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Guest
08-28-2016, 03:53 PM
GOV. Chris Christi reduced trump taxes to 7 million. Fox news interviewed Trump. Trump said "Anyone that pays taxes in full is stupid"

Guest
08-28-2016, 04:14 PM
So what?

Now go get the list of deals all the other billionaires get that would make most of us sick.

Doncha know one point does not make a line or a curve?

Guest
08-28-2016, 04:26 PM
So you're saying Trump is unlikely to hand over billions of dollars to Iran. Works for me.

Guest
08-28-2016, 04:28 PM
So you're saying Trump is unlikely to hand over billions of dollars to Iran. Works for me.

This may be the dumbest, most ill informed post of the day...er, week, er month.

Trump's financial ties to Russia and Ukraine will make you welcome what happened with Iran because Trump's soul is with Russia etc.

Guest
08-28-2016, 04:30 PM
Russia, BS

Guest
08-28-2016, 04:38 PM
Stop mixing up Trump business with his personal obligations or old debts including bankruptcy.

One has nothing to do with other.

Guest
08-28-2016, 04:38 PM
Russia, BS

Inside Trump’s financial ties to Russia and his unusual flattery of Vladimir Putin - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-trumps-financial-ties-to-russia-and-his-unusual-flattery-of-vladimir-putin/2016/06/17/dbdcaac8-31a6-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html)

Trump’s mob-linked ex-associate gives $5,400 to campaign - POLITICO (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/donald-trump-russia-felix-sater-227434)

"A Russian-born, mafia-linked businessman whose ties to both Donald Trump and loyalists of Russian President Vladimir Putin have sparked scrutiny, visited Trump Tower last month for undisclosed business, he told POLITICO.
The businessman, Felix Sater, also donated the maximum allowable contribution to Trump’s presidential campaign, according to the campaign’s most recent FEC filing."

Guest
08-28-2016, 04:40 PM
Show some facts from the past year or two.

And not the Post

Guest
08-28-2016, 04:42 PM
Stop mixing up Trump business with his personal obligations or old debts including bankruptcy.

One has nothing to do with other.

His tax returns would help....

So you are ok with a President in debt PERSONALLY and that is what is said to Russia. Indebted to one of our biggest threats.

Even if only business and it is not..

Donald Trump's Many, Many, Many, Many Ties to Russia (http://time.com/4***880/donald-trump-ties-to-russia/)

Guest
08-28-2016, 04:48 PM
Show some facts from the past year or two.

And not the Post

US election: Trump’s Russian riddle - FT.com (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/549ddfaa-5fa5-11e6-b38c-7b39cbb1138a.html#axzz4IfLGmZ00)

These are all current from different sources...its a fact. His ties go way back

Guest
08-28-2016, 04:56 PM
Try and accept this if nothing else he isn't releasing his tax returns.

nor is he required to under the law. at this point what difference does it make?

Want to ask Hillary about the emails, much more important to our national security than any tax return.

I read your silly Post link nothing in there says Trump has anything personally to do with Russia. If I missed please quote it.

you said "President in debt PERSONALLY and that is what is said to Russia. Indebted to one of our biggest threats."

So unless you can quote a personal loan with a bank or person in Russia please stop regurgitating that statement.

Guest
08-28-2016, 05:10 PM
Try and accept this if nothing else he isn't releasing his tax returns.

nor is he required to under the law. at this point what difference does it make?

Want to ask Hillary about the emails, much more important to our national security than any tax return.

I read your silly Post link nothing in there says Trump has anything personally to do with Russia. If I missed please quote it.

you said "President in debt PERSONALLY and that is what is said to Russia. Indebted to one of our biggest threats."

So unless you can quote a personal loan with a bank or person in Russia please stop regurgitating that statement.


Listen, I am not trying to convince you of anything.

If you are just warm and comfy with a President of the US being indebted IN ANYWAY, PERSONL OR FAMILY, OR BUSINESS...and having him take any stance to benefit our country ONLY....so be it. He has a rep for lying, for agreeing with Russia on NATO, etc.

Hey, whatever....does not seem logical to me

Guest
08-28-2016, 05:14 PM
ISIS is a far bigger threat as of today.

Guest
08-28-2016, 05:18 PM
ISIS is a far bigger threat as of today.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/isis-extremists-rooting-trump-win-presidential-election-article-1.2767171

"An analysis of ISIS social media channels and interviews with 12 members — some of whom have since defected — shows extremists strongly back Trump over his Democratic rival Hillary Clinton, according to writers Mara Revkin and Ahmad Mhidi of Foreign Affairs magazine."

Guest
08-28-2016, 05:22 PM
Is Donald Trump Helping ISIS? London Mayor Sadiq Khan Says GOP Nominee Is 'Playing Into The Hands' Of Islamic State (http://www.ibtimes.com/donald-trump-helping-isis-london-mayor-sadiq-khan-says-gop-nominee-playing-hands-2404213)

"Donald Trump has called Barack Obama the "founder of ISIS," but the mayor of London says it is the GOP nominee who is aiding the Islamic State terror group. "

Guest
08-28-2016, 05:24 PM
By the way, lots of others around the world agree, but I am sure you buy into him "knowing more than the generals about ISIS"

Guest
08-28-2016, 06:20 PM
Sorry, but I do not plan to vote for a criminal, Hillary. You could put anyone on the ticket but Hillary and I would vote for them. NEVER HILLARY!

Guest
08-28-2016, 06:21 PM
Sorry, but I do not plan to vote for a criminal, Hillary. You could put anyone on the ticket but Hillary and I would vote for them. NEVER HILLARY!

I get mixed up putting my country first.

Guest
08-28-2016, 07:40 PM
Oh and don't forget Al Gore invented the internet.

Guest
08-28-2016, 07:42 PM
"Many people are saying that when Trump gets into the White House he wants to have it moved to Alaska so he can see his friends in Russia from the Oval Office"

Guest
08-28-2016, 10:39 PM
I get mixed up putting my country first.

If you truly are country first you most certainly wouldn't support Clinton!

Guest
08-29-2016, 04:24 AM
Listen, I am not trying to convince you of anything.

If you are just warm and comfy with a President of the US being indebted IN ANYWAY, PERSONL OR FAMILY, OR BUSINESS...and having him take any stance to benefit our country ONLY....so be it. He has a rep for lying, for agreeing with Russia on NATO, etc.

Hey, whatever....does not seem logical to me

Dear Guest: You may want to check the statistic on just how much debt Obama has created for this nation in his 8 years as it about matches all the debt we accumulated for several of the last presidents, debt by the way that is held by China.

all businesses operate on leverage. Leverage is also called debt. And this issue means bupkus when it comes to voting when are progressives going to come clean about the dishonest deceitful criminal they are pushing to elect. a person in concert with ultra liberal globist Soros who is getting impatient about controlling the world economy. Trump is his natural enemy
And we need to get rid of the FED

Personal Best Regards:

Guest
08-29-2016, 06:01 AM
Dear Guest: You may want to check the statistic on just how much debt Obama has created for this nation in his 8 years as it about matches all the debt we accumulated for several of the last presidents, debt by the way that is held by China.

all businesses operate on leverage. Leverage is also called debt. And this issue means bupkus when it comes to voting when are progressives going to come clean about the dishonest deceitful criminal they are pushing to elect. a person in concert with ultra liberal globist Soros who is getting impatient about controlling the world economy. Trump is his natural enemy
And we need to get rid of the FED

Personal Best Regards:

Well, Obama is a lame duck so not worthy of discussion.

I know how business operate. Usually, as with Romney for example, everything goes into a blind trust (although I don't believe ANY candidate fo the White House ever in history had so many foreign ties and direct links to countries who have an interest in weakening us. In addition, I cannot recall with the amount of foreign debt this man is rumored to have. By the way, Trump has said he does not see any reason for a blind trust...of course he already pitched to NBC a reality show from the WH.

The crying about Obama having "emotional ties" to Kenya, etc sort of pales to this.

Of course, if he did what others do..release his taxes, it would help, but he won't because he knows what is in them.

I despise the Clintons and am more aware than you know of their connections.

On the other hand, researching Trumps associations, Trumps history, Trumps erratic behavior, I consider Donald Trump to be the largest threat facing our country today.

He is just plain uninformed.....disband NATO...isn't that what Russia wants ? Arm S Korea nod Japan with Nukes ? And just recently, during a required briefing, he actually asked why the USA did not use nukes ???

Sorry...I am probably more anti Obama and Clinton than you, but I suggest you do more research and reading on the alternative. It is not scary, but perilous for our future.

Imagine him reacting to world events....a nice calm, reasoned hand...yeh, right.

We haven't even touched on your fed comment...Trump has such huge federal plans I think the direction is just the opposite

Guest
08-29-2016, 06:30 AM
Dear Guest: You may want to check the statistic on just how much debt Obama has created for this nation in his 8 years as it about matches all the debt we accumulated for several of the last presidents, debt by the way that is held by China.

all businesses operate on leverage. Leverage is also called debt. And this issue means bupkus when it comes to voting when are progressives going to come clean about the dishonest deceitful criminal they are pushing to elect. a person in concert with ultra liberal globist Soros who is getting impatient about controlling the world economy. Trump is his natural enemy
And we need to get rid of the FED

Personal Best Regards:

Actually, more debt is held by Japan than China.

But back to the salient point, with that being your apparent inability to understand public (this country's) debt....versus personal (the candidate's) debt.

Having a POTUS whose personal fortune is even somewhat dependent on lenders from countries who are supposed to be our economic, if not militaristic, enemies...should be of grave concern to any true American.

That so many don't care of the potential conflict of interest, truly exhibits a hate toward the 'other party,' that for me personally...is inconceivable. :ohdear:

I guess the only thing Trump hasn't lied about is how he could shoot someone on 5th Ave....and not lose any votes.

Just think about THAT statement for a minute. :oops:


Thank goodness he will lose (to a woman no less :D)...by almost a record margin. :thumbup:



:wave:

CNM

Guest
08-29-2016, 08:13 AM
Actually, more debt is held by Japan than China.

But back to the salient point, with that being your apparent inability to understand public (this country's) debt....versus personal (the candidate's) debt.

Having a POTUS whose personal fortune is even somewhat dependent on lenders from countries who are supposed to be our economic, if not militaristic, enemies...should be of grave concern to any true American.

That so many don't care of the potential conflict of interest, truly exhibits a hate toward the 'other party,' that for me personally...is inconceivable. :ohdear:

I guess the only thing Trump hasn't lied about is how he could shoot someone on 5th Ave....and not lose any votes.

Just think about THAT statement for a minute. :oops:


Thank goodness he will lose (to a woman no less :D)...by almost a record margin. :thumbup:



:wave:

CNM

The list accurate or not does not matter, pales compared to a similar listing for Clinton.

