Collin Kaepernick

[JGVillages]

SF 49ers QB Collin Kaepernick refused to stand for the National Anthem last night prior to their game with Green Bay.He stated "I am not going to stand up and show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color" A few statistics first. With 1155 players in the NFL 68% are black, while in a distant second 28% are white. NBA 74.4% black to 23.3% white. All of these black players are making hig 6, 7, and eight figures annually. Currently Kaepernick signed a 6 year $114,000,000.00
Contract with the 49ers. With a $12,328,766.00 signing bonus, $61,000,000.00 guarenteed, and an average annual salary of $19,000,000.00. Kaepernick's logic I suppose we could say that the NFL and NBA have evolved into USA entities that "oppresses white people" purely on percentage of employment. What he seems to ignore is the fact that professional sports hires its players on their ability to do the job soley, not as Affirmative Action promotes by evening out the percentages based on race not ability. I will state without a doubt that Kaepernick would not be earning the big bucks without his "OPPERTUNITY" to play professional football in the USA. Oppression will always exist in some form or another but considering his status, his actions and comments are a bit hard to swallow.

[Fredman]

Give me a break... He needs to grow up

[2BNTV]

He's always been a jerk, as he has to work to gain support in his own locker room........... nuff said.

[biker1]

I stopped worrying about what other people did, unless it directly impacted me, a long time ago.

SF 49ers QB Collin Kaepernick refused to stand for the National Anthem last night prior to their game with Green Bay.He stated "I am not going to stand up and show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color" A few statistics first. With 1155 players in the NFL 68% are black, while in a distant second 28% are white. NBA 74.4% black to 23.3% white. All of these black players are making hig 6, 7, and eight figures annually. Currently Kaepernick signed a 6 year $114,000,000.00
Contract with the 49ers. With a $12,328,766.00 signing bonus, $61,000,000.00 guarenteed, and an average annual salary of $19,000,000.00. Kaepernick's logic I suppose we could say that the NFL and NBA have evolved into USA entities that "oppresses white people" purely on percentage of employment. What he seems to ignore is the fact that professional sports hires its players on their ability to do the job soley, not as Affirmative Action promotes by evening out the percentages based on race not ability. I will state without a doubt that Kaepernick would not be earning the big bucks without his "OPPERTUNITY" to play professional football in the USA. Oppression will always exist in some form or another but considering his status, his actions and comments are a bit hard to swallow.

[Taltarzac725]

Colin Kaepernick explains why he sat during national anthem - NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000691077/article/colin-kaepernick-explains-why-he-sat-during-national-anthem)

More on this.

Colin Kaepernick - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_Kaepernick)

A celebrity can make an argument about some cause and how much money he or she makes really has nothing to do with the point they are trying to make. A lawyer can make x amount of money and few people will determine the value of what she says on how much money she makes rather than what kind of argument she makes for his client. Or what a doctor says about some patient.

There are serious problems still with race relations in the United States. America Has a Big Race Problem | US News (http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-03-28/america-has-a-big-race-problem)

[Taltarzac725]

He went to the University of Nevada, Reno like me and also was born in Milwaukee, WI.

Would be more interested though in why he is not playing better of late as a quarterback? Kaepernick, Blaine Gabbert mediocre in 49ers tuneup - NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000691022/article/colin-kaepernick-blaine-gabbert-mediocre-in-49ers-tuneup)

[Rapscallion St Croix]

My new favorite NFL team is whoever is playing San Francisco unless it is Atlanta.

[JGVillages]

Colin Kaepernick explains why he sat during national anthem - NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000691077/article/colin-kaepernick-explains-why-he-sat-during-national-anthem)

More on this.

Colin Kaepernick - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_Kaepernick)

A celebrity can make an argument about some cause and how much money he or she makes really has nothing to do with the point they are trying to make. A lawyer can make x amount of money and few people will determine the value of what she says on how much money she makes rather than what kind of argument she makes for his client. Or what a doctor says about some patient.

There are serious problems still with race relations in the United States. America Has a Big Race Problem | US News (http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-03-28/america-has-a-big-race-problem)

He makes the money only because he is in his so called Oppressed USA. How much does he contribute to work on the problem?

[Rapscallion St Croix]

His teammates do not like him. Maybe the first time the defense blitzes the Niners, a couple of offensive lineman will just step aside and watch. It has happened before.

[kcrazorbackfan]

Here's what I would like to see happen and I really believe it will happen once the season starts; some defense is going to call a blitz and his blockers are going to back off and let the defense paste his a** into the turf. Let's see how oppressed you are when they have to cart your whining, self centered, unAmerican ego off the field, you sniveling little overpaid turd.

[Taltarzac725]

His teammates do not like him. Maybe the first time the defense blitzes the Niners, a couple of offensive lineman will just step aside and watch. It has happened before.

Hope not. He does seem full of himself. I have no idea what kind of charities he supports. That would be interesting.

[NYGUY]

He should be let go. His value as a quarterback and as an American are questionable!!

[Taltarzac725]

He should be let go. His value as a quarterback and as an American are questionable!!

That's kind of a stretch. The man cares about the rights and safety of African-Americans. What's wrong with that!

[Miles42]

Athletic ability is not a cure for stupid.

[kcrazorbackfan]

That's kind of a stretch. The man cares about the rights and safety of African-Americans. What's wrong with that!

You really think that? When he starts letting go of some of his millions and scratching out a check to help the "oppressed" minorities, I'll believe his intentions; he'll never do that and I'll never do that.

[BarryRX]

I detest what he did, but I will defend to the death his right to do it.

[Taltarzac725]

I detest what he did, but I will defend to the death his right to do it.

I do like to hear that. Freedom of speech should apply here in this situation. He will take flak from his teammates and fans and maybe even some of his sponsors but he should be able to take a stand for something he believes in strongly.

And remember the backgrounds of some of these NFL players. Some do come from some rather mean streets.

[Nucky]

Here's what I would like to see happen and I really believe it will happen once the season starts; some defense is going to call a blitz and his blockers are going to back off and let the defense paste his a** into the turf. Let's see how oppressed you are when they have to cart your whining, self centered, unAmerican ego off the field, you sniveling little overpaid turd.

jcrazorbackfan you are on the absolute rite track. I would bench him if I was the coach, I would disregard him if I was his teammate, I would trade him if possible. The De Bartolo family has a hugh problem on their hands now. No doubt this guy has the Free Speech Rite to act like this but don't you think he would realize he is looked up to by many children in a land of gangs and the like. What a damn shame he couldn't voice his concerns another more constructive way.

There are a lot of NFL players who are going to go to work on this clown. Remember he used to kiss the muscle on his arm and act like he was ripping open his jersey to show you his heart when he score a touchdown? I hope he holds that memory. He will be murderlized by his opponents just like in the movie The Fifty Yard Line starring Burt Reynolds. He just spit in the face of every person serving our country. Without football and the money he has nobody would pay attention. He is a low life in my opinion.

[Taltarzac725]

jcrazorbackfan you are on the absolute rite track. I would bench him if I was the coach, I would disregard him if I was his teammate, I would trade him if possible. The De Bartolo family has a hugh problem on their hands now. No doubt this guy has the Free Speech Rite to act like this but don't you think he would realize he is looked up to by many children in a land of gangs and the like. What a damn shame he couldn't voice his concerns another more constructive way.

