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Duppa
08-17-2016, 01:47 PM
When I was a kid, we had a neighborhood barbershop where every Saturday (or so), I received my butch cut. In between receiving the haircut, I also received some of my first real lessons in life... from the mouths of unfettered men, many of which were salty and world-wary WWII vets. At the shop, populated with men and the occasional mother dropping her son off, just about every topic under the sun was discussed... and without what we'd call today "socially and politically correct" filters. There were no words like racist, sexist, bigot, etc... so no one could be called that or call another that to STOP the conversation; so the flow and exchange of ideas (to the good, bad, or ugly) continued until you left. As I recall, there was one thing that was absolutely forbidden in display, anything that hinted of stupidity. Something could be stupid and therefore a topic of discussion, but the speaker would never be forgiven if they actually said something stupid; being ignorant was okay, but stupid made you a target... like having a toot unexpectedly pass and you being named "tooter" for life.

On TOTV I am often reminded of those wonderful Saturday mornings, where freedom of speech was so masterfully executed. Here in this forum, our forum, where people of my generation who will remember when name calling was a skilled art and Shakespearian class humor was pressed into almost every dialogue with glee; where keeping one's mouth closed was almost always the best policy when in the company of those with real and meaningly opinions. But those older guys (and gals) are fading into history, and it is we, that next generation, the ones who have lived through the passing of those wonderful '1950/1960s' world to what we have today, who stand testament of that time when real conversations were typical not unusual.

We've had some great treads of late, the last being the "Awful Invasion" (now closed). Some 162 comments, ranging all over the map; many clever, many humorous, many serious, many hilarious, many ignorant, but none stupid. We learned our lessons well my TV friends. And like the world we live in this affectionate bubble, you cannot read this sort of thing anywhere else in the world, but here.

So write on, rage on, play on, speak on... I love every one of these treads... not only can you learn something useful amid what appears sometimes silly, but you are also reminded of how very much "we're still kicking"...

dewilson58
08-17-2016, 01:56 PM
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:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

Nucky
08-17-2016, 02:00 PM
When I was a kid, we had a neighborhood barbershop where every Saturday (or so), I received my butch cut. In between receiving the haircut, I also received some of my first real lessons in life... from the mouths of unfettered men, many of which were salty and world-wary WWII vets. At the shop, populated with men and the occasional mother dropping her son off, just about every topic under the sun was discussed... and without what we'd call today "socially and politically correct" filters. There were no words like racist, sexist, bigot, etc... so no one could be called that or call another that to STOP the conversation; so the flow and exchange of ideas (to the good, bad, or ugly) continued until you left. As I recall, there was one thing that was absolutely forbidden in display, anything that hinted of stupidity. Something could be stupid and therefore a topic of discussion, but the speaker would never be forgiven if they actually said something stupid; being ignorant was okay, but stupid made you a target... like having a toot unexpectedly pass and you being named "tooter" for life.

On TOTV I am often reminded of those wonderful Saturday mornings, where freedom of speech was so masterfully executed. Here in this forum, our forum, where people of my generation who will remember when name calling was a skilled art and Shakespearian class humor was pressed into almost every dialogue with glee; where keeping one's mouth closed was almost always the best policy when in the company of those with real and meaningly opinions. But those older guys (and gals) are fading into history, and it is we, that next generation, the ones who have lived through the passing of those wonderful '1950/1960s' world to what we have today.

We've had some great treads of late, the last being the "Awful Invasion" (now closed). Some 162 comments, ranging all over the map; many clever, many humorous, many serious, may hilarious, many ignorant, but none stupid. We learned our lessons well my TV friends. And like the world we live in this affectionate bubble, you cannot read this sort of thing anywhere else in the world, but here.

So write on, rage on, play on, speak on... I love every one of these treads... not only can you learn something useful amid what appears sometimes silly, but you are also reminded of how very much "we're still kicking"...

Very good. I enjoy TOTV very much also. I have decided to pass the political forum and the posting of one other person. I'm here to enjoy just like you. The barber shop was and is important to many in our age bracket for better and different reasons than our youngins. They go to flex their muscle and show off their cars. I go to relax and get a good haircut.

rubicon
08-17-2016, 02:05 PM
the gathering place you refer to ( barber shop) was in my day my mother and father's home. We were required to discuss politics and religion and the only rule was you better be able to support your position. Now you would be warned to stay away from cooking recipes especially a red meat sauce that would get you into trouble.

It is true what you say that political correctness has actually interfered with good communication. Its why this nation can't solve its problems because we don't know how to talk to one another any longer too many trigger warnings micro aggressions and need for safe spaces And, dating/courting a lost art as we need dot.coms to connect.

dewilson58
08-17-2016, 02:08 PM
the gathering place you refer to ( barber shop) was in my day my mother and father's home. We were required to discuss politics and religion and the only rule was you better be able to support your position. Now you would be warned to stay away from cooking recipes especially a red meat sauce that would get you into trouble.

