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Bogie Shooter
09-17-2016, 08:24 AM
In today's Daily Sun:
Joshua J. Duffy-Sedicino punched another man in the face and started screaming profanities at him. The attack occurred after Duffy-Sedicino asked the other man for a cigarette and inquired about his wife attending the police academy, the report indicated. Duffy-Sedicino also went on a anti-police rant.

If these freeloaders cannot behave, they should be kicked out of the house.

Taltarzac725
09-17-2016, 08:32 AM
In today's Daily Sun:
Joshua J. Duffy-Sedicino punched another man in the face and started screaming profanities at him. The attack occurred after Duffy-Sedicino asked the other man for a cigarette and inquired about his wife attending the police academy, the report indicated. Duffy-Sedicino also went on a anti-police rant.

If these freeloaders cannot behave, they should be kicked out of the house.

Punches fly over man's announcement that he wants to be a cop - Daily Commercial: News (http://www.dailycommercial.com/news/article_8f5fd695-1f50-56ef-8123-ab1feacbf242.html)

Link to article in Daily Commercial.

Villageswimmer
09-17-2016, 10:25 AM
I often think about parents of these troublemakers. It's easy to say "kick him out," but what if the parent is afraid of him or tries to kick him out and he refuses to leave? Is there any help for such parents? It's a very sad situation. Perhaps the parents are victims, too.

ajbrown
09-17-2016, 10:37 AM
Seems the victim was also a young man; sure looks like he got some shots in...

The heck with kicking him out of the house, find him a room in the big house for 6 months.

graciegirl
09-17-2016, 11:04 AM
I often think about parents of these troublemakers. It's easy to say "kick him out," but what if the parent is afraid of him or tries to kick him out and he refuses to leave? Is there any help for such parents? It's a very sad situation. Perhaps the parents are victims, too.

I often wonder too. He has had several mugshots prior to this one. I googled.

Jima64
09-17-2016, 11:22 AM
sounds like a loser dopehead to me that people keep taking in.

2BNTV
09-17-2016, 11:29 AM
I often think about parents of these troublemakers. It's easy to say "kick him out," but what if the parent is afraid of him or tries to kick him out and he refuses to leave? Is there any help for such parents? It's a very sad situation. Perhaps the parents are victims, too.

:agree:

This troubled man needs help and I hope, he accepts it!

Barefoot
09-17-2016, 11:35 AM
Punches fly over man's announcement that he wants to be a cop - Daily Commercial: News (http://www.dailycommercial.com/news/article_8f5fd695-1f50-56ef-8123-ab1feacbf242.html)
Link to article in Daily Commercial.
This article in the Daily Commercial is even more disturbing
than the less comprehensive article in The Villages online newspaper.
To attack someone for wanting to be a cop is deranged behavior. From previous arrests, we could already assume that.
I wouldn't have posted bond. This man-child living with parents needs some immediate tough love.

Taltarzac725
09-17-2016, 12:09 PM
This article in the Daily Commercial is even more disturbing
than the less comprehensive article in The Villages online newspaper.
To attack someone for wanting to be a cop is deranged behavior. From previous arrests, we could already assume that.
I wouldn't have posted bond. This man-child living with parents needs some immediate tough love.

I am a person living with my parents for a variety of reasons-- and it is very hard to meet a good woman who would date me while doing this-- so people should not judge the rest of us by this man's actions.

Marquis Who's Who nominated me to 24 of their various publications (1992-2004) while I was living with my parents in Rohnert Park, CA and Palm Harbor, FL from late 1991- 2005. This was for my 224 613 Project. Just because you fought city hall and lost; this does not mean that you still cannot do worthwhile things at home.

Gary Corsair then of The Villages Daily Sun did a little article on me that ran on Memorial Day of 2007. This was for how my Project related to libraries in Lake, Sumter and Marion County.

The story is a very complicated one and would make a trio of very good movies or books.

rubicon
09-17-2016, 01:26 PM
It would seem to me the Christian thing to do is not provide more media attention to this incident for the benefit of the parents who clearly are already dealing with much pain and embarrassment.