There are a lot of NFL players who are going to go to work on this clown. Remember he used to kiss the muscle on his arm and act like he was ripping open his jersey to show you his heart when he score a touchdown? I hope he holds that memory. He will be murderlized by his opponents just like in the movie The Fifty Yard Line starring Burt Reynolds. He just spit in the face of every person serving our country. Without football and the money he has nobody would pay attention. He is a low life in my opinion.

Because he did not stand for the National Anthem? I do not see the connection that he is disrespecting our military. Our Congress, President, Supreme Court and the lawyers but not the military. It is the lawyers and bureaucrats who really rule the world.

[Nucky]

Because he did not stand for the National Anthem? I do not see the connection that he is disrespecting our military. Our Congress, President, Supreme Court and the lawyers but not the military. It is the lawyers and bureaucrats who really rule the world.

This is the common mans belief that the Flag and our Country be respected. No need to dissect it any further. This is a forum not a court of law. I represented my belief that he is a very disrespectful individual who truly is not worth my time. If he gets to show his disrespect I wish to show that I do respect all the things that make our country great. Our service people fight for our freedom and the fact that he does not respect the National Anthem and our Flag is unforgivable.

A lawyer's thinking and way of breaking things down and steering their point of view is commendable when they are supporting your case but seem dopey when it is against things that the majority of American hold dear. If this idiot won a Gold medal in the Olympics and sat when the Medals were awarded that would be an epic failure. What the hell is different other that the venue? I rest my case.

[chuckinca]

I wouldn't be surprised to see other athletes or celebrities do the same or similar.

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[Taltarzac725]

This is the common mans belief that the Flag and our Country be respected. No need to dissect it any further. This is a forum not a court of law. I represented my belief that he is a very disrespectful individual who truly is not worth my time. If he gets to show his disrespect I wish to show that I do respect all the things that make our country great. Our service people fight for our freedom and the fact that he does not respect the National Anthem and our Flag is unforgivable.

A lawyer's thinking and way of breaking things down and steering their point of view is commendable when they are supporting your case but seem dopey when it is against things that the majority of American hold dear. If this idiot won a Gold medal in the Olympics and sat when the Medals were awarded that would be an epic failure. What the hell is different other that the venue? I rest my case.

There have been Olympic athletes who have done something like this and usually to voice concern about the treatment of blacks.

I volunteered in a Veterans Hospital for a year in Reno, Nevada and have read a lot of history including military bios and most soldiers fight for the people immediately around them and often dislike the military brass especially if they put them in harm's way often for their own glory.

I do not see most people in the US thinking that not standing at the National Anthem disrespects the military. It does disrespects the powers that be.

I love how Jesse Owens showed up the Nazis at the 1936 Olympics. Any patriotism towards Nazi Germany was something to be sneered at.

[Barefoot]

What a damn shame he couldn't voice his concerns another more constructive way.
:agree:

[The Buckeyes]

When I hear the National Anthem, I think of that flag and how many courageous men and women made the ultimate sacrifice in defending it and what it stands for so, when you disrespect the National Anthem, in a way, you disrespect the people who died for that flag. That ****es me off to no end.

[villagerjack]

Here's what I would like to see happen and I really believe it will happen once the season starts; some defense is going to call a blitz and his blockers are going to back off and let the defense paste his a** into the turf. Let's see how oppressed you are when they have to cart your whining, self centered, unAmerican ego off the field, you sniveling little overpaid turd.n

I like your idea.

[Taltarzac725]

Colin Kaepernick - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_Kaepernick)

We will have to see how this plays out. With violence suggested against this man for voicing an opinion which is his right under the laws of this great land or if he plays football without fear that his offensive line-men do not protect him adequately.

Here's what I would like to see happen and I really believe it will happen once the season starts; some defense is going to call a blitz and his blockers are going to back off and let the defense paste his a** into the turf. Let's see how oppressed you are when they have to cart your whining, self centered, unAmerican ego off the field, you sniveling little overpaid turd.


Signs of the times.

[Taltarzac725]

Just a week ago we saw plenty of African American athletes proud to represent their country in the Olympics, waving the American flag and showing respect during the National Anthem. If they had any negative feelings about our country we never knew. Colin Kaepernick's actions and words, things he can freely express in this country, don't help fix anything, they only fuel the fire.

I do agree with this statement that Colin Kaepernick did show a very unwise choice with where and how he voiced his feelings.

Off of one of my Facebook threads from one of the many news anchors I follow around the United States. The quote above is just one of he comments made by a woman after a news anchor brought up this subject.

There does seem a lot of disgust coming from the police officer Facebook pages as well for Colin Kaepernick's actions from some of the police departments and/or associations which I have on my Facebook account.

[Nucky]

He is a Pinhead. No violence was wished or implied. Football is a game. People are people. Reality is reality. I am taking a guess that his teammates or opponents will straighten him out. I did a little checking last night and found out he didn't even play because of "A Dead Arm". Divine intervention is taking care of this already.

It is possible that a person who claims "Free Speech" and lets this kind of protest slip by under the Umbrella of Free Speech would possibly not cringe at the site of a flag being burned in the USA on our soil. If it's so bad here where you make that kind of money take an alternative route immediately and change the scenery.

I have always felt strongly about respect at all levels. My feelings were heightened five years ago when our son joined the Army. My Brother in law was in the service for 25 years and a nephew was in the Navy. Listen to The American Soldier by Toby Keith and feel the sacrifices that all service people have made for us and our country and the flag and then be patient with me please and explain why its OK for a punk like this to Disrespect the National Anthem and Flag.

[Bonnevie]

It's totally his right. However, I would question what he actually does to help his community. Has he done anything over the years to protest black on black killings? Has he encouraged people involved to talk to police and not protect killers? Does he continually mentor youth in those communities? It is easy to make what really is a meaningless gesture rather than be part of the solution. All this gesture has done is divide people more.

[Rapscallion St Croix]

His problem is that he is too stupid to realize that the people he believes are oppressed have oppressed themselves. The black population has squandered nearly 60 years of coddling, affirmative action, equal opportunity, hand outs, do overs, etc. Can anyone name a black-majority middle-class neighborhood or city that has a functioning school system, a low crime rate, and increasing home values? Anywhere? In the USA, UK, France, Canada, or anywhere in Africa? Anyone? They have one card and damned if they don't know how to play it. Yeah, I said all that.

[l2ridehd]

Interesting discussion and lots of opinions. I for one will never watch a game he plays in again. And if other fans do the same with ticket purchases and television ratings he will be eliminated from the game.

Yes he has the right to do what he did, just as much as I have to never support watching him, products he endorses, or every supporting any team he plays for.

Vote with your wallet and he is done as a player.

[kansasr]

FUN FACT: Most people saying Colin Kaepernick is unpatriotic for criticizing America do so while wearing red ball caps that say America isn't great.

[birdawg]

His problem is that he is too stupid to realize that the people he believes are oppressed have oppressed themselves. The black population has squandered nearly 60 years of coddling, affirmative action, equal opportunity, hand outs, do overs, etc. Can anyone name a black-majority middle-class neighborhood or city that has a functioning school system, a low crime rate, and increasing home values? Anywhere? In the USA, UK, France, Canada, or anywhere in Africa? Anyone? They have one card and damned if they don't know how to play it. Yeah, I said all that.
You hit the nail on the head.

