[Nucky]

This is a despicable incident and I don't mean to minimize or diminish it's importance, but did you realize that one our country clubs refuses to substitute tuna salad for chicken salad?

I understand Mr. or Mrs. Chicken. I remember your very last post in 2015 and am glad your still in the game. This really is bad no matter the details. Take Care.

[VApeople]

did you realize that one our country clubs refuses to substitute tuna salad for chicken salad?

Yes, that happened to us!!!

[Taltarzac725]

I understand Mr. or Mrs. Chicken. I remember your very last post in 2015 and am glad your still in the game. This really is bad no matter the details. Take Care.

At least, he/she did not mention the lobster bet.


Back to the subject.

If anyone has reliable information about the death of this dog and the burglary by the two(?) unknown as yet (?) suspects please post it.

[Villager Joyce]

This thread made it into the email version sent to the big World Wide Web. Now the masses will know the truth, the whole truth.

[graciegirl]

This thread made it into the email version sent to the big World Wide Web. Now the masses will know the truth, the whole truth.

What is the whole truth Joyce?

[danielj0303]

Posted to incorrect thread.

[Villager Joyce]

What is the whole truth Joyce?

How people in the Friendliest Town respond to animal cruelty and burglary threads.

[bevlaur]

There is no doubt that bad things happen and crime is committed both on campus in The Villages and in the surrounding areas too, and I think we have two excellent ways to read about them; both the online news and The Daily Sun, the Sun being less explicit and doesn't name names as often as the online news.

There have been several incidents reported on this forum that ended up being rumor with very little based in fact. There was an incident reported here where a woman said there was a male intruder when she was in a shower at one of the sports pools. There was another about a home invasion with harm to an individual in Duval.

I read with just as much interest as the next person when I see someone has a mug shot in the online news. Usually if there is something of interest it gets reported in the news...and sometimes it brings world wide interest to us here, like the sex on the square debacle. It is when something is reported here and doesn't appear in the news or what appears in the news is "under investigation" that some think there is a "cover up" and others wonder if anything bad really happened.
I agree Gracie regarding the "news" reported in TV. Take the information in both the Daily Sun and the online reports with a large grain of salt! Rumors have always run rampant, but eventually sometimes the truth wins out.

[OhioBuckeye]

Not that any home invasion isn't awful, but the one that happened today is sickening.

Having this information since this afternoon, I hesitated to post it hoping it would come out from another source, but people need to be aware of what happened!

Village of Labelle. Knock on door, woman opened door, intruder pushed his way into home. Resident's dog was barking, so intruder took dog to garage and beat it to death.

Be alert! Be aware!

I'll tell you, I carry my 380 cal. in my pocket all the time & if someone barges in on me he's going to have a surprise because as soon as they're standing on my floor space I WILL put him down & I WILL make sure he doesn't leave the inside of my house, walking or crawling, this person will be be on my floor until the police arrive. Now our present govt. wants to take our guns from us so the brave ones don't have a chance to put one of these low life theives down. If we have to wait on the police you could be just like this dog. Sorry I got off on a hate yelling spree, but it just kills me to think the non gun people that have no idea what a gun is other than Joe Doe shoot someone. Police will be worthless by the time they get to your house. Joe Doe might be the intruder pushing his way into YOUR HOUSE!

[lpaul530]

I read the **************. They report what is actually happening.

[bluedivergirl]

This may truly be the tragedy as reported but a lot of it doesn't ring true. Two men force the answered front door, lock the woman in a room and rob the house; and they also kill the dog for some reason during the process. Anything is possible but the report begs many questions.

Agreed. These homes, as built, have simple passage locks. You cannot lock someone in, you can only lock them out.

Of course, a homeowner can change the locks to an entry lock, but then the bad guys would have to know that they could lock her in. How many posters have changed a bedroom lock to an entry lock?

IMO, whatever horrid thing happened, it didn't happen as reported, and that is why we have no details.

[spring_chicken]

????
The point is: the dog may have saved her. What's wrong with you?

