It's unanimous Donald Trump wins first debate

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Not even cnm can disagree.

Donald takes commanding lead in next nationwide poll, takes lead in key state Pennsylvania.

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This is as about as Presidential as I've ever seen Trump. Still don't like him but no question in my mind that he won this one.

However, he still behaved badly with frequent interruptions and I'd sincerely like to hear some concrete ideas from him.

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This is as about as Presidential as I've ever seen Trump. Still don't like him but no question in my mind that he won this one.

However, he still behaved badly with frequent interruptions and I'd sincerely like to hear some concrete ideas from him.

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Actually she was very smug and she got all the time she wanted .
She kept cutting him off . She had memorized very general comments and lines which on the surface probably dazzled a lot of people but it was all fluff .

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Not even cnm can disagree.

Donald takes commanding lead in next nationwide poll, takes lead in key state Pennsylvania.

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OK, that was frigging hilarious. :thumbup:

While I'm sure Trump didn't lose any of his base, he was so far from being 'Presidential' or even having any specific ideas/plans except "I will make better deals" ...he certainly didn't win any intelligent voters that might be sitting on the fence. :ohdear:

Hillary did miss one great opportunity though, when he kept talking about renegotiating deals with foreign nations, all she had to do was to say something like... "Sorry Donald, but the word of the United States is too important to stiff others on deals we've agreed to...unlike what you've made a practice of doing in your private business dealings." :D

For anyone who actually has an idea of what a real debate is about...Hillary absolutely smoked him. Deep down, even his rabid supporters know it. :ho:

Now we'll have to listen to the whining from the right until the next debate.....about how it was all 'rigged' in Hillary's favor. :D

Just wait for it. :popcorn:





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CNM

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This just in:

Financial markets say Clinton beat Trump in the debate
BY STEVE GOLDSTEIN | MARKETWATCH - 3 MINUTES AGO

The American people get the last word, but in rapid-fire financial markets, traders Monday night delivered a quick verdict for Hillary Clinton.

U.S. stock futures climbed, and the Mexican peso also gained ground in wake of the clash between the Democratic and Republican presidential candidates.

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This is as about as Presidential as I've ever seen Trump. Still don't like him but no question in my mind that he won this one.

However, he still behaved badly with frequent interruptions and I'd sincerely like to hear some concrete ideas from him.

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Yes all Presidents make comments about 400lb people hacking emails from bed! I know I've heard that from at least 4 or 5 different Presidents.

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Not even cnm can disagree.

Donald takes commanding lead in next nationwide poll, takes lead in key state Pennsylvania.Did you watch the same debate as some of us did?

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Did you watch the same debate as some of us did?
Watch the polls, trumps gains big time with independents, except the 400 lb ones.

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The debate was a bust. Other than the fact that they were able to get Hillary out of her closet for longer than a five minute reveal, nothing new was revealed. Did it change anyone's vote? No. This was a waste of 90 minutes, just so that political pundits would have something to talk about.

Here's what I heard and saw:

Donald was basically the same, although a bit reserved toward the beginning.
Donald was given personal questions by the moderator to Hillary receiving NONE. No big deal but proved liberal bias. Like I said, no big deal --- gotta deal with it.
Hillary smiled a lot at the beginning and then her smiles were faked and forced along with her body movements. She attempted to control her head bobbing, much to my disappointment.
Hillary was fact checked and found to be wrong on several occasions.
Hillary's strategy was to taunt Donald to keep him from commenting on her many felonies.
Hillary revealed her goal of having the gov provide jobs for everyone, and also for the gov to come into your homes and teach you have to budget your income. She also said that white people needed to be educated in diversity and race relations. She promised to provide ten million jobs, but forgot to explain why she could not even provide the 400,000 jobs she promised NY when she was a senator. She also said she was going to tax the rich more because they don't pay their fair share. She failed to tell us how this was going to help the middle class. Yes, it may help the lower class with benefits, but none of it goes to the middle class. She plans to create more gov jobs, but fails to tell us how she is going to pay for them. Taxing the rich is not going to pay for the jobs. Even if they tax them at 90% of their income. But, she wants the gov to do everything for us. She also wants our police to be trained because they are arresting too many criminals. I can understand how she can empathize with criminals since she has so much in common with them.

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Oh, I forgot to add one important point that Donald made several times:

Hillary has been in politics for 30 years and is just now deciding to come up with all these plans. Donald wanted to know why suddenly now that she is running for president. Why didn't she attempt to make these changes in the last 30 years? And he wanted to know why anyone would want to continue with the failed policies of the past 8 years.

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I think we all lost in this debate. We lost 90 minutes that we can't get back.

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Oh, I forgot to add one important point that Donald made several times:

Hillary has been in politics for 30 years and is just now deciding to come up with all these plans. Donald wanted to know why suddenly now that she is running for president. Why didn't she attempt to make these changes in the last 30 years? And he wanted to know why anyone would want to continue with the failed policies of the past 8 years.
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It's all over, just waiting for the 400 pound woman to sing!

Bye bye cnm

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It's all over, just waiting for the 400 pound woman to sing!

