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09-08-2016, 09:03 AM
Trump has said numerous times that he "Loves Debt". This is foreshadowing his economic and other policies for our country. He says build a 2000 mile wall with "hi tech" sensors and cameras and increased border guards. Sounds like $$$$$. Guess what, Bush tried this, spent millions and the program failed.
Trump wants to spend billions on increasing military and stopping ISIS, sounds like $$$$$$$.
Trump wants to pay for private care for vets more $$$$$$
But here's the problem, Trump also wants to "cut taxes". How in the world is Trump going to pay for all of these things and cut taxes. Oh, thats right Trump "LOVES DEBT". In fact it's estimated that Trump's businesses are $650 million in debt.
Ah yes, make America Great Again with more DEBT
Guest
09-08-2016, 09:05 AM
Obama must really like debt, to the tune of $10 trillion dollars and he didn't do anything with the money.
Guest
09-08-2016, 09:17 AM
Obama must really like debt, to the tune of $10 trillion dollars and he didn't do anything with the money.
Look at all the shovel projects!
Guest
09-08-2016, 09:19 AM
Debt in big business is purposeful.
Debt in government is inexcuseable and incompetent!
Guest
09-08-2016, 09:22 AM
Trump has said numerous times that he "Loves Debt". This is foreshadowing his economic and other policies for our country. He says build a 2000 mile wall with "hi tech" sensors and cameras and increased border guards. Sounds like $$$$$. Guess what, Bush tried this, spent millions and the program failed.
Trump wants to spend billions on increasing military and stopping ISIS, sounds like $$$$$$$.
Trump wants to pay for private care for vets more $$$$$$
But here's the problem, Trump also wants to "cut taxes". How in the world is Trump going to pay for all of these things and cut taxes. Oh, thats right Trump "LOVES DEBT". In fact it's estimated that Trump's businesses are $650 million in debt.
Ah yes, make America Great Again with more DEBT
Fair question.
Btw, which UF is number 1?
If you mean university of Fraud, I think that's either Obama or Clinton alma mater.
Guest
09-08-2016, 09:32 AM
Obama must really like debt, to the tune of $10 trillion dollars and he didn't do anything with the money.
Nice try pinning all the debt on Obama, but inaccurate as usual.
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Guest
09-08-2016, 09:33 AM
Fair question.
Btw, which UF is number 1?
If you mean university of Fraud, I think that's either Obama or Clinton alma mater.
Wow you missed the best of all Trump University, the essence of fraud
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09-08-2016, 09:34 AM
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09-08-2016, 10:25 AM
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Pre-packaged BS!
Guest
09-08-2016, 11:09 AM
Lyin' Donnie also loves to stiff people who hold his debt. Lyin' Donnie Junior said recently that Trump is having trouble getting any financing in the US because of all his bankruptcies.
Guest
09-08-2016, 11:13 AM
Trump has said numerous times that he "Loves Debt". This is foreshadowing his economic and other policies for our country. He says build a 2000 mile wall with "hi tech" sensors and cameras and increased border guards. Sounds like $$$$$. Guess what, Bush tried this, spent millions and the program failed.
Trump wants to spend billions on increasing military and stopping ISIS, sounds like $$$$$$$.
Trump wants to pay for private care for vets more $$$$$$
But here's the problem, Trump also wants to "cut taxes". How in the world is Trump going to pay for all of these things and cut taxes. Oh, thats right Trump "LOVES DEBT". In fact it's estimated that Trump's businesses are $650 million in debt.
Ah yes, make America Great Again with more DEBT
RE: debt
We all are aware that Obama added TEN TRILLION DOLLARS to the national debt. BUT, what do we know?
i for one have repeatedly asked and frankly personally tried to discover WHAT DID HE BUY WITH TEN TRILLION DOLLARS?
To my shock, I have discover that contrary to what most of our people think China is not our largest creditor we actually owe slightly more to Japan then to china-HEY WHAT'S A FEW BILLION BETWEEN ??????FRIENDS???????
