trump the coward

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He rants and raves about Mexico paying for the wall, but when he meets face to face with the Mexican President he is a wimp. He is a con man, what can you expect. Went there for religious pictures and came back with egg on his face. Caspar Milquetoast

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He rants and raves about Mexico paying for the wall, but when he meets face to face with the Mexican President he is a wimp. He is a con man, what can you expect. Went there for religious pictures and came back with egg on his face. Caspar Milquetoast

I know it is hard for a liberal to think on their own, because it's too dangerous, but think about it a minute. It is not within Trump's authority to negotiate payment for a border wall right now. He is not a gov employee and does not have the power to negotiate or empower the building of a wall. He was smart NOT to discuss the financing of the wall that he PLANS to build IF he is elected. He would still need congress's approval to build the wall first. I realize that this may be confusing for you. You probably didn't read all of your talking points before spewing your confusion on here.

Trump ate Hillary's lunch by accepting the Mexican president's invitation. They discussed ideas, not negotiated contracts. Hillary was left eating Trump's dust while she was greedily begging or dealing for more funding. Trump is a doer. Hillary would rather someone else do everything for her. Typical liberal.

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I laugh people really dont understand how he will make Mexico pay for a wall or anything for that matter. Think about it for a minute it will come to you .

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it can be done with a tax or fee on each Western Union money transfer to Mexico & central America, billions of $$$ are sent every year.

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Trump DID go to Mexico, Hillary did not!

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Trump DID go to Mexico, Hillary did not!

She figures she has the latino vote locked up so why bother.

And typical of what we see here on this forum, when somebody says or does anything that is different from their view/stance/opinion, the first they do is whine about what the other person said or did or did not do.

Typical democrat?
You say up they say down.
You say down the say up.
You say up or down they say side ways!!!

No knowledge or understanding required.

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She figures she has the latino vote locked up so why bother.

And typical of what we see here on this forum, when somebody says or does anything that is different from their view/stance/opinion, the first they do is whine about what the other person said or did or did not do.

Typical democrat?
You say up they say down.
You say down the say up.
You say up or down they say side ways!!!

No knowledge or understanding required.

Republicans can be pretty obtuse themselves.

And what is it with religion? I mean really? You believe all that 5000 year old crap?

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I am a Democrat an I say NEVER HILLARY!

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I'm ME and I'm not cattle or sheep...I'll vote for NEITHER of the crooks. The lesser of two evils is still evil.

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I know it is hard for a liberal to think on their own, because it's too dangerous, but think about it a minute. It is not within Trump's authority to negotiate payment for a border wall right now. He is not a gov employee and does not have the power to negotiate or empower the building of a wall. He was smart NOT to discuss the financing of the wall that he PLANS to build IF he is elected. He would still need congress's approval to build the wall first. I realize that this may be confusing for you. You probably didn't read all of your talking points before spewing your confusion on here.

Trump ate Hillary's lunch by accepting the Mexican president's invitation. They discussed ideas, not negotiated contracts. Hillary was left eating Trump's dust while she was greedily begging or dealing for more funding. Trump is a doer. Hillary would rather someone else do everything for her. Typical liberal.

So, eliminate the confusion, how will Trump ever get Congress to approve his wall? He said that he will start building the wall on day one of his presidency. So, he thinks that he has the power to do this.

When the gang of eight came up with their bipartisan immigration plan, it had to be comprehensive. The Democrats would never agree with a plan that had the wall being built first, because they knew there would never be a step two. Why would they do it now? Because Trump is Trump.

Trump is doer. Too funny. All he does is lie. He goes to Mexico, and acts presidential. He comes back to the US, and delivers a speech that only his alt right people agree with. His speech last night wasn't presidential. It was far from it. It was dictatorial. He performs for the audience that is in front of him. Saturday should be funny. Let's see if he gives a speech like the one in Bulworth.

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Let's talk about coward......while Trump put his life on the line to go to Mexico to form a relationship with the country and its president, Killary was nowhere to be found even though she was invited to Mexico. Mr. trump was very smart in not talking about the wall or who's paying for it. You don't go to a foreign country for the first time and meet the president and start conversation with a bitter topic. Mr. Trump will form a relationship with Mexico's president and they will then talk about the wall.

Mr. Trump has shown his love for America and its citizens and is willing to risk his life to become president and do what's right for our country. On the other hand, Killary just sits back, continues to lie, lie, lie and dodge any questions regarding the boarder, ISIS, the deletion of 33,000+++ emails, why people around her are "mysteriously" dying, how she will fix healthcare, her declining health or the fraudulent Clinton Foundation. These are important issues the American people have the right to know about and SHE'S the coward for not talking about the issues. Watch Clinton Cash and Hillary's America and then tell me who the coward is.

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So, eliminate the confusion, how will Trump ever get Congress to approve his wall? He said that he will start building the wall on day one of his presidency. So, he thinks that he has the power to do this.

He does,

it was approved by congress years ago just not followed thru

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So, eliminate the confusion, how will Trump ever get Congress to approve his wall? He said that he will start building the wall on day one of his presidency. So, he thinks that he has the power to do this.