I also do not believe any of us are in a position to understand or judge these parents because we do not know what they are dealing with or what if any good faith attempts they have made to contain this situation.

All we can offer them is our understanding and our silence

graciegirl
09-17-2016, 02:14 PM
It would seem to me the Christian thing to do is not provide more media attention to this incident for the benefit of the parents who clearly are already dealing with much pain and embarrassment.

I also do not believe any of us are in a position to understand or judge these parents because we do not know what they are dealing with or what if any good faith attempts they have made to contain this situation.

All we can offer them is our understanding and our silence

There is merit in your kind response but people should be made aware that he hits people. Our friends were present when this happened and one offered her medical aid to both of the people involved.

This situation appears to be not easy to understand or to solve. It isn't a good situation for sure. I would bet the neighbors are a little edgy.

bagboy
09-17-2016, 02:31 PM
Maybe a good start in dealing with unruly behavior on/in any of our amenity properties would be to suspend or revoke Villages priveledges upon arrest and conviction of any crime. And maybe extend that punishment to the property owner, renter on a lease, parent, etc. This isn't about not having compassion for parents and spouses who have their hands full for whatever reason. This should be about holding residents to a standard we hold ourselves and our guests to when enjoying our amenities and club activities.

Bogie Shooter
09-17-2016, 02:57 PM
Maybe a good start in dealing with unruly behavior on/in any of our amenity properties would be to suspend or revoke Villages priveledges upon arrest and conviction of any crime. And maybe extend that punishment to the property owner, renter on a lease, parent, etc. This isn't about not having compassion for parents and spouses who have their hands full for whatever reason. This should be about holding residents to a standard we hold ourselves and our guests to when enjoying our amenities and club activities.

You make it sound like this is an everyday happening.

Taltarzac725
09-17-2016, 03:02 PM
Maybe a good start in dealing with unruly behavior on/in any of our amenity properties would be to suspend or revoke Villages priveledges upon arrest and conviction of any crime. And maybe extend that punishment to the property owner, renter on a lease, parent, etc. This isn't about not having compassion for parents and spouses who have their hands full for whatever reason. This should be about holding residents to a standard we hold ourselves and our guests to when enjoying our amenities and club activities.

That seems to be going way too far. People should be responsible for their own actions but not for the actions of people whom they have little control over.

It also paints with too broad a brush. Context is extremely important.

Topspinmo
09-17-2016, 04:27 PM
That seems to be going way too far. People should be responsible for their own actions but not for the actions of people whom they have little control over.

It also paints with too broad a brush. Context is extremely cimportant.

No he said ones that commit felonies. Which should come with some kind of standard of behavior to prevent multiple escalating crimes and protect or standard of living. Neighbors shouldn't have to live in fear of some idiot that can't live within law and coexist in community that has standards in writing.

Topspinmo
09-17-2016, 04:46 PM
I often think about parents of these troublemakers. It's easy to say "kick him out," but what if the parent is afraid of him or tries to kick him out and he refuses to leave? Is there any help for such parents? It's a very sad bsituation. Perhaps the parents are victims, too.


Yes, it's called tuff love, you don't bail them out of jail, have NO in your vocabulary.

Barefoot
09-17-2016, 04:48 PM
This man-child living with parents needs some immediate tough love.

I am a person living with my parents for a variety of reasons-- so people should not judge the rest of us by this man's actions. Tal, this man reportedly assaulted someone.
In no way was I judging peaceful children for living with their parents.

I'm sorry that I commented on this story.
I think Rubicon is right -- all we can offer the parents is our understanding and our silence.

bagboy
09-17-2016, 05:36 PM
You make it sound like this is an everyday happening.

Is that what I said?

Taltarzac725
09-17-2016, 06:54 PM
Tal, this man reportedly assaulted someone.
In no way was I judging peaceful children for living with their parents.

I'm sorry that I commented on this story.
I think Rubicon is right -- all we can offer the parents is our understanding and our silence.

