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New York Transplant
09-28-2016, 10:21 AM
So, we all know that selling a (NEW) home here in the Villages is their number one priority. The high bonds and the interest over time is very lucrative. Granted, it's real estate 101 and it's perfectly understandable that this is the Realtors priority! However, we chose to buy a pre-owned home with a low bond. Low enough to pay off. Even tho we're happy with our decision to buy (PO) &notget trapped into paying interest on a bond , we're not too happy with the way the realtors who handled our closing. Pre-owed owners should have the same priority!
Citizens Bank is awesome however the Village realtors we delt with need some customer service training. We were promised a walk-thru which NEVER took place and the inspection company they recommended overlooked a few major issues. One major issue is an electrical one. Gee, could the inspectors be linked to the Villages and or being paid off not to disclose serious problems? I hate to think this and will give them the benefit of the doubt and will consider it an oversight for now, as long as they take care of the bill.

After moving in we found that the owners who the Villages represented as well didn't fix the minor problems that was on the inspection report. We're talking fixing a few minor holes around pipes, etc, etc. We also found a broken screen window that wasn't there before as well as dirty toilet brushes sitting in the bathroom. The brushes were not there before the closing.

Over all, the people here is the reason why we made the move however some realtors that work for the Villages is less to be desired . (We were also promised a sign for our home which we never received).....that is the least of our issues.

I hope whoever decides to buy here takes this in mind and ask a lot of questions and make sure the inspectors the Villages recommend does their job.

RickeyD
09-28-2016, 10:27 AM
So, we all know that selling a (NEW) home here in the Villages is their number one priority. The high bonds and the interest over time is very lucrative. Granted, it's real estate 101 and it's perfectly understandable that this is the Realtors priority! However, we chose to buy a pre-owned home with a low bond. Low enough to pay off. Even tho we're happy with our decision to buy (PO) &notget trapped into paying interest on a bond , we're not too happy with the way the realtors who handled our closing. Pre-owed owners should have the same priority!

Citizens Bank is awesome however the Village realtors we delt with need some customer service training. We were promised a walk-thru which NEVER took place and the inspection company they recommended overlooked a few major issues. One major issue is an electrical one. Gee, could the inspectors be linked to the Villages and or being paid off not to disclose serious problems? I hate to think this and will give them the benefit of the doubt and will consider it an oversight for now, as long as they take care of the bill.



After moving in we found that the owners who the Villages represented as well didn't fix the minor problems that was on the inspection report. We're talking fixing a few minor holes around pipes, etc, etc. We also found a broken screen window that wasn't there before as well as dirty toilet brushes sitting in the bathroom. The brushes were not there before the closing.



Over all, the people here is the reason why we made the move however some realtors that work for the Villages is less to be desired . (We were also promised a sign for our home which we never received).....that is the least of our issues.



I hope whoever decides to buy here takes this in mind and ask a lot of questions and make sure the inspectors the Villages recommend does their job.



Why in the world did you sign the closing papers until you were satisfied with what needed to be done. Or were you absent from the closing ? Either way it seems you didn't do your due diligence. Trust no one, check everything.
And never ever hire anyone the selling agent recommends !

New York Transplant
09-28-2016, 10:35 AM
Sorry, they didn't do their job period! To place blame on the buyer is pathetic as we HIRED them to represent us at closing!! No excuses and it should be public knowledge since there's a lot of money at stake!

RickeyD
09-28-2016, 10:39 AM
Sorry, they didn't do their job period! To place blame on the buyer is pathetic as we HIRED them to represent us at closing!! No excuses and it should be public knowledge since there's a lot of money at stake!



You need to escalate this to upper management, not TOTV. As in any business transaction there are checks and balances of which you're responsible for. It sucks but that is the way it is. Trust no one and check everything.

RickeyD
09-28-2016, 10:56 AM
I think all this pie in the sky stuff about the developer is causing people to loose their edge. When they get screwed it's a big surprise. Not.

graciegirl
09-28-2016, 11:04 AM
I think all this pie in the sky stuff about the developer is causing people to loose their edge. When they get screwed it's a big surprise. Not.

yeah.

