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Guest
09-29-2016, 05:49 AM
When you see one of these ads coming directly from the donald, are you entertained, do you look at them as lies (even thou trump is saying these things), is this what represents America, do you still say, that's my man, what is your feelings or do you just overlook these indescretions.

Guest
09-29-2016, 06:06 AM
When you see one of these ads coming directly from the donald, are you entertained, do you look at them as lies (even thou trump is saying these things), is this what represents America, do you still say, that's my man, what is your feelings or do you just overlook these indescretions.

Yes, I do. Because the alternative is Hillary and that is the worst possible scenario I can think of. She is a criminal and I refuse to be an accessory to her felonies. I will not list all of her felonies, but suffice it to say that if I still worked for the State Dept, I would be doing everything I could to get her indicted. I know exactly which laws she broke regarding the handling of classified information, because I worked with those laws every day. Don't take my word for it. Take the lies being perpetrated in congress by the Director of the FBI. He is lying right to congress and being congratulated for it. Either he is being threatened, is in the fix or just plain lazy I don't know. But, he is blatantly wrong and anyone that wishes to look up the federal code will see for themselves. Don't take my word for it. Other people have gone to jail for less than Hillary has done. I have taken away/revoked access to classified information from employees that have done way less than she did.

So, yes I see those ads with Trump in them, taken out of context like any other political ad. Anyone that does not look at the quotes in their entirety, is not doing their candidate proper consideration.

You liberals will are willing to use words uttered as a tool, when we are using Hillary's criminal practices, perpetrations as reason to shun her. You liberals totally disregard her felony behavior and act totally indignant over some words that Trump utters, after you take them out of context. You have no clue as to how mean and nasty Hillary really is behind the scenes. You are naive to put it kindly.

Guest
09-29-2016, 07:53 AM
agree

Guest
09-29-2016, 08:12 AM
Can you politely, without expletives, tell me how you draw your conclusion, that Clinton is a felon, don't you have to be convicted, last time I checked, the FBI did not suggest Clinton be convicted as a FELON, true or not true?
Why do you make that leap.?

Guest
09-29-2016, 08:29 AM
Can you politely, without expletives, tell me how you draw your conclusion, that Clinton is a felon, don't you have to be convicted, last time I checked, the FBI did not suggest Clinton be convicted as a FELON, true or not true?
Why do you make that leap.?

Why don't you go back to pas threads where it has been explained over and over again for the slow minded?

Real easy to summarize. No, you do not have to be convicted to be labeled a felon. If you commit a felony, then you are a felon. To make it real easy for you, so that you can't easily wiggle around this example, the Clintons STOLE thousands of dollars of gov property from the White House. Grand larceny is a felony. By paying restitution to the gov, they admitted their culpability. They are felons, regardless of conviction in court.
Hilary was found to have classified information on her unauthorized, unsecure computer. That is a felony. She confessed to giving her lawyer a thumbdrive with her emails that also contained classified information. That is a felony because he was not cleared for that information. She also employed several staff that were not cleared to work on her server which contained classified information. That is a felony. They have been given amnesty from prosecution. Why do I know these are felonies? Because that was my job in the state Dept, to know. There is absolutely NO requirement for intent, even though implied intent is evident when one illegally uses uncleared, unsecured personal equipment to transmit classified over the Internet. She also transmitted Amb Steven's travel Itinterary (classified and she knew it) over the Internet. She probably got him killed (my opinion).

That is a summary of SOME of her crimes. Why the director is lying to congress and to the people, I do not know. It is pretty scary to know that someone has gotten to our top law enforcement agent.

The Federal codes that Hillary violated are listed on the Internet if you wish to do a simple Google search.

This is just one of the reasons, she will never get my vote.

Guest
09-29-2016, 08:39 AM
Can you politely, without expletives, tell me how you draw your conclusion, that Clinton is a felon, don't you have to be convicted, last time I checked, the FBI did not suggest Clinton be convicted as a FELON, true or not true?
Why do you make that leap.?

Sure if the FBI, AG and Obama didn't put the fix in she would have been indited.

so she is a felon in the Court of public opinion.

if you don't see it...........can't help you

Guest
09-29-2016, 08:48 AM
Sure if the FBI, AG and Obama didn't put the fix in she would have been indited.

so she is a felon in the Court of public opinion.

if you don't see it...........can't help you

Exactly!...:thumbup:

Guest
09-29-2016, 09:37 AM
Can you politely, without expletives, tell me how you draw your conclusion, that Clinton is a felon, don't you have to be convicted, last time I checked, the FBI did not suggest Clinton be convicted as a FELON, true or not true?
Why do you make that leap.?

