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Guest
09-18-2016, 06:03 PM
The candidates differ on this issue Trump wants a temporary ban on certain high risk areas of the world, halting most.

Clinton wants 650,000 primarily from Syria to march in along with Mexico.

last few days with bombs in NYC, seaside NJ two bombs, and the Mall stabbings.

along with many terrorists activities earlier this year including France & Germany. Mexico as to drugs guns & criminals living here.

how and why would your candidate make you and yours feel safer?

:shrug:

Guest
09-18-2016, 06:41 PM
Illegal Aliens are criminals. All of them. Catch them, deport them and give them the choice of leaving their American born children here or taking them with them. If an illegal commits a crime in the U.S. put him in jail just like any other criminal. Don't depot him unless it is a non-violent, non-felony crime and leave it up to the judge whether he ought to be incarcerated or not.
Charge and prosecute any/ANY employers that knowingly hire an illegal.
Do not give an illegal health care, driver's license or any other benefit that is meant for AMerican citizens only.
All illegals should be treated on an individual case basis. If they are criminal through the criminal courts. If they are unemployed, deported immediately. If they are good families, let the judge decide the penalty for breaking our laws.
It's not all black and white unless the citizens wish it to be. Other presidents have deported mass groups of illegals. Other countries do not treat illegals gently.

Guest
09-18-2016, 06:58 PM
Illegal Aliens are criminals. All of them. Catch them, deport them and give them the choice of leaving their American born children here or taking them with them. If an illegal commits a crime in the U.S. put him in jail just like any other criminal. Don't depot him unless it is a non-violent, non-felony crime and leave it up to the judge whether he ought to be incarcerated or not.
Charge and prosecute any/ANY employers that knowingly hire an illegal.
Do not give an illegal health care, driver's license or any other benefit that is meant for AMerican citizens only.
All illegals should be treated on an individual case basis. If they are criminal through the criminal courts. If they are unemployed, deported immediately. If they are good families, let the judge decide the penalty for breaking our laws.
It's not all black and white unless the citizens wish it to be. Other presidents have deported mass groups of illegals. Other countries do not treat illegals gently.

Common sense ... if only it were truly more common. I agree with you.

Guest
09-18-2016, 07:01 PM
Throw the people who hire the illegals in jail and that will stop it faster than anything else.


Starting with the Morse family and Trump. :D


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CNM

Guest
09-18-2016, 07:01 PM
The candidates differ on this issue Trump wants a temporary ban on certain high risk areas of the world, halting most.

Clinton wants 650,000 primarily from Syria to march in along with Mexico.

last few days with bombs in NYC, seaside NJ two bombs, and the Mall stabbings.

along with many terrorists activities earlier this year including France & Germany. Mexico as to drugs guns & criminals living here.

how and why would your candidate make you and yours feel safer?

:shrug:

Uh, if I were a retarded liberal, I think I could guess at the correct answer. Given that we all know that, while not all Muslims are terrorists, pretty much all terrorists are Muslims.

Therefore, applying my liberal logic ... the only answer can be .. BRING MORE OF THEM IN.

( I really can't understand how they think like this but I believe I'm pretty close to summarizing what they want :) )

Guest
09-18-2016, 07:03 PM
My feelings are that with Trump as President we would have a much better chance
of having our current immigration laws enforced.
This has been needed for a long time.

Guest
09-18-2016, 07:06 PM
Throw the people who hire the illegals in jail and that will stop it faster than anything else.


Starting with the Morse family and Trump. :D


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CNM

You seem to be unusually deranged. How did you get that way anyway?

Guest
09-18-2016, 07:06 PM
My feelings are that with Trump as President we would have a much better chance
of having our current immigration laws enforced.
This has been needed for a long time.

Amen!

Guest
09-18-2016, 07:07 PM
Uh, if I were a retarded liberal, I think I could guess at the correct answer. Given that we all know that, while not all Muslims are terrorists, pretty much all terrorists are Muslims.

Therefore, applying my liberal logic ... the only answer can be .. BRING MORE OF THEM IN.