Bye bye cnm

Hillary does not weigh 400lbs yet, and with a voice like hers, I doubt anyone would want to hear her sing. :clap2:

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FactChecking the First Debate (http://www.factcheck.org/2016/09/factchecking-the-first-debate/)

Fact checking the debate last night.

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Who Won the First Presidential Debate? (http://fortune.com/2016/09/26/presidential-debate-who-won/)

Most of the media I checked have Hillary Clinton as winning the debate last night 9/26/2016.

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So I guess what you and Trump are trying to allege is that Hillary has been in charge of the entire US for 30 years? What a lame argument. I guess that all the presidents and legislators were on the side lines while Hillary rand the country. Think about it. Again Trump's fear mongering is his base. He dodged every question asked by trying to attack Clinton. She rattled his cage good and he fell for it. This guy is a just a bully full of hot air. Why do you people continue to buy into his ridiculous rhetoric.

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Not even cnm can disagree.

Donald takes commanding lead in next nationwide poll, takes lead in key state Pennsylvania.

Lies, lies and more lies.

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Who Won the First Presidential Debate? (http://fortune.com/2016/09/26/presidential-debate-who-won/)

Most of the media I checked have Hillary Clinton as winning the debate last night 9/26/2016.

Not a surprise, most of the media have a liberal bias.

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Not a surprise, most of the media have a liberal bias.

Did you even watch the debate? Trump did not do all that well no matter what Republican or Democratic media source you check.

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Funny the moderator did not ask Clinton about emails, or deplorables or Benghazi or the Clinton Foundation or any hard question whatsoever, what a surprise! And still Trump won. Clinton stands no chance. It's over.

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Funny the moderator did not ask Clinton about emails, or deplorables or Benghazi or the Clinton Foundation or any hard question whatsoever, what a surprise! And still Trump won. Clinton stands no chance. It's over.

Trump won? He is making excuses about his mic not working as why he lost!!!

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Trump won? He is making excuses about his mic not working as why he lost!!!
I know Hofstra University well, the student body and staff are incredibly liberal, makes bernie sanders look conservative.

Everyone in audience acknowledged mic and speaker issue.

They are capable of anything.

Tal, are you doubting there was a mic problem?

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Describe the students at your school. | Hofstra University | Page 1 | Unigo (https://www.unigo.com/colleges/hofstra-university/q-and-a/describe-the-students-at-your-school-6/1)

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Anybody who watched the debate could only reach one conclusion.

Clinton had Lester Holt on her side.

It was obvious all night in the time alloted to her responses, the personal counterpointing with Trump, not asking Clinton one contriversial question (as he did Trump).

This article pretty well sums it up. And no I do not care who or what the source is for those who want to switch subjects.
The message, THE MESSAGE, is the point:

Lester Holt: The Third Debater? | Heat Street (http://heatst.com/politics/lester-holt-the-third-debater/)

I personally thought Trump could have done much better at hitting Clinton on her hot buttons; but he did not.

Given he was debating one against two I think he held his own with the consistent message he used to defeat 17 previous competitors.

We all saw what we wanted to see or not last night.

We can expect the usual name calling and bombastic, sidrespectful bashing from the usual participants as already demonstrated in the posts prior to this one.

Somehow they just cannot have an opposing opinion without being nasty and disrespectful. They have attained the cry wolf status that nobody pays attention to anyway.

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Did you even watch the debate? Trump did not do all that well no matter what Republican or Democratic media source you check.

Yes, I watched the debate, but what does that have to do with my statement regarding the media and liberal bias? Are you implying that the media are not biased?

Conservatives are right: The news media is very liberal (http://fortune.com/2015/11/02/liberal-media/)

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Presidential Debate: Hillary Clinton puts Donald Trump on defense - CNNPolitics.com (http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/26/politics/presidential-debate-hillary-clinton-donald-trump/)

Actually do some research before calling names or putting a title on a thread that starts with an outright lie.

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Some do not realize on opinions about the debate with the Clinton supporters is like entering a pi$$ing contest with a skunk!!
There is only one outcome.

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I know Hofstra University well, the student body and staff are incredibly liberal, makes bernie sanders look conservative.

Everyone in audience acknowledged mic and speaker issue.

They are capable of anything.

Tal, are you doubting there was a mic problem?
Al, the mic problem on my end was that they should have turned it down on Trump's rants. The more he lost it, the louder he got.

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Al, the mic problem on my end was that they should have turned it down on Trump's rants. The more he lost it, the louder he got.

That was because Lester the Dem's jester was turning up the Trump volume.

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I don't know what debate you were watching BUT both test groups of un-decided results were 16 to 6 and 12 to 2 Clinton.







QUOTE=Guest;1296051]Not even cnm can disagree.

Donald takes commanding lead in next nationwide poll, takes lead in key state Pennsylvania.[/QUOTE]

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Typically repub BS!

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After seeing Trump's performance last night and his not being able to answer questions like, "what would you do to bring manufacturing companies back to the US?", I am voting Hillary!!

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After seeing Trump's performance last night and his not being able to answer questions like, "what would you do to bring manufacturing companies back to the US?", I am voting Hillary!!

You are holding it against Trump for acting political.