He needs a tough judge of some kind. This is what he requires. But we really cannot make statements about this household without actually knowing them. Sounds like something Yogi Berra would say. Yogi Berra - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yogi_Berra)

Rosie1950
09-17-2016, 07:21 PM
I don't think any of these threads are suitable for this type of discussion, these comments are not as bad as why is in the villages news, how ever, everyone should remember,
There but for the Grace of God go I.
I see the articles in the paper and wonder why these adult children have to live with their parents, it is sad. These are not the venues for these discussions.
No I'm not a holy roller I have alway felt live and let live myob. Works pretty good.

graciegirl
09-17-2016, 07:23 PM
He needs a tough judge of some kind. This is what he requires. But we really cannot make statements about this household without actually knowing them. Sounds like something Yogi Berra would say. Yogi Berra - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yogi_Berra)

If you google his name you will find he has been arrested several times. One other mugshot shows he has a cut or abrasion on his face. It is hard NOT to jump to conclusions sometimes at our age when many of us have seen and read a lot of sad things.

Taltarzac725
09-17-2016, 09:28 PM
If you google his name you will find he has been arrested several times. One other mugshot shows he has a cut or abrasion on his face. It is hard NOT to jump to conclusions sometimes at our age when many of us have seen and read a lot of sad things.

I am talking about blaming his family for his actions. You do not know what goes on in that family unless you are part of that family. We do not usually blame a family for the actions of one of its members even if they live together unless if it is someone like Ma Barker and her boys. Ma Barker - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ma_Barker) They were a gang of criminals.

ColdNoMore
09-17-2016, 09:37 PM
I am talking about blaming his family for his actions. You do not know what goes on in that family unless you are part of that family. We do not usually blame a family for the actions of one of its members even if they live together unless if it is someone like Ma Barker and her boys. Ma Barker - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ma_Barker) They were a gang of criminals.

Yep.

All too often we want to delude ourselves into thinking, that just because our kids turned out great...we're great parents.

Which of course, doesn't explain the many times two or more siblings turn out so very different...even having been raised the exact same.

Although I consider myself extremely fortunate to have children that are doing excellent, I am also smart enough to know that parents often get too much credit...as well as too much blame. :shrug:

manaboutown
09-17-2016, 10:47 PM
Adult children, some even into their sixties, who are drug/alcohol addicted/dependent, convicted felons and the like living with ma and/or pa are the bane of many 55 and over communities these days, not just TV. Even communities which are quite restrictive suffer these malfeasors because their parents allow them to live with them as "caregivers" - give me a break.

Taltarzac725
09-18-2016, 01:50 AM
Adult children, some even into their sixties, who are drug/alcohol addicted/dependent, convicted felons and the like living with ma and/or pa are the bane of many 55 and over communities these days, not just TV. Even communities which are quite restrictive suffer these malfeasors because their parents allow them to live with them as "caregivers" - give me a break.

I do not drink, smoke, take recreational drugs or anything like that. And I am usually very polite. In the Fall of 1992, I went to BYU Law School for ten days or so and was put off by all their rules but it was the pressure to convert to Mormonism from my Puerto Rican dancer roommate that really made me drop out. It did make me very interested in Law Librarianship though. I did work my way through the University of Denver to get a MA (May, 1984) in Librarianship and also earned JD from the University of Minnesota (May, 1989). I worked through my 2nd and 3rd Years of Law School.

I have met other Villager adult children who have many admirable qualities and are living at home.


Marquis Who's Who nominated me to 24 of their different publications from 1992 through 2004. That was while I was living at home working on my 224 613 Project with four degrees and winning often in my efforts internationally to get practical materials into libraries of all kinds for survivors/victims of crimes. I am listed in 14 of these various publications and all of this very hard work was done while living with my parents who admittedly have been wonderful putting up with me and my hobby.