( I really can't understand how they think like this but I believe I'm pretty close to summarizing what they want :) )

Since you are a 1,000 times more likely to die of obesity, and its ancillary diseases, than terrorism...how will Trump make you close your mouth and quit shoveling food in it? :D

And since the same applies to drinking and driving, I'm guessing you are all for automobiles to automatically be disabled...if they detect any alcohol in the air?

I mean shoot, you're so worried about dying...right? ;)

Flaming hypocrite. :1rotfl



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CNM

Guest
09-18-2016, 07:08 PM
Throw the people who hire the illegals in jail and that will stop it faster than anything else.


Starting with the Morse family and Trump. :D


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CNM

You should deny illegals any welfare benefits, that would also stop it pronto!

Guest
09-18-2016, 07:09 PM
You seem to be unusually deranged. How did you get that way anyway?

Too many posters disagreed with her and she lost it.

Hey CNM, pull my finger...............

Guest
09-18-2016, 07:11 PM
You seem to be unusually deranged. How did you get that way anyway?

I cut a little too close to the bone...did I? :D

If the people hiring undocumented workers were put in jail...the influx would almost dry up.

So what you're really saying, is that you're not so much against illegal immigration...you just don't like the color of the skin of the ones that are immigrating. :ohdear:

Thanks for that revelation. :thumbup:


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CNM

Guest
09-18-2016, 07:16 PM
You should deny illegals any welfare benefits, that would also stop it pronto!

I agree it would slow it down, but even those collecting welfare...typically have a household member working.

Throw throw the ones hiring them in jail...and the rest takes care of itself.

Why are you for one...and not the other? ;)



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CNM

Guest
09-18-2016, 07:24 PM
I cut a little too close to the bone...did I? :D

If the people hiring undocumented workers were put in jail...the influx would almost dry up.

So what you're really saying, is that you're not so much against illegal immigration...you just don't like the color of the skin of the ones that are immigrating. :ohdear:

Thanks for that revelation. :thumbup:


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CNM

Bet you get called an idiot a lot.

Guest
09-18-2016, 07:25 PM
I agree it would slow it down, but even those collecting welfare...typically have a household member working.

Throw throw the ones hiring them in jail...and the rest takes care of itself.

Why are you for one...and not the other? ;)



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CNM

Why are you only for enforcing laws against those that hire,
but you seem to be against deporting and denying welfare benefits to those that enter illegally?
We should enforce all of our immigration laws, since they were enacted to promote sensible assimilation of immigrants!
.

Guest
09-18-2016, 07:25 PM
I cut a little too close to the bone...did I? :D

If the people hiring undocumented workers were put in jail...the influx would almost dry up.

So what you're really saying, is that you're not so much against illegal immigration...you just don't like the color of the skin of the ones that are immigrating. :ohdear:

Thanks for that revelation. :thumbup:


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CNM

You still didn't answer my question ... how did you get to be so angry in life?

Guest
09-18-2016, 07:33 PM
You still didn't answer my question ... how did you get to be so angry in life?

I'm far from that. :D

In fact, I had a great life even before I started watching you right-wingnuts ooze out of the woodwork for Chump and publicly displaying....what I knew was hidden just below the surface. :thumbup:

Now, life is even more fun. :1rotfl:




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CNM

Guest
09-18-2016, 07:37 PM
You still didn't answer my question ... how did you get to be so angry in life?

He didn't get the polo pony he wanted as a kid! :shrug:

Guest
09-18-2016, 07:42 PM
He didn't get the polo pony he wanted as a kid! :shrug:

And it did make her very miserable.

Hey CNM, pull my finger.........:boom:

Guest
09-18-2016, 07:50 PM
Since you are a 1,000 times more likely to die of obesity, and its ancillary diseases, than terrorism...how will Trump make you close your mouth and quit shoveling food in it? :D

And since the same applies to drinking and driving, I'm guessing you are all for automobiles to automatically be disabled...if they detect any alcohol in the air?

I mean shoot, you're so worried about dying...right? ;)

Flaming hypocrite. :1rotfl



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CNM

What a STUPID remark, tell that to the nearly 3,000 Americans that died on 9-11...wait, you can',t because THEY"RE DEAD!

Guest
09-18-2016, 07:54 PM
What a STUPID remark, tell that to the nearly 3,000 Americans that died on 9-11...wait, you can',t because THEY"RE DEAD!