We are sure that his side stepping the question made your decision.

If side stepping or not answering the question are your criteria then how in the hell do you conclude voting for Clinton?

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Oh, I forgot to add one important point that Donald made several times:

Hillary has been in politics for 30 years and is just now deciding to come up with all these plans. Donald wanted to know why suddenly now that she is running for president. Why didn't she attempt to make these changes in the last 30 years? And he wanted to know why anyone would want to continue with the failed policies of the past 8 years.

You are missing one very important fact. She has been advocating for the American people for 30 years, or more, correct. Republicans in congress, "aginners", have blocked making any changes beneficial to anyone but themselves.

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Did you even watch the debate? Trump did not do all that well no matter what Republican or Democratic media source you check.

You are missing one very important fact. She has been advocating for the American people for 30 years, or more, correct. Republicans in congress, "aginners", have blocked making any changes beneficial to anyone but themselves.

"Advocating for the American people", what does that mean? Hell, even I advocate for the American people. What legislation has Hillary EVER proposed that would actually benefit the American people?

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After seeing Trump's performance last night and his not being able to answer questions like, "what would you do to bring manufacturing companies back to the US?", I am voting Hillary!!

Take the wax out of your ears, bub. He did give an answer and a good answer. Too bad you are fixated on electing a criminal and disloyal scumbag (Hitlery).

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Take the wax out of your ears, bub. He did give an answer and a good answer. Too bad you are fixated on electing a criminal and disloyal scumbag (Hitlery).

Could you type his answer on here for us as I must have missed it as well.

I heard him "answer" by saying he would simply stop them from leaving. BUT again.....

Will look forward to your explanation..

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You are missing one very important fact. She has been advocating for the American people for 30 years, or more, correct. Republicans in congress, "aginners", have blocked making any changes beneficial to anyone but themselves.

I bet you get called stupid a lot.

Hitlery has been in politics in some manner for 30 years, having broken almost every law in Yale's library. She has done NOTHING for anyone else, and has no one to prove otherwise. She kills all her witnesses. She is lazy. She spent six years in congress and did NOTHING. She promised 400,000 new jobs to NY and couldn't even provide one. Liberals don't do anything positive for AMerica. They destroy America. They turn everyone possible into leaches, dependent on the few workers left. You blame it on the rich, the republicans, the whites, but anyone other than those that have truly brought America to a limping stop. Get it through your head that Hitlery is only in this for herself, no one else. She is a criminal and that is what criminals do. And you are simple minded if you encourage her crime spree.

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To save you time, here is the full transcript of the debate and that question which had to be re asked because he did not answer it is not far down.

I must have mis read his answer to how he will bring back those jobs...

Presidential Debate Full Transcript: Everything Trump and Clinton Said (http://fortune.com/2016/09/26/presidential-debate-transcript/)

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Could you type his answer on here for us as I must have missed it as well.

I heard him "answer" by saying he would simply stop them from leaving. BUT again.....

Will look forward to your explanation..

Don't you have a DVR? Oh, I forgot you are one of those DEPENDENT liberals that need everyone else to do it for you. In that case, use your liberal tarded Google search and check out his answer. Try not to ignore it this time. Wow!

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Don't you have a DVR? Oh, I forgot you are one of those DEPENDENT liberals that need everyone else to do it for you. In that case, use your liberal tarded Google search and check out his answer. Try not to ignore it this time. Wow!

Ok....as I said, I supplied the transcript and you choose to ignore that so allow me to copy and paste that part...

"HOLT: Back to the question, though. How do you bring back — specifically bring back jobs, American manufacturers? How do you make them bring the jobs back?

TRUMP: Well, the first thing you do is don’t let the jobs leave. The companies are leaving. I could name, I mean, there are thousands of them. They’re leaving, and they’re leaving in bigger numbers than ever.

And what you do is you say, fine, you want to go to Mexico or some other country, good luck. We wish you a lot of luck. But if you think you’re going to make your air conditioners or your cars or your cookies or whatever you make and bring them into our country without a tax, you’re wrong.

And once you say you’re going to have to tax them coming in, and our politicians never do this, because they have special interests and the special interests want those companies to leave, because in many cases, they own the companies. So what I’m saying is, we can stop them from leaving. We have to stop them from leaving. And that’s a big, big factor."


I might be missing something so enlighten me....do not see how he is getting the jobs BACK TO THE USA as he always says.

Thanks for pointing it out when you do.

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From Trump's website:
Business Tax
The Trump plan will lower the business tax rate from 35 percent to 15 percent, and eliminate the corporate alternative minimum tax. This rate is available to all businesses, both big and small, that that want to retain the profits within the business.
It will provide a deemed repatriation of corporate profits held offshore at a one-time tax rate of 10 percent.
It eliminates most corporate tax expenditures except for the Research and Development credit.
Firms engaged in manufacturing in the US may elect to expense capital investment and lose the deductibility of corporate interest expense. An election once made can only be revoked within the first 3 years of election; if revoked, returns for prior years would need to be amended to show revised status. After 3 years, election is irrevocable.
The annual cap for the business tax credit for on-site childcare authorized by Sec. 205 of the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001 would be increased to $500,000 per year (up from $150,000) and recapture period would be reduced to 5 years (down from 10 years).
Businesses that pay a portion of an employee’s childcare expenses can exclude those contributions from income. Employees who are recipients of direct employer subsidies would not be able to exclude those costs from the individual income tax and the costs of direct subsidies to employees could not be used as a cost eligible for the credit.