I understood the intent of your post, some prefer namecalling over reading comprehension . If not the dog, it may have been her.

[New York Transplant]

Some of the less fortunate resort to drastic measures. Maybe the PO's should be doing a better job instead of taking kickbacks

[Bogie Shooter]

I read the **************. They report what is actually happening.

???

[RickeyD]

Some of the less fortunate resort to drastic measures. Maybe the PO's should be doing a better job instead of taking kickbacks



Kickbacks ?

[mysunshine1948]

Yes, this happened at 1:30 in the afternoon. Husband golfing. 2 men with clipboards. They forced the woman into the garage, not the dog. The dog kept barking so they killed it. Soooo sad. They are tramatized! This was a villa. Do not open your doors unless you are sure you know who it is!

[Bonny]

Some of the less fortunate resort to drastic measures. Maybe the PO's should be doing a better job instead of taking kickbacks
Who's getting these kickbacks ?

[mysunshine1948]

This is true. The husband was golfing. The woman opened the door. Two men with clipboards. They forced her into the garage, not the dog. The little fog kept barking, so they killed it. So sad. They only took a gun that was in a drawer and left.....probably scared. The woman is tramatized. This was a villa. 1:30 in the afternoon. I hate all these workmen everywhere! Awful!
Maybe security cameras need to be at entrances and pictures taken! The gates are a joke as many you do not need a card and you can just push a button and get in anyway.

[mysunshine1948]

What time of day did this happen? Do we know if the intruder was known to the resident? This is horrible, I certainly hope the woman is safe.

1:30 in the afternoon. Woman is tramatized!

[graciegirl]

Some of the less fortunate resort to drastic measures. Maybe the PO's should be doing a better job instead of taking kickbacks

Many of us, no, most of us were less fortunate than we are today and some were poor, they just didn't know it because everyone was, and that was not and is never an excuse for stealing stuff.

Here is your sheriff up in Marion County. A good fellow, I am told;

MEET THE SHERIFF — Marion County Sheriff's Office (http://www.marionso.com/meet-the-sheriff)

[spring_chicken]

Now we know more and sadly the OP appears to be right about the dog. Betty Crocked, a poster who we don't see often anymore, pointed out that a burglary was when people were not present and a robbery was when people had items taken and the robber and the people were both present... This was described by Law Enforcement as a Burglary...So maybe this poor soul came home to find things gone and her pup beaten to death? I would like to harm those people myself.

I found the thread referred to and think it's better to just post a link than misquote.
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/burglary-vs-robbery-101323/

[RickeyD]

This is true. The husband was golfing. The woman opened the door. Two men with clipboards. They forced her into the garage, not the dog. The little fog kept barking, so they killed it. So sad. They only took a gun that was in a drawer and left.....probably scared. The woman is tramatized. This was a villa. 1:30 in the afternoon. I hate all these workmen everywhere! Awful!

Maybe security cameras need to be at entrances and pictures taken! The gates are a joke as many you do not need a card and you can just push a button and get in anyway.



You hate workmen ? What makes you think men who work commit violent crimes ?

[graciegirl]

Here is what the name we cannot type news is saying as of today at this time;

The death of a dog in the Harlow Villas in the Village of LaBelle is being investigated by the Sumter County Sheriff’s Office.

The incident occurred Thursday afternoon and prompted a temporary security restriction of the villas.

A 64-year-old woman made a 911 call prompting the arrival of law enforcement.

The investigation is ongoing.

[ColdNoMore]

So as the facts to date indicate (as much a dearth of them that there are), the headline(s) should read....



Doggone, woman OK.




:D

[NotGolfer]

This is true. The husband was golfing. The woman opened the door. Two men with clipboards. They forced her into the garage, not the dog. The little fog kept barking, so they killed it. So sad. They only took a gun that was in a drawer and left.....probably scared. The woman is tramatized. This was a villa. 1:30 in the afternoon. I hate all these workmen everywhere! Awful!
Maybe security cameras need to be at entrances and pictures taken! The gates are a joke as many you do not need a card and you can just push a button and get in anyway.