I am still fighting for these survivors/victims of crimes with respect to practical information. I have probably done more for survivor/victims of crimes with respect to access to practical information than several working people combined because I do not have to get any approval from some University Committee to do anything nor answer to stockholders or whatever kind of organizational oversight. I do have to answer to any kind of governmental entities that do keep track of my efforts. All activists do have to abide by the various laws in their countries.

rubicon
09-18-2016, 04:31 AM
I do not drink, smoke, take recreational drugs or anything like that. And I am usually very polite. In the Fall of 1992, I went to BYU Law School for ten days or so and was put off by all their rules but it was the pressure to convert to Mormonism from my Puerto Rican dancer roommate that really made me drop out. It did make me very interested in Law Librarianship though. I did work my way through the University of Denver to get a MA (May, 1984) in Librarianship and also earned JD from the University of Minnesota (May, 1989). I worked through my 2nd and 3rd Years of Law School.

I have met other Villager adult children who have many admirable qualities and are living at home.


Marquis Who's Who nominated me to 24 of their different publications from 1992 through 2004. That was while I was living at home working on my 224 613 Project with four degrees and winning often in my efforts internationally to get practical materials into libraries of all kinds for survivors/victims of crimes. I am listed in 14 of these various publications and all of this very hard work was done while living with my parents who admittedly have been wonderful putting up with me and my hobby.

I am still fighting for these survivors/victims of crimes with respect to practical information. I have probably done more for survivor/victims of crimes with respect to access to practical information than several working people combined because I do not have to get any approval from some University Committee to do anything nor answer to stockholders or whatever kind of organizational oversight. I do have to answer to any kind of governmental entities that do keep track of my efforts. All activists do have to abide by the various laws in their countries.

Tal " Well done". There are a number of legitimate reasons adult children live with their parents and may I add perhaps beneficial. It seems however if we have an adult child living in TV who misbehaves we view them differently and address their issues differently from some of TV retirees who have committed similar acts such as the guy who ended up shooting into a neighbors home...it wasn't because he was living with his parents

We forget that prior to the baby boom generation extended families often lived together throughout their entire lives.

all of the aforementioned to simply say please don't judge others.

Personal Best Regards:

Taltarzac725
09-18-2016, 08:43 AM
Tal " Well done". There are a number of legitimate reasons adult children live with their parents and may I add perhaps beneficial. It seems however if we have an adult child living in TV who misbehaves we view them differently and address their issues differently from some of TV retirees who have committed similar acts such as the guy who ended up shooting into a neighbors home...it wasn't because he was living with his parents

We forget that prior to the baby boom generation extended families often lived together throughout their entire lives.

all of the aforementioned to simply say please don't judge others.

Personal Best Regards:

Thanks Rubicon. Have been working on this Project in some way or another since February 28, 1976 when I looked in the downtown Washoe County Library in Reno, Nevada to help my fellow Earl Wooster High School students cope with the Michelle Mitchell murder investigation. I could not find anything useful and kept checking in libraries of all kinds for information that would be useful for others facing similar problems. Some of my classmates were questioned about their alibi and such for February 24, 1976 the day of her murder and which is also my birthday. I eventually checked libraries in numerous states and would often also find them lacking. I did find a few very useful publications. Really did not know what was out there until I wrote 4000 victim/witness assistance providers in the 1990s to see what they would like to see in their community's libraries for survivors/victims of crimes. I did not start using these two numbers --224 and 613-- until mid March of 1993 but I have put myself into places where people would listen to my concerns at least if not act on them at all. I did feel often like I was fighting City Hall. I did think I needed those four degrees I have for some credibility. Facebook has been a Godsend for getting my work out there as I can put in links to all the documentation of this story.

Allegiance
09-18-2016, 08:54 AM
We are blessed in the villages to have law and order. If we suspect wrong doing and it is reported I am confident it will be investigated.

Allegiance
09-18-2016, 09:30 AM
I do not drink, smoke, take recreational drugs or anything like that. And I am usually very polite. In the Fall of 1992, I went to BYU Law School for ten days or so and was put off by all their rules but it was the pressure to convert to Mormonism from my Puerto Rican dancer roommate that really made me drop out. It did make me very interested in Law Librarianship though. I did work my way through the University of Denver to get a MA (May, 1984) in Librarianship and also earned JD from the University of Minnesota (May, 1989). I worked through my 2nd and 3rd Years of Law School.

I have met other Villager adult children who have many admirable qualities and are living at home.