Donald J. Trump’s tax plan will increase the economy and grow jobs by almost 2 million, while Hillary Clinton’s tax plan will shrink the economy and lose 300,000 jobs. [Tax Foundation, September19, 2016 and Tax Foundation, January 26, 2016] In combination with the total economic reform agenda, the Trump economic plan will create at least 25 million jobs over the next 10 years.

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Ok....as I said, I supplied the transcript and you choose to ignore that so allow me to copy and paste that part...

"HOLT: Back to the question, though. How do you bring back — specifically bring back jobs, American manufacturers? How do you make them bring the jobs back?

TRUMP: Well, the first thing you do is don’t let the jobs leave. The companies are leaving. I could name, I mean, there are thousands of them. They’re leaving, and they’re leaving in bigger numbers than ever.

And what you do is you say, fine, you want to go to Mexico or some other country, good luck. We wish you a lot of luck. But if you think you’re going to make your air conditioners or your cars or your cookies or whatever you make and bring them into our country without a tax, you’re wrong.

And once you say you’re going to have to tax them coming in, and our politicians never do this, because they have special interests and the special interests want those companies to leave, because in many cases, they own the companies. So what I’m saying is, we can stop them from leaving. We have to stop them from leaving. And that’s a big, big factor."


I might be missing something so enlighten me....do not see how he is getting the jobs BACK TO THE USA as he always says.

Thanks for pointing it out when you do.

What was Hillary's plan again? Tax the rich? More Gov jobs? Is that how we build our economy? How has that worked for the past 8 years? Less than 2% GDP? That's still a recession. The slowest economic restoration in HISTORY. And she wants to continue this. She says she wants to invest more money into infrastructure jobs. Obama got a trillion to do it and even he admitted that there were no "shovel ready jobs." He wasted a trillion and Hillary wants to repeat the same failure. You know what they say about repeating the same exercise, expecting different results, right?

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Ok....as I said, I supplied the transcript and you choose to ignore that so allow me to copy and paste that part...

"HOLT: Back to the question, though. How do you bring back — specifically bring back jobs, American manufacturers? How do you make them bring the jobs back?

TRUMP: Well, the first thing you do is don’t let the jobs leave. The companies are leaving. I could name, I mean, there are thousands of them. They’re leaving, and they’re leaving in bigger numbers than ever.

And what you do is you say, fine, you want to go to Mexico or some other country, good luck. We wish you a lot of luck. But if you think you’re going to make your air conditioners or your cars or your cookies or whatever you make and bring them into our country without a tax, you’re wrong.

And once you say you’re going to have to tax them coming in, and our politicians never do this, because they have special interests and the special interests want those companies to leave, because in many cases, they own the companies. So what I’m saying is, we can stop them from leaving. We have to stop them from leaving. And that’s a big, big factor."


I might be missing something so enlighten me....do not see how he is getting the jobs BACK TO THE USA as he always says.

Thanks for pointing it out when you do.

SO, you did not watch it or you would have what he said, and not just an excerpt of one conversation. Oh well, why don't you vote for your criminal mastermind instead of Trump, Ok?

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From Trump's website:
Business Tax
The Trump plan will lower the business tax rate from 35 percent to 15 percent, and eliminate the corporate alternative minimum tax. This rate is available to all businesses, both big and small, that that want to retain the profits within the business.
It will provide a deemed repatriation of corporate profits held offshore at a one-time tax rate of 10 percent.
It eliminates most corporate tax expenditures except for the Research and Development credit.
Firms engaged in manufacturing in the US may elect to expense capital investment and lose the deductibility of corporate interest expense. An election once made can only be revoked within the first 3 years of election; if revoked, returns for prior years would need to be amended to show revised status. After 3 years, election is irrevocable.
The annual cap for the business tax credit for on-site childcare authorized by Sec. 205 of the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001 would be increased to $500,000 per year (up from $150,000) and recapture period would be reduced to 5 years (down from 10 years).
Businesses that pay a portion of an employee’s childcare expenses can exclude those contributions from income. Employees who are recipients of direct employer subsidies would not be able to exclude those costs from the individual income tax and the costs of direct subsidies to employees could not be used as a cost eligible for the credit.


Donald J. Trump’s tax plan will increase the economy and grow jobs by almost 2 million, while Hillary Clinton’s tax plan will shrink the economy and lose 300,000 jobs. [Tax Foundation, September19, 2016 and Tax Foundation, January 26, 2016] In combination with the total economic reform agenda, the Trump economic plan will create at least 25 million jobs over the next 10 years.

what would you expect at his website....

Now, this is a link to the TAX POLICY CENTER...

Analysis of Donald Trump's Tax Plan | Full Report | Tax Policy Center (http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/publications/analysis-donald-trumps-tax-plan/full)

The long and detailed review has this as its last sentence...

