Where is one to go to check the fact checkers credibilty?

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All of a sudden we have a new wave of terminology .....fact checking.

Here is why fact checking is BS;

There is a bullseye on the side of a barn. There is an arrow in the red dot in the center. Hours are wasted discussing how close the shot is to the center.

Fact check? Is the arrow in the bulleye. Fact check answer? Yes it is!!!

What the fact checker did not present, however , is the shooter would shoot the arrow into the barnside, then go up and paint the bullseye around the arrow.

Short story on the BS of so called fact checking!!

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Don't worry the same people that run Clinton network news will fact check

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"Fact checking" is the new wave of political BS!

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"Fact checking" is the new wave of political BS!

Agree!!!

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"The Readers' Guide to Periodical Literature is a reference guide to recently published articles in periodical magazines and scholarly journals, organized by article subject. The Readers' Guide has been published regularly since 1901 by The H. W. Wilson Company, and is a staple of public and academic reference libraries throughout the United States; a retrospective index of general periodicals published from 1890 to 1982 is also available.
Originally, The Readers' Guide was published on a biweekly basis, with later issues incorporating the previous content in larger copies until the index for the entire year was published." The reference book pointed the investigator to the original source and then if you were lucky the library had the original source.

Since original sources are now online a computer can find the same information in seconds or less. Checking Facts is not new. To evaluate the Fact Checking Site look at the source of information the bottom of the site and decide if it a reliable source.

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"The Readers' Guide to Periodical Literature is a reference guide to recently published articles in periodical magazines and scholarly journals, organized by article subject. The Readers' Guide has been published regularly since 1901 by The H. W. Wilson Company, and is a staple of public and academic reference libraries throughout the United States; a retrospective index of general periodicals published from 1890 to 1982 is also available.
Originally, The Readers' Guide was published on a biweekly basis, with later issues incorporating the previous content in larger copies until the index for the entire year was published." The reference book pointed the investigator to the original source and then if you were lucky the library had the original source.

Since original sources are now online a computer can find the same information in seconds or less. Checking Facts is not new. To evaluate the Fact Checking Site look at the source of information the bottom of the site and decide if it a reliable source.

It matters not.
If it is being used in a political context it is BS extrordinaire!!

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Probably because Donald Trump just got his butt kicked by a girl last night!!!

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7 people read this thread and 6 replied. I never saw that before. Could someone check my facts?

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All of a sudden we have a new wave of terminology .....fact checking.

Here is why fact checking is BS;

There is a bullseye on the side of a barn. There is an arrow in the red dot in the center. Hours are wasted discussing how close the shot is to the center.

Fact check? Is the arrow in the bulleye. Fact check answer? Yes it is!!!

What the fact checker did not present, however , is the shooter would shoot the arrow into the barnside, then go up and paint the bullseye around the arrow.

Short story on the BS of so called fact checking!!

I think every voter, IF THEY SINCERELYNWANT TO KNOW, should do their own fact checking.

Wth the Internet it is simple to do.

Just stay away from extreme left or right websites.

Example...Trump chastised Ford for lost jobs, when in fact they have created jobs in the last few years, and are prospering better than ever. How do I know that.

First when he says that, it just does not sound right based on simply readin newspapers each day.

So...about ten days or so, Ford called Trump out in what he says..

Ford CEO fires back at Donald Trump on jobs to Mexico (http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2016/09/15/ford-ceo-fires-back-donald-trump-jobs-mexico/90432472/)

Then this story also on Ford, where Trump totally misstated facts, and in fact said Ford changed their plans because of him, which of course was not true.

Trump’s Bogus Boast on Ford (http://www.factcheck.org/2015/10/trumps-bogus-boast-on-ford/)

I guess, the point is....read....we listen to these platitudes and accept them because he is our candidate if she is our candidate.

They hope you never ever read and simply accept it as fact.

If in fact you had read, as soon as Trump started with his "schtick" on Ford, you would have know it is a lie.