This information was also given to me through a friend whose a friend of the woman. So sad and terrible it happened. I hope they catch the guys!!!! There have been break-ins in T.V. in the past, all were done during the day. Not sure what the back-story of this is re: the perps. They could have been workers, they could have been passing through as well. But it can happen anytime, anywhere. We had it happen in our "quiet" little town, up north. Found out it was students, ditching school---they did it even with the homeowners there (but in another part of the house). As for the gates...they're there NOT for security but to help regulate traffic. The folks who "man" them are there to answer questions and give directions.

[dewilson58]

I would guess the dog is a hero to this lady.

RIP puppy, speedy recovery to the lady.

[RickeyD]

I just wanted to prevent this from happening to other pets.



Perhaps, but unless this lady was wearing a panic button isn't too much that an alarm system could do.

[pickleballfan]

///

[maryanna630]

The information was posted on LaBelle's facebook page and the
Lake Deaton neighborhood forum. If you call the sumter police they will give you the info.....might be a better idea than all this speculating and talking about the victim having a personal issue with the perpetrators or how safe the Villages is or how a neighbor did it because of the dog being noisy etc. I am not going to post about the awful way the dog was killed but maybe this will help people to be aware that all is not paradise here.
PS The perpetrators in the breakin in Pinellas have not been caught.

[rubicon]

Don't comment much, but so many times it amazes me that people really do think we live in a "bubble". Yes, crime is very low, but unfortunately, does happen around the country and the world. There are now how many people living here - well over 100,000!!! Are they all lovely, retired, happy people - probably not, but most of us are. We all came from somewhere else and truthfully, was where you lived whether 2,000 or a gazillion people - was there crime? More than likely yes, and all cities, towns etc. are next to other cities, towns, etc. that may have a bad element. So, bottom line, enjoy our lives here and just be aware that tho it is the best place we could be, it is still not Heaven, where everyone is perfect.

bevlaur: I agree . people seem to have high and unreasonable expectations about this place . Safety and security are a state of mind and if you are the one victimized you can throw the statistics out the window

[Taltarzac725]

bevlaur: I agree . people seem to have high and unreasonable expectations about this place . Safety and security are a state of mind and if you are the one victimized you can throw the statistics out the window

That's true. Statistics do not mean all that much to the victim trying to cope through whatever crime has been committed against them.

I have been there for various crimes like an attempted car-jacking in Nevada in 1984, sexual assault (no touching) around the Summer of 1988 and stalking of me and my girlfriend for about nine months-- at a law school library in a huge university-- in 1989-1990, and a gas lighting attack in Palm Harbor and Tarpon Springs in late March of 2000 over about ten days.

[John_W]

...Maybe security cameras need to be at entrances and pictures taken! The gates are a joke as many you do not need a card and you can just push a button and get in anyway.

I have read many stories on The Villages online newspaper that make reference to gate cameras, and I believe high resolution cameras have been up and running at all the gates since 2014. They are aimed at the rear of the car so the license plate can be seen and at the front so golf carts can be seen. I'm sure the police have been going over video of all the vehicles that entered that morning.

Here's an example of video taken in the front so golf carts can be recognized; Villages Golf Cart Rampage - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJTixaHac3c)


The company responsible for the cameras and video;

Royce Integrated – The Villages – Villages, FL (http://www.royceintegrated.com/case-study-item/the-villages-villages-fl/)

Examples of stories from The Villages online newspaper;

"July 20, 2015 - Community Watch in The Villages pulled video from gate cameras that showed Leonard’s truck entering the Pine Ridge gate at 11:54 a.m. Thursday with nothing in the bed of the truck and leaving at 12:26 p.m. with what appeared to be appliances in the bed of the truck covered with plastic."

To summarize the rest of the story; a Wildwood Police Officer following Leonard's pickup truck with new appliances in the rear, stopped the truck and after checking with Fruitland Park Police, they made the arrest using the video.