More important to the retired people-Japan and China together hold less than 20% of our National debt. SOCIAL SECURITY HOLDS 42% OF THE NATIONAL DEBT. Understand that-we I trusted our government to hold the money they forced me to pay into that system for 45 years of working AND THEY, AND OBAMA, SPENT MY MONEY.
RE: Tax cut
Realize that what has always been the case re: taxes-everyone wants but no one wants to pay. YOU like the res of us want OTHERS TO PAY but not us. We have heard about corporations paying zero tax, Hey people a corporation is just a paper document. The profit is distributed to the stock holders AND THEY PAY TAX ON THAT MONEY. For those of you that do not own stocks and are screaming that they should increase taxes on stock holders as they have SAVED MONEY-that they have paid income tax on-and now thanks to the Bush tax cuts pay a max of 15% on dividends. WELL realize that even if you think you don't own stocks YOU DO. Your union pension, your 401k, your 403b etc are all invested in stocks.
As to spending money on our military. This too has been a problem throughout history. First of all having a military is expensive. The tax payers, YOU INCLUDED, do not want to pay for it, so having a military and not using it becomes impossible. Eisenhower delivered his famous speech, warning us to beware of the industrial military complex. So much of our research is funded by the military so it is considered for military application. Much of it is also used for and by civilians. Digital photography was invented for the military. It is the only practical way that we have found to transmit SPY photos to earth from space satellites. There are many others such a plastic surgery, gps, nylon, even flight-the wright brothers received some military funding.
BALANCE-frankly I do not know but it is DOMESTIC SPENDING, and on the other side, we spend more on our military then the entire rest of the world does.
As I've already stated, Obama added TEN TRILLION DOLLARS TO THE NATIONAL DEBT. For better or worse IT IS DONE. To pay that INCOMPREHENSIBLE SUM we MUST cut the big stuff. The problem is we think the big stuff is sacred.
To pay the OBAMA DEBT, we must cut the MILITARY, EDUCATION, AND SOCIAL SECURITY.
Guest
09-08-2016, 11:15 AM
They ALL love debt...lets be real here. The country borrows...they profit. It doesn't get any better...for them.
Guest
09-08-2016, 11:19 AM
As I've already stated, Obama added TEN TRILLION DOLLARS TO THE NATIONAL DEBT. For better or worse IT IS DONE. To pay that INCOMPREHENSIBLE SUM we MUST cut the big stuff. The problem is we think the big stuff is sacred.
To pay the OBAMA DEBT, we must cut the MILITARY, EDUCATION, AND SOCIAL SECURITY.
It'll NEVER get paid. They'll roll it over forever.
No...we MUST cut welfare to people and corporations. That is our BIGGEST expense.
Guest
09-08-2016, 11:21 AM
Hillary doesn't try to fake it. She stole gov property in the thousands (a felony) from the White House when they left. After all, the Clintons left the White House dirt poor.
Interesting that they have to launder foreign donations through their Global Initiative in Canada before it is then sent to the Clinton Foundation where less than ten percent goes to charities and the rest goes to administration such as paying the Clintons, paying for the Clinton's travel, boarding and dining. Amazing how they could be dirt poor when they left D.C. and now have hundreds of millions of bucks. Not bad for unemployment. Nothing crooked here folks.
And she didn't lie to anyone about her email because she doesn't remember. If one doesn't remember, then it can't be construed a lie. After all, there was no intent....ha,ha.
Guest
09-08-2016, 01:11 PM
Nice try pinning all the debt on Obama, but inaccurate as usual.
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YOU might READ what you have posted. Date for Obama numbers is 10-13. I just looked to confirm it is 9/8/16.
The numbers are Obama has added TEN TRILLION DOLLARS TO THE NATIONAL DEBT.
Do you understand what TEN TRILLION DOLLARS IS?
Truth be told, I for one understand that the number is simply incomprehensible.
REALIZE-WE HAVE ALL BEEN HAD.
I once again, WITH NO REPLY, ASK WHAT DID OBAMA BUY WITH ALL THAT MONEY????? He just gave 1.5 BILLION to Iran as a clear RANSOM for a few Americans. That 1.5 billion would not even show in the TEN TRILLION DOLLAR NUMBER. But, only 1.5 billion dollars is several airplanes full of money.