RickeyD
09-28-2016, 11:11 AM
So, we all know that selling a (NEW) home here in the Villages is their number one priority. The high bonds and the interest over time is very lucrative. Granted, it's real estate 101 and it's perfectly understandable that this is the Realtors priority! However, we chose to buy a pre-owned home with a low bond. Low enough to pay off. Even tho we're happy with our decision to buy (PO) &notget trapped into paying interest on a bond , we're not too happy with the way the realtors who handled our closing. Pre-owed owners should have the same priority!

Citizens Bank is awesome however the Village realtors we delt with need some customer service training. We were promised a walk-thru which NEVER took place and the inspection company they recommended overlooked a few major issues. One major issue is an electrical one. Gee, could the inspectors be linked to the Villages and or being paid off not to disclose serious problems? I hate to think this and will give them the benefit of the doubt and will consider it an oversight for now, as long as they take care of the bill.



After moving in we found that the owners who the Villages represented as well didn't fix the minor problems that was on the inspection report. We're talking fixing a few minor holes around pipes, etc, etc. We also found a broken screen window that wasn't there before as well as dirty toilet brushes sitting in the bathroom. The brushes were not there before the closing.



Over all, the people here is the reason why we made the move however some realtors that work for the Villages is less to be desired . (We were also promised a sign for our home which we never received).....that is the least of our issues.



I hope whoever decides to buy here takes this in mind and ask a lot of questions and make sure the inspectors the Villages recommend does their job.



You need to write a letter explaining what was promised and send it to upper management. They need to know how you were treated. Get back to us with what their reply, or no reply is.

graciegirl
09-28-2016, 11:52 AM
You were promised an outdoor sign for your house?

That is usually a gift, not part of any discussion.

If someone left bathroom brushes in a used house, how is that the fault of your agent? A used house is kind of as is. I can't tell you how many times we helped friends or family clean a home before they took possession.

I only have heard of a walk through on a new home with the builder.

Oh, and the high bonds and the interest being very lucrative....The Bond is the cost of the infrastructure that would normally be part of the selling price of the home, here it is separated. The bond is the cost of the roads and the golf courses and the rec centers and all that is in place before homes are built. If you don't want to pay the high interest, you can pay it off when you buy. It is a different way of selling homes but not a ripoff, just different.

Fredman
09-28-2016, 12:18 PM
Grace you are wrong about the walk thru. I have bought quite a few preoowned houses and have always had a walk thru and that includes 2 homes in the villages

Jvanostran
09-28-2016, 12:20 PM
I think that there are several points to be covered here. First the buyer calls the sales person a realtor. They are not. Realtors are persons who work for a broker that is a member of the Board of Realtors and who all are under a strict Code of Ethics. Villages sales people work for the developer, do not belong to the Board of Realtor and do not comply with any code of ethics.

Second, Property of The Villages sales people do not at anytime represent buyers. Their feduciary relationship is with the seller. Since that is the case they have no responsibility to you as a buyer to follow through with any of the repairs or walk through or anything.

A Realtor on the other hand does represent buyers. It is our responsibility to follow up on contract offers made by the buyers, to follow up on inspections and make sure that the sellers agent gets the inspection report and to make sure that the repairs are progressing and are being made as per the contract. It is also our responsibility to have a walk through on behalf of a buyer if the buyer cannot attend closing or with the buyer if they are present to make sure before closing repairs are made and if not to have monies held in escrow to get those repairs made.

These are just a few reasons, however very important reasons why you should use a Realtor to list and buy you next home in The Villages, not a sales/marketing person that represent the developer first and foremost, sellers secondly and then buyers on the bottom of the list.

graciegirl
09-28-2016, 12:22 PM
Grace you are wrong about the walk thru. I have bought quite a few preoowned houses and have always had a walk thru and that includes 2 homes in the villages

Thank you for setting me straight.. We have only bought one used house in our marriage of 54 years. And that was 40 years ago.