[Taltarzac725]

Colin Kaepernick Continues Charitable Work for Camp Taylor (http://www.49ers.com/news/article-2/Colin-Kaepernick-Continues-Charitable-Work-for-Camp-Taylor/d6b5e354-7990-4d0a-9387-f969245f44e9)

He does work for kids with heart disease which should offset some rather thoughtless action he took on a football field.

[Taltarzac725]

African American Mayors Association (http://ourmayors.org/)

And there is this about African American mayors.

[Taltarzac725]

More power to 49ers' Colin Kaepernick for taking a stand against social injustice (http://www.rgj.com/story/sports/nfl/columnist/bell/2016/08/27/colin-kaepernick-national-anthem-protest-san-francisco-49ers/89485948/)

I wanted to see what the Reno Gazette Journal had to say about Colin Kaepernick. He is a celebrity in Reno because of his football playing with my alma mater the University of Nevada, Reno.

[Allegiance]

America is brainwashed watching near worthless sports and reality TV. Thugs and freaks are glorified. It's sad.

Decent people are more and more the minority.

[golfing eagles]

Sorry, I have no tolerance for this type of "protest", disrespecting our flag, our national anthem and our country.
Go march with BLM, make a speech at a community meeting, read to inner city kids, donate to the NAACP---but NOT THIS, it is not the time or the place.

My wife's ancestors came on the Mayflower. Her great great great great great uncle signed the Declaration of Independence. His cousin died in the Revolution. Lincoln commended her great great great uncle. Her second cousin went down on the Arizona. Her brother posed for the iconic Vietnam era photo of a soldier in silhouette holding a M-16 over his head. My father marched across Europe with Patton. My brother was in Da Nang. Our son has citations from President Bush and the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

No, I have no tolerance for what he did---even if I ever agreed with his point of view, this was no way to express it.

[Taltarzac725]

Sorry, I have no tolerance for this type of "protest", disrespecting our flag, our national anthem and our country.
Go march with BLM, make a speech at a community meeting, read to inner city kids, donate to the NAACP---but NOT THIS, it is not the time or the place.

My wife's ancestors came on the Mayflower. Her great great great great great uncle signed the Declaration of Independence. His cousin died in the Revolution. Lincoln commended her great great great uncle. Her second cousin went down on the Arizona. Her brother posed for the iconic Vietnam era photo of a soldier in silhouette holding a M-16 over his head. My father marched across Europe with Patton. My brother was in Da Nang. Our son has citations from President Bush and the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

No, I have no tolerance for what he did---even if I ever agreed with his point of view, this was no way to express it.

That's quite a background for your wife. My mother's mother side is kind of like that with Stimson, Trueblood and Hopkins family trees going quite far back. My double cousin James did some intensive research when he managed a hotel or something like that near Plymouth MA but could not find the connection to the signer of the Declaration of Independence that supposedly was in our family tree.

It does seem like a bad choice to me for this quarterback to make but I am not an African American who has fought hard to get where I am.

The San Francisco 49ers are a team I have rooted for since the 1970s when we lived in Reno, Nevada.

[golfing eagles]

That's quite a background for your wife. My mother's mother side is kind of like that with Stimson, Trueblood and Hopkins family trees going quite far back. My double cousin James did some intensive research when he managed a hotel or something like that near Plymouth MA but could not find the connection to the signer of the Declaration of Independence that supposedly was in our family tree.

It does seem like a bad choice to me for this quarterback to make but I am not an African American who has fought hard to get where I am.

The San Francisco 49ers are a team I have rooted for since the 1970s when we lived in Reno, Nevada.

I have no problem with free speech, and he certainly had the right to do it, but along with that comes consequences, hopefully not the violent type. There is a big difference in free speech between yelling "fire" in the middle of a desert as opposed to a crowded theater.

[Bonnevie]

My biggest issue is that the gesture did what? helped the dialog on this subject? you can see here and elsewhere it was more polarizing than anything. Something meaningful would be to go into communities and speak to the youth. But that probably isn't as much fun as hosting a golf tournament for Camp Taylor. Big deal you sat down as your big gesture. What does that solve? Offer some solutions. You have a platform to do that--to be a role model. And if people don't like the way police handle things, join the police departments....I hear Dallas and Baton Rouge have openings.

[Taltarzac725]

My biggest issue is that the gesture did what? helped the dialog on this subject? you can see here and elsewhere it was more polarizing than anything. Something meaningful would be to go into communities and speak to the youth. But that probably isn't as much fun as hosting a golf tournament for Camp Taylor. Big deal you sat down as your big gesture. What does that solve? Offer some solutions. You have a platform to do that--to be a role model. And if people don't like the way police handle things, join the police departments....I hear Dallas and Baton Rouge have openings.

That is a very good point. This man is 28 though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_Kaepernick

[Nucky]

That is a very good point. This man is 28 though. Colin Kaepernick - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_Kaepernick)

Your point on Free Speech is understood and I agree. When I Googled this guy I found a man named Glen Coffee who left the 49er's and went into the Army for many different reasons. This is the kind of person we should concentrate on not some fool. Colin was fascinating to watch during a few games a talented guy for sure. But like so many players before him he was just a flash in the pan. His career is circling the drain now.

[kcrazorbackfan]

His problem is that he is too stupid to realize that the people he believes are oppressed have oppressed themselves. The black population has squandered nearly 60 years of coddling, affirmative action, equal opportunity, hand outs, do overs, etc. Can anyone name a black-majority middle-class neighborhood or city that has a functioning school system, a low crime rate, and increasing home values? Anywhere? In the USA, UK, France, Canada, or anywhere in Africa? Anyone? They have one card and damned if they don't know how to play it. Yeah, I said all that.

I really agree with you on this one.

[capecoralbill]

America is brainwashed watching near worthless sports and reality TV. Thugs and freaks are glorified. It's sad.
Decent people are more and more the minority.

I totally agree, I DO NOT WATCH PROFESSIONAL contact SPORTS.
Furthermore, the crooks at Comcast force me to pay a "Regional Sports Fee" of 3.00 per month, huh? what is that??? It is on page 2 if you're wondering.
Decent people are powerless, this country has lost its character. I will be voting for Trump. Stop, my blood pressure is peaking. Have a nice day, Bill

[BobnBev]

African American Mayors Association (http://ourmayors.org/)

And there is this about African American mayors.

Can you imagine the outrage if there was a White Mayors Association?

How come we can have a Black Miss America pageant, and not a "White Miss America pageant?:rant-rave:

[Taltarzac725]

Can you imagine the outrage if there was a White Mayors Association?

How come we can have a Black Miss America pageant, and not a "White Miss America pageant?:rant-rave:

I have no problem with a Black Mayors Association. A white one would sound like something out of the Jim Crow law South. Cannot just ignore 500 years or so of history.

[Ken24]

I've been a 49er fan forever till he's gone no more.

[Taltarzac725]

Colin Kaepernick did something controversial, but it was not un-American - NFL (http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17405859/colin-kaepernick-did-controversial-was-not-un-american-nfl)

A different take on Colin Kaepernick.

African-American athletes are often asked (unfairly, perhaps) to speak out on social issues and, well, Kaepernick just did. If you don't like what the man did or said, that's your prerogative. But telling him that what he said and did was un-American is to lose sight of what it means to be an American.

In some corners of the globe, Kaepernick might face prison time or worse for publicly "disrespecting" his country. Only the quarterback didn't disrespect the United States. While pointing out its fatal flaws -- socioeconomic and justice systems still tilted against African-Americans after all these years -- Kaepernick unwittingly reminded the world that the U.S. is still a pretty damn good place to live.