And 300,000 people are dead last year from shoving food in their mouth's.


Obesity: Facts, Figures, Guidelines (https://www.wvdhhr.org/bph/oehp/obesity/mortality.htm)


An estimated 300,000 deaths per year are due to the obesity epidemic (57).


So why are you so concerned about one...but not the other? ;)


Flaming hypocrite. :ohdear:



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CNM

Guest
09-18-2016, 07:57 PM
I'm far from that. :D

In fact, I had a great life even before I started watching you right-wingnuts ooze out of the woodwork for Chump and publicly displaying....what I knew was hidden just below the surface. :thumbup:

Now, life is even more fun. :1rotfl:




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CNM

No sorry to say you are "not right" and I don't mean politically.

You should really go back to your cold place up north ... you would likely be happier there.

Guest
09-18-2016, 08:07 PM
Uh, if I were a retarded liberal, I think I could guess at the correct answer. Given that we all know that, while not all Muslims are terrorists, pretty much all terrorists are Muslims.

Therefore, applying my liberal logic ... the only answer can be .. BRING MORE OF THEM IN.

( I really can't understand how they think like this but I believe I'm pretty close to summarizing what they want :) )

I think they WANT anarchy so they can declare martial law and clamp down on everything. Total control. It can be done when/if EVERYTHING goes digital, when everything is done "online".

Amen!

Why testify to the Egyptian God Amen? (Amun, Amun Ra
older than/the basis for your God of Abraham)


You should deny illegals any welfare benefits, that would also stop it pronto!

THEY already are denied benefits...but their "anchor baby", children born here of illegals, ARE eligible. They're having their own children and now they number 1/3 the population, over 100 million. They will be the majority within 30 years and it will change the country for the worse. We will be 3rd world soon.

Guest
09-18-2016, 08:07 PM
And 300,000 people are dead last year from shoving food in their mouth's.


Obesity: Facts, Figures, Guidelines (https://www.wvdhhr.org/bph/oehp/obesity/mortality.htm)




So why are you so concerned about one...but not the other? ;)


Flaming hypocrite. :ohdear:



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CNM

A sick mind will only yield sick answers!

Guest
09-18-2016, 08:27 PM
And 300,000 people are dead last year from shoving food in their mouth's.


Obesity: Facts, Figures, Guidelines (https://www.wvdhhr.org/bph/oehp/obesity/mortality.htm)




So why are you so concerned about one...but not the other? ;)


Flaming hypocrite. :ohdear:



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CNM

Because one action (eating to excess) is voluntary and the other (being killed by terrirists) was not. Are you too stupid to know the difference?

Guest
09-19-2016, 05:44 AM
Because one action (eating to excess) is voluntary and the other (being killed by terrirists) was not. Are you too stupid to know the difference?

So basically you are more scared of being killed by them.....because a terrorist has a different religion and skin color?

C'mon, you can just say it (you're not gonna keel over or be struck by lightning)...you're simply a flaming hypocrite and bigot. :ho:

And mentioning again, drunk driving kills thousands of innocent (other than the drunk) people a year also.

Why aren't you as concerned about promulgating laws that keep vehicles from starting...if there is alcohol in the air of the cabin?

Not to mention those obese folks who die of sudden heart attacks while driving...putting many innocents in jeopardy.

No, I am far from stupid (sorry :D)...but you've just exposed your bigotry and prejudice.

Thanks for that. :thumbup:


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CNM

Guest
09-19-2016, 07:44 AM
So basically you are more scared of being killed by them.....because a terrorist has a different religion and skin color?

C'mon, you can just say it (you're not gonna keel over or be struck by lightning)...you're simply a flaming hypocrite and bigot. :ho:

And mentioning again, drunk driving kills thousands of innocent (other than the drunk) people a year also.

Why aren't you as concerned about promulgating laws that keep vehicles from starting...if there is alcohol in the air of the cabin?

Not to mention those obese folks who die of sudden heart attacks while driving...putting many innocents in jeopardy.

No, I am far from stupid (sorry :D)...but you've just exposed your bigotry and prejudice.

Thanks for that. [emoji106]


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CNM
Cnm, go ride a subway in NYC today like my family has to.

Get your head out of the la la land sand.

Everyone is affected, even your head in the sand a$$, the trillions of dollars going into the war on terror could be used for fighting obesity, cancer etc etc.

You are too small to even imagine the big picture.

Glad the election is over.

Guest
09-19-2016, 07:47 AM
The candidates differ on this issue Trump wants a temporary ban on certain high risk areas of the world, halting most.

Clinton wants 650,000 primarily from Syria to march in along with Mexico.

last few days with bombs in NYC, seaside NJ two bombs, and the Mall stabbings.

along with many terrorists activities earlier this year including France & Germany. Mexico as to drugs guns & criminals living here.

how and why would your candidate make you and yours feel safer?

:shrug:
Please let in more Muslim immigrants. Please, they vote democratic, in their off time, when not making bombs.

Guest
09-19-2016, 08:31 AM
So basically you are more scared of being killed by them.....because a terrorist has a different religion and skin color?

C'mon, you can just say it (you're not gonna keel over or be struck by lightning)...you're simply a flaming hypocrite and bigot. :ho:

And mentioning again, drunk driving kills thousands of innocent (other than the drunk) people a year also.

Why aren't you as concerned about promulgating laws that keep vehicles from starting...if there is alcohol in the air of the cabin?

Not to mention those obese folks who die of sudden heart attacks while driving...putting many innocents in jeopardy.

No, I am far from stupid (sorry :D)...but you've just exposed your bigotry and prejudice.

Thanks for that. :thumbup:


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CNM

As I said, you are too stupid to know the difference.

Guest
09-19-2016, 08:41 AM
major doses of do not engage are in order for this thread that has completely skidded out into "left" field.

School yard pi$$ing contest fantasies being exchanged.

Guest
09-19-2016, 11:24 AM
Because one action (eating to excess) is voluntary and the other (being killed by terrirists) was not. Are you too stupid to know the difference?

BINGO! You guessed it.

Guest
09-19-2016, 11:28 AM
Cnm, go ride a subway in NYC today like my family has to.

Get your head out of the la la land sand.

Everyone is affected, even your head in the sand a$$, the trillions of dollars going into the war on terror could be used for fighting obesity, cancer etc etc.

You are too small to even imagine the big picture.

Glad the election is over.

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What do you expect from a privileged, never accomplished anything, dependent elite?
CNM is one of those that believes in charity as long as someone else is being charitable. A model Liberal.

Guest
09-19-2016, 03:22 PM
:thumbup:

What do you expect from a privileged, never accomplished anything, dependent elite?
CNM is one of those that believes in charity as long as someone else is being charitable. A model Liberal.You need a pretty good figure to be a model Liberal. I'm impressed. Although I don't know who you are.

Guest
09-19-2016, 03:59 PM
I am a first Generation American, my parents came here when they were young, mom 4 dad was 12, neither spoke english BUT you would never know. You would never know my grandparents did not speak english. First thing on their list LEARN ENGLISH. My dad is gone and mom was too young to remember how the process worked, or just can't remember (she's 97 I give her a pass) as to how they became citizens. My dad was in the Army. WW2, We had a good life my point is they did it right, they followed the law, they came through Ellis Island and they followed the law. My grandparents found work and followed the LAW.

My only worry is if WE travel, and they said people not being able to enter this country from countries that have been compromised, were does that leave us? This country has been Compromised! Can we not come home? If they ask you in customs what your religion is and you say Catholic are they going to say prove it. I guess we just do not know enough about what the proposals are. But not I am not against Tough immigration laws. If they had kids sounds terrible BUT I had 3 kids because I did NOT want 4 kids so the kids gotta GO too.

Guest
09-20-2016, 05:12 AM
I am a first Generation American, my parents came here when they were young, mom 4 dad was 12, neither spoke english BUT you would never know. You would never know my grandparents did not speak english. First thing on their list LEARN ENGLISH. My dad is gone and mom was too young to remember how the process worked, or just can't remember (she's 97 I give her a pass) as to how they became citizens. My dad was in the Army. WW2, We had a good life my point is they did it right, they followed the law, they came through Ellis Island and they followed the law. My grandparents found work and followed the LAW.

My only worry is if WE travel, and they said people not being able to enter this country from countries that have been compromised, were does that leave us? This country has been Compromised! Can we not come home? If they ask you in customs what your religion is and you say Catholic are they going to say prove it. I guess we just do not know enough about what the proposals are. But not I am not against Tough immigration laws. If they had kids sounds terrible BUT I had 3 kids because I did NOT want 4 kids so the kids gotta GO too.

What are you talking about? Are you asking about our country or some other country? Are you worried about answering questions to get back into our country (USA) when you are a citizen? Haven't you ever traveled overseas before? It doesn't work like that and it would not work like that. You do not need a visa to get into our country if you are a returning citizen. I think you probably have been given a lot of bogus information by liberals to scare you. When they speak of strict vetting for immigration, they mean during the visa application process, before it is given out to those that wish to visit, work or stay in our country.

Guest
09-20-2016, 07:11 AM
Now that's funny...and beyond desperate. :1rotfl:



What do you expect from a privileged,
Strike one.

Having the luck to have been born a white male, I certainly had a head start in my middle-class upbringing...then worked hard up through the system for all my success. :thumbup:


never accomplished anything,
Strike two.

Googling my real name and industry, the entire front page has my name and articles associated with it (I just tried it :D ).

Throwing out the LinkedIn references, that's still not too bad. :thumbup:


dependent
Strike three (I'm gonna give you a few more strikes...since you need them). :D

And exactly what is so bad about being 'dependent' on your own accomplishments...and savvy financial planning?


elite?
Strike four.

Compared to the other 96% of folks, yeah maybe it fits.

But having busted my a$$ to do so...leaves me with no regrets or guilt.


CNM is one of those that believes in charity as long as someone else is being charitable.
Strike five.

My tax attorney actually asked if I was fudging on what I give. To allay his concern, I showed him my charity spreadsheet. A number of those charities even get an automatic monthly deduction from my bank account.

His comment was... "that's a lot higher % than most of my clients."


A model Liberal.
Strike six and you're out TWICE...in one at-bat.

Actually, I'm a 'model Centrist.' ;)

Having voted for Reagan, H.W. and The Simpleton the first time for each (I thought they were the better candidate, until they showed their spots)...I am far from the partisan hack so many of you have shown to be.


So sorry, although I hate to burst your bubble on your flailings in the dark...I do have to admit to enjoying busting y'alls bigotry/racism/xenophobia/homophobia/misogyny/intolerance/hatefulness/etc.. :boom:



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CNM

Guest
09-20-2016, 07:35 AM
Now that's funny...and beyond desperate. :1rotfl:

Strike one.

Having the luck to have been born a white male, I certainly had a head start in my middle-class upbringing...then worked hard up through the system for all my success. :thumbup:

Strike two.

Googling my real name and industry, the entire front page has my name and articles associated with it (I just tried it :D ).

Throwing out the LinkedIn references, that's still not too bad. :thumbup:

Strike three (I'm gonna give you a few more strikes...since you need them). :D

And exactly what is so bad about being 'dependent' on your own accomplishments...and savvy financial planning?


Strike four.

Compared to the other 96% of folks, yeah maybe it fits.

But having busted my a$$ to do so...leaves me with no regrets or guilt.


Strike five.

My tax attorney actually asked if I was fudging on what I give. To allay his concern, I showed him my charity spreadsheet. A number of those charities even get an automatic monthly deduction from my bank account.

His comment was... "that's a lot higher % than most of my clients."

Strike six and you're out TWICE...in one at-bat.

Actually, I'm a 'model Centrist.' ;)

Having voted for Reagan, H.W. and The Simpleton the first time for each (I thought they were the better candidate, until they showed their spots)...I am far from the partisan hack so many of you have shown to be.

So sorry, although I hate to burst your bubble on your flailings in the dark...I do have to admit to enjoying busting y'alls bigotry/racism/xenophobia/homophobia/misogyny/intolerance/hatefulness/etc.. :boom:

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CNM

Nice diatribe, but you are not very convincing when you are an @ss h***.

Guest
09-20-2016, 07:47 AM
Now that's funny...and beyond desperate. :1rotfl:



Strike one.

Having the luck to have been born a white male, I certainly had a head start in my middle-class upbringing...then worked hard up through the system for all my success. :thumbup:



Strike two.

Googling my real name and industry, the entire front page has my name and articles associated with it (I just tried it :D ).

Throwing out the LinkedIn references, that's still not too bad. :thumbup:



Strike three (I'm gonna give you a few more strikes...since you need them). :D

And exactly what is so bad about being 'dependent' on your own accomplishments...and savvy financial planning?



Strike four.

Compared to the other 96% of folks, yeah maybe it fits.

But having busted my a$$ to do so...leaves me with no regrets or guilt.



Strike five.

My tax attorney actually asked if I was fudging on what I give. To allay his concern, I showed him my charity spreadsheet. A number of those charities even get an automatic monthly deduction from my bank account.

His comment was... "that's a lot higher % than most of my clients."



Strike six and you're out TWICE...in one at-bat.

Actually, I'm a 'model Centrist.' ;)

Having voted for Reagan, H.W. and The Simpleton the first time for each (I thought they were the better candidate, until they showed their spots)...I am far from the partisan hack so many of you have shown to be.


So sorry, although I hate to burst your bubble on your flailings in the dark...I do have to admit to enjoying busting y'alls bigotry/racism/xenophobia/homophobia/misogyny/intolerance/hatefulness/etc.. :boom:



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CNM

"Having the luck to have been born a white male,.."

Sexist!

"I am far from the partisan hack so many of you have shown to be."

Right.....ha,ha, ha......sure.

Well, you responded to just about everyone else on here, like you were replying to only one. Interesting. Why use the "strike" thingy or are you going to leave us ALL if we don't comply?

You did surprise me when you stated that you are a male. Were you born a male physically or mentally? With today's PC regarding trannies or gender confused, we don't want to be misconstrued as being bigots. I was genuinely surprised that you are a male though. Have you been putting on like you are female, or is that your natural manner of writing? Just curious.

Guest
09-20-2016, 02:06 PM
What are you talking about? Are you asking about our country or some other country? Are you worried about answering questions to get back into our country (USA) when you are a citizen? Haven't you ever traveled overseas before? It doesn't work like that and it would not work like that. You do not need a visa to get into our country if you are a returning citizen. I think you probably have been given a lot of bogus information by liberals to scare you. When they speak of strict vetting for immigration, they mean during the visa application process, before it is given out to those that wish to visit, work or stay in our country.

Okay so you're saying when I travel with my passport to France again in 2 years ,which France has been compromised, I would not have a problem reentering this country? Thank you for clueing that up! So many things have been said, it is hard to know what is true and what is not. I did not know they were only talking about Visa travel. Thanks (duh) makes more sense .

Guest
09-20-2016, 04:23 PM
The candidates differ on this issue Trump wants a temporary ban on certain high risk areas of the world, halting most.

Clinton wants 650,000 primarily from Syria to march in along with Mexico.

last few days with bombs in NYC, seaside NJ two bombs, and the Mall stabbings.

along with many terrorists activities earlier this year including France & Germany. Mexico as to drugs guns & criminals living here.

how and why would your candidate make you and yours feel safer?

:shrug:

I would say that, when Hillary Clinton offers you a bowl of Skittles, you should refuse to eat

Guest
09-20-2016, 04:25 PM
Nice diatribe, but you are not very convincing when you are an @ss h***.

You are a very disturbed old woman. Again, I can not thank you enough for deciding to not live in The Villages.

Guest
09-21-2016, 03:39 AM
Okay so you're saying when I travel with my passport to France again in 2 years ,which France has been compromised, I would not have a problem reentering this country? Thank you for clueing that up! So many things have been said, it is hard to know what is true and what is not. I did not know they were only talking about Visa travel. Thanks (duh) makes more sense .

There is a lot of misinformation put out during an election season. If I sounded impatient, disregard the harshness of my abrupt reply above. I have traveled overseas about half my life and sometimes I forget that there are a lot of folks that have hardly even left their home state, let alone traveled abroad. A good site to get information when you travel and travel warnings is the State.gov website. Enjoy your travel but be careful. And don't worry about returning. You won't have a bit of trouble if you have a valid American passport.

Guest
09-21-2016, 03:41 AM
You are a very disturbed old woman. Again, I can not thank you enough for deciding to not live in The Villages.

I don't know who you meant to address your reply to, but it wasn't me.