John_W
09-28-2016, 12:48 PM
I think that there are several points to be covered here. First the buyer calls the sales person a realtor. They are not. Realtors are persons who work for a broker that is a member of the Board of Realtors and who all are under a strict Code of Ethics. Villages sales people work for the developer, do not belong to the Board of Realtor and do not comply with any code of ethics...



The OP using the title Realtor caught my eye right away, and I was just getting ready to hit reply when I saw your post and then deleted mine. Here's a situation that not being a Realtor they were able to side-step.

In 2012 our next door neighbor in his 2011 built courtyard villa, who still lived and worked in Connecticut, came for a visit. They had only been here for a couple of short visits before, they found the master bathroom and bedroom flooded with standing water. They knew immediately the carpeting and drywall was ruined plus other damage.

They contacted TV warranty department and they found a leak in the plumbing under the master bath in the slab. For three weeks they worked to repair the problem. Jack Hammering into the slab, fixing the slab, replacing all the drywall, the bathroom vanity and flooring in both the BR and Bath. It looked like new when they were finished and nothing was charged to the owner.

A week later the owner scared to live there in the future, listed the home with TV Sales Office for $209K, they had paid $162K for the new masonry CYV the year before. They sold the home in one week for $193K and when the new owners were standing in the driveway just moments after arriving for the first time. Another neighbor asked them, what did you think about the flooding problem. They had no clue that there was damage and a major repair.

They got a lawyer and contacted TV Sales Office and the response was, the TV Warranty Department fixed the problem so there was no need to convey any information to the buyers. That owner immediately listed the home with TV Sales Office and it sold in two weeks for $215K. Guess what, that owner was never told either, but they still own the home three years later.

manaboutown
09-28-2016, 12:51 PM
The OP using the title Realtor caught my eye right away, and I was just getting ready to hit reply when I saw your post and then deleted mine. Here's a situation that not being a Realtor they were able to side-step.

In 2012 our next door neighbor in his 2011 built courtyard villa, who still lived and worked in Connecticut, came for a visit. They had only been here for a couple of short visits before, they found the master bathroom and bedroom flooded with standing water. They knew immediately the carpeting and drywall was ruined plus other damage.

They contacted TV warranty department and they found a leak in the plumbing under the master bath in the slab. For three weeks they worked to repair the problem. Jack Hammering into the slab, fixing the slab, replacing all the drywall, the bathroom vanity and flooring in both the BR and Bath. It looked like new when they were finished and nothing was charged to the owner.

A week later the owner scared to live there in the future, listed the home with TV Sales Office for $209K, they had paid $162K for the new masonry CYV the year before. They sold the home in one week for $193K and when the new owners were standing in the driveway just moments after arriving for the first time. Another neighbor asked them, what did you think about the flooding problem. They had no clue that there was damage and a major repair.

They got a lawyer and contacted TV Sales Office and the response was, the TV Warranty Department fixed the problem so there was no need to convey any information to the buyers. That owner immediately listed the home with TV Sales Office and it sold in two weeks for $215K. Guess what, that owner was never told either, but they still own the home three years later.

Caveat Emptor!:boom:

VIN574
09-28-2016, 12:58 PM
I used a Village agent and couldn't have been more pleased.

I bought a resale. It's not the first property I bought in my lifetime. I always do a final walk through to verify everything in the negotiations has been complied with or there's not going to be a closing. It's my money and I'm not lead or intimidated by any salesperson.

The percentage the agent/broker makes is on the sale price of the property. The bond isn't part of the sale price.

Never chose to take the recommendation of the seller's agent for an inspector. Always do your due diligence to find an independent inspector who doesn't have a connection to the sale.

If you really believe the transaction didn't comply with state standards, file a complaint against their licences. IMHO, I don't think you've got a leg to stand on. You went along with the whole process. Put it behind you and enjoy your new home and your life here.