[Nucky]

I have no problem with a Black Mayors Association. A white one would sound like something out of the Jim Crow law South. Cannot just ignore 500 years or so of history.

Can't have another day of disrespect to Our Country. Can't ignore the feelings of 98% of the citizens who do not think this creep acted in a proper manner. Those who want respect must give or show respect.

Carry on without me. I don't want to be thrown off TOTV forever so I'm done now. My feelings may come out in a less than politically respectful manner.

[JRichm369]

If anyone knows which endorsement sponsors are paying Kaepernick, please post them so that I can practice my constitutional rights and make sure that I do not purchase any of their products.

[Shimpy]

His problem is that he is too stupid to realize that the people he believes are oppressed have oppressed themselves. The black population has squandered nearly 60 years of coddling, affirmative action, equal opportunity, hand outs, do overs, etc. Can anyone name a black-majority middle-class neighborhood or city that has a functioning school system, a low crime rate, and increasing home values? Anywhere? In the USA, UK, France, Canada, or anywhere in Africa? Anyone? They have one card and damned if they don't know how to play it. Yeah, I said all that.

:clap2:

[Shimpy]

Interesting discussion and lots of opinions. I for one will never watch a game he plays in again.

More fun watching them all and hope he gets taken off the field on the cart.

[golf2140]

His problem is that he is too stupid to realize that the people he believes are oppressed have oppressed themselves. The black population has squandered nearly 60 years of coddling, affirmative action, equal opportunity, hand outs, do overs, etc. Can anyone name a black-majority middle-class neighborhood or city that has a functioning school system, a low crime rate, and increasing home values? Anywhere? In the USA, UK, France, Canada, or anywhere in Africa? Anyone? They have one card and damned if they don't know how to play it. Yeah, I said all that.

Amen Well said

[MarkinMd]

It is amazing to me how some will always defend anyone that has anti- American and anti-police views. Kaepernick will probably be cut from the roster simply because of diminishing talent. Now when he is cut he will say its revenge and racial because of his political views. That is total BS.

[rivaridger1]

A ten year old in the body of a twenty eight year old playing professional sports and having not performed very well recently. Temper tantrum and looking for attention.

[Tom L]

No matter how you slice it the jerk is an insult to our Flag, Country and all the veterans that have fought for this country.

[Taltarzac725]

Can't have another day of disrespect to Our Country. Can't ignore the feelings of 98% of the citizens who do not think this creep acted in a proper manner. Those who want respect must give or show respect.

Carry on without me. I don't want to be thrown off TOTV forever so I'm done now. My feelings may come out in a less than politically respectful manner.

98%? Where do you get that number?

49ers' Colin Kaepernick: 'I'll continue to sit' for national anthem (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/49ers/2016/08/28/colin-kaepernick-continue-to-sit-national-anthem-san-francisco/89515810/)

[John_W]

http://anodtothegods.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Cq5Ss2YWcAARrdo.jpg

This is the same player that in 2014 was fined $11,000 for calling Chicago Bear Lamarr Houston the N-word. Pretty soon he'll be picketing himself. Hopefully he'll be cut by the 49ers before the season starts and the Canadians will have to put up with his non-sense when he tries to get a job in the CFL for 1/50 the NFL pay.

[Allegiance]

"Kaepernick was born in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, to Heidi Russo, a 19-year-old woman who was single and destitute at the time. His birth father, an African American, was out of the picture before he was born.[1][2][3] Russo placed her son for adoption with Rick and Teresa Kaepernick, a white couple "

I bet his biological father is finally proud to be an American.

[ColdNoMore]

His problem is that he is too stupid to realize that the people he believes are oppressed have oppressed themselves. The black population has squandered nearly 60 years of coddling, affirmative action, equal opportunity, hand outs, do overs, etc. Can anyone name a black-majority middle-class neighborhood or city that has a functioning school system, a low crime rate, and increasing home values? Anywhere? In the USA, UK, France, Canada, or anywhere in Africa? Anyone? They have one card and damned if they don't know how to play it. Yeah, I said all that.

Unbelievable. :ohdear:

I'm shocked this post is even allowed to stand.

[JGVillages]

Here if some freedom of speech that gets to the point.

49ers Fan Burns Colin Kaepernick (https://youtu.be/-HkMmL4EC7o)

[Taltarzac725]

Unbelievable. :ohdear:

I'm shocked this post is even allowed to stand.

I am surprised by some of the posts on here. They belong more to the 1950s than 2016.

Free speech though is one of the most important rights guaranteed by our Constitution.

[ColdNoMore]

I am surprised by some of the posts on here. They belong more to the 1950s than 2016.

Free speech though is one of the most important rights guaranteed by our Constitution.

My hat is off to you Talt...for being willing to speak up. :ho:

[kcrazorbackfan]

That's quite a background for your wife. My mother's mother side is kind of like that with Stimson, Trueblood and Hopkins family trees going quite far back. My double cousin James did some intensive research when he managed a hotel or something like that near Plymouth MA but could not find the connection to the signer of the Declaration of Independence that supposedly was in our family tree.

It does seem like a bad choice to me for this quarterback to make but I am not an African American who has fought hard to get where I am.

The San Francisco 49ers are a team I have rooted for since the 1970s when we lived in Reno, Nevada.

Do you really think that only black people have fought to get where they're at? Seriously? I am a white person who fought damn hard to get where I am and I am pretty positive that I'm not the only person on TOTV (whatever ethnicity they may be), that has fought, clawed and scratched to have gotten to where they are today.

Root for the 49ers and their "oppressed feeling" QB all you want, that is your right, just like it is my right, and the right of a of a lot more people than you, that hope he gets his un-American "oppressed feeling" a** smashed in the turf; it is going to happen.

[chuckinca]

Who's going to smash him to the turf over this issue in the NFL where about 80% or so of the players are "minorities".

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[manaboutown]

His problem is that he is too stupid to realize that the people he believes are oppressed have oppressed themselves. The black population has squandered nearly 60 years of coddling, affirmative action, equal opportunity, hand outs, do overs, etc. Can anyone name a black-majority middle-class neighborhood or city that has a functioning school system, a low crime rate, and increasing home values? Anywhere? In the USA, UK, France, Canada, or anywhere in Africa? Anyone? They have one card and damned if they don't know how to play it. Yeah, I said all that.

This is the proverbial elephant in the room.

So sad but so true.

[Taltarzac725]

Who's going to smash him to the turf over this issue in the NFL where about 80% or so of the players are "minorities".

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This is what bugs me. Advocating violence against someone who is basically condemning violence against minorities. Granted he seems naive in this belief and the way he has taken this stand but it is a very important part of our American Dream to be able to voice our concerns under the US and State Constitutions. In many countries, some of which we have fought wars against partially for how they condemned independent thinking, it is hard to really speak what is in your heart without facing grace consequences. The same kind of authoritarian thinking is creeping into the US discourse and it scares me quite a bit. If you do not like what I say then I will harm you in some way kind of approach. The same kind of crap you found at the start of Nazism and Mussolini's Italy and Stalin's Russia. And there is nothing remotely Christian about it.

[chuckinca]

After his recent comments the Maine Governor is the one that needs to be smashed to the turf :

Quoting Yahoo News:

"In defending himself from accusations of racism and homophobia on Friday, Maine Gov. Paul LePage made yet another explicitly racist comment — arguing that people of color or of Hispanic origin are “the enemy” and suggesting that they should be shot.