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Are you practicing one liners for a comedic position?

You just flunked.

Guest
09-29-2016, 09:49 AM
When you see one of these ads coming directly from the donald, are you entertained, do you look at them as lies (even thou trump is saying these things), is this what represents America, do you still say, that's my man, what is your feelings or do you just overlook these indescretions.


When I see these ads I am very afraid and I retreat to my " safe space " and pull the covers over my head . When I think that it is once again safe I emerge .

Guest
09-29-2016, 09:59 AM
Why don't you go back to pas threads where it has been explained over and over again for the slow minded?

Real easy to summarize. No, you do not have to be convicted to be labeled a felon. If you commit a felony, then you are a felon. To make it real easy for you, so that you can't easily wiggle around this example, the Clintons STOLE thousands of dollars of gov property from the White House. Grand larceny is a felony. By paying restitution to the gov, they admitted their culpability. They are felons, regardless of conviction in court.
Hilary was found to have classified information on her unauthorized, unsecure computer. That is a felony. She confessed to giving her lawyer a thumbdrive with her emails that also contained classified information. That is a felony because he was not cleared for that information. She also employed several staff that were not cleared to work on her server which contained classified information. That is a felony. They have been given amnesty from prosecution. Why do I know these are felonies? Because that was my job in the state Dept, to know. There is absolutely NO requirement for intent, even though implied intent is evident when one illegally uses uncleared, unsecured personal equipment to transmit classified over the Internet. She also transmitted Amb Steven's travel Itinterary (classified and she knew it) over the Internet. She probably got him killed (my opinion).

That is a summary of SOME of her crimes. Why the director is lying to congress and to the people, I do not know. It is pretty scary to know that someone has gotten to our top law enforcement agent.

The Federal codes that Hillary violated are listed on the Internet if you wish to do a simple Google search.

This is just one of the reasons, she will never get my vote.
Hope this clears up your concerns.

Republicans Just Cannot Let The Clinton Emails Go | Huffington Post (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/clinton-emails-james-comey_us_57ec1965e4b082aad9b8c728?section=)

Guest
09-29-2016, 10:12 AM
Hope this clears up your concerns.

Republicans Just Cannot Let The Clinton Emails Go | Huffington Post (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/clinton-emails-james-comey_us_57ec1965e4b082aad9b8c728?section=)

The huff and puff democratic post?

:1rotfl::1rotfl:

Guest
09-29-2016, 10:34 AM
Hope this clears up your concerns.

Republicans Just Cannot Let The Clinton Emails Go | Huffington Post (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/clinton-emails-james-comey_us_57ec1965e4b082aad9b8c728?section=)

Why should they let the emails go? It would be nice to know to what extent national security has been jeopardized. How many lives might be at stake. It already seems to be likely that her loose lips caused the death of our American Ambassador. No telling how many other American citizens or foreign operatives might have been put in danger because she was too lazy to obey federal laws. At the very least she should be jailed for life. I would rather she be executed for her treachery.

Guest
09-29-2016, 10:46 AM
Can you politely, without expletives, tell me how you draw your conclusion, that Clinton is a felon, don't you have to be convicted, last time I checked, the FBI did not suggest Clinton be convicted as a FELON, true or not true?
Why do you make that leap.?

Similar to the terminology the Dems coined decades ago when they called people " Unindicted Co- Conspirators " ,
The Clintons are " Unindicted Felons " .

Guest
09-29-2016, 11:15 AM
[Instead of staying on topic you have chosen to beat Hillary to death. So my only conclusion would be, you are a Republican until the end. Not open minded at all. I was a Republican also but can not bring myself to vote Trump. I'm not alone with several Republican leaders doing the same.




QUOTE=Guest;1297488]Why don't you go back to pas threads where it has been explained over and over again for the slow minded?