Another example from The Villages online newspaper;

"September 12, 2014 - The new surveillance cameras installed at gates in The Villages are being monitored in real time at Community Watch headquarters. The new cameras are connected by fiber optics to Community Watch. The information is monitored on 24 screens by Community Watch personnel. A brief update on the cameras was provided at Friday morning’s meeting"

[Joe.Urso]

this is true, it is in our
village and was in newspaper last week.

[graciegirl]

The information was posted on LaBelle's facebook page and the
Lake Deaton neighborhood forum. If you call the sumter police they will give you the info.....might be a better idea than all this speculating and talking about the victim having a personal issue with the perpetrators or how safe the Villages is or how a neighbor did it because of the dog being noisy etc. I am not going to post about the awful way the dog was killed but maybe this will help people to be aware that all is not paradise here.
PS The perpetrators in the breakin in Pinellas have not been caught.

I think calling and asking the police is a very good idea because I have received information from two property owners in Harlow that there was no break in. One I know well, the other identified himself as retired law enforcement.

And when you do call and ask the Sumter County Sheriff, please tell us, if you can without causing embarrassment to any involved.

[Bogie Shooter]

this is true, it is in our
village and was in newspaper last week.

What is true?
What newspaper?
What Village?

[graciegirl]

this is true, it is in our
village and was in newspaper last week.

Could you copy and paste it please?

[Boudicca]

Good advice, Gracie :)

[Sandtrap328]

It will be very interesting to see what is finally printed about this incident - either in the online news or in The Daily Sun.

You would certainly think that management of both news sources would be reading all of the speculations on this thread and would want to put it to a peaceful closure.

If there was a serious crime like home invasion and locking a person away in their house, the online paper would jump on it - as would Lauren Richie of the Orlando Sentinel.

If it were a dog locked in a hot garage and nothing more, the Daily Sun would like to let residents know there there is nothing to worry about.

Come on, news sources, give us the closure!

[Annie01]

What this guy did to the dog…..we as the villages or the cops….should do the same to him…get arrested is a joke…..they should do the same to "him" enough is enough… i never think like this…but wowwwwww this guy does not deserve anything less.. !!!!!

[ColdNoMore]

What this guy did to the dog…..we as the villages or the cops….should do the same to him…get arrested is a joke…..they should do the same to "him" enough is enough… i never think like this…but wowwwwww this guy does not deserve anything less.. !!!!!

Wow. :ohdear:

While I believe the scum who beat the dog to death (IF it really happened) should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, advocating that they also be beat to death by vigilantism...is just plain sick.

The dog is still an animal, the perp is a human being and as much as some people might wish it weren't so...they are NOT the same. :(

[graciegirl]

Wow. :ohdear:

While I believe the scum who beat the dog to death (IF it really happened) should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, advocating that they also be beat to death by vigilantism...is just plain sick.

The dog is still an animal, the perp is a human being and as much as some people might wish it weren't so...they are NOT the same. :(

No. You are right. The more I know about some people, the better I like dogs.

The truth will out sooner or later.

[Barefoot]

It will be very interesting to see what is finally printed about this incident - either in the online news or in The Daily Sun. You would certainly think that management of both news sources would be reading all of the speculations on this thread and would want to put it to a peaceful closure.
I don't think I've ever heard of a "home invasion" being handled this discreetly.
It seems the Police are taking a guarded approach and releasing very few details to the newspapers.

[Carl in Tampa]

I was taught how to shoot by a retired secret service agent who was on the white house security detail. Home invasions are prevalent in Florida.


Is this retired agent living in The Villages? If so, I probably had lunch with him recently.

If not, I would be interested to know if it was someone who I once worked with. I spent six years at the White House during my 20 year career.

In any event, perhaps we could exchange some information via Private Message to see if we have a friend in common.