LePage said:

A bad guy is a bad guy. I don’t care what color he is. When you go to war, if you know the enemy, the enemy dresses in red and you dress in blue, you shoot at red. … You shoot at the enemy. You try to identify the enemy. And the enemy right now, the overwhelming majority of people coming in are people of color or people of Hispanic origin."

[goodtimesintv]

This is what bugs me. Advocating violence against someone who is basically condemning violence against minorities. Granted he seems naive in this belief and the way he has taken this stand but it is a very important part of our American Dream to be able to voice our concerns under the US and State Constitutions. In many countries, some of which we have fought wars against partially for how they condemned independent thinking, it is hard to really speak what is in your heart without facing grace consequences. The same kind of authoritarian thinking is creeping into the US discourse and it scares me quite a bit. If you do not like what I say then I will harm you in some way kind of approach. The same kind of crap you found at the start of Nazism and Mussolini's Italy and Stalin's Russia. And there is nothing remotely Christian about it.

I think people are far off base in saying the outcry is to deny him his constitutional rights. Of course he has the right to say what he said......but the problem in THIS situation is that he is an EMPLOYEE of a business entity, and he is there to perform his friggin' JOB for the employer and customers who pay admission and are t.v. viewers. He can say whatever stupid, ignorant insult he wants--against our "government"--but we don't have to like it or put up with it!!

He condemns the "government" for "oppressing" black people, but WE are the government in that we PAY lots of money for palatial venues for guys like him to play in, and WE pay a fortune for Homeland Security, police, fire and more to protect this ingrate from terrorist attacks such as happened in the stadium in Paris last November. Those stadiums full of people are huge targets, and WE pay to protect that INGRATE. We have a right to say what WE think, about what he said about us and our government, too!

[SwampCreature]

Unbelievable. :ohdear:

I'm shocked this post is even allowed to stand.

Welcome to The Villages!

Don't be shocked, this expresses the attitudes of a large number of residents here.

[kcrazorbackfan]

Unbelievable. :ohdear:

I'm shocked this post is even allowed to stand.

Just some white oppressed people standing up for their views....

[ColdNoMore]

Just some white oppressed people standing up for their views....

The single biggest head start any of us get in this country (that we didn't earn).....is being born a white male in the USA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwA_4OamFhI

[ColdNoMore]

Welcome to The Villages!

Don't be shocked, this expresses the attitudes of a large number of residents here.

I understand...and it's not just here.

I spent 40 years in an industry that touted fairness and equality with company propaganda, yet when my upper management peers were alone with me (whereby they mistakenly thought I was somehow like them)...their real racism/prejudice came forth. :(

Funny though, not a single one of them wished they had been born black...I wonder why? :ohdear:

[Bay Kid]

It is just a shame....

[graciegirl]

It is just a shame....

Yes it is. Everyone can now make a success of life here in the U.S.. Everyone. Everyone, if they want to. Life isn't easy, we all have things holding us back. We can whine, or we can win.

If someone is down on you. Show them they are wrong.

[CFrance]

Unbelievable. :ohdear:

I'm shocked this post is even allowed to stand.
... not to mention the post about hoping he'll be taken off the field in a cart.

[rjn5656]

Once a thug, always a thug

[Taltarzac725]

I think people are far off base in saying the outcry is to deny him his constitutional rights. Of course he has the right to say what he said......but the problem in THIS situation is that he is an EMPLOYEE of a business entity, and he is there to perform his friggin' JOB for the employer and customers who pay admission and are t.v. viewers. He can say whatever stupid, ignorant insult he wants--against our "government"--but we don't have to like it or put up with it!!

He condemns the "government" for "oppressing" black people, but WE are the government in that we PAY lots of money for palatial venues for guys like him to play in, and WE pay a fortune for Homeland Security, police, fire and more to protect this ingrate from terrorist attacks such as happened in the stadium in Paris last November. Those stadiums full of people are huge targets, and WE pay to protect that INGRATE. We have a right to say what WE think, about what he said about us and our government, too!

The NFL is an employee that has celebrities who are worshiped by many fans. It is good that some of their stars take stands on something that they believe in and that is protected by the Freedom of Speech Clauses in the US and State Constitutions.

Singers, actors, directors, and athletes in other venues often taken stands on things.

And Home Security protect places like football stadiums because of the threat of terrorists attacking them mainly because of the crowds in them not what some football player does by the act of not standing during a National Anthem.

Colin Kaepernich was trying to condemn the murder of some black men by sometimes corrupt and/or racist police. There is still a lot of racism in the US even in the Villages if you look at the Political Board.

[Taltarzac725]

Once a thug, always a thug

How do you see him as a "thug"? What in his life deserves that label??


Colin Kaepernick - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_Kaepernick)

Kaepernick anthem protest: What are you doing to help any cause? (http://blogs.mercurynews.com/thompson/2016/08/28/49ers-colin-kaepernick-sat-national-anthem-sparked-national-debate-whats-contribution/)

[ColdNoMore]

... not to mention the post about hoping he'll be taken off the field in a cart.

Yep.

Seeing so many coming out of the woodwork to express such hateful feelings...can't help but make decent Americans a little sad. :(

[ColdNoMore]

How do you see him as a "thug"? What in his life deserves that label??

Colin Kaepernick - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_Kaepernick)

Kaepernick anthem protest: What are you doing to help any cause? (http://blogs.mercurynews.com/thompson/2016/08/28/49ers-colin-kaepernick-sat-national-anthem-sparked-national-debate-whats-contribution/)



Because he has black skin...of course. :ohdear:

[DONKEY10]

I am sick of actors and pro athletes voicing their opinion on political and social matters. They need to focus on themselves and their jobs. Without the fans they are nothing and would be working in a carwash otherwise.

[onslowe]

Ah hah, the race card is waved. Surprise, surprise.... End discussions and exchange of ideas and opinions...wave the old race card. Getting very old.

[Taltarzac725]

Ah hah, the race card is waved. Surprise, surprise.... End discussions and exchange of ideas and opinions...wave the old race card. Getting very old.

Back to Veterans. What have people done for Veterans' lately? My 224 613 Project to get practical materials for survivors/victims of crimes in or accessible through libraries of all kinds will help Veterans as I have tried to get practical mental health materials also into libraries or accessible through them. As well as highlighted in law enforcement web-sites. This is a 25.75 year Project at great personal and family cost but something I had to do because of my unique positions to various people and institutions.

Many celebrities including NFL players have helped me with this Project since 1992 or so in some form-- often very creative-- but the fans seldom have done much of anything that I know of anyway.

Looking at your library or sheriff's office web-site does not take much energy.

Nor does not standing for a National Anthem but that probably did more for some black Veterans who have various problems than the many people all over Facebook who are making all kinds of hateful suggestions about Colin Kaepernick a celebrity who is trying to draw attention to a societal problem that DOES include Veterans and has more meaning than waving a flag when it is convenient to do so.

[goodtimesintv]

Oh, please. This ingrate could have made this statement AT a U.S. government venue, like at the Congress or at the White House. Or, he could have done it at the biggest events affecting national government in months: the RNC and DNC Conventions in Cleveland or Philadelphia.

There was at least one flag burning at the Cleveland convention (cops had to say "Hey, Stupid.....you are on fire" when the moron failed to light the flag). Regardless of how ugly and poisonous such events are, it's still, fortunately, a citizen's right to protest.