Marquis Who's Who nominated me to 24 of their different publications from 1992 through 2004. That was while I was living at home working on my 224 613 Project with four degrees and winning often in my efforts internationally to get practical materials into libraries of all kinds for survivors/victims of crimes. I am listed in 14 of these various publications and all of this very hard work was done while living with my parents who admittedly have been wonderful putting up with me and my hobby.

I am still fighting for these survivors/victims of crimes with respect to practical information. I have probably done more for survivor/victims of crimes with respect to access to practical information than several working people combined because I do not have to get any approval from some University Committee to do anything nor answer to stockholders or whatever kind of organizational oversight. I do have to answer to any kind of governmental entities that do keep track of my efforts. All activists do have to abide by the various laws in their countries.
I know someone else who does not drink, smoke or do drugs. He also needed a hand from his parents to get his start in life.

Hmmm

As a matter of fact all the people I know who possess those same traits admire that man.

There is hope.

Nucky
09-18-2016, 10:03 AM
Tal, this man reportedly assaulted someone.
In no way was I judging peaceful children for living with their parents.

I'm sorry that I commented on this story.
I think Rubicon is right -- all we can offer the parents is our understanding and our silence.

This is a very difficult situation to be in for the parent's and for the Assaulter. He may want to stop his bizarre behaviour but doesn't know how, he has no known alternative to the life he has been living. As mentioned before, judging is wrong, understanding and silence is the path to take for the parents who are mainly victims here. In my humble opinion this guy needs a intervention in his life. He needs an alternative route presented before he hurts himself or someone else even worse. He may want relief worse than we can even imagine. Pray for them all.

Jima64
09-18-2016, 02:02 PM
This is a very difficult situation to be in for the parent's and for the Assaulter. He may want to stop his bizarre behaviour but doesn't know how, he has no known alternative to the life he has been living. As mentioned before, judging is wrong, understanding and silence is the path to take for the parents who are mainly victims here. In my humble opinion this guy needs a intervention in his life. He needs an alternative route presented before he hurts himself or someone else even worse. He may want relief worse than we can even imagine. Pray for them all.

this person, not a man in my opinion, needs to do some jail time in the big house for a change and let him see his new pecking order.:pepper2:

goodtimesintv
09-18-2016, 02:50 PM
In today's Daily Sun:
Joshua J. Duffy-Sedicino punched another man in the face and started screaming profanities at him. The attack occurred after Duffy-Sedicino asked the other man for a cigarette and inquired about his wife attending the police academy, the report indicated. Duffy-Sedicino also went on a anti-police rant.

If these freeloaders cannot behave, they should be kicked out of the house.

Not to defend the perp, but.....

Who should decide and judge that these are "freeloaders" who "should be kicked out of the house"?

Maybe the court appointed public defender taxpayers pay for, to plea bargain down the charges and get him out again?

Maybe the prosecutor who agrees to plea bargains?

OR, how about the judge?????????????

And God forbid that The Villages would send its own patrol to homes, to interrogate and decide right there, who's a criminal and "freeloader" living there.

You guys contradict your tolerant, diversity-loving, privacy-loving, liberal selves, while placing no accountability on the civil service people we pay to do right for the community.


:ohdear:

Miles42
09-18-2016, 03:15 PM
There are some pretty stiff penalties for elderly abuse.

Topspinmo
09-18-2016, 03:41 PM
There are some pretty stiff penalties for elderly abuse.

Evidently not for assault, burglary, home invasion, most felonies. Like revolving door at the big house around here.

Topspinmo
09-18-2016, 03:43 PM
this person, not a man in my opinion, needs to do some jail time in the big house for a change and let him see his new pecking order.:pepper2:

Yes time on chain gang maybe?

karostay
09-18-2016, 03:44 PM
When there's a mad cow in the heard it's removed

Bogie Shooter
09-18-2016, 05:12 PM
Not to defend the perp, but.....

Who should decide and judge that these are "freeloaders" who "should be kicked out of the house"?

Maybe the court appointed public defender taxpayers pay for, to plea bargain down the charges and get him out again?

Maybe the prosecutor who agrees to plea bargains?

OR, how about the judge?????????????