If you don't "prepare" these people will snow you.

Another example. Trump always talks about jobs leaving, but never mentions most jobs are lost here because we are not keeping up with technology training.

We have a responsibility or we get what we deserve. Candidates want to be the loudest, and could care less if they tell the truth.

[Guest]

I think every voter, IF THEY SINCERELYNWANT TO KNOW, should do their own fact checking.

Wth the Internet it is simple to do.

Just stay away from extreme left or right websites.

Example...Trump chastised Ford for lost jobs, when in fact they have created jobs in the last few years, and are prospering better than ever. How do I know that.

First when he says that, it just does not sound right based on simply readin newspapers each day.

So...about ten days or so, Ford called Trump out in what he says..

Ford CEO fires back at Donald Trump on jobs to Mexico (http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2016/09/15/ford-ceo-fires-back-donald-trump-jobs-mexico/90432472/)

Then this story also on Ford, where Trump totally misstated facts, and in fact said Ford changed their plans because of him, which of course was not true.

Trump’s Bogus Boast on Ford (http://www.factcheck.org/2015/10/trumps-bogus-boast-on-ford/)

I guess, the point is....read....we listen to these platitudes and accept them because he is our candidate if she is our candidate.

They hope you never ever read and simply accept it as fact.

If in fact you had read, as soon as Trump started with his "schtick" on Ford, you would have know it is a lie.

If you don't "prepare" these people will snow you.

Another example. Trump always talks about jobs leaving, but never mentions most jobs are lost here because we are not keeping up with technology training.

We have a responsibility or we get what we deserve. Candidates want to be the loudest, and could care less if they tell the truth.CAR Research Publications | Center for Automotive Research (http://www.cargroup.org/?module=Publications&event=View&pubID=137)

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Mexico builds the cars that were built in S Korea, Germany and Japan. We sell them the parts which may be as high as 40% of the car. If I read it correctly. Somebody should check my facts too.

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Really, fact checking is BS. So you'll criticize Hillary constantly about lying but when Trump lies 70% of the time (probably more than that) you're ok with that and the facts don't matter anymore.

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Really, fact checking is BS. So you'll criticize Hillary constantly about lying but when Trump lies 70% of the time (probably more than that) you're ok with that and the facts don't matter anymore.

70% of the time as measured by what?

The dem political talking points?

The dem media?

The way the wind is blowing at the moment?

MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, and all the other lettered national media that are all biased and suppotive of Clinton. Because they too have something to lose if a non insider, hell raising, non-political, say it like it is whether you like it or not candidate wins.

And what is most disturbing to y'all is that he continues to close the gap and lead the polls.

We are sick and tired of the political establishement....get it?

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Here's a fact I can't find. How many people who live in other countries watched last night or will watch reruns on youtube? Everyone has a vested interest in America. And anyone with Internet access can see our candidates in action.

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70% of the time as measured by what?

The dem political talking points?

The dem media?

The way the wind is blowing at the moment?

MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, and all the other lettered national media that are all biased and suppotive of Clinton. Because they too have something to lose if a non insider, hell raising, non-political, say it like it is whether you like it or not candidate wins.

And what is most disturbing to y'all is that he continues to close the gap and lead the polls.

We are sick and tired of the political establishement....get it?


Unbiased fact checkers over the course of Trumps campaign show 70% of his statements are false. Do you get it???

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And 80% of Hlida`s are just made up .

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CAR Research Publications | Center for Automotive Research (http://www.cargroup.org/?module=Publications&event=View&pubID=137)

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Mexico builds the cars that were built in S Korea, Germany and Japan. We sell them the parts which may be as high as 40% of the car. If I read it correctly. Somebody should check my facts too.

No, you have it correct.

What Trump has done is over simplify for his followers and they buy into every word he says, no matter what.

It is not that but did you notice how FREE TRADE is what is driving all the companies to Mexico......did you hear how Trump wants to close it a bit.

He simply shouts out platitudes that his followers scream and yell about which have no basis in fact at all.