But that ingrate FB player did not do it there, did he? NO. He did it at this game, without warning or statement at the time, so he could send the message to millions of young black people that they are "oppressed" and the average NFL player, making millions, is "oppressed", too.

The goal was to poison young people and to DIVIDE this society worse than it already is. THAT is not the kind of role model decent Americans want in front of their kids. They want role models like Aaron Rogers, not that ingrate!!

Which NFL Player Gives The Most To Charity? - Look to the Stars (https://www.looktothestars.org/news/14160-which-nfl-player-gives-the-most-to-charity)

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[Taltarzac725]

Oh, please. This ingrate could have made this statement AT a U.S. government venue, like at the Congress or at the White House. He could have done it at the biggest events affecting national government in months: the RNC and DNC Conventions in Cleveland or Philadelphia.

There was at least one flag burning at the Cleveland convention (cops had to say "Hey, Stupid.....you are on fire" when the moron failed to light the flag).

But he did not do it there, did he? NO. He did it at this game, without warning or statement at the time, so he could send the message to millions of young black people that they are "oppressed" and the average NFL player, making millions, is "oppressed", too.

The goal was to poison young people and to DIVIDE this society worse than it already is. THAT is not the kind of role model decent Americans want in front of their kids. They want role models like Aaron Rogers, not that ingrate!!

Actually all he did was not stand up for the National Anthem. He did explain why. And many black people already know that they have problems with some police departments. They do not need Colin Kaepernick to point that out to them. He did remind many people though that there are still problems relating to race in the US. You see them right here on this thread.

Kaepernick did nothing like burning a flag. He just did not stand up.

And I do not see his action as divisive. It is the racists that are making it look that way for some problem they have with a half African American quarterback standing up to show that there are still problems in the US that need to be addressed.

And where did he say he is "oppressed"?

[ColdNoMore]

I am sick of actors and pro athletes voicing their opinion on political and social matters. They need to focus on themselves and their jobs. Without the fans they are nothing and would be working in a carwash otherwise.

So you think Trump should have kept his mouth shut on political matters...before becoming a candidate?

After all, he was nothing but a 'celebrity,' prior to that. :shrug:

I have to disagree.

This great country allows anyone to voice their political opinions...as it should be.

[Taltarzac725]

So you think Trump should have kept his mouth shut on political matters...before becoming a candidate?

After all, he was nothing but a 'celebrity,' prior to that. :shrug:

I have to disagree.

This great country allows anyone to voice their political opinions...as it should be.

It is a great country with many Veterans who have served their country very well. I met a lot of them at the Veterans' Hospital I volunteered at in 1977-1978 in Reno, Nevada and still meet them around the Villages since 2005. They have all kinds of different opinions about all kinds of stuff.

[goodtimesintv]

Actually all he did was not stand up for the National Anthem. He did explain why. And many black people already know that they have problems with some police departments. They do not need Colin Kaepernick to point that out to them. He did remind many people though that there are still problems relating to race in the US. You see them right here on this thread.

Kaepernick did nothing like burning a flag. He just did not stand up.

And I do not see his action as divisive. It is the racists that are making it look that way for some problem they have with a half African American quarterback standing up to show that there are still problems in the US that need to be addressed.

And where did he say he is "oppressed"?

He did not have the GUTS to go to the nearest person with a microphone and say what he was doing and why. He did it like a coward who wants his cake ($119 million salary over 6 years), and eat it, too (be in front of the cameras nationally for the next several hours).

And he DID "explain why" he did it, but not THERE. He did it afterward in the safety of his franchise and NFL handlers who would then pooh pooh his rotten attitude because he is their cash cow!

And since you mention it, "half African American" is half caucasian, and this ingrate was rescued from who knows what kind of life by caucasian adoptive parents.

I don't see him doing anything to raise awareness of ADOPTION of kids who truly are "oppressed", of any race!

And what has he done to his adoptive parents? They probably are in hiding, for fear of THEIR lives.

[Taltarzac725]

He did not have the GUTS to go to the nearest person with a microphone and say what he was doing and why. He did it like a coward who wants his cake ($119 million salary over 6 years), and eat it, too (be in front of the cameras nationally for the next several hours).

And since you mention it, "half African American" is half caucasian, and this ingrate was rescued from who knows what kind of life by caucasian adoptive parents.

I don't see him doing anything to raise awareness of ADOPTION of kids who truly are "oppressed", of any race!

And what has he done to his adoptive parents? They probably are in hiding, for fear of THEIR lives.

I really doubt that they are in hiding. The man has incredible talent at playing football and had a good chance with the right breaks of getting into the NFL no matter what parent raised him.

Why should he go to a microphone at a football stadium?

It amazes me the attacks on this man for his trying to help African Americans in troubling situation with the police which often includes those who are Veterans.

[Polar Bear]

...It amazes me the attacks on this man for his trying to help African Americans in troubling situation with the police which often includes those who are Veterans.
Of course racism still exists in America. But he could have picked a much better way to espouse his beliefs.

He could speak out against the individuals and groups that suppress his race, not against the country that provides such wonderful opportunity to those of all color who seek it.

[ColdNoMore]

It amazes me the attacks on this man for his trying to help African Americans in troubling situation with the police which often includes those who are Veterans.

I personally, have quit being so amazed.


While I don't agree with not standing for our flag and national anthem, I also realize that it is every American's right to not do so...for whatever reason they choose.


That's what makes this country so great. :thumbup:


And yes, that also applies to those who criticize him for it.


However, I'm also not really surprised at the number of posts/people that use dog-whistle racism/bigotry...to attack him for it. :(

[Taltarzac725]

Of course racism still exists in America. But he could have picked a much better way to espouse his beliefs.

He could speak out against the individuals and groups that suppress his race, not against the country that provides such wonderful opportunity to those of all color who seek it.

He was naive about the way he did this. He should have the right though to not stand at a National Anthem and not have so much hate thrown at him. He probably did realize how ugly it would get.

There is a great deal of hate on the Internet.

[Taltarzac725]

I personally, have quit being so amazed.


While I don't agree with not standing for our flag and national anthem, I also realize that it is every American's right to not do so...for whatever reason they choose.


That's what makes this country so great. :thumbup:


And yes, that also applies to those who criticize him for it.


However, I'm also not really surprised at the number of posts/people that use dog-whistle racism/bigotry...to attack him for it. :(

I thought we had become better than the racism you see in the 1950s but it still seems very much alive.

It just seems more acceptable to express this racism.

I have a large number of African-American relatives since my late younger brother married a Jamaiican American about eight years ago. She was in the US Navy and supplied SEALS Teams with materials.

I do talk to them once in a while even though he passed in December 2014. The funeral in Pinellas Park, FL was interesting an unfortunately there were the whites with his wife and her son on one side of the aisle and the rest of the African-American family on the other side with some interracial couple over there as well.

My late younger brother's birthday was on Saturday, August 27, 2016 so it is a little raw for me especially with all the racism I am seeing on TOTV of late and hear every once in a while in the Villages.

[goodtimesintv]

He was naive about the way he did this. He should have the right though to not stand at a National Anthem and not have so much hate thrown at him. He probably did realize how ugly it would get.

There is a great deal of hate on the Internet.

Yeah, and there are also a great number of people on the internet who "hate" actions and demonstrated, spoken, rotten attitude, but not the person who is stupid and ungrateful.