It is true what you say that political correctness has actually interfered with good communication. Its why this nation can't solve its problems because we don't know how to talk to one another any longer too many trigger warnings micro aggressions and need for safe spaces And, dating/courting a lost art as we need dot.coms to connect.

Not being politically correct here...............but I remember the moms' gathering place was the clothes line in the backyards.

:angel:

golfing eagles
08-17-2016, 02:10 PM
the gathering place you refer to ( barber shop) was in my day my mother and father's home. We were required to discuss politics and religion and the only rule was you better be able to support your position. Now you would be warned to stay away from cooking recipes especially a red meat sauce that would get you into trouble.

It is true what you say that political correctness has actually interfered with good communication. Its why this nation can't solve its problems because we don't know how to talk to one another any longer too many trigger warnings micro aggressions and need for safe spaces And, dating/courting a lost art as we need dot.coms to connect.

I think they call it "hooking up", and it is a LOT more explicit than "courting":1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Bonny
08-17-2016, 04:45 PM
I also enjoy TOTV. I think there are a lot of good people on here. I get a lot of info and I also enjoy the humor. I try not to take anything too serious. Life is too short. ;)

Barefoot
08-17-2016, 05:48 PM
Not being politically correct here...............but I remember the moms' gathering place was the clothes line in the backyards.
Humor is always appreciated! :thumbup:

billethkid
08-17-2016, 06:30 PM
Not being politically correct here...............but I remember the moms' gathering place was the clothes line in the backyards.

:angel:

Isn't it noteworthy that to speak correctly of what was in fact the truth could be categorized as possibly politically incorrct.

Another reality of life that is testimony to the fact(s) that political correctness is merely liscence to NOT DO OR SAY the right or correct thing.

Excellent!

I do mean the above as complimentary commentary.

dewilson58
08-17-2016, 06:33 PM
Isn't it noteworthy that to speak correctly of what was in fact the truth could be categorized as possibly politically incorrct.

Another reality of life that is testimony to the fact(s) that political correctness is merely liscence to NOT DO OR SAY the right or correct thing.

Excellent!

I do mean the above as complimentary commentary.

:highfive:

justjim
08-17-2016, 07:54 PM
If you need certain information there is someone on TOTV who can and will give you the information or at least let you know where to find it. I like the fact there are a lot of informed "smart" posters on TOTV.

Schaumburger
08-18-2016, 02:25 AM
If you need certain information there is someone on TOTV who can and will give you the information or at least let you know where to find it. I like the fact there are a lot of informed "smart" posters on TOTV.

:agree: with justjim. If someone is considering moving to The Villages or is a new Villager, this is the place to get information and all sorts of opinions about living in TV.

rubicon
08-18-2016, 04:43 AM
Not being politically correct here...............but I remember the moms' gathering place was the clothes line in the backyards.

:angel:

dewilson you triggered a forgotten memory. My mom had to work because my Dad worked construction and in those days it was feast in good weather months or famine in the winter. so as kids we had to pitch in with household chores. My mother picked up on the fact that the one thing I was reluctant to do was hang clothes in the back yard because I didn't want my friends (the guys) to see me so she smiled at me one day picked up the basket and explained she was aware of my reluctance and why and sent me off to play sandlot ball with the guys...yes i do windows :)

Bay Kid
08-18-2016, 06:04 AM
The people! Being to get help/ideas when needed. Thank you

Villager Joyce
08-18-2016, 06:35 AM
I have posted reviews on service companies that were removed. I very carefully worded the post so I wasn't breaking the rules. I later found out it was a sponsor. If one cannot gently criticize a sponsor, then reviews don't mean much. Prior to that, I used reviews for references.

asianthree
08-18-2016, 06:53 AM
I do get good information from here, but. I find I post less often. I still read the threads, but get tired of the PMs on my comments and the comment " I thought you owned here". So I just post on occasion, it makes life so much simpler.

2BNTV
08-18-2016, 06:11 PM
When I was a kid, we had a neighborhood barbershop where every Saturday (or so), I received my butch cut. In between receiving the haircut, I also received some of my first real lessons in life... from the mouths of unfettered men, many of which were salty and world-wary WWII vets. At the shop, populated with men and the occasional mother dropping her son off, just about every topic under the sun was discussed... and without what we'd call today "socially and politically correct" filters. There were no words like racist, sexist, bigot, etc... so no one could be called that or call another that to STOP the conversation; so the flow and exchange of ideas (to the good, bad, or ugly) continued until you left. As I recall, there was one thing that was absolutely forbidden in display, anything that hinted of stupidity. Something could be stupid and therefore a topic of discussion, but the speaker would never be forgiven if they actually said something stupid; being ignorant was okay, but stupid made you a target... like having a toot unexpectedly pass and you being named "tooter" for life.