And God forbid that The Villages would send its own patrol to homes, to interrogate and decide right there, who's a criminal and "freeloader" living there.

You guys contradict your tolerant, diversity-loving, privacy-loving, liberal selves, while placing no accountability on the civil service people we pay to do right for the community.


:ohdear:

He's a bum!

redwitch
09-18-2016, 06:14 PM
Too many things we don't know. Is his behavior due to some brain damage, mental illness, substance abuse? Unless we know the underlying root cause, it is awfully hard to judge. Does he want help? Has he tried to get help in the past and that help failed? If drug or alcohol issues, has he sought treatment and honestly worked a program or just gone through the motions?

Regardless, his mother has my sympathy, as do his neighbors. Living with and next door to someone intent on destroying their life is hard. If the perpetrator has sought treatment and the treatment failed, that is a tragedy for everyone. If he is just a thug happy with his life as it is, that's a tragedy for his mother and, yes, she should put on her big girl panties and show him the door. But we don't live in her house or wear or her shoes, so ....

Just saying he should be locked up is easy to say, but we need all the facts, not just the headlines.

Taltarzac725
09-18-2016, 09:21 PM
Too many things we don't know. Is his behavior due to some brain damage, mental illness, substance abuse? Unless we know the underlying root cause, it is awfully hard to judge. Does he want help? Has he tried to get help in the past and that help failed? If drug or alcohol issues, has he sought treatment and honestly worked a program or just gone through the motions?

Regardless, his mother has my sympathy, as do his neighbors. Living with and next door to someone intent on destroying their life is hard. If the perpetrator has sought treatment and the treatment failed, that is a tragedy for everyone. If he is just a thug happy with his life as it is, that's a tragedy for his mother and, yes, she should put on her big girl panties and show him the door. But we don't live in her house or wear or her shoes, so ....

Just saying he should be locked up is easy to say, but we need all the facts, not just the headlines.

Nicely put, redwitch.

Nucky
09-18-2016, 09:33 PM
this person, not a man in my opinion, needs to do some jail time in the big house for a change and let him see his new pecking order.:pepper2:

Jail may be the answer, it also may be a chance for him to sharpen his skills with the other men in the yard. Hope he seeks recovery. Who really knows?

outlaw
09-19-2016, 07:41 AM
I do not drink, smoke, take recreational drugs or anything like that. And I am usually very polite. In the Fall of 1992, I went to BYU Law School for ten days or so and was put off by all their rules but it was the pressure to convert to Mormonism from my Puerto Rican dancer roommate that really made me drop out. It did make me very interested in Law Librarianship though. I did work my way through the University of Denver to get a MA (May, 1984) in Librarianship and also earned JD from the University of Minnesota (May, 1989). I worked through my 2nd and 3rd Years of Law School.

I have met other Villager adult children who have many admirable qualities and are living at home.


Marquis Who's Who nominated me to 24 of their different publications from 1992 through 2004. That was while I was living at home working on my 224 613 Project with four degrees and winning often in my efforts internationally to get practical materials into libraries of all kinds for survivors/victims of crimes. I am listed in 14 of these various publications and all of this very hard work was done while living with my parents who admittedly have been wonderful putting up with me and my hobby.

I am still fighting for these survivors/victims of crimes with respect to practical information. I have probably done more for survivor/victims of crimes with respect to access to practical information than several working people combined because I do not have to get any approval from some University Committee to do anything nor answer to stockholders or whatever kind of organizational oversight. I do have to answer to any kind of governmental entities that do keep track of my efforts. All activists do have to abide by the various laws in their countries.

Sounds like an interesting life. Have you thought about writing an autobiography?

outlaw
09-19-2016, 07:51 AM
He may be a victim of child abuse or bullying in school, or oppressed by white privilege. Maybe he has been harassed by police simply for walking while self identifying as other than white. His rap sheet is indicative of PTSD caused by institutional oppression. I'm sure he's a good and kind person.

Taltarzac725
09-19-2016, 08:05 AM
Sounds like an interesting life. Have you thought about writing an autobiography?

I am working on it. It is not actually an autobiography. Many people are also writing this with me.