[Taltarzac725]

Yeah, and there are also a great number of people on the internet who "hate" actions and demonstrated, spoken, rotten attitude, but not the person who is stupid and ungrateful.

Why and how is Colin Kaepernick ungrateful? His athletic talent put him on the football field not much of anything else except his family and friends. He does not owe anything to fans and their view of the world. And some of the fans will be going to these games hoping he gets hurt.

He does owe his teammates for their support but we will have to see how that plays out.

[kcrazorbackfan]

I really doubt that they are in hiding. The man has incredible talent at playing football and had a good chance with the right breaks of getting into the NFL no matter what parent raised him.

Why should he go to a microphone at a football stadium?

It amazes me the attacks on this man for his trying to help African Americans in troubling situation with the police which often includes those who are Veterans.


What talent?!?!?! 1st was ok, what were his stats last year? Thought so. Just another "high profile person of no relevance to most people" who wants to take a national stage and have everyone to look at him/her, i.e., Beyoncé, Kanye West, John Legend.....

Just more losers not helping their cause.

[blueash]

I am confused at what the complaint is here. He did not stand for the anthem at the first, second, or third game but it was not noticed until the third one. He did not go to the media to complain or to explain, the media went to him. He did not make a scene, he did not interfere with his teammates or attempt to shout down those who wanted to sing or stand. He did not wave a flag of a country that fought against the USA. He sat quietly.

Just for further understanding. The third stanza of the Star Spangled Banner celebrates the killing of escaped slaves by the US military in the war of 1812. While rarely sung, there it is. Slaves who escaped from their "owners" were recruited by the British to fight and promised their freedom in exchange for military service. Francis Key goes out of his way to cheer for those black men to be killed, but never mentions being thrilled at white British soldiers being killed in the war. It is Key's big ending to his poem By the way, the Brits were good to their promise. All escaped slaves were at the end of the war apparently given the option of Canada or the British islands in the Caribbean.

http://www.pbs.org/wned/war-of-1812/essays/black-soldier-and-sailors-war/

[dewilson58]

This top ignited 100 posts.

Never heard of the guy.

Sometimes the "not so big names", try to get press time. It took three games before anyone noticed.

The sun still came up this morning.

[JGVillages]

I am surprised by some of the posts on here. They belong more to the 1950s than 2016.

Free speech though is one of the most important rights guaranteed by our Constitution.

Freedom of speech is what caused the immediate social media postings of what was called police brutality, but really was not, in Baltimore. The downtown area was looted, burned, and police officers injured attempting to give these thugs their right to free speech and protest. Repeat in Milwaukee recently. Ask the owners of all the businesses destroyed that freedom of speech/protest did not have a part in their demise. We need to protect the right to free speech/protest, but the lawless actions that are occurring frequently cannot be tolerated and must be prosecuted vigorously. Kapernick exercised his "USA" right to freedom of speech, but because of its poor delivery and the wrong venue, he has significantly diluted the message. If you want to exercise you freedom of speech right then you had better understand the potential consequences your actions may cause.

[zonerboy]

Of course Colin K has a right to have any opinion he wishes, and freedom of speech allows him the right to express his opinion. BUT, if he wishes to express his personal opinion, he should use his own venue, NOT that of the NFL.

[Taltarzac725]

I am confused at what the complaint is here. He did not stand for the anthem at the first, second, or third game but it was not noticed until the third one. He did not go to the media to complain or to explain, the media went to him. He did not make a scene, he did not interfere with his teammates or attempt to shout down those who wanted to sing or stand. He did not wave a flag of a country that fought against the USA. He sat quietly.

Just for further understanding. The third stanza of the Star Spangled Banner celebrates the killing of escaped slaves by the US military in the war of 1812. While rarely sung, there it is. Slaves who escaped from their "owners" were recruited by the British to fight and promised their freedom in exchange for military service. Francis Key goes out of his way to cheer for those black men to be killed, but never mentions being thrilled at white British soldiers being killed in the war. It is Key's big ending to his poem By the way, the Brits were good to their promise. All escaped slaves were at the end of the war apparently given the option of Canada or the British islands in the Caribbean.

Black Soldier and Sailors in the War | War of 1812 | PBS (http://www.pbs.org/wned/war-of-1812/essays/black-soldier-and-sailors-war/)

The media want African-American celebrities to get involved and if you watched the Half-Time Show of the last NFL Superbowl so does the NFL and its owners.

Super Bowl 50 halftime show - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_50_halftime_show)

Has anyone forgotten Beyonce and her salute to the Black Panthers in the 50th Super Bowl Halftime Show?

I have heard of this man because I went to the University of Nevada, Reno a long time before him though. Colin Kaepernick - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_Kaepernick) And I am a fan of the 49ers. You will find that many people in the San Francisco Bay area think and act a lot differently from those in the Villages. Kaepernick anthem protest: What are you doing to help any cause? (http://blogs.mercurynews.com/thompson/2016/08/28/49ers-colin-kaepernick-sat-national-anthem-sparked-national-debate-whats-contribution/)

[Taltarzac725]

Of course Colin K has a right to have any opinion he wishes, and freedom of speech allows him the right to express his opinion. BUT, if he wishes to express his personal opinion, he should use his own venue, NOT that of the NFL.

50th Super Bowl Half-Time Show celebrated Black Pride!! The NFL seems a big supporter of the rights of minorities especially if they have huge pay checks.

[Nucky]

This top ignited 100 posts.

Never heard of the guy.

Sometimes the "not so big names", try to get press time. It took three games before anyone noticed.

The sun still came up this morning.

dewilson58, several years ago this guy was a really wonderful player. He seems to be for the minute burning out. I will not try my case here anymore instead I defer to others who are more qualified to voice my feelings better than I can myself....The Mothers of our war heroes who spoke on the news stations this morning who are heartbroken by the loss of their children so a punk like this can act like a fool. The sun came out for us but there will be a cloud following this young man forever.

[robinsdw2]

I personally feel he should take the same journey as those "hollywooders", tax evaders and journalists who say they will leave if Trump is elected and never come back. He has always been an overrated QB and San Fran should cut their losses and kick his "A_ _" to the curb.

[robinsdw2]

Couldn't agree more. The fans spend their money to see the NFL talent, not to have to witness his beliefs.

[Taltarzac725]

49ers' Colin Kaepernick: 'I'll continue to sit' for national anthem (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/49ers/2016/08/28/colin-kaepernick-continue-to-sit-national-anthem-san-francisco/89515810/)

Looks like he plans to stay seated at the NFL games when the National Anthem plays.

[dewilson58]

Standing........

[debow]

Give me a break... He needs to grow up

He's doing this for himself. Nothing else. He's a QB that got lucky and can no longer perform at the higher level. So sad he wants to blame others on his inabilities on others. He needs to retire and put his energy with helping others.

[Taltarzac725]

Standing........

I wonder how this man feels about being used for someone trying to make points in an online argument?

All of the soldiers I have talked to fight for their fellow soldiers. The patriotic men at home might do a lot of flag waving but not the men who have actually suffered a great deal for their country. They still might but how they feel about things will be quite different.

Colin Kaepernick's actions might actually help some vets get better treatment especially those that are African-American. And how vets have been treated by bureaucrats leaves a lot to be desired and these bureaucrats are probably some of the biggest flag wavers.

[Nucky]

I wonder how this man feels about being used for someone trying to make points in an online argument?

All of the soldiers I have talked to fight for their fellow soldiers. The patriotic men at home might do a lot of flag waving but not the men who have actually suffered a great deal for their country. They still might but how they feel about things will be quite different.