On TOTV I am often reminded of those wonderful Saturday mornings, where freedom of speech was so masterfully executed. Here in this forum, our forum, where people of my generation who will remember when name calling was a skilled art and Shakespearian class humor was pressed into almost every dialogue with glee; where keeping one's mouth closed was almost always the best policy when in the company of those with real and meaningly opinions. But those older guys (and gals) are fading into history, and it is we, that next generation, the ones who have lived through the passing of those wonderful '1950/1960s' world to what we have today, who stand testament of that time when real conversations were typical not unusual.

We've had some great treads of late, the last being the "Awful Invasion" (now closed). Some 162 comments, ranging all over the map; many clever, many humorous, many serious, many hilarious, many ignorant, but none stupid. We learned our lessons well my TV friends. And like the world we live in this affectionate bubble, you cannot read this sort of thing anywhere else in the world, but here.

So write on, rage on, play on, speak on... I love every one of these treads... not only can you learn something useful amid what appears sometimes silly, but you are also reminded of how very much "we're still kicking"...

:bigbow: :bigbow: :bigbow:

I remember the gentler times of the 50's where everyone looked out for one another and spent most of their free time talking to their neighbors.

I fondly remember the WWII veterans coming back after the war and their love of life and propensity to have fun.
The Amvets club was a good place to go to blow off steam on Friday night and have a good time. They all were form the neighborhood and helped each other get better jobs in the city and a goodly amount of them married sisters and were brother in laws to each other.

With the media world of today, I think meaningful conversations are fewer but TOTV is a place where one can obtain useful information. I love TV because almost all of it's people are friendly and reminds of those throwback days.

Barefoot
08-18-2016, 06:27 PM
I have posted reviews on service companies that were removed. I very carefully worded the post so I wasn't breaking the rules. I later found out it was a sponsor. If one cannot gently criticize a sponsor, then reviews don't mean much. Prior to that, I used reviews for references.
Joyce, I believe you, but I'm surprised to hear that.
I've posted negatively about a landscaping company who is a sponsor, and the post wasn't removed.

Villager Joyce
08-18-2016, 07:38 PM
Joyce, I believe you, but I'm surprised to hear that.
I've posted negatively about a landscaping company who is a sponsor, and the post wasn't removed.

It's also possible my words were read by others differently than I meant them. My negative experience had to do with a handyman who was a constant no-show.

BobandMary
08-18-2016, 08:17 PM
Gracie. Can't wait to meet her someday

Barefoot
08-18-2016, 10:55 PM
It's also possible my words were read by others differently than I meant them. My negative experience had to do with a handyman who was a constant no-show.
I do think that feedback about service people is one of the most important attributes of TOTV.
I think it's a very valid concern if a handyman is a constant no show for appointments.

BK001
08-19-2016, 02:22 PM
For me it is so much more than just vendor recommendations (although they have proven to be invaluable to us during our first couple of months). It's the instant sense of community without the commitment of time that is required to establish friendships and relationships -- a process that started two years before we ever came here. And now that we are here, we have been busy unpacking, shopping for bedrooms, curtains, comforters, living and dining rooms, lawn and pest maintenance, taking siestas to escape from the midday heat, loving being first time pool owners, shopping for a new car, trying to find palatable non-chain restaurants, etc etc etc. We have not yet invested time in meeting people so TOTV has filled that gap and helped us feel less estranged. Yes, we will pursue the real thing, in time. But first we want to get totally settled and get the house prepared for family who plan on visiting in the next couple of months. Still need to get an office set up, buy a golf cart, find doctors and the list keeps growing.

Thank you TOTV - and all of you who contribute for the virtual comraderie.

Opmoochler
08-19-2016, 04:41 PM
For me it is so much more than just vendor recommendations (although they have proven to be invaluable to us during our first couple of months). It's the instant sense of community without the commitment of time that is required to establish friendships and relationships -- a process that started two years before we ever came here. And now that we are here, we have been busy unpacking, shopping for bedrooms, curtains, comforters, living and dining rooms, lawn and pest maintenance, taking siestas to escape from the midday heat, loving being first time pool owners, shopping for a new car, trying to find palatable non-chain restaurants, etc etc etc. We have not yet invested time in meeting people so TOTV has filled that gap and helped us feel less estranged. Yes, we will pursue the real thing, in time. But first we want to get totally settled and get the house prepared for family who plan on visiting in the next couple of months. Still need to get an office set up, buy a golf cart, find doctors and the list keeps growing.

Thank you TOTV - and all of you who contribute for the virtual comraderie.

Whoa! You're retired! We've been here since Sept and I still have a few bins awaiting attention....I've realized that if I don't get to it today, it'll still be there tomorrow and no one is going to fire me if I don't meet a deadline! I've slowed waaaayyy down and trust I'll live longer as a result. Everything is getting done in due course, but for the first time in my life, Im not sweating the small stuff. One of those bins is full of pictures (photos) that used to hang on our family room walls. Every time I get them all out, I create a mess, which I then throw back in the bin! Oh well....