We are losing jobs because we simply cannot supply trained labor. We mock Mexicans here but they know how to build them the new way, and we do not.

This is not 1980 as Trump wants it to be. We will NEVER EVER build cars in this country like we used to do as he wants you to believe. Those assembly lines are a thing of the past and cannot return.

We are lazy....give us the good old days instead of really facing the fact that we need to educate our young folks to compete with the rest of the world.

Shutting down our doors will make it worse. It is not 1980 any longer folks

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The very best site for fact checking is of course The DNC . Go to DNC.Org and you will learn the truth .

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If you read these posts, you can see those who believe Trump will not listen to any facts. They want to go back in time which is never going to happen.

See his lies on Ford Motor...they say nothing....just call Clinton a liar.

See how education is the crux of the matter....they simply say nothing and call Clinton a name.

Do not be lazy.....find the facts yourself.....and then make a decision.

If he is elected, he CANNOT DO ANYTHING HE IS TELLING YOU, and your real brain knows that. Sure it would be nice to go back in time but we cannot and while the rest of the world goes right by us, we simply yell and scream platitudes.

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The very best site for fact checking is of course The DNC . Go to DNC.Org and you will learn the truth .

I would never use the DNC or the RNC or any political affliated site to check truth EVER.

If you do, then you WANT to be led by the nose.

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70% of the time as measured by what?

The dem political talking points?

The dem media?

The way the wind is blowing at the moment?

MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, and all the other lettered national media that are all biased and suppotive of Clinton. Because they too have something to lose if a non insider, hell raising, non-political, say it like it is whether you like it or not candidate wins.

And what is most disturbing to y'all is that he continues to close the gap and lead the polls.

We are sick and tired of the political establishement....get it?

Help me understand how Trump lying is so much different than any other lying ????

Is it the fact he does not care that he lies ?

He is lying to you, and doing it in great volume. He knows you will not check his facts. He knows he is preaching what you want to hear....hell, we all wish we could go back to the 1980's...but we cant do that.

Just explain how his LIES, which are legend and mostly on tape are so much different than others ????

He is conning you. We are all tired of the political establishment but he is taking advantage of our being lazy about fixing it at the grass roots level.

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If you read these posts, you can see those who believe Trump will not listen to any facts. They want to go back in time which is never going to happen.

See his lies on Ford Motor...they say nothing....just call Clinton a liar.

See how education is the crux of the matter....they simply say nothing and call Clinton a name.

Do not be lazy.....find the facts yourself.....and then make a decision.

If he is elected, he CANNOT DO ANYTHING HE IS TELLING YOU, and your real brain knows that. Sure it would be nice to go back in time but we cannot and while the rest of the world goes right by us, we simply yell and scream platitudes.

And you accept the facts? Hardly. You can't even believe the fact that Hillary is a felon and has committed serious crimes against our country. Wow, are you naive!

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In order to properly Fact Check you need to use the same resource as the major electronic and print media use which is the public relations division of The Democrat National Committee --- that is if you really care about the truth .

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If you read these posts, you can see those who believe Trump will not listen to any facts. They want to go back in time which is never going to happen.

See his lies on Ford Motor...they say nothing....just call Clinton a liar.

See how education is the crux of the matter....they simply say nothing and call Clinton a name.

Do not be lazy.....find the facts yourself.....and then make a decision.

If he is elected, he CANNOT DO ANYTHING HE IS TELLING YOU, and your real brain knows that. Sure it would be nice to go back in time but we cannot and while the rest of the world goes right by us, we simply yell and scream platitudes.

If you are telling us all the bad things about Trump, and we all agree Clinton is a felon, criminal, compulsive liar responsible for American deaths and the rise of ISIS......

what are we to do?

With such high moral standards you most certainly would not say vote for Clinton!!!!

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In order to be an informed voter and commentator you must Fact-Check , Fact-check . Fact-check and the only reliable source for the facts is the DNC .