[rubicon]

Let the cops do their job. Its obvious that either an investigation is on going or perhaps the circumstances surrounding this event cause the need for discretion. Isn't it enough that these folks have been victimized without all this chatter

[John_W]

In today's Sun newspaper in the local section they have the crime reported. I don't have it in front of me so I'll paraphrase. They described a man white or hispanic who spoke Spanish about 5'4" to 5'6" with a clipboard was at the front door. The woman answered the door and then she fell into the kitchen when a second man appeared. She could not describe the second man. They took the dog to the garage and killed it and nothing was taken. That's about all that was covered other than the date and time.

[ColdNoMore]

In today's Sun newspaper in the local section they have the crime reported. I don't have it in front of me so I'll paraphrase. They described a man white or hispanic who spoke Spanish about 5'4" to 5'6" with a clipboard was at the front door. The woman answered the door and then she fell into the kitchen when a second man appeared. She could not describe the second man. They took the dog to the garage and killed it and nothing was taken. That's about all that was covered other than the date and time.

That's just very strange. :loco:

I'm still guessing that when all is said and done, someone had an issue with the dog and it wouldn't surprise me if it were a neighbor who snapped from the dog's constant barking.

Given what we 'supposedly' know as of now...that's the only thing that makes any sense. :shrug:

[graciegirl]

Here it is, quoted exactly;

Labelle Woman Said Burglar Killed Dog

The Villages

A Village of Labelle resident told Sumter County investigators that two people came into her house Thursday and one killed her dog, a sheriff's deputy captain said Monday.

The 64-year-old woman said the incident occurred between 11 a.m and 1 p.m. after a man came to the door with a clipboard. Sumter County sheriff's Capt. Chris Haworth said.

He was white or Hispanic, spoke Spanish and English, and was between 5-foot-4 and 5-foot-6, Haworth said.

She fell into the kitchen, and a second intruder entered, although she couldn't give a description.

She told detectives both intruders left without taking property.

Leah Schwarting, Daily Sun."

[Duppa]

Here it is, quoted exactly;

Labelle Woman Said Burglar Killed Dog

The Villages

A Village of Labelle resident told Sumter County investigators that two people came into her house Thursday and one killed her dog, a sheriff's deputy captain said Monday.

The 64-year-old woman said the incident occurred between 11 a.m and 1 p.m. after a man came to the door with a clipboard. Sumter County sheriff's Capt. Chris Haworth said.

He was white or Hispanic, spoke Spanish and English, and was between 5-foot-4 and 5-foot-6, Haworth said.

She fell into the kitchen, and a second intruder entered, although she couldn't give a description.

She told detectives both intruders left without taking property.

Leah Schwarting, Daily Sun."

Thanks GG for post. Facts almost always promote clarity despite ourselves... More to come, we suppose.

[mysunshine1948]

This is all so interesting as I read these posts. I live near the woman and it did indeed happen! The doorbell rang. The woman went to the door. Two men, with clipboards. In a villa, the garage door is right next to the front door. They shoved her in the garage. Small, sweet dog was killed with a hammer. 1:30 in the afternoon. They got spooked and only took a gun that was in a drawer and left. Husband was golfing. No, the news will not tell the entire true story. Village watch trucks have been here a lot lately. But that will not help this tramatized woman or bring back her sweet little puppy dog.
Yes, if they are caught they need the same punishment!

[mysunshine1948]

Yes, spoke English and Spanish. One white, one Hispanic.

[Sandtrap328]

This is very reminesent of an incident from 3-4 years ago when a lady said 2 men invaded her house in The Villages. Nothing was taken. It was reported on TOTV several different ways and included her being locked in her bedroom OR being locked in the garage and being forced to swallow either a large quantity of booze or to swallow pills - so she would pass out. I believe here was a dog involved somehow in the incident.

As far as I remember, there was no real closure to that one either with no one caught or fully believed.

[DONKEY10]

Unfortunate incident if true most likely an isolated event. However the Villages is one of the safest places Ive ever lived in. Come to Chicago where its a war zone every weekend. Glad to be here instead.

[graciegirl]

This is very reminesent of an incident from 3-4 years ago when a lady said 2 men invaded her house in The Villages. Nothing was taken. It was reported on TOTV several different ways and included her being locked in her bedroom OR being locked in the garage and being forced to swallow either a large quantity of booze or to swallow pills - so she would pass out. I believe here was a dog involved somehow in the incident.