Colin Kaepernick's actions might actually help some vets get better treatment especially those that are African-American. And how vets have been treated by bureaucrats leaves a lot to be desired and these bureaucrats are probably some of the biggest flag wavers.

Tal, it doesn't matter if this guy (Colin) is purple. Its his disrespect for the flag that I'm talking about. He is talking about Racial issues.

[virgind]

Hope they fire his a--

[dewilson58]

I wonder how this man feels about being used for someone trying to make points in an online argument?

All of the soldiers I have talked to fight for their fellow soldiers. The patriotic men at home might do a lot of flag waving but not the men who have actually suffered a great deal for their country. They still might but how they feel about things will be quite different.

Colin Kaepernick's actions might actually help some vets get better treatment especially those that are African-American. And how vets have been treated by bureaucrats leaves a lot to be desired and these bureaucrats are probably some of the biggest flag wavers.

Once a Marine, always a Marine.

I would rather see 100 post on this guy standing, than someone sitting.

Semper Fi.

[Rapscallion St Croix]

I wonder how this man feels about being used for someone trying to make points in an online argument?



Colin Kaepernick's actions might actually help some vets get better treatment especially those that are All of the soldiers I have talked to fight for their fellow soldiers. The patriotic men at home might do a lot of flag waving but not the men who have actually suffered a great deal for their country. They still might but how they feel about things will be quite different.African-American. And how vets have been treated by bureaucrats leaves a lot to be desired and these bureaucrats are probably some of the biggest flag wavers.

I served my country for over 30 years, and I have to say this...you have never laced up your combat boots and you have no right to speak for those of us who have.

[RickeyD]

I am confused at what the complaint is here. He did not stand for the anthem at the first, second, or third game but it was not noticed until the third one. He did not go to the media to complain or to explain, the media went to him. He did not make a scene, he did not interfere with his teammates or attempt to shout down those who wanted to sing or stand. He did not wave a flag of a country that fought against the USA. He sat quietly.

Just for further understanding. The third stanza of the Star Spangled Banner celebrates the killing of escaped slaves by the US military in the war of 1812. While rarely sung, there it is. Slaves who escaped from their "owners" were recruited by the British to fight and promised their freedom in exchange for military service. Francis Key goes out of his way to cheer for those black men to be killed, but never mentions being thrilled at white British soldiers being killed in the war. It is Key's big ending to his poem By the way, the Brits were good to their promise. All escaped slaves were at the end of the war apparently given the option of Canada or the British islands in the Caribbean.

Black Soldier and Sailors in the War | War of 1812 | PBS (http://www.pbs.org/wned/war-of-1812/essays/black-soldier-and-sailors-war/)



I agree that his right to protest is protected by the constitution but let's not glorify the British.

[outlaw]

I see the America haters are in TV.

[John_W]

...All of the soldiers I have talked to fight for their fellow soldiers. The patriotic men at home might do a lot of flag waving but not the men who have actually suffered a great deal for their country. They still might but how they feel about things will be quite different...


If Kaepernick were a fellow soldier his comments would be different, if you were a fellow soldier your comments would be different. Since you're not a fellow soldier, don't talk for them or for me. The patriotic men at home and on this board that do the flag waving have earned the right to wave a flag, Kaepernick has not.

Colin Kaepernick signed a 6 year, $114,000,000 contract with the San Francisco 49ers, including a $12,328,766 signing bonus, $61,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $19,000,000. In 2016, Kaepernick will earn a base salary of $11,900,000, a roster bonus of $2,000,000 and a workout bonus of $400,000. Kaepernick has a cap hit of $15,890,753 while his dead money value is $19,697,260.

It's obvious Kaepernick has made millions looking at the contract's figures above, and many more millions than he deserved. He nothing but a mediocre quarterback that let Jacksonville's quarterback bust Blaine Gabbert beat him out. If Kaepernick were really sincere, he would resign and head straight to the ghettos and put his money where his mouth is.

I'm sure the Chiefs fans are a lot happier that Jim Harbaugh didn't like Alex Smith more than Colin Kaepernick. I think coach realized that after he had let Smith go, which might explain why he's gone back to coach college. This whole thing by Kaepernick is nothing but a publicity stunt trying to give new legs to a failing career, and all you defenders have fallen for this stunt.

[Taltarzac725]

Tal, it doesn't matter if this guy (Colin) is purple. Its his disrespect for the flag that I'm talking about. He is talking about Racial issues.

Where does he disrespect the flag? He has said that he disrespects the government that allows certain things to happen.

I do not speak for Veterans but Kaepernick's action of staying seated will help a lot more Veterans than anyone on this board except for me and my 224 613 Project which has helped a lot of Veterans and is something I have been working on for 25.75 years at great personal cost. What kind of things have you done to help your fellow man and woman???

And the media contacted him about his not standing. Get your facts straight.

[Taltarzac725]

I see the America haters are in TV.

I love this country. I also value the US Constitution and its Bill of Rights especially the First Amendment.

[Taltarzac725]

Colin Kaepernick sits for national anthem at 49ers game | The MMQB with Peter King (http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/08/27/colin-kaepernick-national-anthem-san-francisco-49ers-nfl)

Another story on Colin Kaeperneck.

Quarterbacks just don’t speak out on social issues. Like Whitley said, they’re the CEOs, and CEOs in NFL locker rooms aren’t meant to be black or white; their job is to bring in the green. In comments to NFL.com’s Steve Wyche explaining his actions, Kaepernick acknowledged he’d put his professional future at risk in deciding to protest the anthem.
“This is not something that I am going to run by anybody,” he told Wyche. “I am not looking for approval. I have to stand up for people that are oppressed. ... If they take football away, my endorsements from me, I know that I stood up for what is right.”
In the end, for the kid from Turlock, the words and guidance from his parents who so prepared him for life in the spotlight as a black athlete, compelled him to risk his livelihood for what he believed was the truth—that a country which calls itself free has a great deal of unimpeded racial inequality.

Kaeperneck's actions look like they are in the best tradition of others who have stood up against wrongs starting with our Founding Fathers.

I am proud of my fellow University of Nevada, Reno Graduate. Colin Kaepernick - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_Kaepernick)

He graduated in December 2010. I did in December 1980 and May 1981.

[rubicon]

I tried to ignore this post. Exercising one rights under the First Amendment is guarantee to offend someone. However, as much as I disdain the hypocrisy of Kaepernick's position I would defend his right. However bear in mind that I also believe that a baker also has a right to refuse to bake a cake for a homosexual couple based on his/her religious convictions.

As to major sports. I gave them up long ago because of stunts like this and because all a fan is doing is rooting for empty suits. the days when a player was proud to wear the pinstrips of his team are long gone

[Taltarzac725]

I tried to ignore this post. Exercising one rights under the First Amendment is guarantee to offend someone. However, as much as I disdain the hypocrisy of Kaepernick's position I would defend his right. However bear in mind that I also believe that a baker also has a right to refuse to bake a cake for a homosexual couple based on his/her religious convictions.

As to major sports. I gave them up long ago because of stunts like this and because all a fan is doing is rooting for empty suits. the days when a player was proud to wear the pinstrips of his team are long gone

I agree that a baker should be able to refuse to bake a cake for a gay couple unless the cake would also work for a straight couple.

If it has "Gay Pride" on it for instance the baker should not be forced to put this on it.