Real easy to summarize. No, you do not have to be convicted to be labeled a felon. If you commit a felony, then you are a felon. To make it real easy for you, so that you can't easily wiggle around this example, the Clintons STOLE thousands of dollars of gov property from the White House. Grand larceny is a felony. By paying restitution to the gov, they admitted their culpability. They are felons, regardless of conviction in court.
Hilary was found to have classified information on her unauthorized, unsecure computer. That is a felony. She confessed to giving her lawyer a thumbdrive with her emails that also contained classified information. That is a felony because he was not cleared for that information. She also employed several staff that were not cleared to work on her server which contained classified information. That is a felony. They have been given amnesty from prosecution. Why do I know these are felonies? Because that was my job in the state Dept, to know. There is absolutely NO requirement for intent, even though implied intent is evident when one illegally uses uncleared, unsecured personal equipment to transmit classified over the Internet. She also transmitted Amb Steven's travel Itinterary (classified and she knew it) over the Internet. She probably got him killed (my opinion).

That is a summary of SOME of her crimes. Why the director is lying to congress and to the people, I do not know. It is pretty scary to know that someone has gotten to our top law enforcement agent.

The Federal codes that Hillary violated are listed on the Internet if you wish to do a simple Google search.

This is just one of the reasons, she will never get my vote.[/QUOTE]

Guest
09-29-2016, 03:07 PM
Yes, I do. Because the alternative is Hillary and that is the worst possible scenario I can think of. She is a criminal and I refuse to be an accessory to her felonies. I will not list all of her felonies, but suffice it to say that if I still worked for the State Dept, I would be doing everything I could to get her indicted. I know exactly which laws she broke regarding the handling of classified information, because I worked with those laws every day. Don't take my word for it. Take the lies being perpetrated in congress by the Director of the FBI. He is lying right to congress and being congratulated for it. Either he is being threatened, is in the fix or just plain lazy I don't know. But, he is blatantly wrong and anyone that wishes to look up the federal code will see for themselves. Don't take my word for it. Other people have gone to jail for less than Hillary has done. I have taken away/revoked access to classified information from employees that have done way less than she did.

So, yes I see those ads with Trump in them, taken out of context like any other political ad. Anyone that does not look at the quotes in their entirety, is not doing their candidate proper consideration.

You liberals will are willing to use words uttered as a tool, when we are using Hillary's criminal practices, perpetrations as reason to shun her. You liberals totally disregard her felony behavior and act totally indignant over some words that Trump utters, after you take them out of context. You have no clue as to how mean and nasty Hillary really is behind the scenes. You are naive to put it kindly.

And why pray tell have YOU never dragger your bad A&&ED SELF to Congress during the plethora of hearings on the topic and testified, you don't sound like you would have taken the 5th? You seem to have so much knowledge on the subject, actually to me you really sound like someone who just hated their Boss! I hate Trump, SO WHAT! :boom:

Guest
09-29-2016, 03:11 PM
I am a republican and Trumps constant lying really gives me pause for voting for him

Guest
09-29-2016, 03:43 PM
I am a republican and Trumps constant lying really gives me pause for voting for him

Well I can see that you are lying yourself...you big phony!:1rotfl:

Guest
09-29-2016, 03:45 PM
Why don't you go back to pas threads where it has been explained over and over again for the slow minded?

Real easy to summarize. No, you do not have to be convicted to be labeled a felon. If you commit a felony, then you are a felon. To make it real easy for you, so that you can't easily wiggle around this example, the Clintons STOLE thousands of dollars of gov property from the White House. Grand larceny is a felony. By paying restitution to the gov, they admitted their culpability. They are felons, regardless of conviction in court.
Hilary was found to have classified information on her unauthorized, unsecure computer. That is a felony. She confessed to giving her lawyer a thumbdrive with her emails that also contained classified information. That is a felony because he was not cleared for that information. She also employed several staff that were not cleared to work on her server which contained classified information. That is a felony. They have been given amnesty from prosecution. Why do I know these are felonies? Because that was my job in the state Dept, to know. There is absolutely NO requirement for intent, even though implied intent is evident when one illegally uses uncleared, unsecured personal equipment to transmit classified over the Internet. She also transmitted Amb Steven's travel Itinterary (classified and she knew it) over the Internet. She probably got him killed (my opinion).

That is a summary of SOME of her crimes. Why the director is lying to congress and to the people, I do not know. It is pretty scary to know that someone has gotten to our top law enforcement agent.

The Federal codes that Hillary violated are listed on the Internet if you wish to do a simple Google search.

This is just one of the reasons, she will never get my vote.

Nice summation

Guest
09-29-2016, 03:48 PM
I am a republican and Trumps constant lying really gives me pause for voting for him

His lying (or embellishing ) is not the same as her perjury.

So you choice is then to vote for much bigger liar, putting that aside she has no plan to change anything.

Shall we talk about her Supreme Court choices.

Shall we talk about abortion?

Guest
09-29-2016, 04:07 PM
I am a republican and Trumps constant lying really gives me pause for voting for him

AWW so don`t vote for him . OK ? Big deal yours is but 1 vote out of millions .

Oh wait ? Voting for Hillary then your VOTES will be but about 20 out of millions .

Guest
09-29-2016, 04:42 PM
I must admit , I support Trump for now . However , the more I read about him ...........having second thoughts . I wish Rubio had won!!

Guest
09-29-2016, 04:44 PM
I must admit , I support Trump for now . However , the more I read about him ...........having second thoughts . I wish Rubio had won!!

Gary Johnson or Jill Stein might be excellent alternatives for you .

Guest
09-29-2016, 04:59 PM
I must admit , I support Trump for now . However , the more I read about him ...........having second thoughts . I wish Rubio had won!!

I'm sure there are those of us here that can put any reservations to rest

just ask

Guest
09-30-2016, 06:14 AM
Gary Johnson or Jill Stein might be excellent alternatives for you .

:1rotfl:..:1rotfl:..:1rotfl:

Guest
09-30-2016, 06:26 AM
And why pray tell have YOU never dragger your bad A&&ED SELF to Congress during the plethora of hearings on the topic and testified, you don't sound like you would have taken the 5th? You seem to have so much knowledge on the subject, actually to me you really sound like someone who just hated their Boss! I hate Trump, SO WHAT! :boom:

"HATE"???? Dumb @ss liberals like to abuse words they don't understand.

I would be glad to testify in congress. So would many other StateDept employees. NO ONE will be asked or even permitted.

I left when Hillary came in. If I was still there at the time, I would have gone to the IG and hope/hope that someone would listen. I have had clearances of personnel revoked for way less reason than what she did. If anyone handled classified like she did and worked for me, I have no doubt they would still be in prison.

Believe me when I tell you that before I worked for the State Dept, I worked of another organization. And when I was investigating someone's background in Suitland, MD my office discovered that one of the gov employees had a file cabinet of classified material in his home that he was using for reference to write a book. He was turned over to the FBI and was arrested and is still in prison. That was when the FBI was not so corrupt as it is now. Or perhaps he did not have ties with the FBI management.

Hillary is a criminal with corrupt leadership protecting her. Her violations are not minor. They are very serious.

Guest
09-30-2016, 06:37 AM
I am a republican and Trumps constant lying really gives me pause for voting for him

Way to go. Someone who actually can think.

How are we to trust this man if he gets in office? He just lies and lies and lies. Would you marry someone like this???

There is a lot more at stake though and a bad marriage only takes a divorce.

Guest
09-30-2016, 08:14 AM
I do not listen to or watch any political ads. They all take things out of context, no matter which side it is. I do my own research and make my own decisions. I do not take anything anyone else says as truth until I check it out. I have disagreed many times with fact checker and snopes. They go by how something is worded, just like that idiot FBI director was careful how he worded his testimony. I look at the facts, along with my experience and knowledge on a subject.

I know the laws pertaining to the handling of classified material. I know facts, not questions regarding Hillary's mishandling of classified. Hillary's apology would not work in a court of law on this subject. Hillary's intent would not matter regarding the mishandling of classified. She broke several laws, and admitted to having a server and admitted that she transmitted and received classified on it. She said she did not know it was classified. In my opinion, that is a lie because she is the ultimate authority on all StateDept classified. She admits that several technicians had access to her server. They admitted to congress that they did not have a security clearance. Another felony violated by Clinton. A thumbdrive with her emails was given to her lawyer. He was not cleared for classified, therefore that was a felony violated. Her server was not properly secured and safeguarded according to gov requirements. That was a law violated. These are facts, and other than the one opinion that I pointed out, the information that I stated is all evidence of broken laws. There is much, much more that should have been used to indict her but just what I stated on here is more than enough to indict her.

So, if anyone doubts what I just said they can easily confirm it on the internet, even to the extent of viewing her questioning by congress under oath.

She is not qualified to hold a security clearance, therefore she is not qualified to hold the position of president