As far as I remember, there was no real closure to that one either with no one caught or fully believed.

Here it is;

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/home-invasion-update-village-duval-124417/

[JSR22]

Why didn't she open her garage door and run out for help? All of the houses have garage door openers mounted on a garage wall.

[golf2140]

There is more to this story !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[gerryann]

Just creepy that these losers are out there....and now with another gun! Very scary!

[joldnol]

[SIZE="3"]
"September 12, 2014 - The new surveillance cameras installed at gates in The Villages are being monitored in real time at Community Watch headquarters. The new cameras are connected by fiber optics to Community Watch. The information is monitored on 24 screens by Community Watch personnel. A brief update on the cameras was provided at Friday morning’s meeting"

cameras are moot in this case since you can access Labelle without ever passing by a camera

[ColdNoMore]

There is more to this story !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


OK, tell us what you've heard. :popcorn:

[Trish Crocker]

I am 76 years old. I have lived in three states and 12 different neighborhoods in my life. They were all relatively safe. We tried very hard to work and save so we could live in relatively safe neighborhoods. This is one of them. For a place this size, crime is very low. My history may not be your history. No need to call names.

Just one more reason I love you Gracie!!! When are we going to lunch????

[Taltarzac725]

I have lived in some dangerous areas in the past-- not for long though-- and the Villages does seem to be the safest place I have ever lived. I always love it when I return to the Villages from Palm Harbor, DC, or even Ocala or Orlando.

Still the 2nd Amendment is quite alive and thriving in the Villages which is good. Frequent training and knowledge of the law are also extremely important. So is calmness and common sense. Most important though is looking out for one another.

[Joejohnson]

I'll tell you, I carry my 380 cal. in my pocket all the time & if someone barges in on me he's going to have a surprise because as soon as they're standing on my floor space I WILL put him down & I WILL make sure he doesn't leave the inside of my house, walking or crawling, this person will be be on my floor until the police arrive. Now our present govt. wants to take our guns from us so the brave ones don't have a chance to put one of these low life theives down. If we have to wait on the police you could be just like this dog. Sorry I got off on a hate yelling spree, but it just kills me to think the non gun people that have no idea what a gun is other than Joe Doe shoot someone. Police will be worthless by the time they get to your house. Joe Doe might be the intruder pushing his way into YOUR HOUSE!

I also carry, but in no way think the government (whatever that means) is coming for my guns. :loco:

[Taltarzac725]

I also carry, but in no way think the government (whatever that means) is coming for my guns. :loco:

That seems to be a very weird idea out there that is circulating. Cannot think of any policy from a reliable source that would make this a reality.


My 224 613 Project has I hope strengthened the role of survivors/victims in the legal system by empowering them through access to practical knowledge about the rights and services available to them. I started working on this in earnest in January 1991 at great risk and cost to my law librarianship career. Did not start using the numbers 224 and 613 until mid-1993.

There is always ways to improve though. Check your local libraries to see how easy to use any materials they have for survivors/victims are. Keep it simple stupid should be a mantra rather than I need a reference librarian's help to make any sense out of this.

Also look at the Sumter, Marion and Lake County Library Sheriff's web-sites. What do they have for survivors/victims of crimes, prevention of crime, etc. as well as materials to help the mentally ill and those prone to domestic violence? Compare/contrast these with the web-sites of sheriff's offices where you have lived in the past. It could give you some good ideas. Not saying that anyone will actually listen to us but we can try.

You will see that I have been harping on this topic since I got on TOTV in July 2007 and I was fighting with a bunch of lawyers on Findlaw before that from roughly 2002 through 2006 or so. I had an extremely clever and persistent troll on Findlaw almost all that time who hurt me a great deal with respect to getting any where.

My 224 613 Project is international in scope but I do have to pay attention to the place where I have lived since June 2005 as well.