We will shortly be rid of Obama. His overdraft of TEN TRILLION DOLLARS will be left of the desk for the next president and congress to deal with.
If, you watch or read the financial stuff, you are aware of the FED saying they will raise the interest rates. We are sliding deeper and deeper into debt because we are not even paying the interest on the total debt. IF, THE INTEREST RATE GOES UP-IT GETS WORSE NOT BETTER.
Guest
09-08-2016, 01:23 PM
does anyone use century link ? what are the pros and cons? is it recommended ?
Guest
09-08-2016, 01:47 PM
does anyone use century link ? what are the pros and cons? is it recommended ?
Ask Hillary. She is a real credible source for a recommendation.
Guest
09-08-2016, 01:56 PM
Hillary doesn't try to fake it. She stole gov property in the thousands (a felony) from the White House when they left. After all, the Clintons left the White House dirt poor. :shrug:
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They had to furnish the Chappaqua home, they were broke!
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09-08-2016, 01:57 PM
It'll NEVER get paid. They'll roll it over forever.
No...we MUST cut welfare to people and corporations. That is our BIGGEST expense.
I too an anti-welfare. As a kid we were dirt poor. I was born just five years after my father who served from 1941-day after they bombed pearl harbor till the end of WWII in 1945.
He earned more than one purple heart-the hard way.
While we were poor, my father worked his way up and we were comfortable. Till I was 12-13 we lived in a rent subsidized city housing project. I was roughly 9 before my parents COULD AFFORD a TV and I was 11 before we got our first car. TODAY, THE WAY WE LIVED WOULD SIMPLY BE UNACCEPTABLE FOR PEOPLE EXPECTING OTHERS TO PAY THEIR BILLS RATHER THAN EARNING WHAT THEY NEED OR WANT.
Your statement is at best misleading. Welfare is listed at 7% of the budget. What you parrot as corporate welfare is- first of all you need to realize that a corporation is just paperwork to set up a business that limits personal liability and raises capital by selling stock-shares in that business.
The function of this legal creation is to distribute money-profits-to the owners-people who bought stock. As to corporate welfare-that is created by our GOVERNMENT.
GE for example paid zero tax. The reason was all the tax advantages offered by our government-OFFERED BY THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION for green energy, GE is very active in the wind turbines set out across the US. When Obama hopped on airforce one to try to increase business with europe, Emmilt of GE was aboard. If, you are not aware, GE bought a French electric company. The truth was to escape ht American corporate tax which is among the highest in the world. To approve the deal the french government wrote into the contract that they must keep the offices in France and continue to employ the same number of french people
FYI-I am one of the EVIL STOCKHOLDERS in GE. I pay 15% tax, the highest tax rate for dividends, on the dividends I receive. The value of the per share price is almost twice what I bought it for. IF, YOU WERE SMART ENOUGH TO DO THE SAME GOOD FOR YOU. IF, YOU HAD THE NERVE TO RISK YOU SAVINGS AS I DID IN 2008 GOOD FOR YOU. IF, NOT WHAT THE HELL MAKES YOU THINK YOU DESERVE MY PROFITS. FYI-you do not, Obama does not, our country does not share in losses on stocks for more than 3,000.
I am over 65 and am receiving Social security. Unlike how our government spins social security IT IS WELFARE. Before you argue, the money WE paid in is not sitting in a bank account with your name on it. The money we WERE FORCED to pay in paid fior what the people before us took out. In truth, it was used to BUY THE VOTES of the people before us. Adding to the no longer possible illusion was when Bush added UNFUNDED, prescription drug coverage to the social security farce. Perhaps, the coupe de gras was when Obama added UNFUNDED OBAMACARE on to the already soon to be overdrawn SOCIAL SECURITY PLAN.
CLEARLY WHILE MOST DARE NOT ADMIT IT SINCE THERE IS NO BANK ACCOUNT WITH YOUR NAME ON IT, WHAT YOU/WE GET FROM SOCIAL SECURITY IS IN FACT WELFARE.