Best

BTW, I also used a MLS agent. He turned out to be a flake as I had to find the houses in my search area. It doesn't mean they're all bad.

VIN574
09-28-2016, 01:02 PM
Caveat Emptor!:boom:

:agree:

Cobh521
09-28-2016, 01:30 PM
I need to disagree with you. I am not sure about what happened with the walk- thru as this should have been done. The sales reps have a list of inspectors that they present to buyers. They should not make the decision. In fact, if they did make the decision, then you must have signed the form to allow them to select an inspector on your behalf. If there was problems with the inspection, then you need to contact the inspector. That is their profession not the sales representatives profession. As for forcing people to buy new homes, I disagree. The sales reps will show you what you want to see. I do believe that the number of new homes and preowned homes is about the same per month. I am sure someone can get you that information.

New York Transplant
09-28-2016, 01:32 PM
Gracie, are you the internet forum advisor for the Villages? Just curious. For your info: The post is to make aware of a problem. And by the private messages we're receiving, it seems we're not the only ones. The sellers also need to know that their best interest is not selling their pre-owned home, it's selling a new one and is being mislead in some cases. We've seen it as buyers, looking at over 100 homes. It will haunt the sellers later on if they disclose false information or hide it as well. We're not people to be taken advantage of nor should anyone else, including the sellers. The two associates that handled our transaction seem to be nice people and we wont disclose their names , especially in a public forum since we're being asked. Thank you for your input however the walk through they do when the buyers are not present at the closing and they represent. The offer for a house sign was just that, an offer and yes it's a gift. I'm an adult and know the difference between a gift and a promise, you're totally missing the point but that's okay. It's a norm nowadays that some lack common sense, especially following through.....It's poor customer service period.

New York Transplant
09-28-2016, 01:35 PM
There's nothing to disagree about, we're posting our experience.

New York Transplant
09-28-2016, 01:42 PM
yes, he seems like a very smart man.

2BNTV
09-28-2016, 01:49 PM
Maybe I am looking at my experience simply but I used a MLS buyers agent that was looking out for me.

I am somewhat certain that some VLS agents are less than perfect and that could possibly lead to some problems.

I am sorry the OP had a bad experience.

BK001
09-28-2016, 02:33 PM
So, we all know that selling a (NEW) home here in the Villages is their number one priority. The high bonds and the interest over time is very lucrative. Granted, it's real estate 101 and it's perfectly understandable that this is the Realtors priority! However, we chose to buy a pre-owned home with a low bond. Low enough to pay off. Even tho we're happy with our decision to buy (PO) &notget trapped into paying interest on a bond , we're not too happy with the way the realtors who handled our closing. Pre-owed owners should have the same priority!
Citizens Bank is awesome however the Village realtors we delt with need some customer service training. We were promised a walk-thru which NEVER took place and the inspection company they recommended overlooked a few major issues. One major issue is an electrical one. Gee, could the inspectors be linked to the Villages and or being paid off not to disclose serious problems? I hate to think this and will give them the benefit of the doubt and will consider it an oversight for now, as long as they take care of the bill.

After moving in we found that the owners who the Villages represented as well didn't fix the minor problems that was on the inspection report. We're talking fixing a few minor holes around pipes, etc, etc. We also found a broken screen window that wasn't there before as well as dirty toilet brushes sitting in the bathroom. The brushes were not there before the closing.

Over all, the people here is the reason why we made the move however some realtors that work for the Villages is less to be desired . (We were also promised a sign for our home which we never received).....that is the least of our issues.

I hope whoever decides to buy here takes this in mind and ask a lot of questions and make sure the inspectors the Villages recommend does their job.


Hey NY Transplant –

We too hail from NY. We bought a preowned (with a high bond that we had no intention of paying off at the closing) through TV in May. We never felt any pressure to buy new. The TV rep, who could not have been more professional, recommended the inspector. We said we wanted the report at least a couple of days before the closing so that we knew what to look for at the final walk-through. We could not believe how thorough (maybe even nit-picking) the inspector was. In fact the sellers mentioned their frustration at the many minor things that were pointed out. They did fix them all but believe me, it was really insignificant in the overall scope of things. As far as you having major issues – electrical, etc., I would tell both the Villages and the inspection company that you are disappointed. I don’t know if there is any recourse for you (probably not) but at least you know that they know. And I’m sure The Villages does not want to use an inspection company that is not doing the job the way it should be done. I think it’s just not worth the negative press for them.

Before the closing WE asked at what time will the final walk-through be scheduled – the day before or the morning of the closing? I guess I don’t understand why you didn’t do the same.

The whole process here was far superior to what we experienced in NY as the sellers.

As far as the house sign yes it is a gift. At the closing the rep gave us a coupon that entitled us to cash it in at a vendor on market night in Spanish Springs who sells house signs. The vendor was pleasant and took our order. It was they who told us that TV is great and buys a sign for all their buyers. BTW – they will also come and install it and you don’t even need to be there. It’s all automatic since they do it all the time. Your rep simply forgot to give you the coupon. You should call them, and with a smile in your voice, tell him or her that you have not received the coupon for the house sign. My guess is that they will be embarrassed that they forgot and will either bring it over or mail it to you right away. I know it’s frustrating but please call – I’m sure it was just an oversight.

As I have found from my many years in business as an HR Diirector, a company may be great but its employees run the full gamut from organized to disorganized, caring to who gives a darn, precise to lax, pleasant to grumpy, etc, etc. We had a rep I would rate as “Outstanding” (on so many levels) and you got one who would probably be rated either Needs Improvement or Unsatisfactory.

So sorry that this was your experience. You’ve been through a lot – with a major move and lifestyle change and just know that soon this will be all behind you as you drink in the beauty of The Villages (or the beauty of the drinks LOL) and begin to wind down and just enjoy your retirement.

Welcome. (Now go make that phone call!)

graciegirl
09-28-2016, 03:34 PM
Gracie, are you the internet forum advisor for the Villages? Just curious. For your info: The post is to make aware of a problem. And by the private messages we're receiving, it seems we're not the only ones. The sellers also need to know that their best interest is not selling their pre-owned home, it's selling a new one and is being mislead in some cases. We've seen it as buyers, looking at over 100 homes. It will haunt the sellers later on if they disclose false information or hide it as well. We're not people to be taken advantage of nor should anyone else, including the sellers. The two associates that handled our transaction seem to be nice people and we wont disclose their names , especially in a public forum since we're being asked. Thank you for your input however the walk through they do when the buyers are not present at the closing and they represent. The offer for a house sign was just that, an offer and yes it's a gift. I'm an adult and know the difference between a gift and a promise, you're totally missing the point but that's okay. It's a norm nowadays that some lack common sense, especially following through.....It's poor customer service period.

No. I am not. There has been a highly unusual barrage of posts in the last few days from relatively new posters against Villages agents.

I am very aware that there is a GREAT deal of bad feeling among many local MLS realtors because The Villagers does not allow them to participate in the huge business here. There has been trouble in the past when The Villages stopped allowing signs in yards and there was a meeting at Laurel Manor about three years ago that included a lot of very upset realtors. In fact if I remember correctly police presence was needed.

One realtor called me a shill for the developer on this forum NOT too long ago and another poster who has sent me some nasty emails piled on.

I don't care who anybody uses
to buy and sell but I do care when people seem to be launching a barrage of negativity about this place that I absolutely think is run very well. They do not need me to defend them but I do anyway, just because that is what I think and believe.

A good friend can tell you that when he asked us to help him find a house we didn't in anyway suggest MLS or Villages agents. We just went along to be another pair of eyes and to help him find his place here. I don't sell homes. I have never sold homes. I don't have anyone in my family who does or any friends who do except The Village agent that we used twice. We have built several homes over time. We are pleased with the processes here.

Barefoot
09-28-2016, 03:41 PM
I used a Village agent and couldn't have been more pleased.
I bought a resale.
The percentage the agent/broker makes in on the sale price of the property. The bond isn't part of the sale price.
Always do your due diligence to find an independent inspector who doesn't have a connection to the sale.
If you really believe the transaction didn't comply with state standards, file a complaint against their licences. IMHO, I don't think you've got a leg to stand on. You went along with the whole process. Put it behind you and enjoy your new home and your life here.
I agree with the recommendation to find an independent inspector.
We used an MLS agent on one pre-owned home and a VLS agent on our next pre-owned home.
Both transactions went very smoothly.
Perhaps we were just lucky; but I tend to believe the majority of MLS and VLS Real Estate agents are very professional.

rexxfan
09-28-2016, 04:51 PM
For what its worth, the agent who handled our purchase of a pre-owned home 18 months ago was great. We had none of these problems. All minor problems were fixed. No major issues were missed. We had a walk through. We even got the sign. Perhaps the agent involved was inexperienced. This is not directed at the OP per se. I find it sad that a sizable percentage of folks nowadays are so distrustful of companies (or even their fellow citizens) that they immediately suspect there is a systematic intent to cheat them. Belief in wild conspiracy theories is a similar problem. Perhaps related to the same underlying dysfunction.
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Bob C

Nucky
09-28-2016, 05:44 PM
I love every realtor that I have ever used. I also am a control freak about every detail of the deal. The couple who bought our home in NJ were guided like puppets throughout the deal by their realtor. They used his lawyer, his inspector, his surveyor, his mortgage company. Each took a little nibble from these people as they didn't do the same job that they would have been forced to do by a seasoned customer. My realtor was great in two previous deals but was sleeping during this one. They all respond to pain. Loss of money is the pain that springs them into action. I'm with the OP totally and would do whatever it takes to rectify the garbage that was pulled on him. A damn shame. I also couldn't be an absentee buyer, not a chance.

Topspinmo
09-28-2016, 06:06 PM
Only thing I have to say, when closing read carefully all those papers you sign at the bottom and compare to what's in and on the property, especially if you see any extras added in or on the property. Unfortunately each state different with there codes and restrictions.

graciegirl
09-28-2016, 06:08 PM
Only thing I have to say, when closing read carefully all those papers you sign at the bottom and compare to what's in and on the property, especially if you see any extras added in or on the property. Unfortunately each state different with there codes and restrictions.

Excellent advice!

And I just remembered I have a Realtor friend...or a retired Realtor Friend. Barefoot!

I forgot, Bare. xoxo

VillagerNut
09-28-2016, 06:37 PM
Sorry, they didn't do their job period! To place blame on the buyer is pathetic as we HIRED them to represent us at closing!! No excuses and it should be public knowledge since there's a lot of money at stake!
You did not hire The Villages Sales Reps to do anything for you as a buyer. The developer always represent the seller at all times which means new and preowned homes. The only thing they have to account for is the money and disclosing any material facts. So every Buyer needs to be aware of who the sales rep represents. It's up to you the buyer to look out for yourself when you're working with the developer. The buyer has no representation when working with the developer. Look at your sales contract where it will disclose that information to you.

Kathrynsews
09-28-2016, 09:21 PM
We too had a great purchase experience with our Villages Rep. We made our offer in April and it was accepted, but we had to return to Michigan before the inspection. We also closed by mail. Our rep was terrific, she attended the inspection, we had a conference call with the inspector and the rep, she made sure the identified items were corrected, (all minor) sent us photos, did the pre closing walk through, again sent us pictures, she noticed a problem with the lawn during the walk through and made sure the seller took care of it before we closed. We could not be happier with the transaction. It was our best real estate purchase experience in 47 years, and we have had many! We are loving our new home and look forward to years of happiness in this wonderful place.