"The fundamental concern the plan poses is that, barring extraordinarily large cuts in government spendingor future tax increases, it would yield persistently large, and likely unsustainable, budget deficits."

And before you call this site a left wing something or other...

"The Tax Policy Center (TPC), officially the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center,[1][2][3] is a think tank based in Washington D.C.[4] A joint venture of the Urban Institute and the Brookings Institution, it aims to provide independent analyses of current and longer-term tax issues, and to communicate its analyses to the public and to policymakers. TPC combines national specialists in tax, expenditure, budget policy, and microsimulation modeling to concentrate on five overarching areas of tax policy: fair, simple and efficient taxation, social policy in the tax code, business tax reform, long-term implications of tax and budget choices, and state tax issues."

Tax Policy Center - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_Policy_Center)

"UNSUSTAINABLE BUDGET DEFICITS" is not something this country needs now.

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SO, you did not watch it or you would have what he said, and not just an excerpt of one conversation. Oh well, why don't you vote for your criminal mastermind instead of Trump, Ok?

I watched every single minute of it.

I thought Trump was great for many 20 minutes and I have to add I watched it all to try to find someway to find something good, BUT he reverted back to his childish, immature lying ways after the first 20 minutes or so.

I do not believe we can afford a man like this in the WH and cannot undertand anyone thinking we can after the exchange on income tax. The man has ties to and has had ties to so many countries we cannot afford our President to have PERSONAL DEBT with. Just imagine that.

I assume also from your response that you simply made up the fat that he answered which is another reason for my non support and disgust. You people believe everything he says and defend him not matter how vile his. That is simply scary and brings back memories of bad times in historyl

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I watched every single minute of it.

I thought Trump was great for many 20 minutes and I have to add I watched it all to try to find someway to find something good, BUT he reverted back to his childish, immature lying ways after the first 20 minutes or so.

I do not believe we can afford a man like this in the WH and cannot undertand anyone thinking we can after the exchange on income tax. The man has ties to and has had ties to so many countries we cannot afford our President to have PERSONAL DEBT with. Just imagine that.

I assume also from your response that you simply made up the fat that he answered which is another reason for my non support and disgust. You people believe everything he says and defend him not matter how vile his. That is simply scary and brings back memories of bad times in historyl

I heard what he said. I just don't feel like repeating everything that you missed because of your refusal to admit that he has better ideas for improving our country. Hitlery wishes to borrow more money to pay for more shovel ready jobs that didn't work. She wishes to continue with Obama's policies that haven't worked in 8 years. As a matter of fact it has been the worst and slowest economic recovery in history. So, you go right ahead and keep demanding that conservatives do everything for you, because that is what libtards do, demand someone else's labor. I also listened to Hitlary's spew and just heard a white obama rerun. She has no new ideas and seems to be satisified at how bad our country has been run in the past 8 years. She really didn't have any other choice, considering she is part of the reason.

And how about that pipe line? If she wanted to help so much, she could have gotten that approved, just as easily as she got the uranium sale to russia approved.

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Ok....as I said, I supplied the transcript and you choose to ignore that so allow me to copy and paste that part...

"HOLT: Back to the question, though. How do you bring back — specifically bring back jobs, American manufacturers? How do you make them bring the jobs back?

TRUMP: Well, the first thing you do is don’t let the jobs leave. The companies are leaving. I could name, I mean, there are thousands of them. They’re leaving, and they’re leaving in bigger numbers than ever.

And what you do is you say, fine, you want to go to Mexico or some other country, good luck. We wish you a lot of luck. But if you think you’re going to make your air conditioners or your cars or your cookies or whatever you make and bring them into our country without a tax, you’re wrong.

And once you say you’re going to have to tax them coming in, and our politicians never do this, because they have special interests and the special interests want those companies to leave, because in many cases, they own the companies. So what I’m saying is, we can stop them from leaving. We have to stop them from leaving. And that’s a big, big factor."


I might be missing something so enlighten me....do not see how he is getting the jobs BACK TO THE USA as he always says.

Thanks for pointing it out when you do.

Are you really whinning because Trump didn't answer a question?

You must be aware that if you are a politician this is what they do.

To single out Trump in this case is as significant as picking fly specs out of pepper.

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I bet you get called stupid a lot.

Hitlery has been in politics in some manner for 30 years, having broken almost every law in Yale's library. She has done NOTHING for anyone else, and has no one to prove otherwise. She kills all her witnesses. She is lazy. She spent six years in congress and did NOTHING. She promised 400,000 new jobs to NY and couldn't even provide one. Liberals don't do anything positive for AMerica. They destroy America. They turn everyone possible into leaches, dependent on the few workers left. You blame it on the rich, the republicans, the whites, but anyone other than those that have truly brought America to a limping stop. Get it through your head that Hitlery is only in this for herself, no one else. She is a criminal and that is what criminals do. And you are simple minded if you encourage her crime spree.

You start with stupid and end with simple minded. And just rambling in between. Perfect Trump post.

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You start with stupid and end with simple minded. And just rambling in between. Perfect Trump post.

