My rambelings re: 9/11

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I can't put ALL of it together so some will simply be an outline.

At the time, we lived a 45 minute train ride to Manhattan.

We lost approximately 3000 of our people in the immediate destruction of the World Trade Center. This was an attack on a CIVILIAN WORK PLACE. The start of WWII for The US was the JAPANESE also a SURPRISE ATTACK-we declared war on Japan-they had representatives negotiating with us AT THE TIME THEY LAUNCHED THE ATTACK. The lost AMERICAN LIVES at Pearl Harbor and at the World trade Center were about the same.

While, I know or knew about ten people who died at the World Trade Center for me Andrew is what this attack means to far too many AMERICAN FAMILIES. Andrew was a young wild kid who lived across the street from my sister.
I TAUGHT ANDREW TO RIDE A BIKE. When, Andrew died at the World Trade Center he was married with TWO KIDS.

The people who planned and carried out this attack were from SAUDI ARABIA. Bush perhaps due to his OIL TIES to Saudi Arabia helped Saudi to LEAVE America and not face retribution. Bill Clinton-now running for an ILLEGAL THIRD TERM AS PRESIDENT had a good shot at Bin Lauden the Saudi who we have been TOLD plotted the attack on the world trade center, and he did not take it.

The LIBERALS want to or chose to forgive Hillaries tale of running from bullets when MOVIES and yes lost, later found e-mails when she realized that e-mails once they hit the server ARE FOREVER has been sown over and over again to be a liar. FOR ME THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TYING THE TRUTH INTO A KNOT AND LYING IS?

The LIBERALS doubt TRUMP'S report of Muslims in nEW jERSEY cheering the attack on the World Trade Center.
I WAS IN BROOKLYN A FEW DAYS AFTER THE 9/11 ATTACK
I SAW A GROUP OF 50 PLUS MUSLIMS ON THE SIDEWALK CHEERING THE RESULT OF 9/11. I WAS IN MY CAR. IT DID CROSS MY MIND TO SIMPLY DRIVE THROUGH THEM-I DID NOT. PERHAPS I SHOULD HAVE- AT LEAST THEN THE LIBERALS WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO QUESTION IF THEY WERE THERE OR NOT.

[Guest]

I can't put ALL of it together so some will simply be an outline.

At the time, we lived a 45 minute train ride to Manhattan.

We lost approximately 3000 of our people in the immediate destruction of the World Trade Center. This was an attack on a CIVILIAN WORK PLACE. The start of WWII for The US was the JAPANESE also a SURPRISE ATTACK-we declared war on Japan-they had representatives negotiating with us AT THE TIME THEY LAUNCHED THE ATTACK. The lost AMERICAN LIVES at Pearl Harbor and at the World trade Center were about the same.

While, I know or knew about ten people who died at the World Trade Center for me Andrew is what this attack means to far too many AMERICAN FAMILIES. Andrew was a young wild kid who lived across the street from my sister.
I TAUGHT ANDREW TO RIDE A BIKE. When, Andrew died at the World Trade Center he was married with TWO KIDS.

The people who planned and carried out this attack were from SAUDI ARABIA. Bush perhaps due to his OIL TIES to Saudi Arabia helped Saudi to LEAVE America and not face retribution. Bill Clinton-now running for an ILLEGAL THIRD TERM AS PRESIDENT had a good shot at Bin Lauden the Saudi who we have been TOLD plotted the attack on the world trade center, and he did not take it.

The LIBERALS want to or chose to forgive Hillaries tale of running from bullets when MOVIES and yes lost, later found e-mails when she realized that e-mails once they hit the server ARE FOREVER has been sown over and over again to be a liar. FOR ME THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TYING THE TRUTH INTO A KNOT AND LYING IS?

The LIBERALS doubt TRUMP'S report of Muslims in nEW jERSEY cheering the attack on the World Trade Center.
I WAS IN BROOKLYN A FEW DAYS AFTER THE 9/11 ATTACK
I SAW A GROUP OF 50 PLUS MUSLIMS ON THE SIDEWALK CHEERING THE RESULT OF 9/11. I WAS IN MY CAR. IT DID CROSS MY MIND TO SIMPLY DRIVE THROUGH THEM-I DID NOT. PERHAPS I SHOULD HAVE- AT LEAST THEN THE LIBERALS WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO QUESTION IF THEY WERE THERE OR NOT.
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We have fought in IRAQ, IRAN,AFGHANISTAN BUT NOT OUR PALS IN SAUDI ARABIA-the largest funder of TERRORIST GROUPS.