[zonerboy]

Bizarre thread, very, very strange.
16 pages of posts, lots and lots on conflicting information with very little known for sure.
We know the incident happened at the home of a 64 year old woman in Harlow Villas in the Village of LaBelle. The home owners dog was found dead at the scene. The rest seems mostly speculative.
The thread does seem to expose prejudices/biases common to many Villagers: the concealed carry freaks, the koolaid drinkers, the dog lovers, the dog haters, and most commonly the anxiety addicts (those who simply cannot be happy unless they have something to worry about or be afraid of).
It seems there is more to this story than meets the eye.

[zonerboy]

P.S. After reading thru almost 160 posts on this subject, I gotta say something to justify the waste of time.

[Villager Joyce]

Bizarre thread, very, very strange.
16 pages of posts, lots and lots on conflicting information with very little known for sure.
We know the incident happened at the home of a 64 year old woman in Harlow Villas in the Village of LaBelle. The home owners dog was found dead at the scene. The rest seems mostly speculative.
The thread does seem to expose prejudices/biases common to many Villagers: the concealed carry freaks, the koolaid drinkers, the dog lovers, the dog haters, and most commonly the anxiety addicts (those who simply cannot be happy unless they have something to worry about or be afraid of).
It seems there is more to this story than meets the eye.

You missed the people who made jokes. Most or all have been removed. Next tme I'll screen shot so when the posters deny it, I'll PM their post to them.

[bbbbbb]

Consider this on home invasion:
Just imagine that you pick up the paper and you see where a home invasion took place and the police were called and the coroner was also called to pick up two robbers who are clearly dead with bullet holes in their chests.
The next day in the paper, another situation is defined where a robber who is deceased needs to he picked up by the Coroner.
The next day in another paper, two robbers are found dead in a home of an elderly couple and the police are investigating.

Well folks, how long do you think this would continue? Problem solved!!!
We lived in Idaho and Utah, at that time, home invasions and robberies were almost unheard of, except in the obituaries.

[justjim]

This is all so interesting as I read these posts. I live near the woman and it did indeed happen! The doorbell rang. The woman went to the door. Two men, with clipboards. In a villa, the garage door is right next to the front door. They shoved her in the garage. Small, sweet dog was killed with a hammer. 1:30 in the afternoon. They got spooked and only took a gun that was in a drawer and left. Husband was golfing. No, the news will not tell the entire true story. Village watch trucks have been here a lot lately. But that will not help this tramatized woman or bring back her sweet little puppy dog.
Yes, if they are caught they need the same punishment!

Nothing in the Daily Sun about a gun being taken. I would guess the Sun did that on purpose.

[phairmason]

Consider this on home invasion:
Just imagine that you pick up the paper and you see where a home invasion took place and the police were called and the coroner was also called to pick up two robbers who are clearly dead with bullet holes in their chests.
The next day in the paper, another situation is defined where a robber who is deceased needs to he picked up by the Coroner.
The next day in another paper, two robbers are found dead in a home of an elderly couple and the police are investigating.


Whatever happened to "an eye for an eye" (aka appropriate consequences)? Death is not an appropriate consequence for the crime committed--that is more vigilantism (aka stand-your-ground) than justice.


Well folks, how long do you think this would continue? Problem solved!!!
We lived in Idaho and Utah, at that time, home invasions and robberies were almost unheard of, except in the obituaries.

As a native rural Montanan, I believe you are indulging in hyperbole and wishful nostalgia.

[Chi-Town]

Bizarre thread, very, very strange.
16 pages of posts, lots and lots on conflicting information with very little known for sure.
We know the incident happened at the home of a 64 year old woman in Harlow Villas in the Village of LaBelle. The home owners dog was found dead at the scene. The rest seems mostly speculative.
The thread does seem to expose prejudices/biases common to many Villagers: the concealed carry freaks, the koolaid drinkers, the dog lovers, the dog haters, and most commonly the anxiety addicts (those who simply cannot be happy unless they have something to worry about or be afraid of).
It seems there is more to this story than meets the eye.
It will be interesting to see what the next 16 pages bring.