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Taltarzac725
08-22-2016, 02:57 PM
I look to a day when people will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character. - Martin Luther King, Jr. at BrainyQuote (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/m/martinluth297516.html)
I heard a three-some of twenty somethings outside of Ace Hardware where I was getting propane yell out "White Power!" while I was walking to get the golf cart.
I never expected to hear something so offensive in 2016 in the Villages.
It just angers me after all the Civil Rights struggles of the 1960s that we have in some locations pushed ourselves back to the 1950s in some respects.
These were three Caucasians saying this. I am Caucasian but my late younger brother Chuck's wife Grace is a Jamaican-American and was in the Navy as one of the people who supplies the SEAL Teams. She has been to the Villages on several occasions with her son and did pick up on attitudes against their mixed marriage from both races as did my late younger brother Chuck.
Her other son is the boy who says "Pizza" in the Robin Williams featured movie August Rush. August Rush (2007) - Rotten Tomatoes (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/august_rush/) Robin Williams - Rotten Tomatoes (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/celebrity/robin_williams)
Coal Miner
08-22-2016, 03:23 PM
Thats terrible and uncalled for in this day and age.
Taltarzac725
08-22-2016, 03:28 PM
Thats terrible and uncalled for in this day and age.
Have never seen any of these three twenty somethings before. I think they were just trying to get a rise out of anyone coming by.
RickeyD
08-22-2016, 04:26 PM
I look to a day when people will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character. - Martin Luther King, Jr. at BrainyQuote (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/m/martinluth297516.html)
I heard a three-some of twenty somethings outside of Ace Hardware where I was getting propane yell out "White Power!" while I was walking to get the golf cart.
I never expected to hear something so offensive in 2016 in the Villages.
It just angers me after all the Civil Rights struggles of the 1960s that we have in some locations pushed ourselves back to the 1950s in some respects.
These were three Caucasians saying this. I am Caucasian but my late younger brother Chuck's wife Grace is a Jamaican-American and was in the Navy as one of the people who supplies the SEAL Teams. She has been to the Villages on several occasions with her son and did pick up on attitudes against their mixed marriage from both races as did my late younger brother Chuck.
Her other son is the boy who says "Pizza" in the Robin Williams featured movie August Rush. August Rush (2007) - Rotten Tomatoes (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/august_rush/) Robin Williams - Rotten Tomatoes (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/celebrity/robin_williams)
It is disgusting I agree, but they are within their constitution rights to say these type of things. As both of my WWII Navy veteran parents taught me... "I disagree with what you say but will fight to the death your right to say it."
ColdNoMore
08-22-2016, 04:27 PM
Thats terrible and uncalled for in this day and age.
:agree:...:agree:...:agree:
Miles42
08-22-2016, 06:36 PM
Ok bigotry will never go away. Man is by far the cruelest creature on this planet. Eventually we will cease to exist. Hopefully we do not destroy the planet in the process.
Taltarzac725
08-22-2016, 06:51 PM
It is disgusting I agree, but they are within their constitution rights to say these type of things. As both of my WWII Navy veteran parents taught me... "I disagree with what you say but will fight to the death your right to say it."
Well, they can say that but where they say it could have dire consequences for them. I often think back of the scene in Die Hard with a Vengeance where John McClane has to wear a certain placard in the middle of Harlem. The placard says something much worse than "White Power" and if seen by the wrong gang members would get McClane killed rather quickly.
graciegirl
08-22-2016, 06:54 PM
Ok bigotry will never go away. Man is by far the cruelest creature on this planet. Eventually we will cease to exist. Hopefully we do not destroy the planet in the process.
I have become more aware of cruelty than I ever was before in my entire life since I moved here, which was about at the same time I started reading and posting on public media. Anonymous people can and do say terrible CRUEL, bating, pot stirring things just to anger other people.. There was another attempt at a huge fight on this Forum today. The moddies are all saints if you ask me.
You cannot legislate or direct morality or kindness. You cannot make people be good inside, laws can only make them act a certain way or be punished.
I am not above being sucked in, it is hard to walk away from nasty bating statements that you know are largely incorrect and just meant to make people upset.
And I have made those kinds of statements myself at times. Many of us are anonymous but our values show who we are, loud and clear.
ColdNoMore
08-22-2016, 07:12 PM
Ok bigotry will never go away. Man is by far the cruelest creature on this planet. Eventually we will cease to exist. Hopefully we do not destroy the planet in the process.
I couldn't agree more, except I would use the term 'humans'...instead of just 'man.' :thumbup:
Mikeod
08-22-2016, 07:14 PM
I had a professor in college who would say "Well. that classifies them." when someone was reported to say something really dumb. When I read Tal's post, I was reminded of that. And the saying about it being better to be thought of as stupid than to open your mouth and proving it. I'd probably just laugh AT them.