Guest
08-29-2016, 08:25 AM
Actually, more debt is held by Japan than China.

But back to the salient point, with that being your apparent inability to understand public (this country's) debt....versus personal (the candidate's) debt.

Having a POTUS whose personal fortune is even somewhat dependent on lenders from countries who are supposed to be our economic, if not militaristic, enemies...should be of grave concern to any true American.

That so many don't care of the potential conflict of interest, truly exhibits a hate toward the 'other party,' that for me personally...is inconceivable. :ohdear:

I guess the only thing Trump hasn't lied about is how he could shoot someone on 5th Ave....and not lose any votes.

Just think about THAT statement for a minute. :oops:


Thank goodness he will lose (to a woman no less :D)...by almost a record margin. :thumbup:



:wave:

CNM

All I will do is support your post.

I am and have been very very anti Clinton and anti Obama.

I am NOT a supporter of or even neutral on Hillary Clinton. I find her distasteful.

HOWEVER, I agree that HATE of Clinton and HATE of Obama is clouding everyones judgement

Trump presents so many HUGE risks to your country, with no positive values to add.

He will NOT be able to lead our country as you do in a private business. It cannot be done. We have 3 branches of government, and I have yet (although he may have) heard him every say.."along with congress". He cannot change overnight or even over a term trade deals.....it is impossible without world chaos.

ALL, and I mean ALL economists, except those on his payroll say that chaos will come even with any of his economic proposals.

Just know, that a guy like me who finds Clinton, Obama very very distasteful, cannot even bring myself to imagine a world where Donald Trump is the leader.

We should be railing at our political parties and how they left us with such a terrible and vile choice for President.

Guest
08-29-2016, 08:29 AM
But back to the salient point, with that being your apparent inability to understand public (this country's) debt....versus personal (the candidate's) debt.

Having a POTUS whose personal fortune is even somewhat dependent on lenders from countries who are supposed to be our economic, if not militaristic, enemies...should be of grave concern to any true American.

CNM

If that were true every soundbite in the media would be chattering about it, they are not.

Agree?

Guest
08-29-2016, 09:21 AM
If that were true every soundbite in the media would be chattering about it, they are not.

Agree?

Actually the cry for Trump's taxes is based on all of this because there would be able to see the ties.

BUT, lots being written on the subject.

This is more about some of Russia's intention and problems facing our next President

"For the next president of the United States, it is important to take account of two pressing issues: the continuing war in Afghanistan and the political and strategic intentions of Russian president Vladimir Putin.


Articles: Two Problems for the Next President of the United States (http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/08/two_problems_for_the_next_president_of_the_united_ states.html)

The next is more specific to Trump....

"Not since the beginning of the Cold War has a U.S. politician been as fervently pro-Russian as Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump. Just four years after his predecessor Mitt Romney declared Russia to be Washington’s greatest geopolitical threat, Trump has praised President Vladimir Putin as a real leader, “unlike what we have in this country.” Trump has also dismissed reports that Putin has murdered political enemies (“Our country does plenty of killing also,” he told MSNBC), suggested that he would “look into” recognizing Russia’s annexation of the Crimean peninsula and questioned whether the United States should defend NATO allies who don’t pay their way. When Russian hackers stole a cache of emails in July from the Democratic National Committee’s servers, as security analysts have shown, Trump called on “Russia, if you’re listening,” to hack some more.

It’s easy to see why Putin views Trump’s ascendancy as a godsend—and why he mobilized his cyberspies and media assets to his aid, according to security analysts. “Trump advocates isolationist policies and an abdication of U.S. leadership in the world. He cares little about promoting democracy and human rights,” continues McFaul. “A U.S. retreat from global affairs fits precisely with Putin’s international interests.” Putin has been relatively reserved in his public support for Trump—calling him “colorful and talented,” which in Russian comes across as faint praise—but Kremlin-sponsored propaganda outlets like Sputnik and RT (formerly Russia Today) have lavishly praised Trump, tweeted #CrookedHillary memes and supported Trump’s assertion that Barack Obama “founded ISIS,” and Russia’s world-class army of state-sponsored hackers has targeted Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party."



How Vladimir Putin Is Using Donald Trump to Advance Russia's Goals (http://www.newsweek.com/2016/09/09/vladimir-putin-donald-trump-493946.html)

This next is important if you really care.....I realize it is a lot but if you sincerely care about these ties that Trump will not discuss..

"What’s in Project Trump for Putin is clear. But the more puzzling question is how Trump became Putin’s man in Washington. Former CIA Director Mike Morell wrote in The New York Times that Putin “recruited Mr. Trump as an unwitting agent of the Russian Federation” with flattery. But the truth is more nuanced. Trump’s pro-Putinism goes back to at least 2007, when he told CNN that the Russian strongman was doing “a great job” rebuilding Russia. Trump was pushing real estate deals in Moscow at the time and, according to one Moscow-based American businessman who negotiated with him, Trump’s admiration for Putin was rooted in “pure self-interest…. He was looking to make friends and business partners” among Russia’s politically connected elite. “Oligarchs aren't going to do business with anyone who bad-mouths the boss,” explains the real estate developer, who requested anonymity because of his ongoing Russian investments.Trump’s affinity for the Kremlin deepened after he launched his political career in 2014. Trump has surrounded himself with advisers with deep connections to the Putin regime. Trump’s chief foreign policy adviser, Carter Page, once ran the Moscow office of Merrill Lynch and advised the Russian energy giant Gazprom (in which he still owns shares, Page said in March). Page’s company, Global Energy Capital, continues to work with Russian investments—and Sergey Yatsenko, Gazprom’s former deputy chief financial officer, works for GEC as an adviser. Since both companies have suffered grievously from the sanctions the U.S. and EU imposed against Russia over its annexation of Crimea, Page is a passionate advocate of lifting them—something Trump has said he will consider.On July 7, Page took time off from the Trump campaign to give a speech at Moscow’s New Economic School, where he slammed America’s “often hypocritical focus on democratization” and praised Russia’s policy of “noninterference” and “respect” for its neighbors. “Page toed the [Kremlin] party line,” says one senior Moscow expatriate professional who attended Page’s talk. “He’s a believer…. It’s common among Western businesspeople in Russia to be pro-Putin. But it’s rare to hear it from someone at the top of Republican politics.”Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, a Trump adviser and former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, is a regular guest on RT, the Kremlin’s conspiracy-theory-minded English-language propaganda channel. He has refused to say if he’s on RT’s payroll, but last year Flynn flew to Moscow to attend the station’s 10th anniversary gala, where he sat two chairs away from Putin. Michael Caputo, a public relations adviser who helped run Trump’s New York primary campaign, lived in Russia in the 1990s, and Gazprom’s media arm contracted him to improve Putin’s image in the United States. Richard Burt, a former U.S. ambassador to Germany during the 1980s who is known for his strong skepticism of the U.S.’s commitment to its NATO allies (Burt appeared in a panel discussion in April on the topic “Does America Need Allies?”), reportedly helped draft at least one Trump speech where the candidate blasted NATO’s “free rider problem,” according to Politico.Burt is chairman of the advisory council of The National Interest, a publication of the Center for the National Interest, a strongly pro-Russian think tank based in Washington. The CNI has long partnered with the Kremlin-backed Institute for Democracy and Cooperation, a think tank in New York devoted to promoting Moscow’s interests. In May 2014, the two institutions held a joint press conference defending Russia’s position in Ukraine. In April, Trump chose the CNI as the venue for his first major foreign policy speech, and the audience included Russian Ambassador to the U.S. Sergey Kislyak.Trump’s former campaign manager Paul Manafort has longstanding ties to Ukraine’s Kremlin-backed former President Viktor Yanukovych, advising on campaigning for his Party of Regions in the 2006 parliamentary elections and paving the way for Yanukovych’s ascent to prime minister and then the presidency, from which he was ousted in 2014 amid massive pro-EU protests. Ukrainian parliamentarian Serhiy Leshchenko wrote in The Guardian that he had seen “so-called ‘shadow accounting’ documents” that show “a total of $12.7m of payments made to Manafort” by the Party of the Regions, at least $2.2 million of which, according to the AP, was channeled to two prominent Washington lobbying firms in 2012. Manafort denies any wrongdoing, though the very public discussion of his Ukrainian business connections certainly played a part in his being sidelined as Trump’s campaign manager in mid-August.During his time at the helm of the Trump campaign, Manafort played a crucial role in hauling the Republican Party’s official position away from its traditionally anti-Russian stance. According to The Washington Post, Trump campaign staffers gutted a proposed amendment to the Republican Party platform that called for the U.S. to provide “lethal defensive weapons” for Ukraine to defend itself against Russian aggression, defying a strong GOP consensus on the issue.



This is serious stuff and despite what you might think, he will be quizzed during the debate on this and it IS a subject explored but dismissed by Trump and advocates as "being mean to him"

Guest
08-29-2016, 09:25 AM
If that were true every soundbite in the media would be chattering about it, they are not.

Agree?

This is a letter to editor but an informed and concerned letter...

"As a former Naval Intelligence officer, I found it interesting that Trump's chief political adviser Paul, Manafort, was a political adviser to Viktor Yanukovych, the Russia-loving head of Ukraine, for several years.

After the Ukrainian people threw him out for being too close to Russia, Trump's buddy, Russian President Vladimir Putin, invaded Ukraine and took the Crimea away.

With Trump's call for Russian hacking of his opponent's computers and his generally favorable attitude towards things Russian, including support for the Russian-supported regime of Bashar al-Assad in Syria, one becomes suspicious.

What's in it for Trump? Is this why he won't release his taxes?

Warren Buffet offered to release his taxes simultaneously with Trump and compared him to a monkey, but Trump hasn't lashed out at Buffett. Is it because Buffet is bigger and stronger than he is?

In any event, should Trump be elected, get ready to change the state flag to the hammer and sickle."

Trump adviser’s ties raise eyebrows (http://www.knoxnews.com/opinion/letters-to-the-editor/trump-advisers-ties-raise-eyebrows-3afb7c00-30e5-0e83-e053-0100007fbd81-391430121.html)

So, it is being discussed but NOT on Fox or Breitbart or Drudge

Guest
08-29-2016, 09:29 AM
If that were true every soundbite in the media would be chattering about it, they are not.

Agree?

"Her party's candidate, Donald Trump, has been questioning the value of longtime alliances, even suggesting that he would not automatically defend the small Baltic states, which are NATO allies, if they were attacked by Russia. Trump told The New York Times in July he would come to their aid if NATO partners "fulfilled their obligations to us."

The Next President's Inbox: Challenges From Russia, China And Everywhere : NPR (http://www.npr.org/2016/08/29/491481925/the-next-presidents-inbox-challenges-from-russia-china-and-everywhere)

This is how Trump got the nomination. Lots of people who hate Clinton and Obama, understandable, BUT KNOW NOTHING of what is happening and why the person elected is important to the world.