Guest
09-08-2016, 02:13 PM
[QUOTE=Guest;1285258]Hillary doesn't try to fake it. She stole gov property in the thousands (a felony) from the White House when they left. After all, the Clintons left the White House dirt poor.
Interesting that they have to launder foreign donations through their Global Initiative in Canada before it is then sent to the Clinton Foundation where less than ten percent goes to charities and the rest goes to administration such as paying the Clintons, paying for the Clinton's travel, boarding and dining. Amazing how they could be dirt poor when they left D.C. and now have hundreds of millions of bucks. Not bad for unemployment. Nothing crooked here folks.
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Hey, it worked for Bengazi, e-mails, monica, travel gate, whitewater SHE DOES NOT RECALL.
Perhaps, like e-mails she can claimed they were not marked property of the white house and numbered. LEAST NOT UNTIL SHE HAD HER EXPERTS REMOVE THE LABELS.
RE: negative net worth when they left the white house.
REMINDER-you need to have a HIGH CREDIT SCORE TO GET A MORTGAGE-THAT APPLIES TO EVERYONE BY LAW.
I've wondered how the Clinton's got a mortgage that allowed CARPETBAGGER HILLARY to win a seat in the Senate from NEW YORK using her then new address in CHAPAQUA. By the way, this is not a cheap residence-it is a mansion. Oh and the irony is it has a HIGH WALL all around it-PAID FOR NOT BY MEXICO BUT BY THE AMERICAN TAXPAYERS .
Guest
09-08-2016, 03:29 PM
[QUOTE=Guest;1285258]Hillary doesn't try to fake it. She stole gov property in the thousands (a felony) from the White House when they left. After all, the Clintons left the White House dirt poor.
Interesting that they have to launder foreign donations through their Global Initiative in Canada before it is then sent to the Clinton Foundation where less than ten percent goes to charities and the rest goes to administration such as paying the Clintons, paying for the Clinton's travel, boarding and dining. Amazing how they could be dirt poor when they left D.C. and now have hundreds of millions of bucks. Not bad for unemployment. Nothing crooked here folks.
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Hey, it worked for Bengazi, e-mails, monica, travel gate, whitewater SHE DOES NOT RECALL.
Perhaps, like e-mails she can claimed they were not marked property of the white house and numbered. LEAST NOT UNTIL SHE HAD HER EXPERTS REMOVE THE LABELS.
RE: negative net worth when they left the white house.
REMINDER-you need to have a HIGH CREDIT SCORE TO GET A MORTGAGE-THAT APPLIES TO EVERYONE BY LAW.
I've wondered how the Clinton's got a mortgage that allowed CARPETBAGGER HILLARY to win a seat in the Senate from NEW YORK using her then new address in CHAPAQUA. By the way, this is not a cheap residence-it is a mansion. Oh and the irony is it has a HIGH WALL all around it-PAID FOR NOT BY MEXICO BUT BY THE AMERICAN TAXPAYERS .
Al Gore lost the election by a Hillary hair because so much of the parties funds were diverted to pay for the NY senate campaign.
Just one reason Gore hates her.
The mortgage on her house was from a political friend, the current Virginia governor who just recently exceeded his authority by trying to grant over 200,000 felons the right to vote.
He can only grant that right on a case by case basis, but don't worry he will go back to court and swear he reviewed each case individually.
You can't make this clinton stuff up!!!
Terry McAuliffe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_McAuliffe)
With Some Help, Clintons Purchase a White House - NYTimes.com (http://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/03/nyregion/with-some-help-clintons-purchase-a-white-house.html?pagewanted=all)
Virginia Governor Says Fight for Felons’ Voting Rights Is Not Over - NYTimes.com (http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/07/26/us/virginia-mcauliffe-voting-rights-felons.html)
Guest
09-08-2016, 03:49 PM
the Clinton's bought two houses a 1.7M in Chappqua, NY
so Hillary could claim residence in the state ahead of her 2000 Senate campaign.
https://www.americarisingpac.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Chappqua2.png
Then they purchased this $2.85 million mansion on Embassy Row in Washington D.C.
https://www.americarisingpac.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Whitehaven-Clinton.png
then they stole the furniture from the WH because they were broke.