Maybe these guys went to the Lochte School of Diplomacy. :)
RickeyD
08-22-2016, 07:20 PM
Ok bigotry will never go away. Man is by far the cruelest creature on this planet. Eventually we will cease to exist. Hopefully we do not destroy the planet in the process.
Man is the ONLY cruel creature on this planet.
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RickeyD
08-22-2016, 07:27 PM
Well, they can say that but where they say it could have dire consequences for them. I often think back of the scene in Die Hard with a Vengeance where John McClane has to wear a certain placard in the middle of Harlem. The placard says something much worse than "White Power" and if seen by the wrong gang members would get McClane killed rather quickly.
With respect, I don't think you get it. Using the word "n-I-g-g-e-r" either should not be infringed. It is free speech. Let the white trash spew their hate, no one with intelligence is listening. We do after all live in central Florida.
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asianthree
08-22-2016, 07:39 PM
Sadly have heard remarks in our old neighborhood in TV. And comments about Asians as well. Our grands are Vietnamese. I just consider those who make unintelligent comments are not bright enough to be out on their own.
nicoletta
08-22-2016, 07:53 PM
I agree MILES!! man is the MOST dangerous animal ever on earth.. cruel , pompous, arrogant , controlling, and the most deadly .
graciegirl
08-22-2016, 08:10 PM
Old white republican men seem to dominate here. The times they are a changing.
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"Old, white, Republican men seem to dominate here." Actually, statistically there are more old white Republican women here.
People and stereotypes change over time.
As Farmers Insurance says "We've learned a thing or two, because we've seen a thing or two."
Polar Bear
08-22-2016, 08:18 PM
Humans can also be the kindest, most generous, and helpful creatures on the planet.
You really judge all of humanity to be bad based upon the actions of a small minority? I feel sorry for you.
Yung Dum
08-22-2016, 08:23 PM
With respect, I don't think you get it. Using the word "n-I-g-g-e-r" either should not be infringed. It is free speech. Let the white trash spew their hate, no one with intelligence is listening. We do after all live in central Florida.
Ricky D. --I commend you for your courage to use the word n-i-g-g-e-r in a public forum. I also like the way you presented it, so I copied it.
I believe racism is on the decline, but still has a long way to go. It's one of those things that will never go away. I've never understood why it exists in the first place.
Free speech is what made us what we are today. Let it reign!
Bigben007
08-22-2016, 08:26 PM
I am totally confused. If I heard someone yell "white powder" I would have thought they were talking about some drug, China White or anthrax. Never heard "white Powder" associated with race.
Nucky
08-22-2016, 08:41 PM
:boxing2:Its a good rule to not drink & post!
VApeople
08-22-2016, 08:48 PM
I heard a three-some of twenty somethings outside of Ace Hardware where I was getting propane yell out "White Power!" while I was walking to get the golf cart.
I never expected to hear something so offensive in 2016 in the Villages.
So you never expected young people to yell something that old people might find distasteful?
Bigben007
08-22-2016, 08:53 PM
Ha, ha, ha, just saw where it is white power, not white powder, never mind. Forget post.
graciegirl
08-22-2016, 10:27 PM
Humans can also be the kindest, most generous, and helpful creatures on the planet.
You really judge all of humanity to be bad based upon the actions of a small minority? I feel sorry for you.
That is truly it, Polar Bear. A few posters often misjudge others or fail to see the good.
Taltarzac725
08-22-2016, 10:33 PM
That is truly it, Polar Bear. A few posters use themselves and their values as their yardstick and often misjudge others or fail to see the good.
I have found most people to be good.
People should remember that state action is required to bring in freedom of speech. There is no right to go into Publix for instance and say whatever you want to their customers or employees. They can just ask you to leave their premises as it is a private company.
A cop could probably not stop someone spouting off hateful words in a public parking lot. But we can ignore them or make a note of the occurrence and hope that they grow up. And there might be a disturbing the peace action depending on how long and where this happened in the parking lot.
Spikearoni
08-22-2016, 11:28 PM
maybe they were victims of FFIRMATIVE ACTION.. HELLO ..NO ONE EVER THINKS OF THAT HMMM...sir your qualifications are outstanding but we have to have one of this color and one of that color to show we are diversified and one woman so
Speaking of victims, African-Americans were victims of slavery for 200 years.
RickeyD
08-23-2016, 04:09 AM
I have become more aware of cruelty than I ever was before in my entire life since I moved here, which was about at the same time I started reading and posting on public media. Anonymous people can and do say terrible CRUEL, bating, pot stirring things just to anger other people.. There was another attempt at a huge fight on this Forum today. The moddies are all saints if you ask me.
You cannot legislate or direct morality or kindness. You cannot make people be good inside, laws can only make them act a certain way or be punished.