Guest
08-29-2016, 09:45 AM
I found it interesting that Trump's chief political adviser Paul, Manafort, was a political adviser to Viktor Yanukovych, the Russia-loving head of Ukraine, for several years.



NEWS FLASH !!!

He fired his ass

With Trump's call for Russian hacking of his opponent's computers

that was sarcasm, a joke

So, it is being discussed but NOT on Fox or Breitbart or Drudge[/QUOTE]

I watch all of them, not true

Guest
08-29-2016, 09:55 AM
NEWS FLASH !!!

He fired his ass



that was sarcasm, a joke

So, it is being discussed but NOT on Fox or Breitbart or Drudge

I watch all of them, not true[/QUOTE]

This is IN ADDITION to the Manafort thing....

"Trump has surrounded himself with advisers with deep connections to the Putin regime. Trump’s chief foreign policy adviser, Carter Page, once ran the Moscow office of Merrill Lynch and advised the Russian energy giant Gazprom (in which he still owns shares, Page said in March). Page’s company, Global Energy Capital, continues to work with Russian investments—and Sergey Yatsenko, Gazprom’s former deputy chief financial officer, works for GEC as an adviser. Since both companies have suffered grievously from the sanctions the U.S. and EU imposed against Russia over its annexation of Crimea, Page is a passionate advocate of lifting them—something Trump has said he will consider.On July 7, Page took time off from the Trump campaign to give a speech at Moscow’s New Economic School, where he slammed America’s “often hypocritical focus on democratization” and praised Russia’s policy of “noninterference” and “respect” for its neighbors. “Page toed the [Kremlin] party line,” says one senior Moscow expatriate professional who attended Page’s talk. “He’s a believer…. It’s common among Western businesspeople in Russia to be pro-Putin. But it’s rare to hear it from someone at the top of Republican politics.”Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, a Trump adviser and former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, is a regular guest on RT, the Kremlin’s conspiracy-theory-minded English-language propaganda channel. He has refused to say if he’s on RT’s payroll, but last year Flynn flew to Moscow to attend the station’s 10th anniversary gala, where he sat two chairs away from Putin. Michael Caputo, a public relations adviser who helped run Trump’s New York primary campaign, lived in Russia in the 1990s, and Gazprom’s media arm contracted him to improve Putin’s image in the United States. Richard Burt, a former U.S. ambassador to Germany during the 1980s who is known for his strong skepticism of the U.S.’s commitment to its NATO allies (Burt appeared in a panel discussion in April on the topic “Does America Need Allies?”), reportedly helped draft at least one Trump speech where the candidate blasted NATO’s “free rider problem,” according to Politico.Burt is chairman of the advisory council of The National Interest, a publication of the Center for the National Interest, a strongly pro-Russian think tank based in Washington. The CNI has long partnered with the Kremlin-backed Institute for Democracy and Cooperation, a think tank in New York devoted to promoting Moscow’s interests. In May 2014, the two institutions held a joint press conference defending Russia’s position in Ukraine. In April, Trump chose the CNI as the venue for his first major foreign policy speech, and the audience included Russian Ambassador to the U.S. Sergey Kislyak."

How Vladimir Putin Is Using Donald Trump to Advance Russia's Goals (http://www.newsweek.com/2016/09/09/vladimir-putin-donald-trump-493946.html)

Guest
08-29-2016, 10:02 AM
And while you may be in denial about TRUMP, keep stuff like this in mind as you want to give him the keys to the kingdom...

"A Russian-born, mafia-linked businessman whose ties to both Donald Trump and loyalists of Russian President Vladimir Putin have sparked scrutiny, visited Trump Tower last month for undisclosed business, he told POLITICO.
The businessman, Felix Sater, also donated the maximum allowable contribution to Trump’s presidential campaign, according to the campaign’s most recent FEC filing.

Sater, whose firm co-developed a major Trump project in New York and who was later hired by Trump to drum up business in the former USSR, has said that he closely associated with Trump and his family, while Trump has suggested he wouldn’t even recognize Sater."

Trump’s mob-linked ex-associate gives $5,400 to campaign - POLITICO (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/donald-trump-russia-felix-sater-227434)

I love this one...." has said that he closely associated with Trump and his family, while Trump has suggested he wouldn’t even recognize Sater."


He just lies so blatantly and easily

Guest
08-29-2016, 10:04 AM
NEWS FLASH !!!

He fired his ass



that was sarcasm, a joke

So, it is being discussed but NOT on Fox or Breitbart or Drudge


This is typical of a Trump supporter.....I have no doubt that he was being sarcastic.....

BUT what he and his supporters do not get....

WORDS DO HAVE CONSEQUENCES, especially if you are in his position.

Stock market can plunge or rise based on comments from the Oval office....alliances can be made or squandered by comments OR TWEETS from the oval office

Guest
08-29-2016, 10:16 AM
Sorry, but I do not plan to vote for a criminal, Hillary. You could put anyone on the ticket but Hillary and I would vote for them. NEVER HILLARY!

Ok, Liza. Stop beating a dead horse. We're tired of your harping.

chilout

Guest
08-29-2016, 11:19 AM
WORDS DO HAVE CONSEQUENCES,

Do you mean like I turned over all emails,

I used one devise

Guest
08-29-2016, 11:52 AM
Do you mean like I turned over all emails,

I used one devise

YES....absolutely and she is paying the consequences.

You changed the subject, as always but expected.

What you should do is wake up and do some reading (beyond Briebart, National Enquire and Drudge).

Of course those "sources" do not discuss the world, or the nation or problems or issues.

They have one single job and truth never has mattered to any of them

Guest
08-29-2016, 03:29 PM
Wow, a businessman that had deals with foreigners!! Go figure!

Guest
08-29-2016, 03:30 PM
30 million in back taxes? Pocket change. Buffet owes a billion or two and the libtards don't think anything of it. Oh, but he pays less taxes than his secretary...ha,ha, ha...

Guest
08-29-2016, 03:35 PM
30 million in back taxes? Pocket change. Buffet owes a billion or two and the libtards don't think anything of it. Oh, but he pays less taxes than his secretary...ha,ha, ha...

You seem sincere in thinking that the dismay over Trump not releasing his tax returns has to do with whether he has back taxes.

Buffet money FAR AND AWAY exceeds anything Trump can imagine and he released his and was also under audit.

Associations, donations, FINANCING by whom is what is wanted....he hides it all.

Guest
08-29-2016, 04:07 PM
You seem sincere in thinking that the dismay over Trump not releasing his tax returns has to do with whether he has back taxes.

Buffet money FAR AND AWAY exceeds anything Trump can imagine and he released his and was also under audit.

Associations, donations, FINANCING by whom is what is wanted....he hides it all.

Trump turned in his Tax return to IRS. I wonder what you think that you can do with his tax paperwork that they can't do. I think you protest too much and have so little dirt on Trump as compared to Hillary that you are having a very hard time justifying you support for Hillary. It's kind of disingenuous to support a criminal like the Clintons and then cast stones at Trump.

Guest
08-29-2016, 04:18 PM
Trump turned in his Tax return to IRS. I wonder what you think that you can do with his tax paperwork that they can't do. I think you protest too much and have so little dirt on Trump as compared to Hillary that you are having a very hard time justifying you support for Hillary. It's kind of disingenuous to support a criminal like the Clintons and then cast stones at Trump.

wow....all I can say....WOW

Are you sincerely that naive ? If looking for dirt on Trump was the goal, THAT IS A PIECE OF CAKE.

ALSO, you need to know that I do not and never would or could support Hillary Clinton.

My problem is as a life long GOPer, the nominee of my party is perhaps the least character person I can think of. I am not going to go through the laundry list, because I can tell you do not care, but I assure you, guarantee you with 100% assurance that this man is doing a con on you and many other people.

This is not a television show...this is real life. This is not something where the series ends in November. This is a committment you are making to a man who even his own party turns their back on...who allies turn their back on....who speaks evil of anyone who does not agree with him....who is so mean spirited that without issues involved, he mocks a war hero, makes fun of a crippled reporter, takes apaart a fellow american who is a judge because his parents were not born here...who history of hate beginning with blacks, then jews and indians is unparalled an it is all on tape.

This is not a show that you can walk away from......this is real life and obvious you have done NO reading except what you can find to go after Clinton. A selection founded on HATE is NEVER a good one.

You support a man who recently in a briefing actually asked why we do not use nukes......who actually said we should arm two more countries, at least..S Korea and Japan with nukes to save money...this man actually said this..this is a man who all the ISIS websites are excited to have elected,who is supported by every hate group in the country, who respects Putin more than our heros and says so.

Guest
08-29-2016, 04:28 PM
You seem sincere in thinking that the dismay over Trump not releasing his tax returns has to do with whether he has back taxes.

Buffet money FAR AND AWAY exceeds anything Trump can imagine and he released his and was also under audit.

Associations, donations, FINANCING by whom is what is wanted....he hides it all.

He is well within his right and within the law not to disclose them.

Not that I agree.

Guest
08-29-2016, 04:42 PM
"On one hand, Clinton. On the other hand, Trump. That’s the unfortunate choice facing voters in a system rigged heavily in favor of the two major parties.

But there’s no equivalence.

On one hand, Benghazi and email and lies.

On the other hand, mendacity, bigotry, bullyism, narcissism, sexism, selfishness, sociopathology, and a lack of understanding or interest in public policy—all to extremes unseen in modern presidential politics."

Donald Trump Should Never Be President - The Atlantic (http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/08/trump-should-not-be-president/497858/)

"On the other hand, Trump shouldn’t be president."

There are so many of you who think that knowing what a terrible threat is to our country Trump happens to be is automatic support for Clinton and refuse to accept that this man will, if possible destroy us.

Guest
08-29-2016, 04:50 PM
should-not-be-president/497858/]refuse to accept that this man will, if possible destroy us.


come now really, gime a break with the dramatics.

Guest
08-29-2016, 04:56 PM
wow....all I can say....WOW

Are you sincerely that naive ? If looking for dirt on Trump was the goal, THAT IS A PIECE OF CAKE.

ALSO, you need to know that I do not and never would or could support Hillary Clinton.

My problem is as a life long GOPer, the nominee of my party is perhaps the least character person I can think of. I am not going to go through the laundry list, because I can tell you do not care, but I assure you, guarantee you with 100% assurance that this man is doing a con on you and many other people.

This is not a television show...this is real life. This is not something where the series ends in November. This is a committment you are making to a man who even his own party turns their back on...who allies turn their back on....who speaks evil of anyone who does not agree with him....who is so mean spirited that without issues involved, he mocks a war hero, makes fun of a crippled reporter, takes apaart a fellow american who is a judge because his parents were not born here...who history of hate beginning with blacks, then jews and indians is unparalled an it is all on tape.