Thank you, chi. I consider that a compliment, being compared with our future president. Of course, I am sure that you are attempting to defend your homey from Chi-Town.

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I didn't know Hillary was president for the past 30 years.

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Thank you, chi. I consider that a compliment, being compared with our future president. Of course, I am sure that you are attempting to defend your homey from Chi-Town.

He still unfortunately could be the President of the United States. But that will be because of the apathy of many towards Hillary Clinton. If she has another performance like last night though she might be the first woman President.

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I didn't know Hillary was president for the past 30 years.

Donald Trump seems to think that the President has the power of a dictator. He/she does not. Not even the WWII President FDR.

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Donald Trump seems to think that the President has the power of a dictator. He/she does not. Not even the WWII President FDR.
Actually Obama thinks he is the dictator. ...and he is a horrific racist dictator.

Everyone should watch the hearings on Sanctuary cities and see the disaster your dictator has caused!

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Actually Obama thinks he is the dictator. ...and he is a horrific racist dictator.

Everyone should watch the hearings on Sanctuary cities and see the disaster your dictator has caused!

A simple minded response for sure.

I hate sanctuary cities and have a real problem with Obama's handling but both parties had many opportunities to pass immigration law which would have taken care of that problem but they didnt.....BOTH PARTIES.

So if you want to discuss immigration and sanctuary cities should be a part of that debate, but please your statements reflect a total lack knowledge and a total heart of hate.

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What was Hillary's plan again? Tax the rich? More Gov jobs? Is that how we build our economy? How has that worked for the past 8 years? Less than 2% GDP? That's still a recession. The slowest economic restoration in HISTORY. And she wants to continue this. She says she wants to invest more money into infrastructure jobs. Obama got a trillion to do it and even he admitted that there were no "shovel ready jobs." He wasted a trillion and Hillary wants to repeat the same failure. You know what they say about repeating the same exercise, expecting different results, right? You forgot to mention some facts about that slow recovery.
#1 W left Obama a Recession that was almost as deep as a depression is.
#2 We have never got out of a recession that was that deep or a depression in less then 10 Years
Till Obama
#3 we have never got out of a depression or a recession as deep as the last one with out going into a Major war like WW II.

As for " repeating the same exercise, and expecting different results"
Doesn't Trump want to cut taxes on the rich and big Corp. again?
Lets see didn't Reagan do that?
Didn't he run the debt up 188%
Didn't he raise taxes on top of running the debt up 11 times?
Didn't W try it again?
didn't he run the debt up 101%?
By this account Not Found! (https://ourfuture.org/20141208/bush-vs-obama-on-the-economy-in-3-simple-charte)
W lost over 400,000 private sector jobs when he was in office and there have been almost 13, million private sector jobs created under Obama so far.

[Guest]

You forgot to mention some facts about that slow recovery.
#1 W left Obama a Recession that was almost as deep as a depression is.
#2 We have never got out of a recession that was that deep or a depression in less then 10 Years
Till Obama
#3 we have never got out of a depression or a recession as deep as the last one with out going into a Major war like WW II.

As for " repeating the same exercise, and expecting different results"
Doesn't Trump want to cut taxes on the rich and big Corp. again?
Lets see didn't Reagan do that?
Didn't he run the debt up 188%
Didn't he raise taxes on top of running the debt up 11 times?
Didn't W try it again?
didn't he run the debt up 101%?
By this account Not Found! (https://ourfuture.org/20141208/bush-vs-obama-on-the-economy-in-3-simple-charte)
W lost over 400,000 private sector jobs when he was in office and there have been almost 13, million private sector jobs created under Obama so far.

Trump is simply selling crap about going back to the 80s, which cannot happen. His proposals go back over 30 years when technology was antiquated, and he is selling this stuff to people who crave the "good old days".

Old factory are not coming back. Old systems are not coming back. Not because of Republican or Democrat, but simple updates in Technology.

To sit back while the rest of the world runs past us makes me sad.

[Guest]

Trump is simply selling crap about going back to the 80s, which cannot happen. His proposals go back over 30 years when technology was antiquated, and he is selling this stuff to people who crave the "good old days".

Old factory are not coming back. Old systems are not coming back. Not because of Republican or Democrat, but simple updates in Technology.

To sit back while the rest of the world runs past us makes me sad.

Then why is it OK that is exactly what Obama has done in 8 years of incompetence!!!

Just because someone is a democrat it does not make everything they do, even the wrong and the illegal OK.
Granted that is exactly how Obama runs his team. That is exactly how he is covering for Clinton's felony and criminal activities by giving her a pass.
That is exactly why he needs her to follow him in the WH when he expects her to cover his a$$ and protect his phony legacy....fairy tale is more like it.

If you ain't sad with Obama's letting the rest of the world run past us and over us then there is nothing to b-eye-itch about!!!

[Guest]

Actually Obama thinks he is the dictator. ...and he is a horrific racist dictator.

Everyone should watch the hearings on Sanctuary cities and see the disaster your dictator has caused! Obama caused?
Weren't Sanctuary cities first started in the 1980's?
Who was in office then?
OH yes the great Republican tax cutter Reagan, He also raised taxes 11 times and ran the debt up 188%
So who created this disaster?