I am not above being sucked in, it is hard to walk away from nasty bating statements that you know are largely incorrect and just meant to make people upset.
And I have made those kinds of statements myself at times. Many of us are anonymous but our values show who we are, loud and clear.
Bless me father for I have sinned... [emoji1317]
RickeyD
08-23-2016, 04:09 AM
:boxing2:Its a good rule to not drink & post!
Lol
Allegiance
08-23-2016, 04:54 AM
Ha, ha, ha, just saw where it is white power, not white powder, never mind. Forget post.
When I first saw the title my brain read powder as well. I think many villagers brains lack any racism, thank God.
rubicon
08-23-2016, 05:28 AM
I am an old white Republican male and even in the race divided area of west Tennessee and north Mississippi I promoted people of color and females and only because they earned the opportunity and let me be clear there were people under the cover of darkness that did not appreciate my objectivity.
Having said that I am really tired of white guys being sterotyped. I am really tired of all the white guilt that drives policy that harms more than helps and I am tired of this subject of slavery be applied to presentism in this nation. There isn't a person in this country today that owned a slave. And,slavery has been with mankind since the beginning of manknd and no nationality or race has been spared. Until this nation as a whole gets over that fact ,these type of discussions will continue and tempers will flare. Leave the past to the past and move forward. Mourning in all things must come to a close in order for healing to occur.
Keep in mind there are people in society that find it advantageous to keep this race baiting going.
White power, black power, etc are only words unless we give them meaning.
Finally by God's hand or evolution or combination thereof nature saw fit to create different races and with that all have freedoms granted by God/nature Its why so many of us despise totalitarianism
Personal Best Regards:
Taltarzac725
08-23-2016, 07:17 AM
I am an old white Republican male and even in the race divided area of west Tennessee and north Mississippi I promoted people of color and females and only because they earned the opportunity and let me be clear there were people under the cover of darkness that did not appreciate my objectivity.
Having said that I am really tired of white guys being sterotyped. I am really tired of all the white guilt that drives policy that harms more than helps and I am tired of this subject of slavery be applied to presentism in this nation. There isn't a person in this country today that owned a slave. And,slavery has been with mankind since the beginning of manknd and no nationality or race has been spared. Until this nation as a whole gets over that fact ,these type of discussions will continue and tempers will flare. Leave the past to the past and move forward. Mourning in all things must come to a close in order for healing to occur.
Keep in mind there are people in society that find it advantageous to keep this race baiting going.
White power, black power, etc are only words unless we give them meaning.
Finally by God's hand or evolution or combination thereof nature saw fit to create different races and with that all have freedoms granted by God/nature Its why so many of us despise totalitarianism
Personal Best Regards:
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Well said Rubicon. Two of the most racist people I have met in my life were a Tribal Chief's son from the West of Africa who seemed to look down on any African-Americans who came over probably at the hands of some of his ancestors in the slave trade. There were many African tribes that assisted in rounding up slaves from tribes they competed with in some way. Transatlantic Slave Trade and Abolition of slavery | Black History for Schools (http://www.blackhistory4schools.com/slavetrade/) The Tribal Chief's son was in my "Minorities in American Society" course at the University of Nevada, Reno.
Then there was an African-American Law student at the U of MN who I unfortunately befriended who was the biggest mistake of my life in making friends with because of how he treated me behind my back. Often due to how he really felt about Caucasians.
Not using stereotypical thinking does take some intellectual work.
nicoletta
08-23-2016, 07:23 AM
deal I am all butterflys rainbows and unicorns ...
nicoletta
08-23-2016, 07:26 AM
this is like dealing with altruism
Chi-Town
08-23-2016, 07:28 AM
Here are the faces of White Power. Not a pretty sight.
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160823/16a7038a175009da64452c452690d100.jpg
ColdNoMore
08-23-2016, 07:33 AM
Since I realize that it's not like I did anything to earn the good fortune (and single biggest head start) of being born a white male in this country...I thank my lucky stars every day.
I also try to keep in mind....
Everyone is a prisoner of his own experiences. No one can eliminate prejudices - just recognize them.
Edward R. Murrow
This is something that is also very enlightening.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYp5xkqTUjQ
outlaw
08-23-2016, 07:47 AM
With respect, I don't think you get it. Using the word "n-I-g-g-e-r" either should not be infringed. It is free speech. Let the white trash spew their hate, no one with intelligence is listening. We do after all live in central Florida.
Ricky D. --I commend you for your courage to use the word n-i-g-g-e-r in a public forum. I also like the way you presented it, so I copied it.
I believe racism is on the decline, but still has a long way to go. It's one of those things that will never go away. I've never understood why it exists in the first place.
Free speech is what made us what we are today. Let it reign!
The new racism: Black People Racist towards White People? (Social Experiment)
Black People Racist towards White People? (Social Experiment) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjJJqW7Hrgc)
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