Trump is talking about A WALL between Mexico and the US when the SAUDIS that attacked the World Trade Center came in through CANADA a far longer and perhaps more porous boarder.

We have, or should have by now realized that KUMBAYA is not an effective military tactic. The PRICE for WINNING THIS WAR is a sever loss of our rights and our LIBERAL VIEWS.
IS IT WORTH IT? I'M NOT CERTAIN BUT I'M ALSO NOT SURE WE NOW HAVE ANY OTHER CHOICE.

[Guest]

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We have fought in IRAQ, IRAN,AFGHANISTAN BUT NOT OUR PALS IN SAUDI ARABIA-the largest funder of TERRORIST GROUPS.

Trump is talking about A WALL between Mexico and the US when the SAUDIS that attacked the World Trade Center came in through CANADA a far longer and perhaps more porous boarder.

We have, or should have by now realized that KUMBAYA is not an effective military tactic. The PRICE for WINNING THIS WAR is a sever loss of our rights and our LIBERAL VIEWS.
IS IT WORTH IT? I'M NOT CERTAIN BUT I'M ALSO NOT SURE WE NOW HAVE ANY OTHER CHOICE.

Except that the various law agencies in the US have stopped any kind of 9/11 from happening again. We have had a lot of lone wolf or attacks by small cells of people. Hard to stop these.

Intelligence via people is the most important thing to prevent violence not ****ing on the US Constitution nor alienating the very people we need to help fight terrorism around the world. This depends on people not technology or some idiotic idea of a wall. We are not in the 5th Century in China facing people on horses.

[Guest]

I too personally saw people very happy about the attack. My job required that I mingle with many different people.

[Guest]

Saudi Arabian's were the hijackers funded by Saudi Arabia. What bush did was a disgrace!

[Guest]

Except that the various law agencies in the US have stopped any kind of 9/11 from happening again. We have had a lot of lone wolf or attacks by small cells of people. Hard to stop these.

Intelligence via people is the most important thing to prevent violence not ****ing on the US Constitution nor alienating the very people we need to help fight terrorism around the world. This depends on people not technology or some idiotic idea of a wall. We are not in the 5th Century in China facing people on horses.

I think we all see it is a difficult situation. Re: alienating the very people we need. If, we are receiving any help it is and must be kept hidden. In this culture people such as Sudate who a few years after Egypt led a combined Muslim attack on Israel later led a move toward real lasting peace. HE WAS KILLED BY HIS OWN PEOPLE.

Your reply re: wall and fifth century china. Should we go in that direction I do not know but the Berlin wall was quite effective. The reason is the orders were shoot to kill.

Has MACHIAVELLI gone through a book burning? A 16th century Italian prince to clearly wrote the facts. It is far easier to control fear then to control love. Our own government practices this thought through the IRS.
While they can and do give people like the Clinton a pass
they deliberately publicly went after Martha Stewart for far smaller crimes then WHITE WATER and the CLINTON FOUNDATION.

We are at best given controlled information. I'm not certain we really want to or should know the truth some of which is guesses, classified etc.

i'M JUST VENTING MY FRUSTRATION AND SHARING WHAT I KNOW TO BE FACT-RE; CHEERING MUSLIMS.

On a lighter note-just before 9/11 I stopped into a greasy spoon diner on Broadway about 32nd street. I ordered a Greek Salad from a black guy and noticed arabic writing on the wall. So there I was, got the best Greek salad ever from a black guy in a muslim owned place.

THERE IS HOPE-PERHAPS WHAT WE NEED IS A CHEERLEADER TO GET OUR COUNTRY WORKING-AND WORKING TOGETHER.

MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN SOUNDS FAR BETTER TO ME THAN STEAL-TAX- WHAT YOU NEED FROM OTHERS.

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The total length of the Berlin Wall was 96 miles, of which approximately 26 miles ran north to south, splitting Berlin in two.

The U.S.-Mexico border stretches nearly 2,000 miles, more than half of it along the Colorado River and Rio Grande.