In an interview with Diane Sawyer, Hillary Clinton claimed that after the White House their family “struggled..to piece together the resources for mortgages, for houses.” The “we struggled to get by” defense from a multi-millionaire might be tough to swallow for Americans actually struggling to pay their mortgage. Hillary, after-all, left the White House having spent 20 years living in gratis government mansions in Little Rock and Washington D.C. Additionally, lets not forget that Bill Clinton’s annual salary was $200,000/year as President and he was able to cash-in on a $50,000 expense account. The Clintons made roughly FOUR times what the average American made and “struggled to get by.”
I think the mortgages were from Russian and Chinese banks :a20:
Guest
09-08-2016, 08:00 PM
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Al Gore lost the election by a Hillary hair because so much of the parties funds were diverted to pay for the NY senate campaign.
Just one reason Gore hates her.
The mortgage on her house was from a political friend, the current Virginia governor who just recently exceeded his authority by trying to grant over 200,000 felons the right to vote.
He can only grant that right on a case by case basis, but don't worry he will go back to court and swear he reviewed each case individually.
You can't make this clinton stuff up!!!
Terry McAuliffe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_McAuliffe)
With Some Help, Clintons Purchase a White House - NYTimes.com (http://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/03/nyregion/with-some-help-clintons-purchase-a-white-house.html?pagewanted=all)
Virginia Governor Says Fight for Felons’ Voting Rights Is Not Over - NYTimes.com (http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/07/26/us/virginia-mcauliffe-voting-rights-felons.html)
RE: Al Gore and the presidential election
We actually lived in NY at the time BUT some interesting stuff. Florida has as many electoral votes as NY does-a surprise to me. If, you recall the HANGING CHADS FIASCO.
In the end Bush took Florida by only 895 votes.
RE: Mortgage on her home from a political friend. I seem to recall seeing something like that somewhere. That is yet another CLINTON SLIGHT OF HAND. There is a limit on the dollar amount that a politician can take as gifts. A million 5 loan to a couple with a negative net worth on the open market rate would be???????????
RE; Gore hates her
It simply does not matter. Obama also hates the Clintons but he will do anything he can to see the democrats win the election.
This election will decide how this country proceeds for generations due to the power to appoint supreme court judges. The democrats launch the racist charge at the republicans. It is sadly funny because the republicans not the democrats advanced equal right for black people AND YET THEY PREDOMINATELY VOTE DEMOCRATIC. They will launch the charge that Trump demeans women. Yet. trump has many female executives in his organization-his business.
Trump is a bit of an unknown with no history as a politician. The Clintons have a long history OF BEING DIRTBAGS. They have bought many in political power.
Hillary is actually running for an ILLEGAL Clinton third term.
Even Billy said when he was running for president, you get two for the price of one. Some other poster a while back accused me of parroting or making this point up. Truth be told I've posted this many times. Can you PARROT yourself? In any case bILLY+HILLY (FIRST PRESIDENTIAL TERM) BILLY+HILLY (SECOND PRESIDENTIAL TERM) HILLY+BILLY-I SEE THAT AS THE SAME GANG-DO YOU NOT??????
Guest
09-09-2016, 01:54 AM
You say Obama ran the debt up 10 Trillion dollars, can you show us where you got this info?
Lets see the National debt was 11.8 Trillion dollars when he took office so you are saying our debt is now OVER 21.8 Trillion dollars?