Barefoot
09-28-2016, 09:49 PM
I find it sad that a sizable percentage of folks nowadays are so distrustful of companies (or even their fellow citizens) that they immediately suspect there is a systematic intent to cheat them. Belief in wild conspiracy theories is a similar problem. Perhaps related to the same underlying dysfunction. :agree: People are usually honest, including real estate agents.
There are a few bad apples and you'll find that in any job, and in any city.
But most people strive to be professional and trustworthy.

kstew43
09-29-2016, 08:29 AM
Grace you are wrong about the walk thru. I have bought quite a few preoowned houses and have always had a walk thru and that includes 2 homes in the villages

you are absolutly correct.......the purpose of a walk thru is to make sure the property looks exactly the same or repairs completed as the property did the day you signed the sales contract to buy.

the time frame till closing can be 45-60 days....so the sellers can make changes sometimes and not for the better..

I have seen draw pulls changes, lighting changed....carpets stained, walls bruised, stained...ect..

you must check everything.....before signing the closing paperwork...

If you go into a closing "new or used" without a walk thru that morning or the previous night.....your making a huge mistake....

Thats what a good realtor does for you.....

kstew43
09-29-2016, 09:47 AM
The OP using the title Realtor caught my eye right away, and I was just getting ready to hit reply when I saw your post and then deleted mine. Here's a situation that not being a Realtor they were able to side-step.

In 2012 our next door neighbor in his 2011 built courtyard villa, who still lived and worked in Connecticut, came for a visit. They had only been here for a couple of short visits before, they found the master bathroom and bedroom flooded with standing water. They knew immediately the carpeting and drywall was ruined plus other damage.

They contacted TV warranty department and they found a leak in the plumbing under the master bath in the slab. For three weeks they worked to repair the problem. Jack Hammering into the slab, fixing the slab, replacing all the drywall, the bathroom vanity and flooring in both the BR and Bath. It looked like new when they were finished and nothing was charged to the owner.

A week later the owner scared to live there in the future, listed the home with TV Sales Office for $209K, they had paid $162K for the new masonry CYV the year before. They sold the home in one week for $193K and when the new owners were standing in the driveway just moments after arriving for the first time. Another neighbor asked them, what did you think about the flooding problem. They had no clue that there was damage and a major repair.

They got a lawyer and contacted TV Sales Office and the response was, the TV Warranty Department fixed the problem so there was no need to convey any information to the buyers. That owner immediately listed the home with TV Sales Office and it sold in two weeks for $215K. Guess what, that owner was never told either, but they still own the home three years later.

Thats against Department of Realtors State of Florida Laws. DBPR: Home Page

Disclosure statement.....is a list of all know issues with the home that is filled out buy the sellers when the home is listed.

A disclosure statement, signed by the sellers and accepted buy the buyers....with there signatures.... is required under state laws......salesagents from VLS? who knows?

If the realtor knew this information and didn't disclose this to the new buyers.....they are in big trouble and I do hope they carry really high insurance on themselves...

If the realtor did not know this information.....hence the sellers lied....then the sellers will get theres....Karma sucks...

Its a scary world out there.....look out for #1.....you

Barefoot
09-29-2016, 09:55 AM
I find it sad that a sizable percentage of folks nowadays are so distrustful of companies (or even their fellow citizens) that they immediately suspect there is a systematic intent to cheat them.


Its a scary world out there.....look out for #1.....you

Two different ways of looking at life.

graciegirl
09-29-2016, 11:15 AM
Two different ways of looking at life.


The proof of the pudding is in the eating.

Seems like a very large pool of satisfied customers and a strong business continuing.

Makes all of our investments worth more as time progresses. I think we were all smart to buy here and I know most everyone I know loves the day to day fun.

kstew43
09-29-2016, 12:42 PM
Just to let you in on a little knowledge of the real estate profession....

A Realtor can work for only one Broker or builder.

If as a Realtor, and do not belong to that board, you can not sell. Meaning, if you are not a member of the Sumter, lake or Marion Board of realtors...you CAN NOT sell in the Villages or those counties...

So putting the blame on disgruntled mls Realtors is ridiculous since most of the fellow Realtors I know that have homes in the villages and write on TOTV are members of other boards so why would we care.