This is not a show that you can walk away from......this is real life and obvious you have done NO reading except what you can find to go after Clinton. A selection founded on HATE is NEVER a good one.

You support a man who recently in a briefing actually asked why we do not use nukes......who actually said we should arm two more countries, at least..S Korea and Japan with nukes to save money...this man actually said this..this is a man who all the ISIS websites are excited to have elected,who is supported by every hate group in the country, who respects Putin more than our heros and says so.

Right, so who are you going to vote for? Trump had a record amount of votes for the primary. I guess there are those in America that support him and his views. I was going to say that I am sorry that he is not PC, but I'm not. We are seeing way too much PC to the point of it infringing on the average American's rights to Free Speech. I'm not worried about Trump doing anything that will hurt America. I am worried about the liberals FAILING to anything and that would or could cause great harm to America. I consider Obama to be the worst president in my history, and Hillary wants to further his agenda. Therefore, there is no way in the world that she would get my vote.

Trump will get my vote.

Guest
08-29-2016, 04:56 PM
Oh, but he pays less taxes than his secretary...ha,ha, ha...

The perfect example, of why it is all but impossible... to actually 'debate' ignorant people. :oops:

Buffet NEVER said that.

Hint; Educate yourself on the term 'effective tax rate.'. :ohdear:



:wave:

CNM

Guest
08-29-2016, 05:08 PM
Right, so who are you going to vote for? Trump had a record amount of votes for the primary. I guess there are those in America that support him and his views. I was going to say that I am sorry that he is not PC, but I'm not. We are seeing way too much PC to the point of it infringing on the average American's rights to Free Speech. I'm not worried about Trump doing anything that will hurt America. I am worried about the liberals FAILING to anything and that would or could cause great harm to America. I consider Obama to be the worst president in my history, and Hillary wants to further his agenda. Therefore, there is no way in the world that she would get my vote.

Trump will get my vote.

I will not vote on the Presidential line.

I will vote on the down ticket.

Your use of labels and concern on PC tells me, you do not actually see where this is going for our country.

I speak anti Trump because I know emphatically he will destroy our country. This is not a reality game and after the election, we must continue...it is not the end of some tv series led by a man who not only does not have a clue, he could care less.

No...I will note vote for President, but surely the down ticket.

Guest
08-29-2016, 05:24 PM
The perfect example, of why it is all but impossible... to actually 'debate' ignorant people. :oops:

Buffet NEVER said that.

Hint; Educate yourself

CNM

Don't call people ignorant, who the hell do you think you are.

CNM, you are the one that needs education, check your facts buddy.

I think were tired of your fact less - feckless posts

#5 – Warren Buffett's Federal Tax Rate Is Less than His Secretary’s | Foundation for Economic Education (https://fee.org/articles/5-warren-buffetts-federal-tax-rate-is-less-than-his-secretarys/)

:Screen_of_Death:

Guest
08-29-2016, 05:26 PM
he will destroy our country.

And just how can one man do that?

Guest
08-29-2016, 06:03 PM
His tax returns would help....

So you are ok with a President in debt PERSONALLY and that is what is said to Russia. Indebted to one of our biggest threats.

Even if only business and it is not..

Donald Trump's Many, Many, Many, Many Ties to Russia (http://time.com/4***880/donald-trump-ties-to-russia/)

I will bet you voted for OBAMA and I will bet you will vote for HILLARY in-spite of all the garbage the CLINTON GANG has been involved in. RE: ties to Russia-why is that a bad thing. PERHAPS, WE CAN IN A TRUMP PRESIDENCY ESTABLISH A FAR BETTER RELATIONSHIP. Are you aware that with the BP oil spill the RUSSIANS offered OBAMA help for a special ship they had for underwater operations.
OBAMA-A COLLEGE PROFESSOR WHO DOES NOT KNOW ........ABOUT OIL OR UNDERWATER OPERATIONS REFUSED THE HELP-REASON THE MAN IS INCAPABLE OF ADMITTING HE DOES NOT KNOW WHAT HE IS DOING.
I guess this is where I must offer a counter point-THE CLINTON FOUNDATION HAS TAKEN MONEY FROM THE MIDDLE EAST, YUP, THE KKK, AND A LARGE LIST OF UNSAVORY PEOPLE. Hilly that bitc. even said if she is elected she will need to change the guidelines for who they will take donations from-THAT IS A CONFIRMATION THAT THE CLINTONS NOT ONLY ARE DIRTBAGS BUT HILLY KNOWS IT.

Guest
08-29-2016, 06:31 PM
And just how can one man do that?

1. He has already torn the GOP into pieces, and only time will tell if it is ever repaired. This will strengthen the Democratic Party for a long long time, which includes all the congressional seats this election and in two years. Since he got the nomination, more have left him than joined him. This is. Big deal unless you are a Democrat.

2. As much as the country was divided, it is being divided even further. His history, not only words but actions, have pushed blacks and Hispanics further away from not only the GOP but simply being involved. The hate is palpable as in the recent events in schools where children were shouting Trump slogans to minorities. This includes the Jewish and Muslim population. He pretty much has insulted and threatened everyone EXCEPT for those that agree with him. He has the support of very single hate group in the country.

3. He has set a few new low bars for the future. One is the mean spirited language where he demeans anyone who disagrees with him, and labels them usually along the lines of race and ethnicity. He is the first to pull press credentials dependent on "how nice you are to him". If you can imagine this attitude in the Presidency....no chance of compromise because he will PUBLICLY demean you.

4. He has no understanding of government. There is no comparison between running your own business and being expected to lead. We have 3 houses of government and you must work within those confines. That is compounded by those in his own party that have turned their back on him already. He has also already lost any chance of having any ex president assist him as he insulted publicly each and everyone of them.

5. His foreign relation "plans" and comments are absolutely bizarre and scary. He actually wanted to know why we don't use nukes..imagine. He has suggested arming S Korea and Japan with nukes for the simple reason of cost. He has already alienated those countries that we call our allies, to the delight of those who wish to weaken us. He has the support of ISIS and looks like all terrorist groups support him
He supports the possible dismantling of NATO which plays directly into the hands of Russia, since NATO is the only thing stopping their invasions in Eastern Europe. He speaks of nuclear warfare as if it were a walk in the park. He strongly ncourages isolationism in a world that is shrinking rapidly cutting off anybody who is not with HIM.
His trade platforms promise very high inflation, tariffs that will cause what most experts, not most...all predict a steep recession without comparison. These can be checked to see what economists say about ALL his economic proposals.

6. Immigration...who knows. He now sounds like he is supporting exactly what Jeb Bush and Rubio proposed, but we do not know. If he keeps his word and throws all illegal immigrants out immediately, add a tremendous financial burden to all the other economic pains he will cause. He "seems" to be parroting Obama, Bush and Rubio recently but we just don't know.

i could go on and on about his demeanor, his background, his lack of morals nod character, lack of respect for anyone who is not his supporter. He would be the face, or Twitter account,if our country and for me that would make me greatly ashamed.

I keep saying..he is playing this campaign like a reality show. His followers, buffered by a hate for Obama and Clinton see it the same way...a game that ends with an election. Actually after the election everything begins..not ends. I suggest anyone who doubts any if this just read the USA top economists on his financial proposals, the USA top security folks on his ideas on terrorism,and on and on. He promises things that every other person in the world who knows says are impossible.

Then his followers blindly say...look at what he did ith his company. He was a real estate developer...now sells his brand name and he is not that successful. He has promised such huge spending on the national level, it dazzles economists.

But mostly he lies...openly and with no conscience. He relies on his followers not reading and not knowing and simply accepting what he says.

There is much more, but I doubt if anyone has even read this far. By the time of the election, he will be found guilty of fraud in a few states adding that to his resume.

He is simply a low character con artist...and this is not just talking...all can be validated but seems one just don't care and think...all we want is a victory in Nov. well, Nov is when it starts

Guest
08-29-2016, 06:44 PM
I will bet you voted for OBAMA and I will bet you will vote for HILLARY in-spite of all the garbage the CLINTON GANG has been involved in. RE: ties to Russia-why is that a bad thing. PERHAPS, WE CAN IN A TRUMP PRESIDENCY ESTABLISH A FAR BETTER RELATIONSHIP. Are you aware that with the BP oil spill the RUSSIANS offered OBAMA help for a special ship they had for underwater operations.
OBAMA-A COLLEGE PROFESSOR WHO DOES NOT KNOW ........ABOUT OIL OR UNDERWATER OPERATIONS REFUSED THE HELP-REASON THE MAN IS INCAPABLE OF ADMITTING HE DOES NOT KNOW WHAT HE IS DOING.
I guess this is where I must offer a counter point-THE CLINTON FOUNDATION HAS TAKEN MONEY FROM THE MIDDLE EAST, YUP, THE KKK, AND A LARGE LIST OF UNSAVORY PEOPLE. Hilly that bitc. even said if she is elected she will need to change the guidelines for who they will take donations from-THAT IS A CONFIRMATION THAT THE CLINTONS NOT ONLY ARE DIRTBAGS BUT HILLY KNOWS IT.

1. I did not vote for Obama in any way at any time. I am a member of the GOP and have been for about 50 years.

2. Russia did NOT offer help during the BP spill as you say. The countries that offered help were varied, but most assuredly did not include Russia. The help was refused due to LAW...the Jones Act which forbids foreign countries to work in the Gulf.
Found a link and it lists the countries that offered help....NOT RUSSIA. They were "
According to Foreign Policy, thirteen entities that had offered the U.S. oil spill assistance within about two weeks of the Horizon rig explosion. They were the governments of Canada, Croatia, France, Germany, Ireland, Mexico, the Netherlands, Norway, Romania, Republic of Korea, Spain, Sweden, the United Kingdom, and the United Nations."

Here's The Real Reason America Refused International Help On The Oil Spill - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-the-real-reason-america-refused-international-help-on-the-oil-spill-2010-6)

I suggest you skip reading all the hate sites, and get educated a bit.

Quoting these hate sites make folks look foolish

Guest
08-29-2016, 06:58 PM
Wow, what's sad is you may really believe what you wrote.

1. He has already torn the GOP into pieces, and only time will tell if it is ever repaired. This will strengthen the Democratic Party for a long long time, which includes all the congressional seats this election and in two years. Since he got the nomination, more have left him than joined him. This is. Big deal unless you are a Democrat.

2. As much as the country was divided, it is being divided even further. His history, not only words but actions, have pushed blacks and Hispanics further away from not only the GOP but simply being involved. The hate is palpable as in the recent events in schools where children were shouting Trump slogans to minorities. This includes the Jewish and Muslim population. He pretty much has insulted and threatened everyone EXCEPT for those that agree with him. He has the support of very single hate group in the country.