[Guest]

Then why is it OK that is exactly what Obama has done in 8 years of incompetence!!!

Just because someone is a democrat it does not make everything they do, even the wrong and the illegal OK.
Granted that is exactly how Obama runs his team. That is exactly how he is covering for Clinton's felony and criminal activities by giving her a pass.
That is exactly why he needs her to follow him in the WH when he expects her to cover his a$$ and protect his phony legacy....fairy tale is more like it.

If you ain't sad with Obama's letting the rest of the world run past us and over us then there is nothing to b-eye-itch about!!!

You totally misunderstand.

I am certainly not even close to an Obama supporter.

I was speaking to Trumps proposals which I feel are antiquated...and you can talk about Obama all you want but you waste time...he is not running.

My point was, we are here complaining about losing jobs to other countries. Our country, before and during Obama, has not addressed the technology gap between our country and most of the rest of the world.

I believe he is spinning his wheels and play ting word games.

If today, all those jobs lost came back to the USA, we do not have anywhere near sufficient trained educated people to work in these plants.

Trump has you believing Mexico is way behind....using his own words..the plants there are beautiful....they employ free trade which Trump resists ands want to close off...that free trade allows sub contractors to freely trade in products used in those facilities.

Most people on here think of Spanish speaking people as landscapers or criminals. They are very smart and have learned the benefit of becoming educated in technology. You don't see them in our country because we do not provide those jobs.

Trump is selling that the plants of the 80s will return. They will not and I say that with certainty.

I am, as I said..not a liberal nor an Obama supporter, but the total insanity of ignoring our shortcomings is galling. The proposal for education in order to get the jobs here makes sense to me.

[Guest]

This just in:

Financial markets say Clinton beat Trump in the debate
BY STEVE GOLDSTEIN | MARKETWATCH - 3 MINUTES AGO

The American people get the last word, but in rapid-fire financial markets, traders Monday night delivered a quick verdict for Hillary Clinton.

U.S. stock futures climbed, and the Mexican peso also gained ground in wake of the clash between the Democratic and Republican presidential candidates.

Yes as is expected all of the Jewish media must support the Liberal or else run the risk of being shunned by The Tribe .
You could have easily taken the opposite argument and been just as correct . What a farce !

[Guest]

Who Won the First Presidential Debate? (http://fortune.com/2016/09/26/presidential-debate-who-won/)

Most of the media I checked have Hillary Clinton as winning the debate last night 9/26/2016.

Of course the " spinners " and " captive media " who owe their reason for living to the Dems had her winning . Hell they had her winning before the event even started .

Yet today the true polls showed that Trump won even Time Magazine .

[Guest]

Yet today the true polls showed that Trump won even Time Magazine .

Yeah, he won alright...as the 'Biggest Loser.' :1rotfl:

Heck, Trump is still stinging and trying to talk his way out of his misogynist comments that Hillary brought to light...but he'll never learn. :oops:

Clinton Seeks to Maximize Debate Advantage as Trump on Defensive - Yahoo Finance (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/clinton-seeks-maximize-debate-advantage-202636626.html;_ylt=A0LEVyTgE.tXglgA_HNXNyoA;_ylu= X3oDMTByMjB0aG5zBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYw NzYw--)

Rather than apologize for his past comments or ignore the issue, Trump on Tuesday defended his treatment of Machado as a business decision, saying in an interview on Fox News that Machado had gained a “massive amount of weight” and that it had been a "real problem."



As for those polls (from same link above)..... :D

Both global financial markets and everyday voters in polls said Clinton carried the day in their early reviews of the highly anticipated showdown. A CNN poll showed that 62 percent of voters who watched said Clinton won the debate compared to 27 percent for Trump.


You Trump supporters hang in there though, maybe you'll get lucky...and he'll decline any more debates. :ho:




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CNM

[Guest]

Yeah, he won alright...as the 'Biggest Loser.' :1rotfl:

Heck, Trump is still stinging and trying to talk his way out of his misogynist comments that Hillary brought to light...but he'll never learn. :oops:

Clinton Seeks to Maximize Debate Advantage as Trump on Defensive - Yahoo Finance (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/clinton-seeks-maximize-debate-advantage-202636626.html;_ylt=A0LEVyTgE.tXglgA_HNXNyoA;_ylu= X3oDMTByMjB0aG5zBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYw NzYw--)

As for those polls (from same link above)..... :D

You Trump supporters hang in there though, maybe you'll get lucky...and he'll decline any more debates. :ho:

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CNM

Hey cnm, lil' missy,........pull my finger.......:a20:..:a20:...:a20:

[Guest]

Hey cnm, lil' missy,........pull my finger.......:a20:..:a20:...:a20:

I see one of our resident 5th graders...has been pretty active this morning. :1rotfl:

While your obsession allowing me to live rent free in your empty mind is actually quite fun, I have to admit it can be a bit spooky too. :ohdear:

All those echos...can be a bit disconcerting. :D



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CNM

[Guest]

Yes as is expected all of the Jewish media must support the Liberal or else run the risk of being shunned by The Tribe .
You could have easily taken the opposite argument and been just as correct . What a farce !
The JDL would be interested in your comment. Be more careful with your hate.