When the gang of eight came up with their bipartisan immigration plan, it had to be comprehensive. The Democrats would never agree with a plan that had the wall being built first, because they knew there would never be a step two. Why would they do it now? Because Trump is Trump.

Trump is doer. Too funny. All he does is lie. He goes to Mexico, and acts presidential. He comes back to the US, and delivers a speech that only his alt right people agree with. His speech last night wasn't presidential. It was far from it. It was dictatorial. He performs for the audience that is in front of him. Saturday should be funny. Let's see if he gives a speech like the one in Bulworth.

Another desperate and confused liberal. My, my, my!
Lies? I hear you make that statement, but I do not hear you give us his quoted lies from his speech. Trump ate Hillary's lunch and the polls are proving it. And Nov 8 will be the ultimate proof.

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And Hillary had no time to travel to Mexico because she is in conference with her lawyers over how she is going to lie her way out of the latest scandal. How is she going to excuse sending classified emails on an unsecured, private Internet server, even AFTER leaving government employment. Her clearance was taken away from her when she left gov employment. I know, some libtard is going to throw out there that if she was guilty, she would have to be charged and convicted and no one has charged and convicted her. However, all of this evidence will eventually find the right person, at the right time, holding the right power to pursue justice and then she will be FRIED like a county fair corn dog.

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He will, like Obama did, has done and will continue, to do or get what ever he needs without the approval of the congress.

Getting congressional approval is akin to speed limits.....most do what ever they can get away with.

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He will, like Obama did, has done and will continue, to do or get what ever he needs without the approval of the congress.

Getting congressional approval is akin to speed limits.....most do what ever they can get away with.

Congress let Obama get away with it because he is black. They did not pursue impeachment because they knew there would be racial riots in D.C. like the ones of '68. Trump would not get away with what Obama has gotten away with, even if Trump wanted to. I doubt he would try.

Off the subject, but if Hillary was pres. and tried to circumvent congress, she would get slapped down also. Being a female will not help her because there is NO threat of rioting. No one would care about her being slammed.

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All of this is political jabber.

Why all the fuss.....

Job loss in the USA is from losses to China plus technological changes. NAFTA losses have been extremely small.

He continues to wrap his rhetoric in fear and despair.

Vote for him, and your disappointment will actually be despair. And this is not partisan rhetoric from me....

I am a member of the GOP for 50 years. I am anti Obama policies and certainly anti Clinton.

Most importantly, everything I have said is verifiable, if you want to do that.

He is doing a con job, by scaring and playing on insecurities.

He will insure that the Democrats are stronger in places they were not.

He will help the Democrats to take over both the senate and the house.

He is playing on your fears. In the last week, he has supported Bush, Rubio and Obama on immigration. He will change on a dime.

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"risen," says Harvard professor and trade expert Robert Lawrence. "In aggregate, the economy is close to full employment."

""History shows that trade made easy, affordable and fast...always begets more trade, more jobs, more prosperity," the founder and CEO of FedEx wrote in a recent Wall Street Journal op-ed.
Who's right? Take a look at what has happened to blue-collar workers.
Manufacturing jobs in the U.S. actually increased in the years after the North America Free Trade Agreement with Mexico and Canada went into effect in 1994.
But the story changed dramatically in 2000. Since then, the U.S. has shed 5 million manufacturing jobs, a fact opponents of free trade mention often."

"Trump and Bernie Sanders blame China for undercutting American workers with cheap labor (even Trump makes a lot of his suits and ties overseas). But there's another big factor: technology. Robots and machines are also replacing workers. The tech trend would have happened regardless of trade."

""Trump's talk on trade is bluster," says economist Charles Ballard of Michigan State University. "Even if you did [what Trump says], you wouldn't reverse the technology, which is a very big part of the picture."
Trump's threat to put hefty taxes on Chinese and Mexican goods coming into the country would likely to sink the economy into a recession. It would make many items at the store more expensive for working class Americans and spark a global trade war.
The U.S. tried this tactic in the 1930s with a law known as Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act. It backfired, pulling the U.S. further into the Great Depression."

U.S. has lost 5 million manufacturing jobs since 2000 - Mar. 29, 2016 (http://money.cnn.com/2016/03/29/news/economy/us-manufacturing-jobs/)

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you may want to consider expanding your sources

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Another desperate and confused liberal. My, my, my!
Lies? I hear you make that statement, but I do not hear you give us his quoted lies from his speech. Trump ate Hillary's lunch and the polls are proving it. And Nov 8 will be the ultimate proof.



Trump needs 40% plus of the Hispanic vote to win the election. What did he say in his speech to attract Hispanics? He consistently polls in the teens with Hispanics and 2 or 3% with blacks.

He walked right into a trap. All Hillary has to do is replay his speech on a loop from now until Nov 8

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People in trumps inner circle know that trump will make Mexico and offer they can't refuse.

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Trump needs 40% plus of the Hispanic vote to win the election. What did he say in his speech to attract Hispanics? He consistently polls in the teens with Hispanics and 2 or 3% with blacks.