Lat I looked it was 19 Trillion NOT 21 almost 22 Trillion
Just like a lot of Republicans keep saying he has run up the debt more then all his predecessors combined that is not true in order for him to have done that he would have had to run it up as much as the debt was when he took office and that was 11.8 Trillion and our debt would have to be OVER 23 Trillion dollars NOT 19
Fact is there have been two presidents of the US that have run the debt up more then all their predecessors combined and both of the were Republicans, Ron Reagan and G W Bush
Reagan took office with a debt of 998 Billion and when he left it was 2,8 Trillion
G.W, took office it was 5,8 Trillion and when he left it was 11.865 Trillion
Yes GW and Reagan only presidents to run the debt up more then ALL their predecessors combined
Guest
09-09-2016, 03:25 AM
You say Obama ran the debt up 10 Trillion dollars, can you show us where you got this info?
Lets see the National debt was 11.8 Trillion dollars when he took office so you are saying our debt is now OVER 21.8 Trillion dollars?
Lat I looked it was 19 Trillion NOT 21 almost 22 Trillion
Just like a lot of Republicans keep saying he has run up the debt more then all his predecessors combined that is not true in order for him to have done that he would have had to run it up as much as the debt was when he took office and that was 11.8 Trillion and our debt would have to be OVER 23 Trillion dollars NOT 19
Fact is there have been two presidents of the US that have run the debt up more then all their predecessors combined and both of the were Republicans, Ron Reagan and G W Bush
Reagan took office with a debt of 998 Billion and when he left it was 2,8 Trillion
G.W, took office it was 5,8 Trillion and when he left it was 11.865 Trillion
Yes GW and Reagan only presidents to run the debt up more then ALL their predecessors combined
Not so fast.
TreasuryDirect.gov: National Debt
Jan 20, 2009 = $10,626,877,048,913.08
By the time Obama leaves office, the national debt will be way over $20 million, because it is just short of it now.
The national debt will have doubled during Obama's administration. What other presidents did is not relevant. This president made promises that he did not keep. You loyalists seem to forget real easy. This is just another of his many failures.
Guest
09-09-2016, 09:10 AM
Not so fast.
TreasuryDirect.gov: National Debt
Jan 20, 2009 = $10,626,877,048,913.08
By the time Obama leaves office, the national debt will be way over $20 million, because it is just short of it now.
The national debt will have doubled during Obama's administration. What other presidents did is not relevant. This president made promises that he did not keep. You loyalists seem to forget real easy. This is just another of his many failures.
Trump is not a politician or even a true Republican, but Hillary has no ammunition so they try to blame Trump for bush, truly comical.
Guest
09-09-2016, 09:47 AM
You say it was 10.626 Trillion when he took office and will be doubled by the time he leaves
SO between now and Jan we are going to spend OVER 1.5 Trillion ( almost 2 trillion )and put it all on the debt?
YES it will be up around 19.8 Trillion , it is now at 19.502 Trillion
It may even reach 20 Trillion but he will not double it as you say.
So far the only Presidents to do that have been Reagan and G.W. Bush
Guest
09-09-2016, 10:34 AM
You say it was 10.626 Trillion when he took office and will be doubled by the time he leaves
SO between now and Jan we are going to spend OVER 1.5 Trillion ( almost 2 trillion )and put it all on the debt?
YES it will be up around 19.8 Trillion , it is now at 19.502 Trillion
It may even reach 20 Trillion but he will not double it as you say.
So far the only Presidents to do that have been Reagan and G.W. Bush
Don't you GET IT? They're ALL corrupt spenders...BOTH parties.
Guest
09-09-2016, 11:24 AM
You say it was 10.626 Trillion when he took office and will be doubled by the time he leaves
SO between now and Jan we are going to spend OVER 1.5 Trillion ( almost 2 trillion )and put it all on the debt?
YES it will be up around 19.8 Trillion , it is now at 19.502 Trillion
It may even reach 20 Trillion but he will not double it as you say.
So far the only Presidents to do that have been Reagan and G.W. Bush
It will be close to double. You can get technical down to the penny if you wish, but the point remains, that Obama has the highest debt of any president in history. If you can't accept a statement without a weak defense of Obie, then you are just another guppie for him.
I have no doubt that you totally excuse Hillary's corruption and will vote for her. It really doesn't matter what you come back with in Obie's defense. He has already proven that he is the worst liberal experiment every. And now you liberals are attempting to duplicate your mistake.
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