3. He has set a few new low bars for the future. One is the mean spirited language where he demeans anyone who disagrees with him, and labels them usually along the lines of race and ethnicity. He is the first to pull press credentials dependent on "how nice you are to him". If you can imagine this attitude in the Presidency....no chance of compromise because he will PUBLICLY demean you.

4. He has no understanding of government. There is no comparison between running your own business and being expected to lead. We have 3 houses of government and you must work within those confines. That is compounded by those in his own party that have turned their back on him already. He has also already lost any chance of having any ex president assist him as he insulted publicly each and everyone of them.

5. His foreign relation "plans" and comments are absolutely bizarre and scary. He actually wanted to know why we don't use nukes..imagine. He has suggested arming S Korea and Japan with nukes for the simple reason of cost. He has already alienated those countries that we call our allies, to the delight of those who wish to weaken us. He has the support of ISIS and looks like all terrorist groups support him
He supports the possible dismantling of NATO which plays directly into the hands of Russia, since NATO is the only thing stopping their invasions in Eastern Europe. He speaks of nuclear warfare as if it were a walk in the park. He strongly ncourages isolationism in a world that is shrinking rapidly cutting off anybody who is not with HIM.
His trade platforms promise very high inflation, tariffs that will cause what most experts, not most...all predict a steep recession without comparison. These can be checked to see what economists say about ALL his economic proposals.

6. Immigration...who knows. He now sounds like he is supporting exactly what Jeb Bush and Rubio proposed, but we do not know. If he keeps his word and throws all illegal immigrants out immediately, add a tremendous financial burden to all the other economic pains he will cause. He "seems" to be parroting Obama, Bush and Rubio recently but we just don't know.

i could go on and on about his demeanor, his background, his lack of morals nod character, lack of respect for anyone who is not his supporter. He would be the face, or Twitter account,if our country and for me that would make me greatly ashamed.

I keep saying..he is playing this campaign like a reality show. His followers, buffered by a hate for Obama and Clinton see it the same way...a game that ends with an election. Actually after the election everything begins..not ends. I suggest anyone who doubts any if this just read the USA top economists on his financial proposals, the USA top security folks on his ideas on terrorism,and on and on. He promises things that every other person in the world who knows says are impossible.

Then his followers blindly say...look at what he did ith his company. He was a real estate developer...now sells his brand name and he is not that successful. He has promised such huge spending on the national level, it dazzles economists.

But mostly he lies...openly and with no conscience. He relies on his followers not reading and not knowing and simply accepting what he says.

There is much more, but I doubt if anyone has even read this far. By the time of the election, he will be found guilty of fraud in a few states adding that to his resume.

He is simply a low character con artist...and this is not just talking...all can be validated but seems one just don't care and think...all we want is a victory in Nov. well, Nov is when it starts

Guest
08-29-2016, 07:01 PM
1. I did not vote for Obama in any way at any time. I am a member of the GOP and have been for about 50 years.

2. Russia did NOT offer help during the BP spill as you say. The countries that offered help were varied, but most assuredly did not include Russia. The help was refused due to LAW...the Jones Act which forbids foreign countries to work in the Gulf.
Found a link and it lists the countries that offered help....NOT RUSSIA. They were "
According to Foreign Policy, thirteen entities that had offered the U.S. oil spill assistance within about two weeks of the Horizon rig explosion. They were the governments of Canada, Croatia, France, Germany, Ireland, Mexico, the Netherlands, Norway, Romania, Republic of Korea, Spain, Sweden, the United Kingdom, and the United Nations."

Here's The Real Reason America Refused International Help On The Oil Spill - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-the-real-reason-america-refused-international-help-on-the-oil-spill-2010-6)

I suggest you skip reading all the hate sites, and get educated a bit.

Quoting these hate sites make folks look foolish

Wow, what's sad is you may really believe what you wrote.
She is a liberal. Don't let her fool you.

Guest
08-29-2016, 07:08 PM
"LEESBURG, Va. — Emboldened by Donald J. Trump’s struggles in the presidential race, Democrats in Congress are laying the groundwork to expand the list of House Republicans they will target for defeat as part of an effort to slash the Republicans’ 30-seat majority and even reclaim control if Mr. Trump falls further.

Mr. Trump’s unpopularity, which has already undermined the party’s grip on the Senate, now threatens to imperil Republican lawmakers even in traditionally conservative districts, according to strategists and officials in both parties involved in the fight for control of the House."

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/29/us/politics/donald-trump-congress-gop-voters.html?_r=0

This is just a follow up on what Trump is doing FOR the Democratic Party. GOP will be limping for years because of this.

Guest
08-29-2016, 07:10 PM
Wow, what's sad is you may really believe what you wrote.

I believe every word of it to be true, and find it quite interesting on this forum,

Very few, if any posters write in support of what Trump is or stands for....it is basically hate Clinton Obama.

Guest
08-29-2016, 07:15 PM
I believe every word of it to be true, and find it quite interesting on this forum,

Very few, if any posters write in support of what Trump is or stands for....it is basically hate Clinton Obama.
Rocky, you of all people should believe in the underdog. The tea party already killed the old Republican party.

Rocky Theme Tune - YouTube (https://youtu.be/2PtvLTZS4Ik)

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160830/935ba3e9490714fd97c1364a4dab6f6f.jpg

Guest
08-29-2016, 07:19 PM
Rocky, you of all people should believe in the underdog. The tea party already killed the old Republican party.

Rocky Theme Tune - YouTube (https://youtu.be/2PtvLTZS4Ik)

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160830/935ba3e9490714fd97c1364a4dab6f6f.jpg

First time you said something remotely plausible.

Yes, the Tea Party and their ilk (see Palin, etc) planted the seeds, and now my GOP is the party of hate and bigotry, not ideas and values.

Tea Party did oust Boehner...like him or not, he was a good man...and now I suppose this is want they wanted. Total control, but over what...they have actually decimated my once proud party and not on ideas, but on hate.

Democrats love it.

Guest
08-29-2016, 07:24 PM
First time you said something remotely plausible.

Yes, the Tea Party and their ilk (see Palin, etc) planted the seeds, and now my GOP is the party of hate and bigotry, not ideas and values.

Tea Party did oust Boehner...like him or not, he was a good man...and now I suppose this is want they wanted. Total control, but over what...they have actually decimated my once proud party and not on ideas, but on hate.

Democrats love it.
Real conspiracy theorists think the media manipulated trump to win the GOP, as he was the only candidate Hillary can beat.

Hopefully it will backfire and Trump will change politics as we know it.

Guest
08-29-2016, 07:28 PM
First time you said something remotely plausible.

Yes, the Tea Party and their ilk (see Palin, etc) planted the seeds, and now my GOP is the party of hate and bigotry, not ideas and values.

Tea Party did oust Boehner...like him or not, he was a good man...and now I suppose this is want they wanted. Total control, but over what...they have actually decimated my once proud party and not on ideas, but on hate.

Democrats love it.
War hero John McCain was too good a man to actually confront Obama's weaknesses, Obama's vicious racism and horrific associates.

Unfortunately he was also very stupid in his vp selection.

Guest
08-29-2016, 07:31 PM
War hero John McCain was too good a man to actually confront Obama's weaknesses, Obama's vicious racism and horrific associates.

Unfortunately he was also very stupid in his vp selection.

Well, the guy you are supporting strongly mocked and demeaned that war hero.

And yeah...he got some bad advice on that pick. She has literally turned out to be a nut case. She did reality tv and now supports another reality star.

Guest
08-29-2016, 07:37 PM
Well, the guy you are supporting strongly mocked and demeaned that war hero.

And yeah...he got some bad advice on that pick. She has literally turned out to be a nut case. She did reality tv and now supports another reality star.
I still hope trump grovels and apologizes to McCain. I also still hope, cruz, Bush and kasich back the "Republican."

ALL unlikely.

Guest
08-29-2016, 07:39 PM
Real conspiracy theorists think the media manipulated trump to win the GOP, as he was the only candidate Hillary can beat.

Hopefully it will backfire and Trump will change politics as we know it.

Well here are just two examples from the current head lines that demonstrate what he is doing to this country and my party...

"As you may have seen, Donald Trump has a new campaign ad touting the economic benefits of his tax proposals — but the ad cites analyses of tax plans he doesn’t actually support."

Read more at Donald Trump's new campaign ad relies on tax plans he doesn't actually support - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.my/trump-tax-plan-taxes-growth-2016-8/#ulxoTOxvLxvwrRLm.99)

And speaking of people running from this guy to the Democrats...

"Meg Whitman, the Hewlett-Packard executive and former California Republican nominee for governor, is set to make her battleground state debut for Clinton in Denver, beginning to answer the question of how Clinton will publicly use her aisle-crossing backers in the campaign's home-stretch.


Read more: Meg Whitman to campaign for Clinton in Denver - POLITICO (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/meg-whitman-hillary-clinton-227522#ixzz4IltmHhSR)
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The REPUBLICAN candidate for governor campaigning for a democrat.

He is ruining my party

Guest
08-29-2016, 07:41 PM
I still hope trump grovels and apologizes to McCain. I also still hope, cruz, Bush and kasich back the "Republican."

ALL unlikely.

He TRUMP....PERSONALLY, not based on issues, PERSONALLY insulted the entire Bush family, and Cruz's father and wife.

He mocked and insulted these people PERSONALLY.

Guest
08-29-2016, 07:45 PM
If he losses it is 100% the fault of the establishment Republicans themselves!!!! Those three cruz, Bush, kasich could have trump win in a landslide, taking the Supreme Court, house and Senate.

Ask yourself , are they selfish?

Guest
08-29-2016, 07:48 PM
They all need to eat their pride for the greater good!!!!




Pulp Fiction - **** Pride - YouTube (https://youtu.be/ruhFmBrl4GM)http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160830/13910f0cdd9751e1cb7f11bd788de224.jpg

Guest
08-29-2016, 07:49 PM
If he losses it is 100% the fault of the establishment Republicans themselves!!!! Those three cruz, Bush, kasich could have trump win in a landslide, taking the Supreme Court, house and Senate.

Ask yourself , are they selfish?

You insult my family personally for no reason except for your mean spirit, I would not support you under any circumstancrpes.

You insult my wife and my Dad...same thing goes.

He, Trump, is simply a very hateful person. People just forget he insulted his own wives by publicly bragging how he was screwing other guys wives.

He is berift of any morals or character and I have never seen anyone as mean as he is.

No, they are not being selfish at all, and they care so much more about this country than this punk could ever.

Guest
08-29-2016, 07:50 PM
They all need to eat their pride for the greater good!!!!




Pulp Fiction - **** Pride - YouTube (https://youtu.be/ruhFmBrl4GM)http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160830/13910f0cdd9751e1cb7f11bd788de224.jpg

No way....they are moral people with ethics.