He walked right into a trap. All Hillary has to do is replay his speech on a loop from now until Nov 8
That speech was part 1968 George Wallace and part 1930's Germany. He sure knows his audience.

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Trump needs 40% plus of the Hispanic vote to win the election. What did he say in his speech to attract Hispanics? He consistently polls in the teens with Hispanics and 2 or 3% with blacks.

He walked right into a trap. All Hillary has to do is replay his speech on a loop from now until Nov 8

Right all those illegals will vote for HRC, but how do they register to vote?

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I am a Democrat an I say NEVER HILLARY!

I think you're no being truthful on either count.

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Let's talk about coward......while Trump put his life on the line to go to Mexico to form a relationship with the country and its president, Killary was nowhere to be found even though she was invited to Mexico. Mr. trump was very smart in not talking about the wall or who's paying for it. You don't go to a foreign country for the first time and meet the president and start conversation with a bitter topic. Mr. Trump will form a relationship with Mexico's president and they will then talk about the wall.

Mr. Trump has shown his love for America and its citizens and is willing to risk his life to become president and do what's right for our country. On the other hand, Killary just sits back, continues to lie, lie, lie and dodge any questions regarding the boarder, ISIS, the deletion of 33,000+++ emails, why people around her are "mysteriously" dying, how she will fix healthcare, her declining health or the fraudulent Clinton Foundation. These are important issues the American people have the right to know about and SHE'S the coward for not talking about the issues. Watch Clinton Cash and Hillary's America and then tell me who the coward is.

Put his life on the line?? :1rotfl::1rotfl:

Pardon me, but you're in a fact-free zone once again.

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it did take guts to go there.

where's fat butt Hellary

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she wouldn't go to Mexico unless they donated to her Foundation

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Trump needs 40% plus of the Hispanic vote to win the election. What did he say in his speech to attract Hispanics? He consistently polls in the teens with Hispanics and 2 or 3% with blacks.

He walked right into a trap. All Hillary has to do is replay his speech on a loop from now until Nov 8

Actually, he does not need 40% of the Hispanic vote to win. But, keep throwing out those figures if you wish. Hillary is her own worst enemy, as is Trump. Difference is that Trump knows how to win by brute force. Hillary tries to win by hook or crook, mostly crook. But, her past is catching up with her and even her own party voters are abandoning her. Unlike the Republicans that say they won't vote for Trump, but will secretly, Hillary's supporters insist they will vote for her and won't. Hillary can't even get a couple hundred supporters to show up for her rallies. They had to pay people to fill up the seats at the DNC convention. SO pathetic and pitiful.

Trump will win by a landslide, due to non-participation of the left. Trump still has motivation. Hillary is starting to look haggard, more than usual. The stress is getting to her and she looks ill. Kaine, the clown will probably have to take over for her before long.

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it did take guts to go there.

where's fat butt Hellary

She's using her "fat butt" as an outdoor movie screen to make a few more bucks. Kind of like pedaling her behind...:yuck:

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Right all those illegals will vote for HRC, but how do they register to vote?

Since voter ID is not required, it's easy. The dead are voting for the left also.

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Kaine, the clown will probably have to take over for her before long.

Does he look like WC Fields?

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And with homeland security (:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:) in charge of the election there will be plenty of lattitude and acceptable excuses for having voted more than once; plus any warm body of any age....or using their name.......

How can anybody with a brain NOT WANT voter registration along with voter ID?

That issue in and of itself should explain the loosey goosey election results......with an auto wave of the arm by homeland security.

Homeland security's other job, is to hold up and challenge any and all locations that are overwhelmingly Trump supported.

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I'm ME and I'm not cattle or sheep...I'll vote for NEITHER of the crooks. The lesser of two evils is still evil.

I think we have all lost faith in our government.
We have just gone through OBAMA. While I did not vote for Obama, IT WOULD HAVE GIVEN ME PLEASURE TO SAY I WAS WRONG ABOUT HIM. Sadly, I was more right then I realized.

In the next election we will choose between Hillary an INSIDER, very skilled at working the system-the CLINTON GANG apparently getting away with yet another CRIME-RUNNING FOR AN ILLEGAL THIRD TERM and TRUMP essentially a FREE AGENT who refuses to be BOUGHT by people like SOROS, BUFFET, SAUDI ARABIA ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC.

If, you refuse your duty to choose, others will make the choice. I suppose you can then claim if it like OBAMA works out to be a POOR CHOICE-that it was not your choice. I voted for Mccaine and in the second election I voted for Rhomney so I am free of BLAME but I still get to PAY for the results of the choice too many others made.

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I think we have all lost faith in our government.
We have just gone through OBAMA. While I did not vote for Obama, IT WOULD HAVE GIVEN ME PLEASURE TO SAY I WAS WRONG ABOUT HIM. Sadly, I was more right then I realized.

In the next election we will choose between Hillary an INSIDER, very skilled at working the system-the CLINTON GANG apparently getting away with yet another CRIME-RUNNING FOR AN ILLEGAL THIRD TERM and TRUMP essentially a FREE AGENT who refuses to be BOUGHT by people like SOROS, BUFFET, SAUDI ARABIA ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC.