The Jewish Defense League (JDL) is a Jewish far-right religious-political organization in the United States, whose stated goal is to "protect Jews from antisemitism by whatever means necessary".

[Guest]

Who cares who won the debate? It didn't seem to matter to Trump's supporters that braved the bad weather in Florida to turn out in the thousands. And to have thousands turned away because of fire regulations. Hilary has never had to worry about anyone being turned away. In fact, the DNC had to pay people to fill the chairs at the DNC convention. She still can't fill a two car garage. The only over flow she worries about is when she flushes the toilet.

[Guest]

Yeah, he won alright...as the 'Biggest Loser.' :1rotfl:

Heck, Trump is still stinging and trying to talk his way out of his misogynist comments that Hillary brought to light...but he'll never learn. :oops:

Clinton Seeks to Maximize Debate Advantage as Trump on Defensive - Yahoo Finance (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/clinton-seeks-maximize-debate-advantage-202636626.html;_ylt=A0LEVyTgE.tXglgA_HNXNyoA;_ylu= X3oDMTByMjB0aG5zBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYw NzYw--)





As for those polls (from same link above)..... :D




You Trump supporters hang in there though, maybe you'll get lucky...and he'll decline any more debates. :ho:




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CNMYou have quotes in orange and underline links. Why does it need to be in big red letters to be recognized as a quote or a link? Keep up the good work.

[Guest]

You have quotes in orange..
Much easier to read. ;)



and underline links.

You've just exposed your ignorance (or incompetence)...in front of everyone. :1rotfl:

I don't 'underline' the links...it does it automatically. :oops:

Therefore, you've just admitted that you have no desire to provide any links or proof to what you say...as you've obviously never done it.

Thanks for that admission.... 'Clueless Guest.' :D



Why does it need to be in big red letters to be recognized as a quote or a link? Keep up the good work.
Maybe it's time you go see an optometrist, given that the quotes are 'DarkOrange'...NOT red? :ohdear:

And please do keep up the good work...on showing everyone how clueless, ignorant & incompetent you are. :thumbup:




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CNM

[Guest]

Much easier to read. ;)





You've just exposed your ignorance (or incompetence)...in front of everyone. :1rotfl:

I don't 'underline' the links...it does it automatically. :oops:

Therefore, you've just admitted that you have no desire to provide any links or proof to what you say...as you've obviously never done it.

Thanks for that admission.... 'Clueless Guest.' :D




Maybe it's time you go see an optometrist, given that the quotes are 'DarkOrange'...NOT red? :ohdear:

And please do keep up the good work...on showing everyone how clueless, ignorant & incompetent you are. :thumbup:




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CNM
You have quotes in orange and underline links.
We agree they are underlined. Why call me ignorant?

Why does it need to be in big red letters to be recognized as a quote or a link?
In another post I suggested that you put your quotes and links in big red letters so that others can see that you do present quotes and include links. You do not need big read letters because how you set up the post is easy to read.

I was defending you.

Keep up the good work.
I was complimenting you.

You have me confused with someone else.

[Guest]

You have quotes in orange and underline links.
We agree they are underlined. Why call me ignorant?

Why does it need to be in big red letters to be recognized as a quote or a link?
In another post I suggested that you put your quotes and links in big red letters so that others can see that you do present quotes and include links. You do not need big read letters because how you set up the post is easy to read.

I was defending you.

Keep up the good work.
I was complimenting you.

You have me confused with someone else.

Now I feel bad...and proffer my sincere apologies. :o

Since it is often hard to discern 'tone' when writing and especially since most everyone is shown as a 'guest'...I misread and mistook your post as just another sarcastic attack. :oops:

Thank you for setting me straight...and your kind words. :thumbup:



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CNM

[Guest]

You have quotes in orange and underline links.
We agree they are underlined. Why call me ignorant?

Why does it need to be in big red letters to be recognized as a quote or a link?
In another post I suggested that you put your quotes and links in big red letters so that others can see that you do present quotes and include links. You do not need big read letters because how you set up the post is easy to read.

I was defending you.

Keep up the good work.
I was complimenting you.

You have me confused with someone else.

Ready....fire.....aim!!!!!!!!

Happens quite often!

[Guest]

Now I feel bad...and proffer my sincere apologies. :o

Since it is often hard to discern 'tone' when writing and especially since most everyone is shown as a 'guest'...I misread and mistook your post as just another sarcastic attack. :oops:

Thank you for setting me straight...and your kind words. :thumbup:



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CNM
Anyone who has emailed knows that feeling. Don't give it a second thought.

[Guest]

Awww, isn't that quaint? A couple of chummy libtards getting all touchy, feely.

[Guest]

Anyone who has emailed knows that feeling. Don't give it a second thought.

You are too kind. :)

And being so, will obviously lure out the 'deplorables.' ;)


Oh look...it's already happened. :1rotfl:

Awww, isn't that quaint? A couple of chummy libtards getting all touchy, feely.




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CNM

[Guest]

Hey cnm........you know.....:a20: