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Guest
09-29-2016, 10:57 AM
I am writing to you as a LIFE LONG REPUBLICAN. I have voted REPUBLICAN my entire life. I am not asking you to change your vote I am just asking that you get informed about his history. Please Please get a good source of information ( like fact check dot org) read , invest the time to find out as much as you can about Trump and then make your decision. You may come to the conclusion that many Republicans (including myself ) have come to . I will let the facts speak for them selves

Guest
09-29-2016, 11:00 AM
I am writing to you as a LIFE LONG REPUBLICAN. I have voted REPUBLICAN my entire life. I am not asking you to change your vote I am just asking that you get informed about his history. Please Please get a good source of information ( like fact check dot org) read , invest the time to find out as much as you can about Trump and then make your decision. You may come to the conclusion that many Republicans (including myself ) have come to . I will let the facts speak for them selves

So, would you'd rather vote for Clinton and watch the corruption continue?

Guest
09-29-2016, 11:00 AM
I am writing to you as a LIFE LONG REPUBLICAN. I have voted REPUBLICAN my entire life. I am not asking you to change your vote I am just asking that you get informed about his history. Please Please get a good source of information ( like fact check dot org) read , invest the time to find out as much as you can about Trump and then make your decision. You may come to the conclusion that many Republicans (including myself ) have come to . I will let the facts speak for them selves

And did you bother to look into who actually operates and supplies information to " factcheck ".

I think what you are doing is called a " dog-whistle " .

Guest
09-29-2016, 11:05 AM
I do with reservations for sure . I always vote Republican but I cant after reading about this guy. All I ask is you get the facts and that is it

Guest
09-29-2016, 11:08 AM
If fact check dot org is not fair and unbiased what is? , they gave Obama ‘liar of the year” if this is liberal what is the middle or conservative equivalent of it ?

Guest
09-29-2016, 11:10 AM
I do with reservations for sure . I always vote Republican but I cant after reading about this guy. All I ask is you get the facts and that is it

You can not in good conscience want to place out Nation`s future in the hands of the Clintons .

Didn`t you have enough of the constant streams of scandals which dominated the presidency during their last 8 years ?

Why would you think that matters would operate any differently in the second coming of the Clintons ?

They are now just more experienced and even no doubt feel more
comfortable that nothing will happen to them legally .

I would find it more reasonable if you shared that you were going to vote for the Libertarian candidate .

Guest
09-29-2016, 11:13 AM
I do with reservations for sure . I always vote Republican but I cant after reading about this guy. All I ask is you get the facts and that is it

Well call it as you see it. We see it as:

A man who has really accomplished a lot, has directed major projects beyond the understanding of many folks, he is not a POLITICIAN, time for a change.
She, the major leech who has always been at the food lines, feeding from the taxpayers accounts, a former first non lady in Arky and the well known liar and security violator, her achievements? Traveling the world with her kid and friends in a jumbo jet, leeching from the gov treasury, what a bum and a thief. Do you know about the thefts of property from the WH, do you know of the major infringements on Security that should have put her in prison. There are some big things in the plans of this lady and her mentor in the WH now, so look out, WE NEED A CHANGE. TRUMP IS NOT PERFECT, YOU ARE NOT, I AM NOT,,,,,,,,,,,,, BUT WE NEED A MAJOR CHANGE AND SHE IS NOT IT.
bbbbbb :ho:

Guest
09-29-2016, 11:19 AM
Ok , you seem informed and intelligent I will clear my mind of any preconceived notions and start from the top and review the history of both of them again .I am a little on the fence about this , but this history of this guy scares me . I do however agree with many of his positions

Guest
09-29-2016, 11:21 AM
I MAY be making a big mistake in voting for Trump - only time will tell. But, based on her record of failure and corruption, I KNOW I will be making a mistake if I vote for Clinton. I will be voting for Trump - reluctantly.

Guest
09-29-2016, 11:23 AM
I am writing to you as a LIFE LONG REPUBLICAN. I have voted REPUBLICAN my entire life. I am not asking you to change your vote I am just asking that you get informed about his history. Please Please get a good source of information ( like fact check dot org) read , invest the time to find out as much as you can about Trump and then make your decision. You may come to the conclusion that many Republicans (including myself ) have come to . I will let the facts speak for them selves

YOU ARE A TROLL, because only a libtard is dumb enough to believe that any Republican is going to believe such a stupid statement.

You are a criminal if you vote for Hillary. You are an accessory to her crimes. She is a felon and a failure at politics. She can't even pass the D.C. bar exam, which has very low standards. And you expect anyone to vote for her? You are out of your mind. And I hope I am right about you being a TROLL because if not, you are one of the most retarded imbeciles I have ever heard claim to be a Republican.

And what is really the tell on your bait, is that you make the statement that you will let the facts speak for themselves. If that was true and you knew the facts on that stupid BIT*H you would be begging for us to vote for Trump.

Guest
09-29-2016, 11:25 AM
I MAY be making a big mistake in voting for Trump - only time will tell. But, based on her record of failure and corruption, I KNOW I will be making a mistake if I vote for Clinton. I will be voting for Trump - reluctantly.

:agree:

Guest
09-29-2016, 11:27 AM
I've already voted for Trump. Now that you have made it so clear, can I change my vote now? Are you kidding me? I would even vote for the commie Bernie before I would even give a thought to vote for the crooked sea hag. Of course, I voted for Trump. Anyone that has ever been around Hillary for a day, would vote for Charlie Manson over her. She's a scumbag that deserves to be hung for her crimes.

Guest
09-29-2016, 11:29 AM
If fact check dot org is not fair and unbiased what is? , they gave Obama ‘liar of the year” if this is liberal what is the middle or conservative equivalent of it ?What is the URL [AKA website address] for check dot org?
You asked a good question.

Guest
09-29-2016, 11:44 AM
What is the URL [AKA website address] for check dot org?
You asked a good question.

That IS the website. Three W's dot factcheck dot org.

Guest
09-29-2016, 12:02 PM
There is quite a number of republicans who have grave reservations about the man, I am not %100 sure but I have to take a logical view of the facts and they lean towards Clinton right now

Guest
09-29-2016, 12:05 PM
I have attempted to find at unbiased source , where I can take a logical view of the 2 and be knowledgeable of the lies of the 2 to compare , fact check dot org SEEMS ok but if you have a better one let me know

Guest
09-29-2016, 12:07 PM
If fact check dot org is not fair and unbiased what is? , they gave Obama ‘liar of the year” if this is liberal what is the middle or conservative equivalent of it ?
I searched the site using your keywords.

site:factcheck.org liar of the year obama

results: The ‘King of Whoppers': Donald Trump (http://www.factcheck.org/2015/12/the-king-of-whoppers-donald-trump/)

The ‘King of Whoppers': Donald Trump
He dominates our annual review of political falsehoods.
By FactCheck.orgPosted on December 21, 2015 | Updated on December 21, 2015

Where did I go wrong? Show us the factcheck.org liar of the year obama link.

Guest
09-29-2016, 12:14 PM
I am writing to you as a LIFE LONG REPUBLICAN. I have voted REPUBLICAN my entire life. I am not asking you to change your vote I am just asking that you get informed about his history. Please Please get a good source of information ( like fact check dot org) read , invest the time to find out as much as you can about Trump and then make your decision. You may come to the conclusion that many Republicans (including myself ) have come to . I will let the facts speak for them selves

This sounds too much like a set up or definitely bait.

It presumes that the alternative, Clinton, is the better choice. Motive suspect right there.

No matter what Trumps may have said or not said or how he said it .....is much better than that which Clinton has done and did or not did (Beghazzi).

A "good" republican would not make such a theatric appeal spectacle.

Definitely bait.

Pi$$ poor fear tactic by the opposition in their hour(s) of desparation.

Guest
09-29-2016, 12:15 PM
There is quite a number of republicans who have grave reservations about the man, I am not %100 sure but I have to take a logical view of the facts and they lean towards Clinton right now


So go ahead and vote to put The Clinton Crime Family back in power Version2.0 . And then rest your weary head .

You know that you want to do it . You want Cheryl Mills , Valarie Jarret , Huma Abedin running the presidency .
And they will be running things just as George Soros directs them to .
So before you cast your vote you just might wish to do some checking about the folks I mentioned above .
Then of course understand that Loretta Lynch will be running the Justice Department . So if you feel that the DOJ and FBI are operating in an unbiased manner then by all means keep the entire gang in power .
And I must assume that you feel that " Pay for Play " is all just fine . And that selling the Russians control over 20% of our Uranium is a golden idea as well .
Just as is giving up our control of the Internet to some international actors at a time of such world strife .
Finally if you feel that The United Nations should be deciding which international treaties we enter instead of the US Senate .
If you feel that the UN should be regulating much of our day to day lives then by all means vote for the Clintons .

Guest
09-29-2016, 12:21 PM
I have an open mind and want to get a factual logical discussion regarding the 2 candidates. Logical comments are very welcome

Guest
09-29-2016, 12:29 PM
There is quite a number of republicans who have grave reservations about the man, I am not %100 sure but I have to take a logical view of the facts and they lean towards Clinton right now

That is the funniest, lamest, most outrageous line of BS ever heard to date.

Logical (?) conclusion is;

to vote for a feloTo vote for a liar, reckless, careless, unsophisticated technical, lack of security knowledge person (as testified by the director of the FBI).

Logical???? Better watch what is mixed with the meds as something has seriously :censored: up the reasoning.

Guest
09-29-2016, 12:29 PM
facts please .lets talk logically on this

Guest
09-29-2016, 12:31 PM
There are at least two site you can go to, both of which say they accurately check the facts of both national and state candidates. There are probably many more, some of which may also be neutral but some are likely just mouth-pieces for one party or the other.

They are www dot factcheck dot org

and

www dot politifact dot com

Obviously you have to delete the spaces and convert "dot" to a keyboard period. I won't say which, if either is the better site.

Guest
09-29-2016, 12:34 PM
I MAY be making a big mistake in voting for Trump - only time will tell. But, based on her record of failure and corruption, I KNOW I will be making a mistake if I vote for Clinton. I will be voting for Trump - reluctantly.

PLEASE...can you supply some detail relative to corruption that you speak of. It would be appreciated and with some detail.

I continually hear this from Trump and his followers with no facts. I have.seen lots of credible, validate proof about Trump, but everything about Clinton seems to be a lot of talk and insinuation..void of facts to validate CORRUPTION.

Guest
09-29-2016, 12:39 PM
I am WRONG it was politifact who made Obama liar of the year . fact check dot org does have a lot of the Clinton lies as well

Guest
09-29-2016, 12:40 PM
PLEASE...can you supply some detail relative to corruption that you speak of. It would be appreciated and with some detail.

I continually hear this from Trump and his followers with no facts. I have.seen lots of credible, validate proof about Trump, but everything about Clinton seems to be a lot of talk and insinuation..void of facts to validate CORRUPTION.

Are you serious? Do you live under a rock or just on another planet?

Guest
09-29-2016, 12:41 PM
I have an open mind and want to get a factual logical discussion regarding the 2 candidates. Logical comments are very welcome

I am afraid logical discussion on this forum is a lost cause.

We have two flawed candidates, but the folks on here are convinced that Trumps allegations about Clinton are true (based, I think if years of these accusations made by his campaign managers who ran Fix and Breitbart, the radical right wing site)

They refuse to listen to facts presented by people concerning Trump.

Thus, objectivity is not going to happen.

This entire thing is eerie....they seem to want to go back to the 80s and 90s, bring back industries are dead, and now they chant at his rallies to bring up Lewinsky. For what reason, you will need to ask them.

Guest
09-29-2016, 12:42 PM
Are you serious? Do you live under a rock or just on another planet?

So you have no credible FACTS to present or simply the same old charges

Guest
09-29-2016, 12:48 PM
So you have no credible FACTS to present or simply the same old charges

Google: "Clinton Corruption". There are plenty of articles listed to chose from. I don't have the time nor the inclination to educate Liberals that have their heads buried in the sand.

Guest
09-29-2016, 01:00 PM
OK fair enough , so long as you have all the facts that is all I can ask , make sure you spend one hour on each one to look at the history .

thanks for your time

Guest
09-29-2016, 01:08 PM
Google: "Clinton Corruption". There are plenty of articles listed to chose from. I don't have the time nor the inclination to educate Liberals that have their heads buried in the sand.

You know, even though I have read a few books on the Clinton's, I decided to do that. Found something you might like...

From Whitewater to Benghazi: A Primer on Bill and Hillary Clinton Scandals - The Atlantic (http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/09/tracking-the-clinton-controversies-from-whitewater-to-benghazi/396182/)

First, I am no friend, supporter or liked of Bill or Hillary Clinton. Under other circumstances (another GOP candidate) I would vocally and with great vigor oppose her election.

However I would not oppose her on this stuff. I submit that there is no human being who has served in government at these high levels that do not have "things" surrounding them. It could be misjudgment (Benghazi) or any judgement made that did not turn out as we might want. GW Bush can attest to that...no matter what he does, he will be rembered for Iraq and the "depression" and rightfully so. Ronald Reagan had his "Iran contra" scandal. It is simply a fact of life and the longer you serve the more confident you can be that there is something.

If we were electing President for any reason other than to solve problems then we are foolish.

I am struck and offended about the Trump campaign being so non specific about plans, about not giving us anything tangible to hope for. I am offended that he knows he can lie all he wants and his followers just don't care.

I am mostly offended that this campaign was made by Trump to be about this crap. That is not something he can win, as his life and decisions he has made are legend all over the world. His foundation is a farce as compared to the Clinton Foundation. His "service" to our country is non existent.

His only "thing" is these personal attacks, long investigated, and seemingly they will last into the next century.

Again, I do not support Clinton, but he and his followers are being robbed of discussions that he might win....issues. What he is doing will assure him of losing.

Guest
09-29-2016, 01:15 PM
I do with reservations for sure . I always vote Republican but I cant after reading about this guy. All I ask is you get the facts and that is it


Well, he was democrat for majority of his life. He hasn't had the politician honor of being called the hornorable so and so congressmen. IMO they ARE NO HONORABLE politicians. Donald's not politician yet. He have no record being public servent taking under the table lobbist money for favors. Hillary has track record which IMO no matter how bad Donald looks, he's an angel compared to Hillary.

Guest
09-29-2016, 01:36 PM
You know, even though I have read a few books on the Clinton's, I decided to do that. Found something you might like...

From Whitewater to Benghazi: A Primer on Bill and Hillary Clinton Scandals - The Atlantic (http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/09/tracking-the-clinton-controversies-from-whitewater-to-benghazi/396182/)

First, I am no friend, supporter or liked of Bill or Hillary Clinton. Under other circumstances (another GOP candidate) I would vocally and with great vigor oppose her election.

However I would not oppose her on this stuff. I submit that there is no human being who has served in government at these high levels that do not have "things" surrounding them. It could be misjudgment (Benghazi) or any judgement made that did not turn out as we might want. GW Bush can attest to that...no matter what he does, he will be rembered for Iraq and the "depression" and rightfully so. Ronald Reagan had his "Iran contra" scandal. It is simply a fact of life and the longer you serve the more confident you can be that there is something.

If we were electing President for any reason other than to solve problems then we are foolish.

I am struck and offended about the Trump campaign being so non specific about plans, about not giving us anything tangible to hope for. I am offended that he knows he can lie all he wants and his followers just don't care.

I am mostly offended that this campaign was made by Trump to be about this crap. That is not something he can win, as his life and decisions he has made are legend all over the world. His foundation is a farce as compared to the Clinton Foundation. His "service" to our country is non existent.

His only "thing" is these personal attacks, long investigated, and seemingly they will last into the next century.

Again, I do not support Clinton, but he and his followers are being robbed of discussions that he might win....issues. What he is doing will assure him of losing.

I served in the U.S. Navy as a Communications and Communications Material Security Officer and KNOW that any official serving in the capacity as a Senator and Secretary of State would have known or should have known that the her (Hillary's) action, with regard to the transmission of classified material via email, was improper and contrary to procedure and regulations.

Some believe that she is either a LIAR or COMPLETELY INCOMPETENT. Based on her actions, I KNOW that she is both. With a President Hillary Clinton it will only be more of the same - complete incompetence perpetrated by a liar! I will vote for Trump, albeit reluctantly.

Guest
09-29-2016, 01:49 PM
I served in the U.S. Navy as a Communications and Communications Material Security Officer and KNOW that any official serving in the capacity as a Senator and Secretary of State would have known or should have known that the her (Hillary's) action, with regard to the transmission of classified material via email, was improper and contrary to procedure and regulations.

Some believe that she is either a LIAR or COMPLETELY INCOMPETENT. Based on her actions, I KNOW that she is both. With a President Hillary Clinton it will only be more of the same - complete incompetence perpetrated by a liar! I will vote for Trump, albeit reluctantly.

Hey mate...served as CT in Pentagon....4D

But, whether you are correct or not, IF what you say is true, you indict a few agencies and many many VIP people.

Nobody excuses her, certainly not me, but you are simply mouthing a campaign phrase or two.

Wrong, maybe but your implications I just do not buy.

If you think Trump is more honest than she, and can work with congress and other countries (which is the job of the Pres) then fine, but the OP makes a point.

If you truly care as you say, it behooves you to honestly review BOTH candidates.

Guest
09-29-2016, 01:57 PM
Hey mate...served as CT in Pentagon....4D

But, whether you are correct or not, IF what you say is true, you indict a few agencies and many many VIP people.

Nobody excuses her, certainly not me, but you are simply mouthing a campaign phrase or two.

Wrong, maybe but your implications I just do not buy.

If you think Trump is more honest than she, and can work with congress and other countries (which is the job of the Pres) then fine, but the OP makes a point.

If you truly care as you say, it behooves you to honestly review BOTH candidates.

We have already seen several Acts of the never ending Clinton
Play ---- I don`t need to spend another minute vetting Hidabeast .

Guest
09-29-2016, 02:14 PM
Hey mate...served as CT in Pentagon....4D

But, whether you are correct or not, IF what you say is true, you indict a few agencies and many many VIP people.

Nobody excuses her, certainly not me, but you are simply mouthing a campaign phrase or two.

Wrong, maybe but your implications I just do not buy.

If you think Trump is more honest than she, and can work with congress and other countries (which is the job of the Pres) then fine, but the OP makes a point.

If you truly care as you say, it behooves you to honestly review BOTH candidates.

"Campaign phrases", seriously? I don't care whether you "buy" my explanation or not. I simply stated why I will be voting for Trump. Vote for Hillary if you are so inclined, I honestly don't care. Have a nice day.

Guest
09-29-2016, 02:15 PM
We have already seen several Acts of the never ending Clinton
Play ---- I don`t need to spend another minute vetting Hidabeast .

Again, will not defend Clinton, but yet another post offering nothing but the Trump rhetoric. Every time asked, you get the old wiggle. Calling someone something does not make it so....having suspicions does not make it true.

Again, these things are old news and a loser. She can play tapes of Trump lying....thorough evidence laden stories of his participating in illegal trade with Cuba...thourough evidence ladenstories of Trump deals with terrorist folks in Turkey, doing business with Iran, Turkey etc....evidence, although not confirmed he is in debated to one of our countries staunchest enemies in Russia....folks associated and employees of his campaign IN Russia negotiating on deals to circumnavigate NATO.

This is just a start, and maybe it's just me, but those all seem valid reasons to be scared crapless if this guy.

Might not be what we want...certainly not me, but as bad as she is, he is counting in you getting all tied up one reality TV stuff and ignoring the risks.

Making nothing up...can validate it all and easily, and I promise not to do any wiggling out.

Guest
09-29-2016, 02:18 PM
I might add...he can win, but not this way. The National Enquirer platform does nothing for the country, and keeping a lid on his taxes will kill him. Nobody will care if he didn't pay much but we all have a right to know if someone running for President is "in bed" or indebted to those who want something bad for thenUSA

Guest
09-29-2016, 02:19 PM
I am writing to you as a LIFE LONG REPUBLICAN. I have voted REPUBLICAN my entire life. I am not asking you to change your vote I am just asking that you get informed about his history. Please Please get a good source of information ( like fact check dot org) read , invest the time to find out as much as you can about Trump and then make your decision. You may come to the conclusion that many Republicans (including myself ) have come to . I will let the facts speak for them selves

See this . [ the dot ] ? That is how far you have moved the needle on voting for " HER " by Villagers .

Guest
09-30-2016, 04:44 AM
I served in the U.S. Navy as a Communications and Communications Material Security Officer and KNOW that any official serving in the capacity as a Senator and Secretary of State would have known or should have known that the her (Hillary's) action, with regard to the transmission of classified material via email, was improper and contrary to procedure and regulations.

Some believe that she is either a LIAR or COMPLETELY INCOMPETENT. Based on her actions, I KNOW that she is both. With a President Hillary Clinton it will only be more of the same - complete incompetence perpetrated by a liar! I will vote for Trump, albeit reluctantly.

And I am former Naval Intelligence AND retired State Dept Information Management and I also know the laws she broke.

I agree with you totally. I have already mailed my vote in for Trump. Hillary is a felon, waiting to be indicted. The different oaths I have taken preclude me for voting for a criminal/traitor such as Hillary.