If, you refuse your duty to choose, others will make the choice. I suppose you can then claim if it like OBAMA works out to be a POOR CHOICE-that it was not your choice. I voted for Mccaine and in the second election I voted for Rhomney so I am free of BLAME but I still get to PAY for the results of the choice too many others made.

There is no illegal third term. Your parroting makes you look like a fool

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you may want to consider expanding your sources

What source would you trust ? Post a note on the sources you trust and I will do your research.

I might add two things. Do not list Fox or Breitbart ,

Secondly, all this pompous talk comes with a price tag, as he accuses everyone else of enlarging national debt.

"Trump laid out policy proposals Wednesday night, and for many of them, we can provide at least a rough estimate of the cost using a variety of sources. There are some programs, though, for which we don't have solid details or estimates.

According to the numbers we do have, Trump's plan would add $51.2 billion and $66.9 billion in immigration enforcement costs over the next five years."

Trump’s big immigration crackdown comes with big 5-year price tag: More than $50 billion - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/09/01/trumps-big-immigration-crackdown-comes-with-a-big-5-year-price-tag-more-than-50-billion/)

The link supplies details, and if you don't like that number...there are higher cost reduction. I will be glad to research that for you.

This fantasy costs money

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"Another recent estimate calculated that the cost of deportation would be disastrous for the US economy. According to the right-leaning American Action Forum, it would take between $400 billion and $600 billion to deport 11 million people without proper documentation over 20 years."

How much does Donald Trump's immigration plan cost? - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/how-much-does-donald-trumps-immigration-plan-cost-2015-8)

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I think we have all lost faith in our government.
We have just gone through OBAMA. While I did not vote for Obama, IT WOULD HAVE GIVEN ME PLEASURE TO SAY I WAS WRONG ABOUT HIM. Sadly, I was more right then I realized.

In the next election we will choose between Hillary an INSIDER, very skilled at working the system-the CLINTON GANG apparently getting away with yet another CRIME-RUNNING FOR AN ILLEGAL THIRD TERM and TRUMP essentially a FREE AGENT who refuses to be BOUGHT by people like SOROS, BUFFET, SAUDI ARABIA ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC.

If, you refuse your duty to choose, others will make the choice. I suppose you can then claim if it like OBAMA works out to be a POOR CHOICE-that it was not your choice. I voted for Mccaine and in the second election I voted for Rhomney so I am free of BLAME but I still get to PAY for the results of the choice too many others made.

I think you're mistaken. Trump is bought and paid for. Bought and paid for by Trump himself.

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"Another recent estimate calculated that the cost of deportation would be disastrous for the US economy. According to the right-leaning American Action Forum, it would take between $400 billion and $600 billion to deport 11 million people without proper documentation over 20 years."

How much does Donald Trump's immigration plan cost? - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/how-much-does-donald-trumps-immigration-plan-cost-2015-8)
Beyond the cost, who is going to replace them? Restaurants, hotels, etc. would be in deep trouble. Think Las Vegas. Also who's going to replace the agricultural workers? Rather than running them out on a rail we'd be much better off giving them a chance to become citizens through a controlled amnesty program.

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Beyond the cost, who is going to replace them? Restaurants, hotels, etc. would be in deep trouble. Think Las Vegas. Also who's going to replace the agricultural workers? Rather than running them out on a rail we'd be much better off giving them a chance to become citizens through a controlled amnesty program.

Gee...that sounds familiar.

Of course Trump made fun of it, the people who proposed it, AND their family.

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Another desperate and confused liberal. My, my, my!
Lies? I hear you make that statement, but I do not hear you give us his quoted lies from his speech. Trump ate Hillary's lunch and the polls are proving it. And Nov 8 will be the ultimate proof.

I am not a liberal, and I am mot confused.

At the beginning of the speech, he stated Obama has an open border policy. Later, he stated that Obama, and Clinton had a catch and release policy on the border. Obama has deported more illegals than every other president. Most of these were either caught or turned themselves at the border. Trump praised Obama for this, and he said he would continue that policy. trump isn't lying. He is just talking out of both sides of his mouth at the same time.

He stated that illegals cost 113 billion a year. This number comes from a conservative group. Trump stating it as fact is a lie. It isn't a fact. Illegal Immigrants Cost U.S. $100 Billion per Year, Conservative Group Says About Illegal Immigration - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/Business/illegal-immigrants-cost-us-100-billion-year-group/story?id=10699317)

"Illegals workers draw much more out from the system than they can ever possibly pay back." Again, read the article above, and look at the jobs that work at. They are the bottom of the totem pole. Alabama put in tough immigration laws, and it also put the farmers out of business. No one wanted to do the work of picking fruit/vegetables/ etc. The crops died.

"They are treated better than vets." That is total nonsense.

He stated that 2 million were criminals. The estimates are between 600,000 and 2,000,000. are criminals. An honest person would used some number in the middle.

He has made the wall and Mexico paying for it as his signature policy. The previous Mexican president, and the current one have both stated that Mexico will not pay for the wall.