Guest
08-29-2016, 07:54 PM
I will bet you voted for OBAMA and I will bet you will vote for HILLARY in-spite of all the garbage the CLINTON GANG has been involved in. RE: ties to Russia-why is that a bad thing. PERHAPS, WE CAN IN A TRUMP PRESIDENCY ESTABLISH A FAR BETTER RELATIONSHIP. Are you aware that with the BP oil spill the RUSSIANS offered OBAMA help for a special ship they had for underwater operations.
OBAMA-A COLLEGE PROFESSOR WHO DOES NOT KNOW ........ABOUT OIL OR UNDERWATER OPERATIONS REFUSED THE HELP-REASON THE MAN IS INCAPABLE OF ADMITTING HE DOES NOT KNOW WHAT HE IS DOING.
I guess this is where I must offer a counter point-THE CLINTON FOUNDATION HAS TAKEN MONEY FROM THE MIDDLE EAST, YUP, THE KKK, AND A LARGE LIST OF UNSAVORY PEOPLE. Hilly that bitc. even said if she is elected she will need to change the guidelines for who they will take donations from-THAT IS A CONFIRMATION THAT THE CLINTONS NOT ONLY ARE DIRTBAGS BUT HILLY KNOWS IT.

You're delusional. Take your meds and calm down.

Guest
08-29-2016, 07:55 PM
Their ethics could ruin a country and maybe a world. I do not think it's pride, they want to be president in four years at any expense. I see them as extremely selfish and when Donald wins I hope he politically buries them if they don't get on board.

Guest
08-29-2016, 07:58 PM
You're delusional. Take your meds and calm down.
Why all the insults, eat an OHENRYK bar and stop the insults.

Guest
08-29-2016, 07:58 PM
1. He has already torn the GOP into pieces, and only time will tell if it is ever repaired. This will strengthen the Democratic Party for a long long time, which includes all the congressional seats this election and in two years. Since he got the nomination, more have left him than joined him. This is. Big deal unless you are a Democrat.

2. As much as the country was divided, it is being divided even further. His history, not only words but actions, have pushed blacks and Hispanics further away from not only the GOP but simply being involved. The hate is palpable as in the recent events in schools where children were shouting Trump slogans to minorities. This includes the Jewish and Muslim population. He pretty much has insulted and threatened everyone EXCEPT for those that agree with him. He has the support of very single hate group in the country.

3. He has set a few new low bars for the future. One is the mean spirited language where he demeans anyone who disagrees with him, and labels them usually along the lines of race and ethnicity. He is the first to pull press credentials dependent on "how nice you are to him". If you can imagine this attitude in the Presidency....no chance of compromise because he will PUBLICLY demean you.

4. He has no understanding of government. There is no comparison between running your own business and being expected to lead. We have 3 houses of government and you must work within those confines. That is compounded by those in his own party that have turned their back on him already. He has also already lost any chance of having any ex president assist him as he insulted publicly each and everyone of them.

5. His foreign relation "plans" and comments are absolutely bizarre and scary. He actually wanted to know why we don't use nukes..imagine. He has suggested arming S Korea and Japan with nukes for the simple reason of cost. He has already alienated those countries that we call our allies, to the delight of those who wish to weaken us. He has the support of ISIS and looks like all terrorist groups support him
He supports the possible dismantling of NATO which plays directly into the hands of Russia, since NATO is the only thing stopping their invasions in Eastern Europe. He speaks of nuclear warfare as if it were a walk in the park. He strongly ncourages isolationism in a world that is shrinking rapidly cutting off anybody who is not with HIM.
His trade platforms promise very high inflation, tariffs that will cause what most experts, not most...all predict a steep recession without comparison. These can be checked to see what economists say about ALL his economic proposals.

6. Immigration...who knows. He now sounds like he is supporting exactly what Jeb Bush and Rubio proposed, but we do not know. If he keeps his word and throws all illegal immigrants out immediately, add a tremendous financial burden to all the other economic pains he will cause. He "seems" to be parroting Obama, Bush and Rubio recently but we just don't know.

i could go on and on about his demeanor, his background, his lack of morals nod character, lack of respect for anyone who is not his supporter. He would be the face, or Twitter account,if our country and for me that would make me greatly ashamed.

I keep saying..he is playing this campaign like a reality show. His followers, buffered by a hate for Obama and Clinton see it the same way...a game that ends with an election. Actually after the election everything begins..not ends. I suggest anyone who doubts any if this just read the USA top economists on his financial proposals, the USA top security folks on his ideas on terrorism,and on and on. He promises things that every other person in the world who knows says are impossible.

Then his followers blindly say...look at what he did ith his company. He was a real estate developer...now sells his brand name and he is not that successful. He has promised such huge spending on the national level, it dazzles economists.

But mostly he lies...openly and with no conscience. He relies on his followers not reading and not knowing and simply accepting what he says.

There is much more, but I doubt if anyone has even read this far. By the time of the election, he will be found guilty of fraud in a few states adding that to his resume.

He is simply a low character con artist...and this is not just talking...all can be validated but seems one just don't care and think...all we want is a victory in Nov. well, Nov is when it starts

:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow:

Guest
08-29-2016, 08:00 PM
:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow:
Now that's a better position for you.

Guest
08-29-2016, 08:03 PM
You insult my family personally for no reason except for your mean spirit, I would not support you under any circumstancrpes.

You insult my wife and my Dad...same thing goes.

He, Trump, is simply a very hateful person. People just forget he insulted his own wives by publicly bragging how he was screwing other guys wives.

He is berift of any morals or character and I have never seen anyone as mean as he is.

No, they are not being selfish at all, and they care so much more about this country than this punk could ever.

:agree:

Guest
08-29-2016, 08:04 PM
Why all the insults, eat an OHENRYK bar and stop the insults.

As I said, take the meds.

Guest
08-29-2016, 08:04 PM
:agree:
Easy for a liberal to agree with. Lol

Guest
08-29-2016, 08:06 PM
As I said, take the meds.
Personal insults have a way of coming around, I suggest you go to Mass this Sunday and pray a lot. And stop with the candy bars, you are getting housebound.

Guest
08-29-2016, 08:46 PM
Personal insults have a way of coming around, I suggest you go to Mass this Sunday and pray a lot. And stop with the candy bars, you are getting housebound.

Take the meds. You'll feel much better.

Guest
08-29-2016, 08:54 PM
Take the meds. You'll feel much better.
Some people do not learn.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160830/5b81411dcc2ed52cda142b1f0dc6ab26.jpg

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160830/6ef4416a27c4e938554029ccf72710c1.jpg

Ha Ha Ha Ha - YouTube (https://youtu.be/blpe_sGnnP4)

Guest
08-29-2016, 09:15 PM
Don't call people ignorant, who the hell do you think you are. I'm the person who calls ignorant people...ignorant. :D



CNM, you are the one that needs education, check your facts buddy.

I think were tired of your fact less - feckless posts

#5 – Warren Buffett's Federal Tax Rate Is Less than His Secretary’s | Foundation for Economic Education (https://fee.org/articles/5-warren-buffetts-federal-tax-rate-is-less-than-his-secretarys/)

:Screen_of_Death:

Even after I gave you a really great hint... you were still too ignorant to take it. :oops:

Just like I tried to tell you, Buffet never said he "paid more taxes than his secretary."

Even your own link said that. :1rotfl:

But then again, if you aren't even smart enough to understand "tax rate"...I shouldn't expect you to comprehend "effective tax rate.". :oops:


:wave:

CNM

Guest
08-29-2016, 09:25 PM
Just like I tried to tell you, Buffet never said he "paid LESS taxes than his secretary."

Even your own link said that. :1rotfl:

But then again, if you aren't even smart enough to understand "tax rate"...I shouldn't expect you to comprehend "effective tax rate.". :oops:


:wave:

CNM



Correction in capitals above.

Guest
08-29-2016, 09:33 PM
1. He has already torn the GOP into pieces, and only time will tell if it is ever repaired. This will strengthen the Democratic Party for a long long time, which includes all the congressional seats this election and in two years. Since he got the nomination, more have left him than joined him. This is. Big deal unless you are a Democrat.

2. As much as the country was divided, it is being divided even further. His history, not only words but actions, have pushed blacks and Hispanics further away from not only the GOP but simply being involved. The hate is palpable as in the recent events in schools where children were shouting Trump slogans to minorities. This includes the Jewish and Muslim population. He pretty much has insulted and threatened everyone EXCEPT for those that agree with him. He has the support of very single hate group in the country.

3. He has set a few new low bars for the future. One is the mean spirited language where he demeans anyone who disagrees with him, and labels them usually along the lines of race and ethnicity. He is the first to pull press credentials dependent on "how nice you are to him". If you can imagine this attitude in the Presidency....no chance of compromise because he will PUBLICLY demean you.

4. He has no understanding of government. There is no comparison between running your own business and being expected to lead. We have 3 houses of government and you must work within those confines. That is compounded by those in his own party that have turned their back on him already. He has also already lost any chance of having any ex president assist him as he insulted publicly each and everyone of them.

5. His foreign relation "plans" and comments are absolutely bizarre and scary. He actually wanted to know why we don't use nukes..imagine. He has suggested arming S Korea and Japan with nukes for the simple reason of cost. He has already alienated those countries that we call our allies, to the delight of those who wish to weaken us. He has the support of ISIS and looks like all terrorist groups support him
He supports the possible dismantling of NATO which plays directly into the hands of Russia, since NATO is the only thing stopping their invasions in Eastern Europe. He speaks of nuclear warfare as if it were a walk in the park. He strongly ncourages isolationism in a world that is shrinking rapidly cutting off anybody who is not with HIM.
His trade platforms promise very high inflation, tariffs that will cause what most experts, not most...all predict a steep recession without comparison. These can be checked to see what economists say about ALL his economic proposals.

6. Immigration...who knows. He now sounds like he is supporting exactly what Jeb Bush and Rubio proposed, but we do not know. If he keeps his word and throws all illegal immigrants out immediately, add a tremendous financial burden to all the other economic pains he will cause. He "seems" to be parroting Obama, Bush and Rubio recently but we just don't know.

i could go on and on about his demeanor, his background, his lack of morals nod character, lack of respect for anyone who is not his supporter. He would be the face, or Twitter account,if our country and for me that would make me greatly ashamed.

I keep saying..he is playing this campaign like a reality show. His followers, buffered by a hate for Obama and Clinton see it the same way...a game that ends with an election. Actually after the election everything begins..not ends. I suggest anyone who doubts any if this just read the USA top economists on his financial proposals, the USA top security folks on his ideas on terrorism,and on and on. He promises things that every other person in the world who knows says are impossible.

Then his followers blindly say...look at what he did ith his company. He was a real estate developer...now sells his brand name and he is not that successful. He has promised such huge spending on the national level, it dazzles economists.

But mostly he lies...openly and with no conscience. He relies on his followers not reading and not knowing and simply accepting what he says.

There is much more, but I doubt if anyone has even read this far. By the time of the election, he will be found guilty of fraud in a few states adding that to his resume.

He is simply a low character con artist...and this is not just talking...all can be validated but seems one just don't care and think...all we want is a victory in Nov. well, Nov is when it starts

You not only nailed it, you've infuriated his supporters! :D

Awesome job. :thumbup:


:wave:

CNM

Guest
08-30-2016, 10:40 AM
CNM can't help being an @ss. She is the product of her father paying for bad sex.

Guest
08-30-2016, 11:18 AM
:1rotfl:

Oh, Marsha, Marsha, Marsha!

Guest
08-30-2016, 12:36 PM
The perfect example, of why it is all but impossible... to actually 'debate' ignorant people. :oops:

Buffet NEVER said that.

Hint; Educate yourself on the term 'effective tax rate.'. :ohdear:



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CNM

Shut your pie hole girl.

Guest
08-30-2016, 12:38 PM
And then there is Hillary

Guest
08-30-2016, 12:41 PM
Just like I tried to tell you, Buffet never said he "paid LESS taxes than his secretary."

Even your own link said that. :1rotfl:

But then again, if you aren't even smart enough to understand "tax rate"...I shouldn't expect you to comprehend "effective tax rate.". :oops:


:wave:

CNM



Correction in capitals above.
Lol buffett the great humanitarian.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160830/923fcf3c1b070c1042effbe54589e865.jpg

Normally I never saw a buffet I did not like, but this scum buffett is a big part of the pay to play problem.

Guest
08-30-2016, 12:58 PM
Lol buffett the great humanitarian.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160830/923fcf3c1b070c1042effbe54589e865.jpg

Normally I never saw a buffet I did not like, but this scum buffett is a big part of the pay to play problem.

You are SO right! "thumbup:

Guest
08-30-2016, 02:07 PM
Shut your pie hole girl.

:1rotfl:

What an original and awesome comeback, from someone just made to look like the ignorant and complete fool that they are. :D

Good job. :thumbup:



:wave:

CNM

Guest
08-30-2016, 02:18 PM
:1rotfl:

What an original and awesome comeback, from someone just made to look like the ignorant and complete fool that they are. :D

Good job. :thumbup:



:wave:

CNM

Wrong guest, ignorant. Yep, I just call ignorant when I see it.

Guest
08-30-2016, 03:11 PM
Wrong guest, ignorant. Yep, I just call ignorant when I see it.

When hiding behind 'Guest,' all you nasty, ignorant and bile filled right-wingnuts...look alike. :1rotfl:


:wave:

CNM

Guest
08-30-2016, 03:19 PM
When hiding behind 'Guest,' all you nasty, ignorant and bile filled right-wingnuts...look alike. :1rotfl:


:wave:

CNM
That is not nice, some of us don't hide.... And I forgot to attend mass this week, but I will say a prayer for the soulless next Sunday.

Latest poll, those non minorities that have been the victim or have immediate families that were victims of violent crime are the most likely to vote Trump.

I guess most liberals have had charmed protected lucky lives.

Guest
08-30-2016, 03:19 PM
When hiding behind 'Guest,' all you nasty, ignorant and bile filled right-wingnuts...look alike. :1rotfl:


:wave:

CNM
I had no idea that everyone knew you actual voting name?

Guest
08-30-2016, 03:20 PM
When hiding behind 'Guest,' all you nasty, ignorant and bile filled right-wingnuts...look alike. :1rotfl:


:wave:

CNM
I had no idea that everyone knew your actual voting name. Do they or would you object to it?

Guest
08-30-2016, 03:29 PM
When hiding behind 'Guest,' all you nasty, ignorant and bile filled right-wingnuts...look alike. :1rotfl:


:wave:

CNM

Look in the mirror barf

barf

barf





:wave:

Guest
08-30-2016, 03:37 PM
I had no idea that everyone knew your actual voting name. Do they or would you object to it?

Quit trying to play dumb, as you know exactly what I mean. :oops:

Your particular user name at least shows up (not sure why that is :shrug: ), so there's no chance of getting a response from someone else confused with you.

During the normal course of a thread however, when everyone is using 'Guest'... no one knows who posted what.

At least with a user name, or even at least signing as I do...a person knows if they are responding to the same poster.

I do understand why some don't even want their user names known though, as their are some real flaming racists, bigots and just damned nasty folks who would prefer to stay hidden...just like the chicken$hits they are. :p

That was a pretty pathetic try at deflection and obfuscation however...and fell woefully short of your usual attempts. :ohdear:


:wave:

CNM

Guest
08-30-2016, 03:42 PM
Quit trying to play dumb, as you know exactly what I mean. :oops:

Your particular user name at least shows up (not sure why that is :shrug: ), so there's no chance of getting a response from someone else confused with you.

During the normal course of a thread however, when everyone is using 'Guest'... no one knows who posted what.

At least with a user name, or even at least signing as I do...a person knows if they are responding to the same poster.

I do understand why some don't even want their user names known though, as their are some real flaming racists, bigots and just damned nasty folks who would prefer to stay hidden...just like the chicken$hits they are. [emoji14]

That was a pretty pathetic try at deflection and obfuscation however...and fell woefully short of your usual attempts. :ohdear:


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CNM
So you admit my other attempts were better. I think there is hope for your conversion.

What amount of additional US based terrorist murders annually is tolerable for every 10,000 Syrian refugees?

Serious question for cnm.

Guest
08-30-2016, 04:02 PM
When hiding behind 'Guest,' all you nasty, ignorant and bile filled right-wingnuts...look alike. :1rotfl:


:wave:

CNM

So, you don't like it when someone does the same thing as you do? Isn't that a bit hypocritical? What, did someone get inside your head and found out that it was abandoned? :a20:

:wave:
NCNM

Guest
08-30-2016, 04:06 PM
So you admit my other attempts were better. I think there is hope for your conversion.

What amount of additional US based terrorist murders annually is tolerable for every 10,000 Syrian refugees?

Serious question for cnm.

Whether it is a Syrian refugee, a Swedish/Italian/French/Spanish/Canadian/Colombian/ETC.,ETC.,ETC. LEGAL immigrant or even an American citizen with lineage going back to the Mayflower...there isn't much that can be done about those who've decided to be a lone wolf terrorist.

Until a 'Minority Report' type technology is developed, there is no way to predict who will be the next lowlife scumbag that kills innocents.

What I wonder though, is why people are more afraid of being killed by a terrorist...than drunk drivers?

Dead is dead...correct? :oops:

If you are truly committed in reducing American deaths (instead of just giving lip service to it and using it as a way to exhibit your bigotry and xenophobia)....why don't you try and make alcohol illegal? ;)

Or any of these other ways of dying, that are much more likely than being killed by a terrorist.

Ten things more likely to kill you than a terrorist plot — and the government isn't trying to protect us from any of them! - Watchdog.org (http://watchdog.org/90847/ten-things-more-likely-to-kill-you-than-a-terrorist-plot-and-the-government-isnt-trying-to-protect-us-from-any-of-them/)

As Conor Friedersdorf points out here, terrorists have killed roughly 3,000 people in the United States since 1999. During the same interval, more than 13,000 Americans were killed by drunk drivers.

- You are as likely to be killed while moving heavy furniture as by a terrorist.

An estimated 80,000 Americans literally drink themselves to death each year, according to the CDC. That means you are several thousand times more likely to die from drinking too much than to be killed by a terrorist. Maybe terrorists should start hosting keggers and inviting as many people as they can?

- You are eight times more likely to accidentally electrocute yourself than to be killed by a terrorist.

- We literally use this as a metaphor for a thing that rarely happens, so it’s worth pointing out that you are four times more likely to be killed by a blast from the heavens than to be killed in a terrorist’s plot.




So please explain, knowing these facts and if it isn't born from bigotry, racism or xenophobia...why are so many terrified of dying from a terrorist?

I'll be anxious to hear. :popcorn:




:wave:

CNM

Guest
08-30-2016, 04:10 PM
So, you don't like it when someone does the same thing as you do? Isn't that a bit hypocritical? What, did someone get inside your head and found out that it was abandoned? :a20:

:wave:
NCNM

Imitation being the sincerest form of flattery...thanks for giving me such high praise. :D


:1rotfl:




:wave:

CNM

Guest
08-30-2016, 04:10 PM
Whether it is a Syrian refugee, a Swedish/Italian/French/Spanish/Canadian/Colombian/ETC.,ETC.,ETC. LEGAL immigrant or even an American citizen with lineage going back to the Mayflower...there isn't much that can be done about those who've decided to be a lone wolf terrorist.

Until a 'Minority Report' type technology is developed, there is no way to predict who will be the next lowlife scumbag that kills innocents.

What I wonder though, is why people are more afraid of being killed by a terrorist...than drunk drivers?

Dead is dead...correct? :oops:

If you are truly committed in reducing American deaths (instead of just giving lip service to it and using it as a way to exhibit your bigotry and xenophobia)....why don't you try and make alcohol illegal? ;)

Or any of these other ways of dying, that are much more likely than being killed by a terrorist.

Ten things more likely to kill you than a terrorist plot — and the government isn't trying to protect us from any of them! - Watchdog.org (http://watchdog.org/90847/ten-things-more-likely-to-kill-you-than-a-terrorist-plot-and-the-government-isnt-trying-to-protect-us-from-any-of-them/)








So please explain, knowing these facts and if it isn't born from bigotry, racism or xenophobia...why are so many terrified of dying from a terrorist?

I'll be anxious to hear. :popcorn:




:wave:

CNM

Thank you for not answering a simple question, proving the obvious.

So 10,000 Buddhist immigrants should increase terrorism equal to 10,000 Syrians, I understand now.


Can't make this stuff up.

Guest
08-30-2016, 04:18 PM
Thank you for not answering a simple question, proving the obvious.

So 10,000 Buddhist immigrants should increase terrorism equal to 10,000 Syrians, I understand now.

Can't make this stuff up.

I DID answer, you're just dumbstruck from the truth :oops:

I'll spell it out for you again, so you can read it slowly (feel free to move your lips).

I'm not worried about Syrian refugee's, NEARLY as much as the drunkards running around The Villages...as they are the ones most likely to kill me.

Is that simple enough for you? :ohdear:


MY question to you (which you once again dodged and weaved around), is why are you so concerned about Syrian refugees....when they pose a FAR lesser threat than those items I listed? ;)

Of course it's a rhetorical question, because everyone knows the concern about refugees from folks like you and your ilk...is simply born from racism, bigotry and xenophobia.:ho:

So thanks for being honest...even if it was inadvertent. :D



:wave:

CNM

Guest
08-30-2016, 04:18 PM
Whether it is a Syrian refugee, a Swedish/Italian/French/Spanish/Canadian/Colombian/ETC.,ETC.,ETC. LEGAL immigrant or even an American citizen with lineage going back to the Mayflower...there isn't much that can be done about those who've decided to be a lone wolf terrorist.

Until a 'Minority Report' type technology is developed, there is no way to predict who will be the next lowlife scumbag that kills innocents.

What I wonder though, is why people are more afraid of being killed by a terrorist...than drunk drivers?

Dead is dead...correct? :oops:

If you are truly committed in reducing American deaths (instead of just giving lip service to it and using it as a way to exhibit your bigotry and xenophobia)....why don't you try and make alcohol illegal? ;)

Or any of these other ways of dying, that are much more likely than being killed by a terrorist.

Ten things more likely to kill you than a terrorist plot — and the government isn't trying to protect us from any of them! - Watchdog.org (http://watchdog.org/90847/ten-things-more-likely-to-kill-you-than-a-terrorist-plot-and-the-government-isnt-trying-to-protect-us-from-any-of-them/)








So please explain, knowing these facts and if it isn't born from bigotry, racism or xenophobia...why are so many terrified of dying from a terrorist?

I'll be anxious to hear. :popcorn:




:wave:

CNM

Since there have been ten times the mass shootings during Obama's tenure as Bush's, does that mean that that Obama is a failure?

Guest
08-30-2016, 04:24 PM
I DID answer, you're just dumbstruck from the truth :oops:

I'll spell it out for you again, so you can read it slowly (feel free to move your lips).

I'm not worried about Syrian refugee's, NEARLY as much as the drunkards running around The Villages...as they are the ones most likely to kill me.

Is that simple enough for you? :ohdear:


MY question to you (which you once again dodged and weaved around), is why are you so concerned about Syrian refugees....when they pose a FAR lesser threat than those items I listed? ;)

Of course it's a rhetorical question, because everyone knows the concern about refugees from folks like you and your ilk...is simply born from racism, bigotry and xenophobia.:ho:

So thanks for being honest...even if it was inadvertent. :D



:wave:

CNM
See, just like Clinton, talk forever instead of answering a simple question.

I am glad you don't care how many terrorists are in each 10,000 Syrian refugees.

Yes, talk about dui in the villages instead.

Fact, there will be terrorism associated with the 10,000. Other costs associated with them I am sure you want to avoid as well.

Be glad you live in the bubble, be glad trump will protect your bubble.

Guest
08-30-2016, 04:27 PM
Imitation being the sincerest form of flattery...thanks for giving me such high praise. :D


:1rotfl:




:wave:

CNM

Yes, he got inside your head and found there to be nobody home......:a20:

Guest
08-30-2016, 04:30 PM
See, just like Clinton, talk forever instead of answering a simple question.

I am glad you don't care how many terrorists are in each 10,000 Syrian refugees.

Yes, talk about dui in the villages instead.

Fact, there will be terrorism associated with the 10,000. Other costs associated with them I am sure you want to avoid as well.

Be glad you live in the bubble, be glad trump will protect your bubble.

I remember when we took in the Vietnamese refugees and the gov gave them something like $20k-25K to get established in the states. At the time, I was wondering why our children couldn't even get a break on college tuition, but the gov had so much to give away to immigrants. I wonder how much they will give to these refugees to get them started and subsidize their terrorist activities.

Guest
08-30-2016, 04:30 PM
I agree with you, my husband was run down by a drunk several years back running a stop sign, in her pick up truck. Flipped his cart left him for dead, she wasn't illegal she was DRUNK!!!!! They caught her on 441 he was able to get her plates when the idiot came back for a second look, not to help just to look. DRUNK as a skunk from town square! May Trump can do something about all the free flowing booze in the villages.

Guest
08-30-2016, 04:32 PM
I agree with you, my husband was run down by a drunk several years back running a stop sign, in her pick up truck. Flipped his cart left him for dead, she wasn't illegal she was DRUNK!!!!! They caught her on 441 he was able to get her plates when the idiot came back for a second look, not to help just to look. DRUNK as a skunk from town square! May Trump can do something about all the free flowing booze in the villages.

Booze is definitely NOT FREE in the Villages. Just saying.

Guest
08-30-2016, 04:36 PM
I agree with you, my husband was run down by a drunk several years back running a stop sign, in her pick up truck. Flipped his cart left him for dead, she wasn't illegal she was DRUNK!!!!! They caught her on 441 he was able to get her plates when the idiot came back for a second look, not to help just to look. DRUNK as a skunk from town square! May Trump can do something about all the free flowing booze in the villages.
I feel for your loss. All laws must be enforced. It starts from the top. Obama is the picture of lawlessness as is clinton. I am sure you want a tough on crime candidate.


Law and order in all areas will be enforced better with trump than under clinton. Look at bills nose and tell me Hillary prevents drunks?

One of the candidates does not do drugs or drink.

Welcome to the forum.

Guest
08-30-2016, 04:39 PM
See, just like Clinton, talk forever instead of answering a simple question.

I am glad you don't care how many terrorists are in each 10,000 Syrian refugees.

You should be hundreds of times more concerned about how many drunks are in those 10,000 refugees...why aren't you? :ohdear:




Yes, talk about dui in the villages instead.

Fact, there will be terrorism associated with the 10,000. Other costs associated with them I am sure you want to avoid as well.

Be glad you live in the bubble, be glad trump will protect your bubble.

Try to dodge all you want, anyone with even a modicum of common sense (and lacking in racism, bigotry and xenophobia)...knows I'm absolutely correct.

Here's the truth...so choke on it. :D


MY question to you (which you once again dodged and weaved around), is why are you so concerned about Syrian refugees....when they pose a FAR lesser threat than those items I listed? ;)

Of course it's a rhetorical question, because everyone knows the concern about refugees from folks like you and your ilk...is simply born from racism, bigotry and xenophobia. :ho:

So thanks for being honest...even if it was inadvertent. :D



:wave:

CNM

Guest
08-30-2016, 04:43 PM
You should be hundreds of times more concerned about how many drunks are in those 10,000 refugees...why aren't you? :ohdear:






Try to dodge all you want, anyone with even a modicum of common sense (and lacking in racism, bigotry and xenophobia)...knows I'm absolutely correct.

Here's the truth...so choke on it. :D





:wave:

CNM
Why can't you control you anger? "Choke on it?"

Guest
08-31-2016, 07:41 AM
Perhaps all these liberal women that find the refugee problem to be such a trivial thing, might want to consider welcoming them to our country? I'm sure that a gesture like that would be appreciated by them, just as much as they appreciated and showed their gratitude in Germany toward their women.

Guest
08-31-2016, 07:58 AM
Why can't you control you anger? "Choke on it?"

Who's angry?

I'm laughing my a$$ off. :1rotfl:

The obvious ignorance/racism/bigotry/xenophobia shown by those who are hundreds of times more likely to die from obesity and/or drunk drivers...want to focus only on refugees? :oops:

Those that are so stupid and ignorant as to refuse to see reality...always crack me the heck up. :D


So choke on that. :ho:



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CNM

Guest
08-31-2016, 08:21 AM
Who's angry?

I'm laughing my a$$ off.

The obvious ignorance/racism/bigotry/xenophobia shown by those who are hundreds of times more likely to die from obesity and/or drunk drivers...want to focus only on refugees? :oops:

Those that are so stupid and ignorant as to refuse to see reality...always crack me the heck up.


CNM

Me too! You are a prime example of those that refuse to see reality. Good point of self reflection on your part. :a20:

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08-31-2016, 08:53 AM
This may be the dumbest, most ill informed post of the day...er, week, er month.

Trump's financial ties to Russia and Ukraine will make you welcome what happened with Iran because Trump's soul is with Russia etc.

Just remember trump has "a personal relationship with putin" and his daughter vacations with putin's mistress. Where is the outrage from the repub nationalists? You would vote for hitler if he was running, and he is.

Guest
08-31-2016, 09:03 AM
Just remember trump has "a personal relationship with putin" and his daughter vacations with putin's mistress. Where is the outrage from the repub nationalists? You would vote for hitler if he was running, and he is.
That's like saying Dave harris's daughter is having sex with Franco harris's son. Think about it.

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Guest
08-31-2016, 09:09 AM
Who's angry?

I'm laughing my a$$ off. :1rotfl:

The obvious ignorance/racism/bigotry/xenophobia shown by those who are hundreds of times more likely to die from obesity and/or drunk drivers...want to focus only on refugees? :oops:

Those that are so stupid and ignorant as to refuse to see reality...always crack me the heck up. :D


So choke on that. :ho:



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CNM

Please reread what you wrote. It's the typical Clintonese.

Why are you ONLY focusing on obesity and drunk drivers, DON'T YOU KNOW CANCER AND HEART DISEASE ARE MORE IMPORTANT.

Only stupid and ignorant people would be in favor of more cancer, that's not you cnm? Your not stupid.


I hereby rename cnm to Fredo.


Godfather II - Fredo's outburst - YouTube (https://youtu.be/zgHXHtHSsNo)

Guest
08-31-2016, 09:19 AM
Please reread what you wrote. It's the typical Clintonese.

Why are you ONLY focusing on obesity and drunk drivers, DON'T YOU KNOW CANCER AND HEART DISEASE ARE MORE IMPORTANT.

Only stupid and ignorant people would be in favor of more cancer, that's not you cnm? Your not stupid.

I hereby rename cnm to Fredo.

Godfather II - Fredo's outburst - YouTube (https://youtu.be/zgHXHtHSsNo)

I guess I've been giving you too much credit in thinking that you weren't totally ignorant. :oops:

I simply pointed out those things that are EASILY preventable (ie: drinking/over-eating).

That you try to equate cancer/heart disease in the same category...is proof of utter desperation. :ohdear:

And yet you've still dodged the question; Why are you more concerned about refugees, than addressing those things that kill FAR more American citizens...and are easily addressed?

I'll wait for your next obfuscation and dodging/weaving. :popcorn:






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CNM

Guest
08-31-2016, 09:23 AM
I guess I've been giving you too much credit in thinking that you weren't totally ignorant. :oops:

I simply pointed out those things that are EASILY preventable (ie: drinking/over-eating).

That you try to equate cancer/heart disease in the same category...is proof of utter desperation. :ohdear:

And yet you've still dodged the question; Why are you more concerned about refugees, than addressing those things that kill FAR more American citizens...and are easily addressed?

I'll wait for your next obfuscation and dodging/weaving. :popcorn:






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CNM

Dear obfuscating Fredo. I feel for you. It's very easy to stop Syrians from entering. Just elect trump.


That was easy.

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Ps. Stop promoting cancer.

Guest
08-31-2016, 09:24 AM
Just remember trump has "a personal relationship with putin" and his daughter vacations with putin's mistress. Where is the outrage from the repub nationalists? You would vote for hitler if he was running, and he is.

Who cares? Is this information going to change your vote?