I could go on and on, but it would fall on deaf ears. So, I am not going to waste any more of my time. Besides, reading his speech really or what past for a speech

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but you're basing your argument on a 6 year old article?

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113 billion is the correct dollar amount.

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I am not a liberal, and I am mot confused.

At the beginning of the speech, he stated Obama has an open border policy. Later, he stated that Obama, and Clinton had a catch and release policy on the border. Obama has deported more illegals than every other president. Most of these were either caught or turned themselves at the border. Trump praised Obama for this, and he said he would continue that policy. trump isn't lying. He is just talking out of both sides of his mouth at the same time.

He stated that illegals cost 113 billion a year. This number comes from a conservative group. Trump stating it as fact is a lie. It isn't a fact. Illegal Immigrants Cost U.S. $100 Billion per Year, Conservative Group Says About Illegal Immigration - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/Business/illegal-immigrants-cost-us-100-billion-year-group/story?id=10699317)

"Illegals workers draw much more out from the system than they can ever possibly pay back." Again, read the article above, and look at the jobs that work at. They are the bottom of the totem pole. Alabama put in tough immigration laws, and it also put the farmers out of business. No one wanted to do the work of picking fruit/vegetables/ etc. The crops died.

"They are treated better than vets." That is total nonsense.

He stated that 2 million were criminals. The estimates are between 600,000 and 2,000,000. are criminals. An honest person would used some number in the middle.

He has made the wall and Mexico paying for it as his signature policy. The previous Mexican president, and the current one have both stated that Mexico will not pay for the wall.

I could go on and on, but it would fall on deaf ears. So, I am not going to waste any more of my time. Besides, reading his speech really or what past for a speech

So you think 600,000 to 2,000,000,000 criminals roaming around is fine! No wonder Obama got elected twice!

Not that hard to get Mexico to pay for the wall, just charge them a very small % of what we spend on social services for their citizens!

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"Another recent estimate calculated that the cost of deportation would be disastrous for the US economy. According to the right-leaning American Action Forum, it would take between $400 billion and $600 billion to deport 11 million people without proper documentation over 20 years."

How much does Donald Trump's immigration plan cost? - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/how-much-does-donald-trumps-immigration-plan-cost-2015-8)

Money well spent

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Money well spent
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I will contribute to that, but I can't, next best thing.....


Make America Great Again! | Donald J Trump for President (https://www.donaldjtrump.com)

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but you're basing your argument on a 6 year old article?

.....means it will be more costly....

This wall, this plan....it ain't never gonna happen. He knows it, and if you are even thinking a little, you have to know it.

Cheer all you wish....harangue Clinton (deserved by the way) all you want but the guy is conning you all.

Logic and common sense sometimes is scarce.

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Bottom line is this!
Trump is the only Presidential candidate that will do
anything to get our borders secured.
He also will do much better at enforcing our
current immigration laws.
Clinton will do nothing to be able to keep the Hispanic votes!

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Bottom line is this!
Trump is the only Presidential candidate that will do
anything to get our borders secured.
He also will do much better at enforcing our
current immigration laws.
Clinton will do nothing to be able to keep the Hispanic votes!

Do you even know how many illegals have been deported under Obama ? Actually a record number.

Do you even know the increased spending on border security in the last few years, CONTROLLED BY CONGRESS

Trump plants this seeds of fear and hate but they do not stand up under scrutiny.

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Do you even know how many illegals have been deported under Obama ? Actually a record number.

y.


you may want to read this

Deportations plummet 43% under Obama (http://www.wnd.com/2016/05/deportations-plummet-43-under-obama/)

Deportations plummet 43% under Obama

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Do you even know how many illegals have been deported under Obama ? Actually a record number.

Do you even know the increased spending on border security in the last few years, CONTROLLED BY CONGRESS

Trump plants this seeds of fear and hate but they do not stand up under scrutiny.

You seem to leave out any mention of securing our borders.
If we truly had secure borders deporting illegal
criminals wouldn't be a big problem would it?
Apparently the spending you refer to isn't enough,
to secure our borders. Plus the fact is,
the current administration has no
will to stem the flow of illegals or enforce
fully our immigration laws all for political gains.

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you may want to read this

Deportations plummet 43% under Obama (http://www.wnd.com/2016/05/deportations-plummet-43-under-obama/)

Deportations plummet 43% under Obama

And there would be no need to deport if we had secure borders!
:spoken:

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you may want to read this

Deportations plummet 43% under Obama (http://www.wnd.com/2016/05/deportations-plummet-43-under-obama/)

Deportations plummet 43% under Obama

I hate threads where people use websites like you did. I would trust not one word I ever read on WND...the site that wasted so much time chasing conspiracies...lots. They are listed as a supporter of white supremicst nationalism, they chased Obama birth certificate for so long, ..bottom line, this is not a credible website or source of anything but the lasted conspiracy theory.

But, in the interest of discussion, I offer...Reuters, ABC news, and politifact as credible alternatives because frankly WND is not ven close


Tracking Obama’s deportation numbers (http://blogs.reuters.com/data-dive/2015/02/25/tracking-obamas-deportation-numbers/)

Obama Has Deported More People Than Any Other President - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obamas-deportation-policy-numbers/story?id=41715661)

Obama Has Deported More People Than Any Other President - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obamas-deportation-policy-numbers/story?id=41715661)

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And there would be no need to deport if we had secure borders!
:spoken:

You people must stop reading sites that validate your thoughts without checking them out. World Net Daily, is in fact a white supremicst site that never met a conspiracy they did not embrace

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You people must stop reading sites that validate your thoughts without checking them out. World Net Daily, is in fact a white supremicst site that never met a conspiracy they did not embrace

Your assumptions are incorrect, plus they are just
speculation and not fact!

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So you think 600,000 to 2,000,000,000 criminals roaming around is fine! No wonder Obama got elected twice!

Not that hard to get Mexico to pay for the wall, just charge them a very small % of what we spend on social services for their citizens!

You are a perfect Trump supporter. You are following his lead. Just make things up, and then show your outrage for something that never happened.

Where did I say that 600,000 to 2,000,000 (not 2 billion) roaming around this country is fine? When you have a range, most educated people would not use the highest number. They would an average. He used 2 million to get as much outrage as he could.
By the way, illegal alien criminals are already targeted by law by every president including this one to be deported. Trump isn't doing anything new.

You didn't read the article that I posted. Your last statement is totally wrong, and not even that creative.

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I am a Democrat an I say NEVER HILLARY!

I'm a republican and I say trump is a con man and buffoon.

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I think we have all lost faith in our government.
We have just gone through OBAMA. While I did not vote for Obama, IT WOULD HAVE GIVEN ME PLEASURE TO SAY I WAS WRONG ABOUT HIM. Sadly, I was more right then I realized.

In the next election we will choose between Hillary an INSIDER, very skilled at working the system-the CLINTON GANG apparently getting away with yet another CRIME-RUNNING FOR AN ILLEGAL THIRD TERM and TRUMP essentially a FREE AGENT who refuses to be BOUGHT by people like SOROS, BUFFET, SAUDI ARABIA ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC.

If, you refuse your duty to choose, others will make the choice. I suppose you can then claim if it like OBAMA works out to be a POOR CHOICE-that it was not your choice. I voted for Mccaine and in the second election I voted for Rhomney so I am free of BLAME but I still get to PAY for the results of the choice too many others made.

You voted for losers and that is what you are, little man. And learn how to spell, but what can you expect from a loser.

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I'm a republican and I say trump is a con man and buffoon.

I am a Republican for 50 years, and I KNOW he is a con man and buffoon is being very kind.

I will be leaving the GOP because it is becoming the party of hate.

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And there would be no need to deport if we had secure borders!
:spoken:

We NEED to deport...there are over 100,000,000 of them here now including anchor babies.

You are a perfect Trump supporter. You are following his lead. Just make things up, and then show your outrage for something that never happened.

Where did I say that 600,000 to 2,000,000 (not 2 billion) roaming around this country is fine? When you have a range, most educated people would not use the highest number. They would an average. He used 2 million to get as much outrage as he could.
By the way, illegal alien criminals are already targeted by law by every president including this one to be deported. Trump isn't doing anything new.

You didn't read the article that I posted. Your last statement is totally wrong, and not even that creative.

1/3rd the population is Hispanic.

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There is no illegal third term. Your parroting makes you look like a fool



Let me make it S I M P L E for you.

IF, you believe the CLINTONS-out of BILLS truth spinning mouth, when he was PRESIDENT he reported that IT WAS THE CLINTON TEAM. The CLINTON team served two terms.

FOLLOW THE MATH NOW- 1+1+1=three. THERE IS A TWO TERM LIMIT.

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I'm a republican and I say trump is a con man and buffoon.

You are a troll and a buffoon, so what!

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I am a Republican for 50 years, and I KNOW he is a con man and buffoon is being very kind.

I will be leaving the GOP because it is becoming the party of hate.

You are no Republican, and the real haters are the
intolerant leftists that have taken over the Democratic Party!

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Trump is a horrible person and his supporters are no better. Good riddance to all of you morons.

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Trump is a horrible person and his supporters are no better. Good riddance to all of you morons.

The above load of b$ provided by a nasty, intolerant lib Dem leftist! :a040:

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"risen," says Harvard professor and trade expert Robert Lawrence. "In aggregate, the economy is close to full employment."

""History shows that trade made easy, affordable and fast...always begets more trade, more jobs, more prosperity," the founder and CEO of FedEx wrote in a recent Wall Street Journal op-ed.
Who's right? Take a look at what has happened to blue-collar workers.
Manufacturing jobs in the U.S. actually increased in the years after the North America Free Trade Agreement with Mexico and Canada went into effect in 1994.
But the story changed dramatically in 2000. Since then, the U.S. has shed 5 million manufacturing jobs, a fact opponents of free trade mention often."

"Trump and Bernie Sanders blame China for undercutting American workers with cheap labor (even Trump makes a lot of his suits and ties overseas). But there's another big factor: technology. Robots and machines are also replacing workers. The tech trend would have happened regardless of trade."

""Trump's talk on trade is bluster," says economist Charles Ballard of Michigan State University. "Even if you did [what Trump says], you wouldn't reverse the technology, which is a very big part of the picture."
Trump's threat to put hefty taxes on Chinese and Mexican goods coming into the country would likely to sink the economy into a recession. It would make many items at the store more expensive for working class Americans and spark a global trade war.
The U.S. tried this tactic in the 1930s with a law known as Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act. It backfired, pulling the U.S. further into the Great Depression."

U.S. has lost 5 million manufacturing jobs since 2000 - Mar. 29, 2016 (http://money.cnn.com/2016/03/29/news/economy/us-manufacturing-jobs/)

I've enjoyed collecting and using hand woodworking tools.
The finest planes for example, were made in England. A famous brand was Morris. Today, if you can find an antique one, they are no longer made, and you were to use it, you would see a dramatic difference between that and the planes you are likely familiar with the Bailey/Stanley plane. The far cheaper, American made plane put the better, far more expensive, English planes out of business-I'm sure as we now do with the Chinese. the English accused the Americans of unfair practices.
Today, the Stanley plane has been cheapened. The best of them are not as good as what was made before WWII and there are cheaper copies from places like china and india. It is ironic that branded stanley planes are made in England.
Things always have been and always will made the best and cheapest way. For high quantity that might well be a robot. BUT, for smaller quantities, human labor might well be cheaper as a robot is not inexpensive and you still need people to program it and to repair it.

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"risen," says Harvard professor and trade expert Robert Lawrence. "In aggregate, the economy is close to full employment."

""History shows that trade made easy, affordable and fast...always begets more trade, more jobs, more prosperity," the founder and CEO of FedEx wrote in a recent Wall Street Journal op-ed.
Who's right? Take a look at what has happened to blue-collar workers.
Manufacturing jobs in the U.S. actually increased in the years after the North America Free Trade Agreement with Mexico and Canada went into effect in 1994.
But the story changed dramatically in 2000. Since then, the U.S. has shed 5 million manufacturing jobs, a fact opponents of free trade mention often."

"Trump and Bernie Sanders blame China for undercutting American workers with cheap labor (even Trump makes a lot of his suits and ties overseas). But there's another big factor: technology. Robots and machines are also replacing workers. The tech trend would have happened regardless of trade."

""Trump's talk on trade is bluster," says economist Charles Ballard of Michigan State University. "Even if you did [what Trump says], you wouldn't reverse the technology, which is a very big part of the picture."
Trump's threat to put hefty taxes on Chinese and Mexican goods coming into the country would likely to sink the economy into a recession. It would make many items at the store more expensive for working class Americans and spark a global trade war.
The U.S. tried this tactic in the 1930s with a law known as Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act. It backfired, pulling the U.S. further into the Great Depression."

U.S. has lost 5 million manufacturing jobs since 2000 - Mar. 29, 2016 (http://money.cnn.com/2016/03/29/news/economy/us-manufacturing-jobs/)

Just because a person is a professor DOES NOT MAKE HIM RIGHT-CORRECT.
Full employment-that term is not clearly defined. Labor has changed over the years. For example, we have outlawed child labor and unlike pre WWII it is very common for both the father and the mother to work. ASIDE: re: equal pay for equal work. Under capitalism, if you have two exactly the same workers applying for the same job and one is 10% less expensive-woman's claim-you would hire the woman. It is clear that business has found that a man is worth % more-perhaps, due to the fact that he will not get pregnant. He is less likely to call in sick because of a sick kid etc. AND the guys wife may not trust him to work with women-REMINDER-BILLY CLINTON.

RE: Loss of jobs to china due to lower cost labor
I find it interesting that Germany with a labor cost at least as high as the US is doing just fine with manufacturing. For the auto industry, they went in to automation long before our union controlled auto industry could do it. There was a time when 80% of the cars in the world were made by GM.

RE: free trade
We have the most productive farms in the world. We can and do produce farm products at lower cost than much of the rest of the world. FREE TRADE? Japan for example protects their far more expensive rice producers by not allowing American rice into the country. We on the other hand give tax breaks so that the Japanese, the germans and perhaps others will build assembly plants here damaging what is left of the american auto industry.
FREE TRADE-needs to be two way. PERHAPS, SOMETHING TRUMP WILL NEGOTIATE. If, you are not aware, OBAMA gave Chrysler to Fiat. When, he did this Fiat was itself in financial trouble. The most profitable part of Chrysler is the JEEP line. Thanks to OBAMA"S deal making skills,
and the fact that we have among the highest corporate taxes in the world, FIAT is coming out with a new jeep model AND IT WILL BE MADE IN ITALY.

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So, eliminate the confusion, how will Trump ever get Congress to approve his wall? He said that he will start building the wall on day one of his presidency. So, he thinks that he has the power to do this.

When the gang of eight came up with their bipartisan immigration plan, it had to be comprehensive. The Democrats would never agree with a plan that had the wall being built first, because they knew there would never be a step two. Why would they do it now? Because Trump is Trump.

Trump is doer. Too funny. All he does is lie. He goes to Mexico, and acts presidential. He comes back to the US, and delivers a speech that only his alt right people agree with. His speech last night wasn't presidential. It was far from it. It was dictatorial. He performs for the audience that is in front of him. Saturday should be funny. Let's see if he gives a speech like the one in Bulworth.

I find it interesting that we are talking about our boarder with mexico. Our boarder with Canada is as porous and is far longer. REMINDER-the SAUDIS that dropped the World Trade Center, came in through CANADA.

I also find it interesting how confrontational the posts and far too many like them are.

The price of sealing our boarders, will be paid not only in dollars but in loss of privacy and FREEDOM.

We could easily control illegal aliens and criminals in general if we were to allow our police to randomly stop people and demand proof of citizenship or a green card.
Can you imagine what would happen. The charges of racial profiling? The screaming the cops are stopping too many Hispanics and or too many muslims.

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Sept.10th , 2005 Washington Post : States that hijackers of 9/11 did not enter the US thru Canada

" In the weeks after the attacks, investigators established that all of the hijackers entered the United States from countries other than Canada, a finding that got the official stamp last summer with the release of the Sept. 11 commission report. But that has not stopped the story from spreading."

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Death By China - the Documentary Film by Director Peter Navarro (http://deathbychina.com)


If anyone has not seen this film, please do.

This is the result of "free trade" administered by corrupt politicians.

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I find it interesting that we are talking about our boarder with mexico. Our boarder with Canada is as porous and is far longer. REMINDER-the SAUDIS that dropped the World Trade Center, came in through CANADA.

I also find it interesting how confrontational the posts and far too many like them are.

The price of sealing our boarders, will be paid not only in dollars but in loss of privacy and FREEDOM.

We could easily control illegal aliens and criminals in general if we were to allow our police to randomly stop people and demand proof of citizenship or a green card.
Can you imagine what would happen. The charges of racial profiling? The screaming the cops are stopping too many Hispanics and or too many muslims.

First off, it's "borders"

Second, the cost of illegals in our country far exceeds in one year what a wall will cost to build.

Third, the border is not just to keep terrorists out. It's to keep CRIMINALS out and everyone that comes into our country is a criminal, whether they are coming in here to circumvent our laws or to smuggle drugs or to commit terrorism.

I have no idea what you mean about "the loss of privacy and freedom" but your whole post makes little sense anyway.

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Immigration laws are enacted to protect our countries integrity,
so when these laws are broken it is to the detriment of our country.

There are plenty of people that want to immigrate to our
country legally, and an immigrant that enters legally
can be vetted and assimilated much better. And we know
where and who they are.

I lay responsibility for the current situation at the doorsteps of both the Democrats & Republicans
who for purely political reasons have allowed such a disservice to all American citizens!

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All of these posts make normal people crazy and dizzy. I have come to the conclusion that the people of Florida just should not vote, this is a stupid state, my proof is we are the state that DID LET CASEY ANTHONY TO GET AWAY WITH MURDER! What we have in this election is, one is bad, and one is horrible, so your choice is which venereal disease would you rather have for the next 4 years, syphilis or gonorrhea? While you really don not want either one can be found out rather quickly and removed quickly, the other can be there for years before you realize there is even a problem and then it's too late you're brain damaged. Remember elections have consequences so think before you get in bed with either one of these 2. Now on a lighter note Trumps wife barely speaks english so who know what profound things she will do for God and Country, although rumor has it ( Trump loves rumors ) the modeling agency she worked for was also an escort service, so what will she do as first lady? What will Billy boy do as first man? We all know his track record! I bet the Lincoln Bedroom goes back into service whoever is in the White House! Could be a real BIG money maker!!!!

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All of these posts make normal people crazy and dizzy. I have come to the conclusion that the people of Florida just should not vote, this is a stupid state, my proof is we are the state that DID LET CASEY ANTHONY TO GET AWAY WITH MURDER! What we have in this election is, one is bad, and one is horrible, so your choice is which venereal disease would you rather have for the next 4 years, syphilis or gonorrhea? While you really don not want either one can be found out rather quickly and removed quickly, the other can be there for years before you realize there is even a problem and then it's too late you're brain damaged. Remember elections have consequences so think before you get in bed with either one of these 2. Now on a lighter note Trumps wife barely speaks english so who know what profound things she will do for God and Country, although rumor has it ( Trump loves rumors ) the modeling agency she worked for was also an escort service, so what will she do as first lady? What will Billy boy do as first man? We all know his track record! I bet the Lincoln Bedroom goes back into service whoever is in the White House! Could be a real BIG money maker!!!!

After I read your post I can see what you mean about them making a person crazy or dizzy! :ohdear:

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Immigration laws are enacted to protect our countries integrity,
so when these laws are broken it is to the detriment of our country.

There are plenty of people that want to immigrate to our
country legally, and an immigrant that enters legally
can be vetted and assimilated much better. And we know
where and who they are.

I lay responsibility for the current situation at the doorsteps of both the Democrats & Republicans
who for purely political reasons have allowed such a disservice to all American citizens!

Well said. :clap2: